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!Zar! 05-16-2009 11:45 AM

"I mean come on"
 
Why is everyone so paranoid about their plates being up online.

I posted one of my cars for sale and I've gotten a few people telling me to, "block out my plates".

For what?

Fear of someone finding where I live and coming to steal it?

Psch.

If the car is on the streets people can see it.

Why should I give a damn about people online seeing it?

To me it seems like overprotective bs that is more hype than it is reality.

How many of you all have had personal experience with having a car stolen just based on them having your plates?

Shit, I enjoy when I see cars for sale on craigs without the plates blocked out.

It allows me to run the smog history on it.

What are `yall thoughts on this?

BustedS13 05-16-2009 11:57 AM

i block out my plates for fear of police putting pieces together and someday using my internet posts as evidence in some sort of street racing court debacle.

i don't know what exactly they'd find but i like the freedom of saying inane bullshit online without worrying about it being used against me in the future

mRclARK1 05-16-2009 12:59 PM

It's REALLY unlikely anything would happen I agree. But it takes how long to do it in photoshop??? About 1.5 seconds...

I've done it anytime I've posted on a public forum in the past even thought I wasn't really worried. *shrug

lflkajfj12123 05-16-2009 01:02 PM

if your car is heavily modified then thiefs can see where to steal your shit from

it could be while its at your house or they can follow you and steal it in a parking lot

kyles1988 05-16-2009 01:04 PM

as a photographer, I do it because clients get pissed when I don't. It's something that probably stemmed from all the myths of car theft. You go to meets and see all the honda/type R guys taking their plates off.

Phlip 05-16-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mRclARK1 (Post 2806880)
It's REALLY unlikely anything would happen I agree. But it takes how long to do it in photoshop??? About 1.5 seconds...

I've done it anytime I've posted on a public forum in the past even thought I wasn't really worried. *shrug

:stupid:

Sure, it is HIGHLY unlikely, but is wholly possible... The ease with which it can be blocked makes it too easy to NOT do on the chance that someone MIGHT try some dumb shit.
Besides, where I live, nothing about the status of the car found through the tags would apply to you once I sell you the car anyway. Stays with the owner, not the car.

allntrlundrgrnd 05-16-2009 01:12 PM

I dont do it anymore. If someone jacks my car it wont be because they found my info on the internet. It will be because they use their eyeballs to see my car obviously has strange things done to it.

!Zar! 05-16-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by s0apgun (Post 2806888)
if your car is heavily modified then thiefs can see where to steal your shit from

it could be while its at your house or they can follow you and steal it in a parking lot

Funny thing is, I've seen a couple cars that were up for sale with the plates blocked out still end up stolen.

So I mean any advertisement of you car online is bad advertisement in a way.

keistyle 05-16-2009 01:48 PM

just keep your car unregistered

ronmcdon 05-16-2009 02:26 PM

I think if you're selling a car, the plates would be necessary to help run a carfaqs record.
(not saying carfaqs in itself is comprehensive enough to check the car, but its a good first step that weeds some options out.)

Otherwise, it just a matter of compromising 'security vs. convenience', as with all things is at the discretion of the owner.
The plate thing does seem kinda paranoid to me.
Guess that's the price of owning some cars like the ITR.
If it has to come to that point, then Id rather sell the car than deal with the hassle.
I've never done it (more out of laziness than deliberation), and most likely never will.

ronmcdon 05-16-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar! (Post 2806941)
Funny thing is, I've seen a couple cars that were up for sale with the plates blocked out still end up stolen.

So I mean any advertisement of you car online is bad advertisement in a way.

That's one way of looking at it.
By selling your car, you are increasing the possibility of it being exposed to thieves.

Think that just goes to show the seller wasn't being cautious in other respects.
Disclosing plates are an additional security measure.
It's not a 'fix all' for everything.

If I were to sell a given car,
I'd garage the thing while it was being sold.
I'd also meet up with the seller couple of miles outside my residence at the very least.

BustedS13 05-16-2009 02:49 PM

every car i have ever sold has sat on the end of the driveway, or in a nearby parking lot, unattended, with a for sale sign in the window. i have never had a car stolen or broken into. except that one time. but that was different.

1ZlowZ 05-16-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon (Post 2807015)
I'd also meet up with the seller couple of miles outside my residence at the very least.

Have you read that story with that guy that got killed selling is evo or sti? I never leave my house if I'm selling something. I may not be old enough to have any kind of weapon but I have sharpened things everywhere, ha ha. :duh:

BustedS13 05-16-2009 03:09 PM

where do you guys live where guns are being pulled in broad daylight? maybe you should move

!Zar! 05-16-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keistyle (Post 2806957)
just keep your car unregistered

/fail

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon (Post 2807015)
That's one way of looking at it.
By selling your car, you are increasing the possibility of it being exposed to thieves.

Think that just goes to show the seller wasn't being cautious in other respects.
Disclosing plates are an additional security measure.
It's not a 'fix all' for everything.

If I were to sell a given car,
I'd garage the thing while it was being sold.
I'd also meet up with the seller couple of miles outside my residence at the very least.

But if I gave you my plates, what would you REALLY be able to do with them?

I mean maybe if you have a hook with someone who works for the gov you could find info out.

I've never heard a case where a car was stolen just because someone ran the plates.

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Originally Posted by 1ZlowZ (Post 2807056)
Have you read that story with that guy that got killed selling is evo or sti? I never leave my house if I'm selling something. I may not be old enough to have any kind of weapon but I have sharpened things everywhere, ha ha. :duh:

You can be jumped at your house. Not to mention there isn't much you can do with a gun in your face, even if you're strapped.

As biggie said, "Never sell no crack where you rest at. I don't car if they want a ounce, tell em bounce".

I NEVER sell anything at/from my house.

Fuck that noise.

BustedS13 05-16-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar! (Post 2807083)
You can be jumped at your house. Not to mention there isn't much you can do with a gun in your face, even if you're strapped.

As biggie said, "Never sell no crack where you rest at. I don't car if they want a ounce, tell em bounce".

I NEVER sell anything at/from my house.

Fuck that noise.

seriously what is this wild west fantasy land you all live in? you guys sure get guns in the face a lot.

1ZlowZ 05-16-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13 (Post 2807087)
seriously what is this wild west fantasy land you all live in? you guys sure get guns in the face a lot.

California...

1on1 05-16-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ZlowZ (Post 2807100)
California...

i agree with you lol

ronmcdon 05-16-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ZlowZ (Post 2807056)
Have you read that story with that guy that got killed selling is evo or sti? I never leave my house if I'm selling something. I may not be old enough to have any kind of weapon but I have sharpened things everywhere, ha ha. :duh:

yeah i recall reading about that too.
also read said thief got caught in the end.
said thief was pretty desperate, sloppy, and not in his right mind.

Seller was more or less screwed either way.
I don't think meeting the buyer at home would have made a difference.
psycho could have shot him anywhere, including during the test drive.

probably only way the EVo/STi owner could have been safe was would to have a friend with him, pointing a loaded gun at said customer.
if you have to go to such extremes, good luck at finding a customer.
I know I'm not going to buy a car with a gun pointed at me.

fortunately, it 'seems' to have been only an isolated incident.
but still, it's terrible either way, & theoretically it could happen to anyone despite the low probability.
kinda like the dude who got stabbed & eaten on the canadian bus or other fluke irrational crimes.
not too sure incidences like that justify change in procedure when selling a car.

if you're that worried, you might as well never leave your house.

ronmcdon 05-16-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar! (Post 2807083)
/fail


But if I gave you my plates, what would you REALLY be able to do with them?

I mean maybe if you have a hook with someone who works for the gov you could find info out.

I've never heard a case where a car was stolen just because someone ran the plates.

.

think you pretty much answered your own concern.
ppl who are worried that their plates becoming theft liability, are those who think that the said theif has a hook-up in the said dmw.

I did mention that I agreed with you.
its anal, and ridiculous for me (and maybe you).
its not an implausible concern for the ultra-paranoid and regular ITR owners.

Another way to look at it is just irrational fear of the unknown.
you don't know the extent of consequences of how ppl can track you based on your plates,
so you just play it safe and obscure it completely.
I'm not saying it's rational, and just trying to consider the pov of a paranoid (if not also delusional) car owner.
"They're out to get me!!!"

brndck 05-16-2009 05:02 PM

lol what about every car that is featured in a magazine and shows plates.


thats hundreds of thousands of copies of that plate being distributed to the public.

i think ppl are being overly paranoid about wanting their plates blocked.

invest in a good alarm and a tracking system and also a "bitch-be-good" stick.

ronmcdon 05-16-2009 05:07 PM

that, and just don't go to shopping malls period.

what's laughable are people who dwell on anal measures like obscuring the lic plate,
but cannot be damned to invest in an alarm and park their car at the mall, knowing full well its more likely to get stolen there than anywhere else.

!Zar! 05-16-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13 (Post 2807087)
seriously what is this wild west fantasy land you all live in? you guys sure get guns in the face a lot.

There have been people stuck up here and robbed during car sales.

So it seems people want to live in this fantasy land you are talking about.

With economy the way it is, people are doing some pretty drastic things to get a hold of cash.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon (Post 2807195)
think you pretty much answered your own concern.

Well, that's what I thought.

But I was wondering if there was anything, "more".

PRADOgy 05-16-2009 07:38 PM

It takes almost no energy to be that much safer. Its all it is, no need to make it anything more

mrflip69 05-16-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!
I've never heard a case where a car was stolen just because someone ran the plates.

Dude, what do you expect? A full out investigation when a car is recovered? "Hey guys, my car got stolen because my plates weren't blocked out online." How do you even prove something like that? You'd have to get a confession or something from the thief.

And if the car isn't recovered... well, how would you figure if the plates made a difference either way?

Just because you haven't heard of a case, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I'm sure a shit ton of interesting things have happened and haven't been posted online :goyou:

Yeah it's paranoid, but whatever helps you sleep at night, right? hahaha

Future240 05-16-2009 11:08 PM

I never got it either. If they stole mine, they would probably be doing be a favor.


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