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FinalDrive 10-16-2006 10:15 AM

S14 -> 350z track edition brakes
 
This is for everyone who has PM'd me about my brakes. No custom brackets are needed!
Step 1:
Get 350z or G35 track edition brembo calipers and rotors. You also need z32 conversion brake lines, brake fluid, etc.

Step 2:
Remove wheel, caliper, rotor, and brake dust shield. Don't disconnect the brake lines yet or you will have to bleed the entire system.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2056/img1725og5.jpg

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Step 3:
Drill out the caliper mounting holes on the spindle. You will need a 9/16" drill bit. This is because the brembo calipers use 14mm mounting bolts vs the stock 12mm. If you have ABS, cover the ABS sensor with something. It is magnetic and the metal shavings will cover it.

Mounting hole half way drilled out to show the difference:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8383/img1728pt2.jpg

Step 4:
The 350z caliper mounting bolts need to be modified. Basically, the threads stop 1" from the bolt head because the 350z spindle is thicker than the s14's. This caused the bolt to run out of thread before the bolt head bottomed out to mount the caliper. I used a thread cutting die and added 1/2" of threads to the bolt to solve this. You can just get new bolts from a hardware store, just measure thread pitch and length. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of this)

Step 5:
Mount new rotor & caliper. Connect the z32 conversion brake lines to the caliper. Disconnect the old brake line from the chassis hard line and immediately connect the z32 conversion line using a flare nut wrench. Don't allow too much brake fluid loss. If your master cylinder gets emptied, you have to bleed all 4 brakes. Remove the two bleeders from the caliper and fill it with fluid (yes there are two on each of these calipers). Reinstall the bleeders and bleed, starting with the insider bleeder first. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of the brake line install either. I didn't want to get brake fluid/crap on my camera. It's all basic stuff, you've done it before.)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3263/img1730xd8.jpg

Step 6:
Repeat for the other side. The end.

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s13silvia123 10-16-2006 10:46 AM

awesome write up and good work man.

sean350z 10-16-2006 10:49 AM

+1 detailed write up with pics is key. too bad the z33 brembos have a huge markup in resale... :(

PITCH 10-16-2006 11:12 AM

Thoes look Tasty...Anyone want to buy my R33 GT-R calipers?:D

drew935 10-16-2006 03:21 PM

will this fit s13's? I have z32s not installed yet and have a mix match of parts so I'm thinking of a z33 setup.

Finaldrive - awesome setup of wheel/brake combo :eek3d:

wootwoot 10-16-2006 04:15 PM

So where the heck can you actually manage to find those calipers for a not ridiculous price? Good show!

slideways2004 10-16-2006 04:23 PM

great write up. badass car

sw20>>s14 10-16-2006 04:28 PM

good right up...what MC are you running?

FinalDrive 10-16-2006 04:42 PM

yes they will fit s13 also
just drill out the spindle and handle the bolt situation

i found the brakes on ebay of all places, got em cheap too

i'm running the oem master cyl right now
the 1 1/16" z32 will go on with the z32 rears later

FinalDrive 10-16-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew935
Finaldrive - awesome setup of wheel/brake combo :eek3d:

thanks
the front wheels are mid disk and barely clear
you can see some paint trading in this fuzzy pic:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7...ture004ly6.jpg

TipStylez 10-16-2006 05:31 PM

Thats just pimp...time to make some z33/g35 kid crash =] Their mom will just buy them another car who cares. haha

Kouki_2.4 10-16-2006 07:03 PM

+1 for awesome instructions!

nrg 10-17-2006 12:42 AM

mark slide squad did this last year to his car.
02+ sentra SE-R Spec V (front brembo caliper) are bolt-ons too.

now someone needs to figure out how to get 300zx ebrake + some new brembo rear calipers to work together. I know STI rear calipers bolt on s13/s14 fine.

vutony 10-17-2006 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrg
now someone needs to figure out how to get 300zx ebrake + some new brembo rear calipers to work together. I know STI rear calipers bolt on s13/s14 fine.

thats wat i was about to say, can the rear be done?

HyperTek 10-17-2006 11:47 AM

thats hawt!!

dam i woulda got flamed for this swap becuase i dont ahve track pics.. =(

ChicagoS14 10-17-2006 12:18 PM

good stuff.... might be my next upgrade when my Z32s arent enough...

upSLIDEdown 10-17-2006 12:37 PM

Any idea what they're like clearance-wise (compared to Z32). I would guess they'd have less clearance, but I don't know. Hoping you do. I'm already running a spacer to clear 30mm Z Brakes, (fronts are an effective 9j +5 now). I can't really run any more spacer, so if they have any less clearance, I won't be able to do them with my current wheels (which I don't wanna give up).

wootwoot 10-17-2006 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoS14
good stuff.... might be my next upgrade when my Z32s arent enough...

They will almost always be enough and if they arent you need to switch pads. You arent going to be doing an endurance races anytime soon right?...

King 240 10-17-2006 01:59 PM

so would the 300zx wheels clear these brakes or are they that much larger then the 30mm Z brakes?

mr_240sx 10-17-2006 02:54 PM

do these have more braking power then the 30mm z32? and keep us posted on your rear setup cause im in the same boat as you right now. btw great write up!

OptionZero 10-17-2006 03:43 PM

i highly doubt these clear w/o 17's

these brembos + z32 rears + z32 m/c should be pretty good brake bias, maybe a little too much front bias?

wootwoot 10-17-2006 05:01 PM

Just use a proportioning valve. Anyone actually needing brakes this size should use one anyway.

Neejay 10-17-2006 05:11 PM

Good write up sir.

FinalDrive 10-17-2006 05:37 PM

Sorry, I can't compare vs 300zx swap braking

As far as clearance, they appear to have less wheel clearance than z32 brakes, but I haven't done a side by side comparison yet. They also barely clear the 18" wheel. Maybe I can find someone to let me test fit a 17" wheel.

LB.Motoring 10-17-2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek
thats hawt!!

dam i woulda got flamed for this swap becuase i dont ahve track pics.. =(

everyother comment does'nt have to be about how you dont track

you bring it apon yourself by posting this all the time. :gives:




thats like jumping into a crowd of girls and like "Hey girls, can I hang with you? Oh wait nvm I have a small penis, and just leave"


on topic, your new brakeset up is super sexy, reminds me of the write up they have on the SPL parts archive of this. Keep it up ^_^

NemeGuero 10-17-2006 07:16 PM

LMAO.. easy Robby..


Damn, those brakes are sex. Look dAMN good behind those wheels.

LB.Motoring 10-17-2006 07:21 PM

haha sorry evan, i just saw like 4 posts personaly saying how he doesnt track or something. we dont need to whine here.

OptionZero 10-17-2006 09:03 PM

IIRC the 350Z base model 17inch wheels clear the brembos on the track model, so some 17's should clear these

nrg 10-17-2006 10:24 PM

more facts into this thread:
350z track rotors: 324mmx30mm
z32 rotors: 280x26/30mm

King 240 10-18-2006 01:14 AM

so looking at a 17'' wheels minimum


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