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e1_griego 01-04-2017 07:26 PM

Stage 8 fasteners seemed to have kept my turbo attached for a few track days now.

The big thing is running that bracket from the downpipe to the transmission mount/crossmember and taking weight off the turbo.

The next time I have to take it apart I, too, am just going to weld the turbine housing to the manifold and call it.

battery1882 01-09-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240 (Post 6152236)
I'm following this thread. I need to make a splitter to protect my bumper not so much for performance.

Yeah 3mm would be enough for that!

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Originally Posted by Vatche (Post 6152361)
Hi, I just wanted to let you know im your new biggest fan. I could have warned you about the 4 turbo to manifold nuts being the #1 issue. After years of troubleshooting my only option was to safety wire, but when I had my turbo out last time I didnt even want to try to figure it out I decided I will just weld them together next time they come apart. I cant wait to see you at the next Nissan Challenge event. I saw your car up close at SOW but I had not seen your build thread til now. Woooo. I love 240 time attack builds done well.

Thanks Vatche, I will see you on the 22nd @ACS!

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Originally Posted by e1_griego (Post 6152363)
Stage 8 fasteners seemed to have kept my turbo attached for a few track days now.

The big thing is running that bracket from the downpipe to the transmission mount/crossmember and taking weight off the turbo.

The next time I have to take it apart I, too, am just going to weld the turbine housing to the manifold and call it.

YES!



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Got done with the splitter :

https://image.ibb.co/dmaOHv/20170105_195659.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/j0Rfxv/20170108_182228.jpg

started with 2 stacks of 3mm aluminum composite panels. I used liquid nail to hold them together.
I used aluminum square tube to save weight on the bottom and welded some steel tubing to the bash bar.

https://image.ibb.co/kyDFVF/20170108_163301.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/myPNAF/20170108_163314.jpg

stood on it to make sure it will handle the downforce.
I tore the middle of the panel and it started spreading so I reinforced it it with aluminum plate and carbon plate on top. Maybe I can use it for gopro mount in the future.

battery1882 01-16-2017 07:14 AM

Final prep for 22nd @ California Speedway!

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.fixp...pskylse8zj.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.fixp...psgocxx2ye.jpg

RalliartRsX 01-16-2017 07:24 AM

Looks awesome!

bardabe 01-16-2017 12:30 PM

Nice going man, I'm a wee bit jelly that I can't make it to the warmup event on the 22nd but I'll come by and visit you guys :)

battery1882 01-17-2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX (Post 6155893)
Looks awesome!

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Originally Posted by bardabe (Post 6156017)
Nice going man, I'm a wee bit jelly that I can't make it to the warmup event on the 22nd but I'll come by and visit you guys :)

Thanks guys, I'll see you soon bardabe!

battery1882 02-13-2017 11:12 AM

Finally a track day!!

ACS event was cancelled due to rain..

https://image.ibb.co/cKeB4a/20170211_133658.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/nBFjPa/20170211_140343.jpg


Little hiccup going to Chuckwalla. tire tread decided to chunk off. My fault for not checking the age on it. Guy that sold me the trailer said they had "new" tires. :ugh:

https://image.ibb.co/hmdhAF/20170211_171756.jpg

Spent a night at this mansion. :) it was actually really convenient and comfortable.

https://image.ibb.co/fjnW4a/20170212_111040.jpg

Love to own a GTR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cV_kvUnxmI

I'm hanging on to 4th gear because it popped out on me a few times.

I also forgot to take my camera so was borrowing a friend's gopro. Can't really see the track on this vid but hope you enjoy it.

Overall, car gained lots of grip in the front with the splitter and has a lot more neutral steer than before. Car started getting little hot as I pushed it more. I need to work on that and swap out my tranny :-/

SR20PWRALTY 02-15-2017 11:45 AM

It was awsome see your car in person and watching it perform out there. It inspired me to do more with my car. Hope to see you at the rest of the Nissan Challenge events. Am the guy with LS 240sx by the way.

battery1882 02-16-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6166559)
It was awsome see your car in person and watching it perform out there. It inspired me to do more with my car. Hope to see you at the rest of the Nissan Challenge events. Am the guy with LS 240sx by the way.

It was great meeting you there! I will see you again shortly @ buttonwillow. I hope you had fun with your beast!

SR20PWRALTY 02-16-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by battery1882 (Post 6167000)
It was great meeting you there! I will see you again shortly @ buttonwillow. I hope you had fun with your beast!

Definitely got the bug! I need more grip and braking power. Hey who built your cage? I also noticed in your video you have an aftermarket steering wheel, what size is it. I had a problem with my hands hitting my knees on stock steering wheel when turning.:2f2f:

tacotacotaco 02-16-2017 07:58 PM

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b1&oe=594AADFA

SSJ-S15 02-16-2017 08:09 PM

Car looks awesome :2f2f:

SR20PWRALTY 02-17-2017 02:45 PM

Yes it does!

battery1882 02-20-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tacotacotaco (Post 6167172)
pic

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSJ-S15 (Post 6167176)
Car looks awesome :2f2f:

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Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6167451)
Yes it does!

Thanks guys!

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So I found out why the car started getting hot (highest of the day was 235degree F). I pressurized the cooling system and found puddle of water below the water pump weep hole.

It was a brand new s13 water pump so I'm not sure why it failed..

Good thing I had defi warning! it saved my engine..

https://image.ibb.co/cUEuPa/20170219_125309.jpg

S13 VS. S14/15 pump

https://image.ibb.co/fsR2AF/20170218_131746.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/h3vCAF/20170218_131753.jpg

also changed out the tranny. I couldn't deal with 4th popping.

Interesting note : found the front cover cracked.. I'm guessing it's due to bad trans bearing.

SR20PWRALTY 02-20-2017 02:13 PM

Who did your cage?

battery1882 02-20-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6167062)
Definitely got the bug! I need more grip and braking power. Hey who built your cage? I also noticed in your video you have an aftermarket steering wheel, what size is it. I had a problem with my hands hitting my knees on stock steering wheel when turning.:2f2f:

Sorry forgot to answer your questions,

Cage is pre-made cage by Enjuku. I had Ted (heliarc_hustler instagram) tig weld it for me. He does great job!

My steering wheel is 330mm. (sparco 383). I personally prefer 330mm over 350mm. you can check it out at buttonwillow if you would like!

RalliartRsX 02-20-2017 03:17 PM

I would advise against using a S14 pump on a S13 SR20. The impellers are designed differently and the S14 pump actually flows less when used on a S13 SR20 and does cause cavitation at a much lower RPM

battery1882 02-20-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX (Post 6168348)
I would advise against using a S14 pump on a S13 SR20. The impellers are designed differently and the S14 pump actually flows less when used on a S13 SR20 and does cause cavitation at a much lower RPM

Man.. I wish I would have asked before purchasing/installing it. :-/
I would like to know little more in detail if you could elaborate though. I would think "flows less" mean that the impellers are smaller given same rpm between s13/14 engines, wouldn't that cause less cavitation? unless there's something going on inside the block.. or if the blade design is different.well, let me know! I will change back to s13 water pump if I have to!

I do have bigger pulley so hope that it helps. I will report back after next track day!

SR20PWRALTY 03-06-2017 02:21 PM

You were missed this week at button willow. I know you were planning to show up. Hope you make it to April first event.

RalliartRsX 03-06-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by battery1882 (Post 6168352)
Man.. I wish I would have asked before purchasing/installing it. :-/
I would like to know little more in detail if you could elaborate though. I would think "flows less" mean that the impellers are smaller given same rpm between s13/14 engines, wouldn't that cause less cavitation? unless there's something going on inside the block.. or if the blade design is different.well, let me know! I will change back to s13 water pump if I have to!

I do have bigger pulley so hope that it helps. I will report back after next track day!

Short of it is; S14 impellers are shorter when used on the S13 head due to the different casting between the heads. What this translate to is the impellers themselves simply do not reach far enough into the waterpump housing to have enough surface area to "pump" the water. Its like sticking half your hand out the window vs sticking all your hand out the window. Only half your hand actually gets acted on by the wind in the first scenario.

Look at them side-side. The details are not immediately apparent.

TheRealSy90 03-06-2017 02:42 PM

Yeah I honestly don't know where the misinformation came from saying that the s14 pump was better for s13 engines, I've never bought into that myself. It's better to retain a s13 pump but run an oversized water pump pulley instead to slow it down slightly.

FaLKoN240 03-06-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90 (Post 6174205)
Yeah I honestly don't know where the misinformation came from saying that the s14 pump was better for s13 engines, I've never bought into that myself. It's better to retain a s13 pump but run an oversized water pump pulley instead to slow it down slightly.

I think people confuse it with the s14 water neck.

battery1882 03-07-2017 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6174199)
You were missed this week at button willow. I know you were planning to show up. Hope you make it to April first event.

Yeah I was feeling really sick. Did you do well? See you at the next event!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX (Post 6174203)
Short of it is; S14 impellers are shorter when used on the S13 head due to the different casting between the heads. What this translate to is the impellers themselves simply do not reach far enough into the waterpump housing to have enough surface area to "pump" the water. Its like sticking half your hand out the window vs sticking all your hand out the window. Only half your hand actually gets acted on by the wind in the first scenario.

Look at them side-side. The details are not immediately apparent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90 (Post 6174205)
Yeah I honestly don't know where the misinformation came from saying that the s14 pump was better for s13 engines, I've never bought into that myself. It's better to retain a s13 pump but run an oversized water pump pulley instead to slow it down slightly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240 (Post 6174242)
I think people confuse it with the s14 water neck.

Misinformation comes from frsport.com (http://www.frsport.com/Nissan-21010-...ly_p_2218.html)

I wish I read a little more before purchasing the s14 pump.

https://image.ibb.co/kMoPqF/1112161602.jpg

I was having my car tuned over the weekend and we saw some knocking around 4-5000 rpm. We had to end the session early.
Looking back, I'm wondering if the water pump may have caused problem somewhere and brought the cylinder temperature up.. Coolant temp was fine. Regardless, I'm changing the pump back to s13 one and going over the car to find any issues.

s13driftnut 03-07-2017 10:12 AM

Nice work man, good to see the 240 chassis used in other forms than simply drifting! (My username is just a joke I don't drift lol)

HypnoFish 03-07-2017 11:44 AM

how do you like that enjuku cage?

SR20PWRALTY 03-08-2017 08:30 AM

What fuel pump are you running?

SR20PWRALTY 03-08-2017 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battery1882 (Post 6174487)
Yeah I was feeling really sick. Did you do well? See you at the next event!

Sorry to here. Hope you are better now.

No my times kinda suck but I am out there having fun and learning.

April 1st at willow springs. :2f2f::2f2f::rawk::rawk:

battery1882 03-09-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13driftnut (Post 6174497)
Nice work man, good to see the 240 chassis used in other forms than simply drifting! (My username is just a joke I don't drift lol)

I come from drifting and I think it's one of the greatest skill set to have as a driver. I do find time attack more fun as i'm going against time, objective matter. :)

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Originally Posted by HypnoFish (Post 6174533)
how do you like that enjuku cage?

Love it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6174915)
What fuel pump are you running?

Walbro 255. I need to check on that as well..

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR20PWRALTY (Post 6174936)
Sorry to here. Hope you are better now.

No my times kinda suck but I am out there having fun and learning.

April 1st at willow springs. :2f2f::2f2f::rawk::rawk:

yeah! lt's all about having fun! see you soon man!

Vatche 03-10-2017 11:15 AM

Few people were telling me to upgrade to s15 water pump recently too. I still have the s13 water pump but sucks knowing the s14 pump could potentially be bad for s13

bardabe 03-10-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vatche (Post 6175812)
Few people were telling me to upgrade to s15 water pump recently too. I still have the s13 water pump but sucks knowing the s14 pump could potentially be bad for s13

I was always skeptic when people would tell me that, I've personally never recommended it. Glad i followed my gut instinct.


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