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Alignment question s13 (drift)
I was wonder what should whats a good starting point for caster. I am gonna play with it and figure out what I like so should I just set it at stock then bump it up from there?? I have hear 6.5 to 7 degree's is optimal for an s13.
any input? the car has adj traction, toe, tension, and ruca's. no bench racers please |
you should make it match stock and then drive it to like pep boys or discount tire, firestone, really anywhere that does alignments
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yea thats exactly what I am not going to do |
really
100+ views and no real answers?? |
caster +6-9 in my opinion with slight toe out about 1/8 inch and 3 degrees camber in the front. in the rear i would keep toe either zeroed or toe in a slight slight bit with 0-2 degrees of camber.
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Toe out in Front??? really?
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toe out looks cool DUH
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Toe in the front a couple of inches so you never lose control. And then toe out the back just to balance out your whole setup. This well GREATLY help with keeping control during powerslides and help initiate drifts. Also positive camber is good camber. Shazam, that's my 2 cents. 2 cents worth millions.
Good luck. :] |
that sounds crazy but ok sure.
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thats sarcasm right? at least i hope it is |
wow....
how much power you putting down? zero toe all around half a degree to a full degree in the rear. as much neg camber in the front as you can get. |
im running stock sr turbo elbow full dp and exhaust im hopefully making 200 whp running 6.5 degrees of caster 2.5 neg camber in front 1 degree toe out thne in the rear 1 degree toe in 1 degree of neg camber on 235 17 45 tires on all 4 corners
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3.5 camper toe 0 caster 8 rear camber -.5 toe 0 traction rod 10mm shorter then oem. this is a alignment i got from a buddy who drives for a living... give it a go. |
Wow, just wow.
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Is that much negative camber really needed for.drifting?
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this thread is pure win lol
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My 2 cents for a good "starting point" is taking it to a professional and possibly save the general public from injury... |
I ran stock street settings for about 3 or 4 years.
i only recently started messing with it a little. But I just have my guy Adrian give me something between drift and street. |
With increased caster you get increased camber under cornering so there is no need to have like 3 degrees of negative camber.
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You don't NEED any amount of camber/caster/toe settings to get a car to drift. If you want a professional setup, I gave you one. If you want to slide the car around, any setting will allow you to do that. Letting the car drift easier, is what the alignment setting is going to do. More camber in the rear= less contact patch= less traction/forward grip More camber in the front=more contact patch under full lock=easier control mid drift Toe is a touchy subject, and should only be used in competition, and I cannot give you a base for tuning that as power/ suspension mods/ ride height/ tire size and compound all effect what toe settings you should have. It's like asking for aero tips, but you aren't going to time your laps. And even then, it's to some drivers preference. I prefer full tire contact at full lock vs dai looks like he's running minimal camber (which means better turn in, less contact at full lock, which allows for less friction coming from the front tires...it'll allow you to get more four wheel drift action/backwards driving/ cool drifting...down side is under full lock, the one with more contact patch gets better grip coming around a turn. There is only so much rear traction being made at any given point. so what was the question again? Oh yes...alignment specs. It's your preference/ what you want done. If you are looking for a base setup, anything will work. When you are starting to compete....that's when you want to start looking into go pro's and filming your suspension movements. |
0 camber front and rear. ( gotta be hella flush right?)
+5 toe front 4 caster -5 toe rear i work at auto zone guys , leave this thread to me. |
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Toe 1/16 toe out Camber -2.5* Caster 6.5* Rear Toe 0 Camber 1.5 Thrust stock Front camber should be set at whatever yields the most contact patch at lock. Rear camber depends on setup as well. I have found that rear camber on a car can actually increase grip when the body rolls. Caster is drivers preference. Rear toe depends on power/tire setup. |
Caster does affect the contact patch but for someone just starting to drift, it more importantly affects how the steering wheel returns imo. I like to chuck the steering wheel and feed it myself so a lower caster setting works better for me. Some people prefer to let go of the wheel and let the car transition itself. Of course there's other factors... camber/toe/tires
My setup is like.. Front Camber -4 1/4 inch toe out 7ish caster Rear 0 toe -2 camber It sucks... I need more grip |
When I was running the KA:
Front: Camber: -5.5* Toe: 0* Caster: OEM Rear: Camber: -2.5* Toe: -2.5* Caster: LOL* V8: -5.5* 0* 9 -1.5* 0* LOL |
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