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Brentbohn 01-17-2012 10:44 AM

Join the pettition to correct KBB.com on 240sx values
 
LOW BALLERS NEED NOT APPLY.

I was disgusted in the reflection of values on kbb.com when it came to all 240sx's on there... this does a few negative things for our community at large. First it sets the idea that insurance can pay out less in the event of an accident, secondly it allows non owners to low ball your cars price before you even put it up for sale. Lastly it forces would be sellers to accept even less for their hard work.

I propose that we as a community go to kbb.com and click on contact. Submit a complaint on actual private party value of your car and what it should be...

I have already done this multiple times and have got generic responses....

TeamFRAT 01-17-2012 10:46 AM

People still use KBB as a standard of haggling?


ha...

godrifttoday 01-17-2012 10:47 AM

Waste of time. Should have bought a Porsche, if you get in an accident hire a lawyer. Simple

Brentbohn 01-17-2012 10:57 AM

Well this did happen to the 3000gt/stealth communities in the past 4 years they saw more than a 50% value drop from what I have heard.... Things do decline in value but it would seem that our pride has taken an unjust hit in the past few years... kouki's for 3k and s13's for less than 1k seems really terrible unless your the one purchasing it... lets try

DrftKingIII 01-17-2012 11:01 AM

My late 90's nissan is worth a fortune.

shiftdrift 01-17-2012 11:03 AM

I only paid 3k for my Kouki? So......stop crying.

enkei2k 01-17-2012 11:06 AM

so where's this almighty 'petition' you speak of?

also, how much do you expect 14+ year old cars to cost? The S-chassis is no high end car like mentioned earlier.

KBB for a 98 Supra TT in 'excellent' condition from a private seller is less than $20K. Find me one that's in excellent condition selling for that price.

KBB doesn't give a shit about supply and demand and other variable factors like drift tax.

The older the car, the lower the KBB value. I think it's what they call...depreciation?

shoguner 01-17-2012 11:06 AM

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Someone might think a 240 is worth its weight in gold. but all in all its just a 20 year old pile of metal.

chwks13 01-17-2012 11:06 AM

Wahh wahh. Buy a vehicle actually worth something. The reality of it is s13's are 20 years old and not exactly rare.

raz0rbladez909 01-17-2012 11:07 AM

If it isn't a collectors car it's not going to appreciate, if you were looking for an investment you should've bought something older and less build numbers on them. 240's are cheap for a reason, they aren't very spectacular to anyone but the people interested in them.

Brentbohn 01-17-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 4463849)
If it isn't a collectors car it's not going to appreciate, if you were looking for an investment you should've bought something older and less build numbers on them. 240's are cheap for a reason, they aren't very spectacular to anyone but the people interested in them.

my 98 kouki is one of 1281 total produced.... that is rare

kalypso123 01-17-2012 11:10 AM

honestly, I wouldnt stress over it.

I don't plan on getting into accidents, I drive like a sane human being.

Audios 01-17-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrftKingIII (Post 4463834)
My late 90's nissan is worth a fortune.

lol QFT, they are priced accordingly they wouldn't be so rare if so many idiots didn't drift them into walls. Its an old ass nissan and nothing more.

wonpoo 01-17-2012 11:31 AM

only reason people complain about the value is because they wanna resell it at ta higher value then what is established as normal purchasing price after the car is driven off the lot after it was made 20 years ago.

drift freaq 01-17-2012 11:36 AM

KBB is off on lots of cars. its not just 240's. Seriously the only thing KBB has ever been good for is a bargaining chip on purchasing. In that sense you don't want it to rise.

Oh and most insurance companies do things based on ACV these days. Which is a combination of what the cars sell for real market value and cost of actual replacement parts to fix.

I collected $2700 out of my previous 93.5 G20 when it got wrecked and the blue book on those things is in the trash can.

raz0rbladez909 01-17-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentbohn (Post 4463853)
my 98 kouki is one of 1281 total produced.... that is rare

It was still sold at the same pricepoint as every other year of 240sx, it isn't any better than any other year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonpoo (Post 4463896)
only reason people complain about the value is because they wanna resell it at ta higher value then what is established as normal purchasing price after the car is driven off the lot after it was made 20 years ago.

TRUTH

wonpoo 01-17-2012 11:40 AM

i want prices to stay low i seen automatic S14's try to sell for $8000 local that is bullshit!

deathrace2000 01-17-2012 11:40 AM

Value systems are foolish. An automobile is worth only what someone will pay for it.

Brentbohn 01-17-2012 12:07 PM

you all are missing the point... kbb is potentially going to cost you money down the road.... for some retarded reason all dealerships and potential buyers look at that site to gauge their offers

RandallSharp 01-17-2012 12:14 PM

What if we just all love our cars so much that we're not considering selling them?

:mepoke:

xoxide 01-17-2012 12:21 PM

Actually most dealerships use nada.com now. Kbb is outdated.

fckillerbee 01-17-2012 12:25 PM

KBB doesn't buy cars. Nor do they sell cars. They are a reference guide. Almost like looking on ebay to find out how much your car is worth.

awesome thread.








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BOROSUN 01-17-2012 01:39 PM

Just wait 40 yrs then sell it. It better be worth more than a ft86 or I'm gonna be pissed.

andrew600 01-17-2012 02:33 PM

best thread ive seen in days. i vote my car is worth 4 cows, 2 goats, 5 chickens, and a toothless whore for hummers whenever i want.

if this option is on there i will sign the pet.

DreamN 01-17-2012 02:49 PM

lol this thread brings a smile to my face.

tukn9s 01-17-2012 02:51 PM

Blame the drifters

jefferz 01-17-2012 02:57 PM

kbb list like rust bucket 240's for like a 500 bucks good condition maybe a 1k

DRIFT tax raised the price on dirty s13's

ive never paid more then 500 for an s13.

i've had more then a few

people who want 3k for a s13 there on crack

ShakotanGazelle 01-17-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentbohn (Post 4463797)
LOW BALLERS NEED NOT APPLY.


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badbob2121 01-17-2012 03:09 PM

My s13 KBB's at $1480

any takers? lol

koenig 01-17-2012 06:16 PM

Yeah, the price of bone stock s13's is out of control. I got mine earlier this year with lots of upgrades for $2200, but I was looking for a long time before I found it. These fools who are putting up their stock s13's with quarter panel damage and rust for 3500 are not realizing that the cost gets driven up by upgrades. coils, 5 lug, lsd's, motor swaps, cages, etc.

'tis ridiculous.


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