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roboticnissan 06-28-2012 08:38 PM

htm doable with a Ka motor?
 
I just recently went to horse thief mile with a bone stock dual cam ka. I didnt connect the downhill switchback once. I felt like a few times i came close but i dont have an e brake to hold the drift.

Is it even doable or am i just dreaming. Its a pretty looong gap.

240zach 06-28-2012 09:06 PM

how fast were you going?

roboticnissan 06-28-2012 10:32 PM

Top of second 60mph~

Banana_Cute 06-28-2012 10:47 PM

clutch kick, clutch kick. hahahha. cmon now, if keichii was able to drift in his underpowered 86. Im sure you can. Just keep practicing and you'll get your lines you want.

intake, header exhaust. clutch and light flywheel and a welded diff would prolli give you a lil more boost.

roboticnissan 06-28-2012 11:14 PM

When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

240zach 06-28-2012 11:35 PM

re clutch kick that shit. lol and i would try to hold the drift as much as possible from the first turn then rip the fuck outta the e brake when you transfer and re clutch kick before you lose to much speed. but thats just what id try. lol

Banana_Cute 06-29-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan (Post 4774487)
When did kt slide an 86 on htm?

im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

roboticnissan 06-29-2012 10:29 AM

Youve never been htm have you?

jordaninnovations 06-29-2012 12:36 PM

Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

OutlawLui 06-29-2012 12:39 PM

Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

1on1 06-29-2012 01:31 PM

Willow Springs Raceway in Rosamond, CA

K_style 06-29-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana_Cute (Post 4774890)
im talking about in general, you dumb motherfucker!

Woah woah waoh.. watch out your language mister..

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan (Post 4775092)
Youve never been htm have you?

I bet my 2 quarts of oil !!!


Any ways.. I have seen KAs doing HTM.. It's do-able definitely but can't say if you could connect all the turns.. I know Fckillerbee did it in his Zenki with KA in it... he posted video somewhere here..

Banana_Cute 06-29-2012 01:55 PM

No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

K_style 06-29-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana_Cute (Post 4775560)
No, I havent. Like someone in here once said, Not everyone in a 240 drift.

but I've seen plenty of vids.

You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

Banana_Cute 06-29-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K_style (Post 4775571)
You don't have to drift to go to HTM.. You could spectate or you could have done time attack.

If you have seen videos of people drifting HTM then you would know how nasty uphills and downhills are.. it would take quite skill to drift and connect all coners with underpower vehicles.

yes, and i never said it was impossible. That's why i stated if KC was able to out drift some cars with his under powered 86, with a lil more practice from the OP, it is possible. and like you said as well. That's all my argument was about.

fckillerbee 06-29-2012 02:30 PM

seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.

WIKID S4TEEN 06-29-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilpanamajack (Post 4775326)
Were is this HTM? located i want to try it

Way the fack out here
Driving Directions | Willow Springs International Raceway | Since 1953

karl wasabi 06-29-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordaninnovations (Post 4775325)
Karl Wasabi can do it. BOSS.

- You drift the top turn as shallow as you can and apex the turn at the VERY END.
- Hold the drift all the way to the left edge of the track and hold that as long as you can.
- You'll need to transition as late as you can and get as close to the right edge of the track as you can (dirt dropping can help... SOMETIMES).
- Clutch kicking won't really help since you will already be at the end of the power band.
- Hold that drift as long as you can until the car is about to straighten out.
- At that point just "rip that ebrake" and wait till you get to the bottom. haha.

And like David said, all the drifts are going to be super shallow.

EDIT: YOU MUST HAVE AN EBRAKE.

nieko 06-29-2012 05:17 PM

Exactly what KARL WASABI had stated. I did it a million times with my SOHC KA.

With a KA you MUST have an eBrake. SR and pretty much any other motor you can do it without eBrake.





PS PS: I knew Hammy and Wasabi would be here. I like how this thread grabbed all of our attention, haha.

foreverdark 06-29-2012 06:33 PM

Piece of cake! KA 15's done!

ZX88 06-29-2012 08:13 PM

ask BH...............

EDacIouSX 06-29-2012 10:15 PM

yea... shouldn't be ridiculously hard if you have the right tire/wheel setup. I hear from a lot of people that it's not impossible.

Flybert 06-30-2012 12:19 PM

Watch BH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO4dj...youtu.be&t=42s

He slightly straightens out coming out of the first turn but that is the exact line you have to take to make it. A dirt drop might help you extend but I feel that would be cheating a little.

And listen to Karl. Everything he said was spot on.

1on1 06-30-2012 07:00 PM

There's also a video of BH explaining on how to take HTM in the first 3-15 pages of this thread iirc.

Brian 06-30-2012 10:05 PM

I also have this one. I like it because it goes longer on the track than that other video.

ASB 4 Brian Harte &Mark Slide Squad Drifting w caddyshack! - YouTube

Just don't be afraid of going off track a few times...

Brian 06-30-2012 10:11 PM

This is a good point to be at
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/img_1355.jpg


This is a little too much
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/img_0402.jpg

TheRealSy90 07-01-2012 06:14 AM

Off topic but, is that the 14 that got painted silver and sold to David Titus?

roboticnissan 07-02-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee (Post 4775606)
seen it done with my own eyes...more than possible.

really shallow lines....few clutch kicks....and A LOT of praying. haha.



The shallow lines was what i was thinking. More speed and less angle. I guess it doesnt matter cuz imma be turbo in a few days. I think having a super angle kit screwed me over cuz it made me think i could make it i guess.

cantdrift11 07-04-2012 02:16 PM

Great thread. I've seen guys with pretty much stock ka's connect at htm. I'm having the same dilemma myself hahaha. Having a 4dr 3100lb car and with headers, exhaust and intake barely putting 200 at the wheel. I go super shallow full speed and when I transition I end up usually to late and go hard wide into the dirt. THAT or don't get the balls to connect and straighten out real quick.

fckillerbee 07-05-2012 10:38 AM

well...if you aren't drifting at red line...you are probably going too slow...you litterally take everything that a KA has to link that section.


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