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looking good so far, what are your plans?
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complete s14 suspension swap front and rear..5 lug'd, Z32 brakes, rb26 w/ single turbo
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nice! headed in the right direction haha
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i wanna see more pics of the suspension swap and info
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HAHA..everyone does, its hard finding the proper pics to install the subframe. Front is relatively easy, just depends on what ur plans and budget are. Front.. just bolt the arms in, get some knuckles and fab some coil mounts or buy the weld in kit.. Rear takes a little more time with the tape measure. lol
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...iffinstall.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/diff2.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/diff4.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/006-1.jpg Sorry for the first few being small..cell pics. I'll have to upload more on the front and rear coil mounts later |
Mainly crappy cell pics, but didn't have a working camera at the time..
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...10430-1703.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...10422-1608.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...00915-2034.jpg The wheel looks like it's sitting forward more, but that's how they sit from the factory..even with the sub swap, u can't really mount it back any further http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...tsunbuild6.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...atsunbuild.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/008-2.jpg |
dang buddy looks great
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Nice z..makes me regret selling mine....u should have kept the og dash
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still have it along with console, but its cracked like all
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Dash caps aren't that expensive. Not to knock you, but I don't get the appeal of a boring S13 dash compared to the classically styled and very useful original dash. The 3 gauge pods are perfect for mounting aftermarket gauges. I couldn't even tell mine had a dash cap when I bought it.
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either way looks like a very informative build!
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True dash caps are cheap, but they still don't fit as nice or have the same feel as original. Originally I wanted to do a s15 lhd dash but too costly to just cut up, and the s13 dash was only $20.. In the long run everybody has the original dash with aftermarket gauges.. its been done and over done. The car isn't original anymore and will be far from. Main reason behind all of the projects I do.. Built not bought! |
this looks sweet. makes me want to force my friend to start his s30 project!
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Critics will always criticize you..it's your car, you put the effort to build it..do as you please
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s13 coils?
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DAMN, anybody wanna trade a 240z for my 240sx? i love old school cars.
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ya I used s13 coils with custom rear bottoms..or you can just s14 the whole thing but you have to change the tops on the rears..
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Yeh but the S14's are too long to be useful in the rear.
Ryan - this is Aaron - text me someday when you're working on it and I'll swing by. Got a new phone n lost all the contacts lol. Build looks sick btw. Give everyone a peek of the Camaro too :P |
Not to knock but the s14's are actually perfect.. I had to extend the rears 3" to get the clearance I needed, the bottoms then work out to be the same length as s14 in the long run, just the tops are wider..
Now its not a Z but still sexy as F*** http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...guy_rs/011.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...guy_rs/010.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/012-1.jpg |
Yep - sorry I meant to say S14's are too long to be useful for me. I mounted my subframe flush with the stock surface, not 1.75" down like yours, and with a Z32 perch on the bottom it is money, my lower control arm is flat (yours points up to get to the spindle).
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/diff4.jpg Those templates are mint though - I'll send you the picture link if you feel like posting them. I can't get over how dope the RS looks. |
Thx man, and ya we might have to start fabin these things up, selling to those who want them.. but as for the dats
i'll have to take a new pic that's the old one with no coils just a 1x4" block of wood lol.. If you use the s13 coils in the rear with s13 bottoms the bottoms literally are only threaded on about 1-2 turns = Dangerous.. mounting it the way u have done will work to give u more threads and tuck it for a cleaner rail, but the hump that is on the front of the subframe will touch the floor guaranteed.. unless u cut the storage pockets up as well.. In addition the higher you go with the subframe the less clearance ur gunna have with the tires to flares or 1/4's. I currently have a 205/50/15 and had to extend the bottoms because the 1/4's were on the tires = No roll lol Eventually gunna be running a 17x9.5... so in the long run the more turns on the coils u have initially the less pain in the a** u'll have down the road |
Yah dude - I'm going straight to 17x9, 17x11. I am taking out all of that crap that mounts the nose of the S30 diff and it gives enough clearance for the new subframe hump. On HybridZ theres a build called "Introducing Gaijin" that he mounts it the way I am and he's on 18's with no issues on the same superwide BAMF flares. (He also is running full RB26 awd drivetrain :|) If it does come down to it I'll order a slightly longer spring from HSD/Stance.
For sure - if my buddy with the laser cutter is willing to knock off a bunch of sets I'm down for splitting sales. This is Zilvia, running the tires into the 1/4's is 'proper' fitment, no? Lol. |
we'll talk more tom i'll give u a shout in the afternoon
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its been a while
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http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/photo.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/photo2.jpg little progress on the body, motor is in the works.. will update when i have the pics |
awesome project, should turn out to be a great car. i think the dash gives the car a more up to date feel and comfort to the interior too.
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Thanks alot, now i'm going to have to get a s30 and consequently .... get divorced!
jk, love these cars, looking forward to moar!! subbed |
Curious about using the S14 LCAs in the front. Was this a bolt in affair, or did you machine a spacer/bushing to make them bolt to the subframe correctly? Also, what tie rods are you using?
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bolt er up.. stock s30 tie rods and stock s14 arms
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still running stock rack as well.. hybridz have talked about s13 racks and from what i've read u can use a jdm rack and flip it or there are a couple other options aswell, just haven't tried it yet
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Sub'd got any more detailed pics of the front suspension setup? I've been thinking about doing s13/14 front lca's, spindles and what not I just don't have the parts yet to test fit. It seems like it widens the track out quite a bit from stock, or is that just an aggressive offset on the wheels?
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If you're using the stock front mount steering rack, with S14 knuckles, how are you making the tie rods reach the mounting points on the knuckles? Aren't the mounting points in the rear on the S14?
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as for the knuckles, they are both identicle so u can swap sides= front mount rack.. guys have been doing it and its proven. and the stock s30 rods reach with lots of adjustment |
wouldn't swapping sides mess with the built in ackerman?
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not sure but its a common swap for these so it cant be affecting too much..
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Cool beans man I hope it works out right cause this is badd ass!
Love these cars ... This is pushing me towards my next build being one :) |
Bored, honed.. rings filed and installed, shes coming along
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/photo1.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/photo2-1.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/photo3.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/photo4.jpg just needs paint and need some further assembly |
mmmm shiney ha
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Little update..
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/photo1-1.jpg so motor is coming along still need to get a couple big ticket items.. oil pan, trans and buy mckinney or fab some mounts etc. Currently the subframe is ripped out getting powdered and adj. arms being freshened.. picked up a sexy pair of these the other night http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/bride.jpg super stoked for these seats, love them.. but me being 6,5' I sit too high with stock z seat mounts, normal for most.. I just like sitting lower so gonna fab some brackets and reweld them in. more to come.. |
I tried looking in your suspension pic but what did you use for the tension rods?
Did you swap tension rod and bracket or did you use the factory ones and redrill if needed? Also, does anyone know if there is any difference between the s13 and s14 LCA in terms of the subframe mounting point. Would S13 gear work also? |
U can use either depends on preference..arms mount the same and what u mean by gear?
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Which way did you go with the tension rod factory or 240sx? If 240 did you use the tension rod bracket and drill holes? |
I went factory but either way u need to modify something and the rear subframe won't be a straight bolt in gunna have to fab for that aswell
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Got it, I bought a 240sx donor car that I'm going to tune everything for the Z on and then swap it all over. I'm trying to decide if getting aftermarket LCA's and tension rods can work in the Z application. How much welding did you have to do for the rear sub frame? |
very cool project, can't wait to see it moar complete
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U gotta look at the pics dude, it's not a quick swap.. From the sounds of it, just get a mint running sr20 an buy some mounts, wire it to the car and buy 240z aftermarket arms from techno toy tuning and weld on some coils get some wheels.. Done. then u can look cool like everybody else
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I'm just saying that it looks good, no animosity intended. Just because i DO have a SR20 in my 240 doesn't mean i spent any less time or effort on it than you did, kind sir. I do like your engine though, carry on. |
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sub'd.. looking forward to seeing it done.
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Love the S13 dash and the RB swap, can't wait to see this done! Don't give up on it!
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Looking good, in for updates.
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Def. not giving up! Just delayed on stuff and work lol.. I need to roll the dat out and weld up some more frame before the subframe goes back in but no free time lately. Was gonna do it today but it decided to rain, so hopefully tom. Also waiting to get my sub back from powder coat so I can reassemble and get some pics up. Unseized all my multi link except for my cusco camber arms.. To the parts bin they go, and need to decide on new ones.
Hopefully in the next couple weeks I can have the motor complete and ready to drop in.. Or at least temporarily to fab some mounts.. Once that's done it should start coming together a lot easier with just plumbing and wiring. |
K so still waiting on a trans.. I have someone i've worked a deal out with so hopefully i will be seeing that soon.. In the mean time this is what i've been up to
bought a rear sump pan, price was great and certainly not anywhere near the price of the mckinney ones. Only problem i ordered it for a rb20/25.. so now have to mod the pickup but no biggie http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/rearsump.jpg Also received my subframe back all nicely powdered so installed some bushings and threw it back together :) http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/subframe.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/subrear.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o.../sidefit18.jpg I've maxed out the camber in the rear.. it isn't horrible but not the look i'm going for.. Also fixed the front when i installed the new sub up there, seems to be a bit better the tires are a little more flat on the ground. Keep in mind the set that's on it now are 15x8 et 0, looking for 15x9.5 +15 or 17x9.5 +15 http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o.../sidefit17.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o.../sidefit11.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/stanced.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/sidefit3.jpg That's it for now stance wise until i come across something else, but in the mean time i've been playing with some wiring :ugh: lol http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/wiring.jpg I could just buy a wiring kit for like $700 but why? It's super simple if u can read them and get the proper diagrams with pinouts.. most of the engine harness is divided up already just need to get the motor in and get the proper lenghts of wire to make it all pretty in loom tucked out of sight :) |
The dash looks great man. Good work, keep it up.
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Props for doing your own wiring, glad to see someone else doing everything they can themselves!
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in for more...
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Swapping the front knuckles from left to right would also make the brake calipers to be in different locations...positioned in front instead of back.
Any foreseeable problems or issues? All I can think of off the top of my head is location of the brake line holder bracket on the strut. Anything else? Cool build. More updates, pics please! -Jose |
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Now time for an update!
This is what the garage looked like a week ago http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/photo12.jpg and that same night http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o.../photo22-1.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/photo23.jpg currently the motor is in for mockup purposes, harness, fuel routing ect.. and no I will not be running the twin setup, I have a hx35 to go on as previously mentioned.. on that subject anybody have a power fc and commander they want to part with??! lol I decided not to make mounts and order a set of Mckinney ones instead.. awesome looking product but there is only one issue... http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/photo13.jpg Apparently from what I can see here and researching other builds the kits are made solely for rb20, 25 and R34 rb26 valve covers.. The pcv ports sit back further on the R32 rb26 and there isn't enough clearance between them and the OE hood latch bracket.. So any ideas besides r34 covers and or putting a different fitting in? cuz it is too tight.. The engine harness is coming along, been busy nightly with it.. still need to order the rest of the harness to wire the car up tho, like lights, gauges ect.. as for total ride height.. the fronts are fully maxed out and rear could still go lower with the modified bottoms, but i think it sits alright for now on 15's http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/photo32.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o.../photo42-1.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o..._rs/photo5.jpg about 3 1/2 at sub and 2 1/4 at rails from scraping pavement lol |
Making some good progress!
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Your oil-pan/bottom-of-engine doesn't look like its sitting level in reference to the crossmember.
It's hard to tell from the one pic. That thing is gonna be slammed like crazy! Awesome progress, though. Keep up the good work, Jose |
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It's not supposed to sit level. The rb motors sit 1.0-1.5 inches lower on the drivers (left) side than the pass (right) side depending on what mounts used. O.P thats a nice rear sump pan you have there. Looks really nice! |
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looks good to me.
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Ya preferably in the side
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BTW, love your work over on HybridZ. If I wasn't going SR in my Z I would def be hitting you up for some RB conversion parts. Looking at RB builds makes me almost want to change over. -Jose |
Some guy on sixspeedonline has one similar to the direction this project is going.
It might be a good guide for the appearance details. My Latest Track Car Build... - 6speedonline.com Forums |
Another build thread abandoned?
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Sorry dudes!! The build will never be abandoned just progress is very slow atm... Feel like I haven't touched it in a while but the funds have been diverted to a wedding and a house.. I ended picking up an ek hatch over the winter to do up quick and sell for datsun funds, and to also shrug the winter blues. I will post pics of that soon..
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Ain't nobody got time for an ek, we want more Datsun!!!!! Haha good luck with the flip :) I have an s30 as well.
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http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/image-3.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...rs/image-2.jpg http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...y_rs/image.jpg Have more pics to come.. Not of honda's, but of datsun goodies that I have forgotten about lol. Been a while since the garage has seen the light of day.. |
Shit you're in Waterloo Ohio?
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Nope lol waterloo, ontario Canada
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Damn I woulda stop by and helped you out if you needed it sometime
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Little pic update as promised..lol
New 15 Gal fuel cell http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...photo1-1-3.jpg Couple other vital pieces http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...photo2-1-3.jpg current state.. had to snap a pic while cleaning up the workspace lol http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...fd339887d4.jpg |
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Looks like I have a long way to go! LOL
looking great man. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2 |
This is a really cool build, looks good
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^ Thx ya.. its definitly been a while since ive updated or have really done anything to this. Car is still a go! just sorting out a new place to live has taken my funds and priorities atm lol.
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any chance you can take better pics of the front s13 swapped knuckle installed? I want to do this with my s30 cause i dont feel like welding on the lower bracket for my stance coilovers.
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^ its pretty straight forward, just mount the knuckles on the opposite sides.. the calipers will then mount towards the doors as oppose to the font of vehicle. leave the control arms for the correct sides
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Beautiful
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This pretty awesome.
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It's definitely been a while..couple shots i took tonight, parts are on order and more fab work to come. Hopefully if all goes to plan this year it will be doing dirty burnouts and breaking necks lol
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Suscribed ! I'm thinking very seriously of doing the S13 rear multilink on my 260z ! Please update and could you get pics of the front mounts of the rear subframe.
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