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BigDaddys240 08-27-2010 06:02 PM

Free flowing exhaust without the "Ricer" sound
 
I am going the N/A route on my '95 S14. I am trying to find a top notch exhaust that will flow well without having the silly braaaaaaap exhaust note. This is going to be a dd and weekend warrior type build. No racing just enjoying the roads through the Ozarks/Ouachita mountains. Any suggestions? Price isn't as much a factor as the performance of the system.

Drifting-pedobear 08-27-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddys240 (Post 3610505)
I am going the N/A route on my '95 S14. I am trying to find a top notch exhaust that will flow well without having the silly braaaaaaap exhaust note. This is going to be a dd and weekend warrior type build. No racing just enjoying the roads through the Ozarks/Ouachita mountains. Any suggestions? Price isn't as much a factor as the performance of the system.

a KA is a KA. and a exhaust for the KA will never sound good. the only way to make an exhaust sound good is to get a motor that is not a KA.

plus how much power do you think your going to make? try like...... none.

fckillerbee 08-27-2010 06:09 PM

I like the sound of my KA for the record. I like how it doesn't sound like a 2.0 and that it makes loud popping sounds when I lift.

to the OP....all KA's sound the same, louder or quieter....i've ran stock/muffler/straightpipe/ no pipe.....and still the straigt pipe sounds the throatiest......no pipe sounds like a race car...haha.

Z33dori 08-27-2010 06:09 PM

my greddy power extreme ii sounded amazing on my Ka.... not raspy at all, real deep and smooth

240Shwag 08-27-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifting-pedobear (Post 3610507)
a KA is a KA. and a exhaust for the KA will never sound good. the only way to make an exhaust sound good is to get a motor that is not a KA.

plus how much power do you think your going to make? try like...... none.

+1.

Either swap it for something turbo or build it for boost.

ThatGuy 08-27-2010 06:12 PM

Custom 3"

Get yourself a decent Magnaflow muffler, and pick whatever tip(s) you want coming out the back. Then just have your local exhaust shop fab it up for you.

I recommend adding a resonator (bullet style muffler) between the cat and the muffler, to help with the tone.

Check the exhaust Thread in Chat for more options.
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Homer_Simpson 08-27-2010 06:16 PM

3" high flow cat + 3" Moroso Spiral Flow after cat + 80mm RSR EXMAG.

Datenshi 08-27-2010 08:12 PM

3 inch exhaust on an NA KA? Are you serious? roflkopter.

Om1kron 08-27-2010 08:28 PM

I'm thinkinging of having an aluminum exhaust made with dual resonators to drown out some of the sound, I have an N1 style catback right now that measured 10db over the california legal limit and I want to have a legit exhaust so I stop getting pulled over by cops with nothing better to do.

Homer_Simpson 08-27-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Datenshi (Post 3610669)
3 inch exhaust on an NA KA? Are you serious? roflkopter.

Why not? Care to enlighten us?

Edit: Someone please post that old dyno sheet that was posted on FreshAlloy where the guy actually gained power from a 3" on an NA KA.

singlecamcammed240 08-27-2010 10:58 PM

moroso spiral flow and then a glass pack, i used three inch, very deep sounding without any rasp to it

BigDaddys240 08-28-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer_Simpson (Post 3610720)
Why not? Care to enlighten us?

Ditto!!!!!

BigDaddys240 08-28-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 240Shwag (Post 3610515)
+1.

Either swap it for something turbo or build it for boost.


No challenge going FI. Besides I don't want/need that much power.

guitaraholic 08-28-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Om1kron (Post 3610687)
I'm thinkinging of having an aluminum exhaust made with dual resonators to drown out some of the sound, I have an N1 style catback right now that measured 10db over the california legal limit and I want to have a legit exhaust so I stop getting pulled over by cops with nothing better to do.

I don't think you can make exhaust out of alluminum. It will wrap because of the heat. I think if you want "light" you have to go titanium

510-SR20DET 08-28-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer_Simpson (Post 3610720)
Why not? Care to enlighten us?

please tell me that you are running fully built NA at least. running stock NA KA with 3 inch is a stupidest thing, you will loose power. Why? Do yourself some reading and you will know why.

But in the end you will thing to yourself "why the fuck didn't i do FI instead of wasting money to do NA?" when you got laughed in the face from a guy just smoked you. Please leave the NA to muscle cars would you.

Datenshi 08-28-2010 08:14 AM

lol If you guys don't know why a 3 inch straight thru exhaust for an NA engine is a bad thing, wow.

You will almost DEFINITELY lose power with that setup. That's some ricer shit lol.

murda-c 08-28-2010 08:33 AM

How do you lose power by going to a bigger catback?

it's so far down the pipe i dont think scavenging will matter.

Large primaries maybe, but seeing as you'll make more power without the catback than with it, i don't think having a bigger one will matter.

Datenshi 08-28-2010 09:27 AM

Why do you think 2.5 inch and 3" exhausts exist? 3 inch is for turbo, as it's more free flowing. With a NA engine, you should have back pressure which is why you use a smaller 2.5 inch exhaust. You CAN put a 3 inch exhaust on your KA, but it will have negative side effects.. if your doing it just for looks.. or sound, sounds pretty rice to me. Get a 2.5 inch exhaust and call it a day.

Homer_Simpson 08-28-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Datenshi (Post 3611231)
Why do you think 2.5 inch and 3" exhausts exist? 3 inch is for turbo, as it's more free flowing. With a NA engine, you should have back pressure which is why you use a smaller 2.5 inch exhaust. You CAN put a 3 inch exhaust on your KA, but it will have negative side effects.. if your doing it just for looks.. or sound, sounds pretty rice to me. Get a 2.5 inch exhaust and call it a day.

Before you endow us with your wisdom. Please do some research. It has been proven that the NA KA can make MORE power with a 3" exhaust. If you're in doubt then do a search.

articdragon192 08-28-2010 11:33 PM

Lol, holy crap. Did we time travel to 2005 when the 2.5" vs 3" debates for the KA existed? Hahaha

Sergio180sx 08-29-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by articdragon192 (Post 3612087)
Lol, holy crap. Did we time travel to 2005 when the 2.5" vs 3" debates for the KA existed? Hahaha


My exact thoughts!!!lol

Om1kron 08-29-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by guitaraholic (Post 3610937)
I don't think you can make exhaust out of alluminum. It will wrap because of the heat. I think if you want "light" you have to go titanium

I better throw away my aluminum intercooler pipes and intercooler then, probably the aluminum radiator in my car too. :duh:

Flashman 08-29-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Datenshi (Post 3611186)
lol If you guys don't know why a 3 inch straight thru exhaust for an NA engine is a bad thing, wow.

You will almost DEFINITELY lose power with that setup. That's some ricer shit lol.

lose power eh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ynoCompare.jpg

smoked240 08-29-2010 02:20 AM

Haha that's classic, shut them fuckers up. Also i'm running 3 inch from after my test pipe and it feels great to me.

199240sxcoupe 08-29-2010 11:59 AM

3 inch cat back straight pipe on a ka is loud.....lol

sliptones629 08-29-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by articdragon192 (Post 3612087)
Lol, holy crap. Did we time travel to 2005 when the 2.5" vs 3" debates for the KA existed? Hahaha

YES! haha


Yes its extra super f'ing loud(3" d/p, test pipe & 3" exhaust). You lose some low end but it pulls nice when you are beating on it. I almost miss it. I needed the FI anyways.

BustedS13 08-29-2010 12:17 PM

in my experience, 3" on a KA is earbleed loud. the gains are so minimal, i don't understand why people argue about it. it doesn't really matter. just decide if you want to go deaf listening to your 155hp engine or not, then decide on your piping diameter.

articdragon192 08-29-2010 12:25 PM

My old S13 with RSR Ex-Mag, DC Sports headers, 248/248 cam set up, and no cat.
Close up of RSR+DC Sports Header video by ArticDragon192 - Photobucket
My Car :: Dyno2 video by ArticDragon192 - Photobucket

And the power it made
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2/CAM_0232.jpg

Yes it was loud, but I had an Apexi ECV to control the volume when I was putting around on the street.

Datenshi 08-29-2010 12:46 PM

I think he was going for free flowing exhaust WITHOUT a "ricer" sound. 2.5 inch exhaust is plenty for his engine and it will reduce noise.. by far. Revving a stock truck motor with as loud of an exhaust as he could get, sweet lol.

If you're going for a turbo later on you might as well buy 3 inch like everyone says.. deal with the noise but know it'll be better for later. But the extra weight, minimal gain, maybe price isn't worth it if you plan to leave it stock. That's my opinion.

Sergio180sx 08-29-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13 (Post 3612484)
in my experience, 3" on a KA is earbleed loud. the gains are so minimal, i don't understand why people argue about it. it doesn't really matter. just decide if you want to go deaf listening to your 155hp engine or not, then decide on your piping diameter.



lol this is so damn true!!! theres a girl who had headers and full exhaust on her s14 and it was annoying loud


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