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Corbic 09-01-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by S14rebuild (Post 6393433)
Lmao this is 2020....who the fuck is sailing boats across the ocean for an attack?

Yea im sure its the oceans stopn people from attacking usa.

https://warontherocks.com/2018/01/ch...s-perspective/

KA24 is shaking in his boots at the Ruskies and their half dozen broke tanks, collapsed economy and population of a 140million....

But sees no threat in the world's second largest economy that controls our entire supply chain, owns half our debt, has a billion people and literally owns half of our entertainment industry....


Reeeeeeeeeesssssia!!!

deolio 09-01-2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393418)
If you dont like the way your freedom is provided, youre also free to renounce your citizenship and leave

Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure
and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars
and then resort to violence and rioting
and then be called the bad guys by the autocracy and their cohorts
and then be persecuted
and then lead a revolution
and then win
and then be considered heroes

Is that how you would like things to play out? Because it's kinda happened a fuckton of times in history and is guaranteed to happen again. American hegemony is at its end and Trump is the nail in the coffin.

zombiewolf513 09-01-2020 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393450)
Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure
and then resort to violence and rioting
and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars
and then be called the bad guys by everyone else
and then be persecuted
and then lead a revolution
and then win
and then be considered heroes

Is that how you would like things to play out?

"and then be considered heroes"
HAHAHAHA too good. Too fucking good. Hahahaha thanks for that. You guys think life is a LARP or movie or something i swear, bc you have ZERO grasp on the reality of whats 10 miles outside your democratic shitholes. itll be something more like this:

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393450)
Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure

and then resort to violence and rioting

and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars

and then be called the bad guys by literally everyone that isnt you
and then be persecuted
and then lead an insurrection
and then get their shit pushed in by an army of Kyle Rittenhouses with the full blessings of local governments, police and normies theyre killing
and then be considered a stain on American history


deolio 09-01-2020 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393451)
itll be something more like this:

So you're in support autocratic rule then?

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393450)
and then resort to violence and rioting

So you're in support lynch mob rule then?

Youre obviously delusional if you think this country has anything that at all resembles an autocracy.

>in b4 TWUMP SUPPORTEWS ARE NAHTZIS AND TWUMP IS LITEWALLY HITWER

You think trump is some kind of ideological leader, and fail to realize hes a wrench in the system courtesy real Americans who want fake Americans like you exposed. Mission accomplished. Better luck next-next election.

You also fail to realize that if this country was as much of a nazi, racist autocracy as you make it out to be, yall wouldnt be around to complain.

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 12:25 AM

i take that back, if anywhere is autocratic, its democrat shitholes

deolio 09-02-2020 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393453)
So you're in support lynch mob rule then?

Violence ≠ death

Jeez someone's mind sure is on killing :hey:

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393453)
Youre obviously delusional if you think this country has anything that at all resembles an autocracy.

HMMM lets go down the checklist
-Illegally spying on it's citizens? Check
-Intimidating media? Check
-Politicizing civil services? Check
-Stacking the Supreme Court? Check
-Dehumanizing opposition? Check
-Voter surpression? Check

You may want to get your eyes checked, but I guess the optometrist may have a tough time getting a reading with your head buried up your ass.

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393453)
You think trump is some kind of ideological leader, and fail to realize hes a wrench in the system courtesy real Americans who want fake Americans like you exposed. Mission accomplished. Better luck next-next election.

Why would so-called "Real Americans" throw a wrench in their own system? You surely HAVE to see how backwards that is, right?

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393453)
You also fail to realize that if this country was as much of a nazi, racist autocracy as you make it out to be, yall wouldnt be around to complain.

Obviously we aren't quite at that point yet, but with psychopaths like you around, it is fast approaching.

What does "y'all" refer to exactly?

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 12:52 AM

Yeah, violence = peace amirite

Youre not wrong though, my mind is either on my family, my 240, or on training to kill and designing weapons of war. In fact, i dream of killing and being killed all night every night. I literally do. Merica. Probably dont want to try your luck with your little 'revolution'

You dont know what an autocracy is

I already told you why dipshit

Yall refers to you and those that think like you. Yall would be genocided already if we were nazis, now wouldnt you?

deolio 09-02-2020 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393457)
Yeah, violence = peace amirite
Youre not wrong though, my mind is either on my family, my 240, or on training to kill and designing weapons of war. Merica. Probably dont want to try your luck with your little 'revolution'
You dont know what an autocracy is
I already told you why dipshit
Yall refers to you and those that think like you. Yall would be genocided already if we were nazis, now would you?

Do I need to mail you a dictionary?

So you're saying you sabotaged the government in order to find people who disagree with the sabotage? What kind of fucktard came up with that plan? Must have been a genius :bowrofl:

People who have free though and foresight? Sure sounds American to me!

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 01:17 AM

go ahead and define autocracy, and explain how any of those things are being done by an autocrat. And while youre at it, prove theyre an autocrat and not a branch with checks and balances.

More like sabotaging the saboteurs. Its genius while also hilarious to watch. Its working. Youre proof.

Youre always deflecting. Answer the question coward.
If the country was all racist nazis, would everyone else not already be genocided?

deolio 09-02-2020 01:29 AM

Hard pass.

yOu WoN't ReSpOnD bEcAuSe YoU cAn'T

Google is as far from your finger tips as it is from mine.

https://i.imgur.com/8laROPW.jpg



Everyone is too busy pushing their own agenda to look up and realize what they're doing is wrong. That goes for Democrats and Republicans. The two party system is broken. Treating everything as black and white is flawed. As far as I'm concerned, a vote either way is the wrong vote.

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 01:34 AM

whatever pussy

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393460)
yOu WoN't ReSpOnD bEcAuSe YoU cAn'T

Im glad we both recognize why you cant actually respond. At least i have the balls to say what i think instead of feigning victimhood and morality to justify violence like some kind of animal

deolio 09-02-2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393461)
whatever pussy

Im glad we both recognize why you cant actually respond. At least i have the balls to say what i think instead of feigning victimhood and morality to justify violence like some kind of animal

Bitch this ain?t school. Told you before I?m just here to play with your fragile sensibilities and since I can do that without writing a 69 page MLA format paper, I will. Not like you?d learn anything from it even if I did. You?d probably just pull one sentence out of context from it and declare me a traitor anyway. This shit gets boring. Let?s try again tomorrow shall we?

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 01:53 AM

Okay, but youre still pussy. Time for your evening jog.

deolio 09-02-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393463)
Okay, but youre still pussy. Time for your evening jog.

You are what you eat, ya boot.

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 10:11 AM

Boot lol. If you only knew, youd have your foot so far in your mouth youd be shitting your shoe laces pussy boy.

Future240 09-02-2020 10:50 AM

Now now children there is no need for name calling.

deolio 09-02-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393500)
Boot lol. If you only knew, youd have your foot so far in your mouth youd be shitting your shoe laces pussy boy.

Lol 7/10 imagery 0/10 originality since you just reused my analogy.

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Originally Posted by Future240 (Post 6393504)
Now now children there is no need for name calling.

Sorry teach! We?re just playing is all

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 12:25 PM

Oh okay, i was assuming you knew what a boot was.

Future240 09-02-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393506)
Sorry teach! We?re just playing is all

Alright then, back you your assignments of trying to convince each other the opposite party is literally hitler/communist/the devil/epstein
Back to actually election coverage

5/38 predicts biden to win.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/


BBC has Biden up as well
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53657174


Despite those I still think Trump will remain potus.

The left does not vote enough and the base is split between the left left and the moderate left.

Biden's continual gaffs with black people are not helping either.

Meanwhile the repubs are down with the set and gone vote.

Corbic 09-02-2020 12:58 PM

https://youtu.be/PZvCPrsWqzI

Future240 09-02-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic (Post 6393521)


Cringe fest. Shades, the long hair and the gloves? LOL

Does he look like that in all his vids?

KA24DESOneThree 09-02-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513 (Post 6393443)
I get that you want to try and deflect with wars for our 'greatest ally', but you still havent addressed how foreign forces and missiles are kept from hitting the US.

You think it's because we have a military presence on every continent?

You think it's because we bomb the shit out of people who aren't like us?

I'd like to see how you prove that our global hegemony has anything to do with keeping us safe. I'd argue the exact opposite- the end result of decades of foreign meddling was achieved on September 11, 2001. The end result of that attack was... decades of foreign meddling. Oh my god you better not piss off the US or we'll make sure your people get dysentery- if it was good enough for Native Americans in the 1800s, it's good enough for Syrians in the 2000s!

Do I believe we need a military? Yes, even the most staunch libertarian understands that defense is a function of government.

And yeah Corbic, I know China's a massive threat. They're a threat to our housing market, they're a threat to our financial markets, they're a threat to freedom literally throughout the US and despite that, our government has been on its knees and cupping the balls since it was apparent China could make some rich motherfuckers richer.

The CDC enacted a moratorium on evictions. We could be looking at millions of people (some estimates place those millions at more than 10% of the population btw) who will be months behind on their rent by mid-January.

What's going to happen to them? What's Trump's plan? What's Biden's plan? How the fuck do we have 40 million people who don't make enough money to move or to pay their rent? Do conservatives have 80 million bootstraps to lend out?

Corbic 09-02-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree (Post 6393527)

The CDC enacted a moratorium on evictions. We could be looking at millions of people (some estimates place those millions at more than 10% of the population btw) who will be months behind on their rent by mid-January.


Why aren't you asking those Governors that shut down the local businesses and economy?

zombiewolf513 09-02-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Future240 (Post 6393516)
The left does not vote enough and the base is split between the left left and the moderate left.

Right, thats their biggest hurdle. I think were going to see a record low turnout for dem voters this year, too. A lot of traditionally dem voters I talk to in my area are either saying "I cant vote for either of these choices" or "dems are acting nuts im voting for trump"

Corbic 09-02-2020 03:41 PM

Don't worry, they'll make up for it with magic ballot boxes.

deolio 09-02-2020 03:50 PM

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/90834...d7vWUloN0m6Vuo

Some interesting excerpts:

"He uses rhetoric to scare people. This is a known psychological tactic that if you get people to fear, they tend to follow you to the solution of 'How are we going to save ourselves?' And his answer is, 'It's me. If you vote for me, I will save you,' " she says. "Well, for some people, the way that they think that they need to protect themselves, it's more than just a vote for a president. It's 'let me go kill people.' "

“She says that the numbers don't bear out the idea that left-wing violence is as much of a problem as right-wing violence, and arrests during the summer's protests demonstrate that.”

“She's also concerned that people who served as "guardrails" around the president have left the administration. Those "adults in the room," she says, took the heat from the White House in order to allow people like her to keep carrying out their work.”

"It's his style. His style is chaos itself. And when you have chaos at the top of the federal government, that creates chaos throughout every other level of government. That means we cannot perform our security functions well," she says. "The first and primary job of a president, the first and primary job of the federal government, is to protect us."

Corbic 09-02-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio (Post 6393553)
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/90834...d7vWUloN0m6Vuo

Some interesting excerpts:

"He uses rhetoric to scare people. This is a known psychological tactic that if you get people to fear, they tend to follow you to the solution of 'How are we going to save ourselves?' And his answer is, 'It's me. If you vote for me, I will save you,' " she says. "Well, for some people, the way that they think that they need to protect themselves, it's more than just a vote for a president. It's 'let me go kill people.' "

?She says that the numbers don't bear out the idea that left-wing violence is as much of a problem as right-wing violence, and arrests during the summer's protests demonstrate that.?

?She's also concerned that people who served as "guardrails" around the president have left the administration. Those "adults in the room," she says, took the heat from the White House in order to allow people like her to keep carrying out their work.?

"It's his style. His style is chaos itself. And when you have chaos at the top of the federal government, that creates chaos throughout every other level of government. That means we cannot perform our security functions well," she says. "The first and primary job of a president, the first and primary job of the federal government, is to protect us."

Trump wasn't even elected yet and ya'll burning shit down under Obama.

Trump had been president one day and you had Madonna shrieking to burn the Whitehouse down with idiots wearing pussy hats listing to some Islamist...

Trump didn't cause any of this, he's just your favorite excuse and if he's gone, you think all this goes away? Ha!

deolio 09-02-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic (Post 6393557)
If he's gone, you think all this goes away? Ha!

No, but I think it'd prevent a further escalation of violence.

S14rebuild 09-02-2020 06:37 PM

^just like trump going to kenosha, was to spark more outrage and violence, but we see the complete opposite....


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