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Rick-95ZE 09-12-2009 03:55 PM

Zilvia gets a Car Audio section?
 
BEFORE I bother any of the higher ups.. I would like to first gauge interest among fellow Zilvians to add a "Car Audio" section.. I was thinking this possible section might be a good for the following:

1. Place to buy & sell Car Audio
2. Place to show off your custom installs
3. to share How-to info ( I have a few I'd like to share)
4. place to get info and tech support on Car Audio/Video/Alarm, Etc.
5. brand name advice and discussion
6. overall discussion of Car Audio in general (for us new and old school audiophiles)

Just thought it might be good for the forum.. Just a thought for now.

S14_Kouki 09-12-2009 04:20 PM

I just have a cd player and 2 front speakers but one day i would like to jazz up my car audio

Z33dori 09-12-2009 05:05 PM

yea i want to put a sub in my car.....

i hate all the cars w/o even a radio... can't live w/o jamz

GSXRJJordan 09-12-2009 05:09 PM

I thought I was the car audio section. :)

Seriously though, even though there are many decent car audio forums, I think there's enough interest (and random posts) that are S-chassis specific that a car audio section would be helpful.

S14_Kouki 09-12-2009 05:15 PM

I dont understand how ppl drive without something to listen to

druthafoo 09-12-2009 05:43 PM

yes please.......

xpertsnowcarver 09-12-2009 06:20 PM

I just listen to my iPod.. Besides.. the 240 sound system is so basic, and other forums cover this.

This section may be necessary if/when they bring back the 240 in the upcoming years.

GSXRJJordan 09-12-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpertsnowcarver (Post 3023416)
I just listen to my iPod.. Besides.. the 240 sound system is so basic, and other forums cover this.

This section may be necessary if/when they bring back the 240 in the upcoming years.

Not saying I'm the only one that likes real stereophile sound from their 240, but my system is anything but basic. Check the "post your speaker setup" thread if you're interested.

When it comes to how to wire up an amp or head unit, sure there are other forums, but when it comes to people trying to get great sound out of their S-chassis cars, should there be S-chassis forums on something like DIYMA? No, doesn't make sense. Just have a car audio section on S-chassis forums.

xpertsnowcarver 09-12-2009 06:56 PM

^^I agree you are not the only one. But.. Since there are websites (12volt.com and others alike) that are dedicated for this kind of thing, including monster audio systems, not to mention the various car audio magazines, I don't feel its necessary. Yet, anyway. Back when I worked for Circuit Shack, when they were in business, I learned and knew quite a bit of what's involved with the wiring and power consumption, etc. I, too, used to be all into car audio zines as well.

Another reason why I turn the idea down, currently, is just that there aren't very many 240 owners that focus on a monster audio system. Some people can't even maintain their car and buy real parts.. I'm just picturing myself getting annoyed at all the... "what Metra harness did you buy so I can install my $50 kenwood stereo..." threads. You know?

Now, just as I mentioned in my last post, even if this does go through, which it's not a big deal, this section would most likely be necessary anyway since Nissan is planning or already made arrangement for the new 240. So, either way.. this section seems like it will be part of this forum in the future anyway.

Sergio180sx 09-12-2009 07:11 PM

i think a audio section would be dope to see how people do there 240's with systems and how they use there trunk space wisely

NINJASPY 09-12-2009 07:23 PM

electronics/security/wiring section would be nice....

druthafoo 09-12-2009 07:26 PM

^yea itd be better to combine all those things together me thinks

kaking 09-12-2009 09:07 PM

^^last idea sounds good

Suzukini 09-12-2009 09:15 PM

we need this

DreamN 09-13-2009 04:12 AM

Not necessary.

Jakob 09-13-2009 08:00 AM

how about making it an S-chassis electrics section?

people could post their wiring projects, audio setups and ask other people how to properly wire up their turbo timers, piggybacks, ecus and motorswaps.
personally im a very big fan of clean and simple wiring job.

c'mon people fitting fat wheels isnt the only disciplin when it comes to cars :P

druthafoo 09-13-2009 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakob (Post 3024157)
how about making it an S-chassis electrics section?

people could post their wiring projects, audio setups and ask other people how to properly wire up their turbo timers, piggybacks, ecus and motorswaps.
personally im a very big fan of clean and simple wiring job.

c'mon people fitting fat wheels isnt the only disciplin when it comes to cars :P

Yea it is. Dontchakno?

jspeedm 09-13-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 3023449)
When it comes to how to wire up an amp or head unit, sure there are other forums, but when it comes to people trying to get great sound out of their S-chassis cars, should there be S-chassis forums on something like DIYMA? No, doesn't make sense. Just have a car audio section on S-chassis forums.

i agree, but maybe just a sticky, not a whole section.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpertsnowcarver;3023480
Another reason why I turn the idea down, [U
currently[/U], is just that there aren't very many 240 owners that focus on a monster audio system.

Joel, not everyone who puts a system in their car has to have a monster system. some of us simply enjoy good quality sound. a lot of factors can affect that such as sub placement, component types, etc.

I would be interested in other poeples input and setups.

yota man 09-13-2009 01:39 PM

I think it would make a nice addition to the forum even if everyone doesn't use it. I feel that there would however be enough people to make it worth while and it would make it easier for that information to be accessed.

I currently fall under the category of "someone without a radio." However I would like to change that in the future. It would be nice if there was an area of the forum I could go to for inspiration and ideas. I'd rather not did through the thousands of posts in chat, tech, S-chassis tech or where ever else all the electrical questions may have been posted.

One section for all electrical stuff seems to make the most sense to me. I feel that could easily be placed as sub-forum in the already existing tech area.

ILoveJDM 09-13-2009 03:12 PM

i drift with 2 10's in my car. wouldnt want it any other way.

xpertsnowcarver 09-13-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspeedm (Post 3024501)

Joel, not everyone who puts a system in their car has to have a monster system. some of us simply enjoy good quality sound. a lot of factors can affect that such as sub placement, component types, etc.

I would be interested in other poeples input and setups.

Dude... you didn't read both my posts...

The 240 sound system is so BASIC. Its very basic. 12volt.com and other nissan forums have covered basic stereo systems in great detail already. Why do we need to add to it??? A mere search on google on how to install a single din radio will reveal countless results. Even installing alarm systems is basic for our car. All it takes to do anything to our car electrically is a FSM, the product's installation guide, a soldering iron and solder, and a few beers... that's it.

Now... come time to do something like this to a 350z or future S- and Z-, and even R-, chassis... okay..it will most likely be necessary. But not anytime soon.

A decent quality sound system is mere plug and play. There is no soldering or anything involved. You buy your stereo, buy your "kit" which btw, our cars don't even need one. You buy are Metra harness. Buy your Polk Audio 3 ways and 5x7s or whatever. Once you have it all, unplug all your old junk and plug in your new. That's it. We need a section for this??? Nope.. Want a section for monster audio? Meh... Not needed.. A lot of magazines and other forums cover this too.

If there ever is a wiring question anyway, it can be asked in the chat or tech forum. Why not?

GSXRJJordan 09-13-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpertsnowcarver (Post 3024811)
A decent quality sound system is mere plug and play. There is no soldering or anything involved. You buy your stereo, buy your "kit" which btw, our cars don't even need one. You buy are Metra harness. Buy your Polk Audio 3 ways and 5x7s or whatever. Once you have it all, unplug all your old junk and plug in your new. That's it. We need a section for this??? Nope.. Want a section for monster audio? Meh... Not needed.. A lot of magazines and other forums cover this too.

... and then you have people like me, and all the other people I've done systems for - doing nothing the easy way: custom wiring throughout the car, multiple types/layers of sound deadening installed, custom sealed door enclosures for front stage midrange, and tweeter attenuation for windows up/windows down listening... I will be taking my car out for IASCA SQc competition this season, and definitely have the best sounding (and possibly most innovative) S-chassis I've ever heard - I'm interested to see where everyone else's at since I got out of the IASCA comps in 2001-2002.

I get it that you won't be posting a whole lot in the subforum or whatever, or don't think there's enough interest, but coming from the guy that everyone asks for when they post audio questions (or just need advice), THERE IS A TON of information on this site regarding custom electronics and audio, and it's spread all the fuck around.

Engine wiring could be in there, but I'm more interested in a location for:
*wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts for everything (Supraforums has this, for instance)
*chassis modification for better sound (sound deadening, where to do it, how much to use, etc)
*Front stage choice/modifications/etc - by far the most important part of any audio setup - much more involved here than picking out some fucking 4x6's from Best Buy!
*Subwoofer choice and placement/enclosures, with measurements if anyone actually goes and competes - lots of info out there on what type of box to put your sub in, but every chassis is different! S13 coupe/hatch/S14 all have different placements, and I use different designs for each.

Jeez, after this post, if this doesn't go through I'll just put up an audio section on JordanInnovations.com lol.

S14_Kouki 09-13-2009 06:28 PM

^^ great point lets do it

xpertsnowcarver 09-13-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 3024967)
... and then you have people like me, and all the other people I've done systems for - doing nothing the easy way: custom wiring throughout the car, multiple types/layers of sound deadening installed, custom sealed door enclosures for front stage midrange, and tweeter attenuation for windows up/windows down listening... I will be taking my car out for IASCA SQc competition this season, and definitely have the best sounding (and possibly most innovative) S-chassis I've ever heard - I'm interested to see where everyone else's at since I got out of the IASCA comps in 2001-2002.

I get it that you won't be posting a whole lot in the subforum or whatever, or don't think there's enough interest, but coming from the guy that everyone asks for when they post audio questions (or just need advice), THERE IS A TON of information on this site regarding custom electronics and audio, and it's spread all the fuck around.

Engine wiring could be in there, but I'm more interested in a location for:
*wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts for everything (Supraforums has this, for instance)
*chassis modification for better sound (sound deadening, where to do it, how much to use, etc)
*Front stage choice/modifications/etc - by far the most important part of any audio setup - much more involved here than picking out some fucking 4x6's from Best Buy!
*Subwoofer choice and placement/enclosures, with measurements if anyone actually goes and competes - lots of info out there on what type of box to put your sub in, but every chassis is different! S13 coupe/hatch/S14 all have different placements, and I use different designs for each.

Jeez, after this post, if this doesn't go through I'll just put up an audio section on JordanInnovations.com lol.

lol.. Hey man! Just trying to make a good debate! :bow: Like I said, if we do make a section for this. Not a big deal.

jspeedm 09-13-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 3024967)
...
Engine wiring could be in there, but I'm more interested in a location for:
*wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts for everything (Supraforums has this, for instance)
*chassis modification for better sound (sound deadening, where to do it, how much to use, etc)
*Front stage choice/modifications/etc - by far the most important part of any audio setup - much more involved here than picking out some fucking 4x6's from Best Buy!
*Subwoofer choice and placement/enclosures, with measurements if anyone actually goes and competes - lots of info out there on what type of box to put your sub in, but every chassis is different! S13 coupe/hatch/S14 all have different placements, and I use different designs for each.

Jeez, after this post, if this doesn't go through I'll just put up an audio section on JordanInnovations.com lol.

this is what i was trying to say but not as in depth. anyone who has been doing good quality install and design knows that every car has different acoustics with many variables within the same chassis type.

the the entire system can sound different depending on weather you put the sub on the left or right side. back seat or none.

not to mention what kind of sound are you looking for pure clarity or overwhelming bass.

then add in the infinte variable-settings, music type, and the persons hearing frequency range.

i guess this would be a good new section after all, as long is it isn't filled with 20 pages of "the red wire is power, the black is groung."


ps. Joel, nothing wrong with a good debate.

palmdale_mob 09-13-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINJASPY (Post 3023518)
electronics/security/wiring section would be nice....

This........

g6civcx 09-14-2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 3024967)
*wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts for everything (Supraforums has this, for instance)

What is "wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts"?

Is this what we do every day in the Tech forum?

Iron_Zenki 09-14-2009 10:19 AM

yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NINJASPY (Post 3023518)
electronics/security/wiring section would be nice....


I Effin Agree!:bigok:

druthafoo 09-14-2009 02:33 PM

plus..

I've been itching to design some enclosures. It's been a while.

dudermagee 09-14-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 3024967)
... and then you have people like me, and all the other people I've done systems for - doing nothing the easy way: custom wiring throughout the car, multiple types/layers of sound deadening installed, custom sealed door enclosures for front stage midrange, and tweeter attenuation for windows up/windows down listening... I will be taking my car out for IASCA SQc competition this season, and definitely have the best sounding (and possibly most innovative) S-chassis I've ever heard - I'm interested to see where everyone else's at since I got out of the IASCA comps in 2001-2002.

I get it that you won't be posting a whole lot in the subforum or whatever, or don't think there's enough interest, but coming from the guy that everyone asks for when they post audio questions (or just need advice), THERE IS A TON of information on this site regarding custom electronics and audio, and it's spread all the fuck around.

Engine wiring could be in there, but I'm more interested in a location for:
*wire tucks with peer-reviewed pinouts for everything (Supraforums has this, for instance)
*chassis modification for better sound (sound deadening, where to do it, how much to use, etc)
*Front stage choice/modifications/etc - by far the most important part of any audio setup - much more involved here than picking out some fucking 4x6's from Best Buy!
*Subwoofer choice and placement/enclosures, with measurements if anyone actually goes and competes - lots of info out there on what type of box to put your sub in, but every chassis is different! S13 coupe/hatch/S14 all have different placements, and I use different designs for each.

Jeez, after this post, if this doesn't go through I'll just put up an audio section on JordanInnovations.com lol.


This sounds like what is needed


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