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Manji's are awesome. They are alot of fun when you are gaining speed and drifting back and forth down a skinny length of cement. Plus they are the next step in training after figure 8's. they will really help you with trasitioning. but they usually come after you have learned to transition, lol. Quote:
Whats a transfer? Like when your skateboarding, and you go from one ramp to another? transfer. I call it transition, when the car changes its positioning in a drift. am i off? Quote:
here. Run from HTM a long time ago. looks like i get traction, but pretty sure i was able to get on the ebrake fast enough to keep it out. SOHC, welded, springs n shocks. &fs=1" width="644" height="390">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JwsG0q0j2ls&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JwsG0q0j2ls&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> |
hahaha great video Castro. Now where's the Eric Castro Approve stamp at the end of it?
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I do go to the track and I have a high & Low Hp car. I auctually drift more w/ my bone n/a sohc. What I need to do is work on my high speed drifts. . I do take it back tho JR did use the ebrake on a 180 turn but besides that he was just using momentum to transfer. I hardly ever use the ebrake and eventhough I dont practice high speed drifts as much I still do and all you have to do is have the right speed, angle and have good throttle controll for a car that has decent power. I also see where you are comming from on closing the gap and stretching the drift I guess Im just a little harder on the eng... haha I do pretty good w/o but Ive been limited to 3 tracks and just like you said I need to practice I know its allot about the car set up and I hope this will provide input into peoples builds cause the better the set up the the more accuraccy obtained. Thanks for the input eric hopefully ill see you at willowsprings one day. Im moving my events there so I will be able to practice. Very informative video too |
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Feint is hands down my favorite thing to do. I blame Mitsuru Hariguchi. Dude was awesome when he had his fc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQGUsoPPgU @ 00:38 |
^^ yea man holland drift was sick.
Im about to install a hydro ebrake now man fuk the dumb shiz... |
BTW, z32 ebrake is the jam. I had no problem locking them up at 100mph at buttonwillow for the Hellaflush event. I like it better than hydro.
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I was out there.. which car did you have there? I have never used a hydro my buddy was the one with the gloria
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This is me. I was doing 4th gear entries after the competition was done. Early in the day we were doing 3rd gear stuff to practice for the team comp.
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You are not harder on the engine then me, lol.:love: And technically, if you were harder on the engine, you would be getting even more out of it and prolly want to use the ebrake to keep a drift after a long shallow transition. I actually ebrake more in my SOHC. Its because i dont have the power to maintain really long drifts or get the car to step back out when its trying to catch. Or Because i lack the power to actually propel myself away from a wall, so as i come in sideways, i need to slow it down so as i am coming around a wall, i dont get in deeper than a little tap. yeah, come to the track. Here is a run i did at Balconey years ago. 3rd gear entry with ebrake, shift into 2nd during the transition. Since i lift to transition, it makes it easy to put the clutch in during that time and shift really fast. you can see where i am clutch kicking because the car steps out pretty hard. &fs=1" width="644" height="390">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/g6utQQAcAjM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0 x9461ca"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/g6utQQAcAjM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0 x9461ca" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> |
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Come to 626 event...i teach you secret. lol....there is sooooooooooooooooooo much different situations involved. Get Forza 3. Learn how to drift differently in the game, it'll help you for real life. I'm really big on clutch kicking. Balcony, 3rd gear initiation, clutch kit, don't lift till transition, quickly counter, and never lift....any other track is about the same. I only use e-brake for mistakes. I don't have enough power to e-brake initiate....its not worth it. here is a video compliments of castro. at 1:10, you can see the "quick" flick of the steering wheel to get the weight to transfer. (stock ka on 18's for the record...anyone can drift) at 1:38, you can see it at a different angle, doesn't look like a big flick, but it's enough to get the car to slide out, and I used to brake during transition to stable the car, but with time...i don't need to anymore. vimeo: 626 march madness and I have driven almost every different type of car and setup, so I have a wide learning range of cars for balcony specific, but I'm sure with certain setups, they will be just as good on other tracks. and I've had no problem drifting a completely stock SOHC. (i once had someone tell me it couldn't be done in his car) |
Eric Castro, I need to drive down to Cali and get some driving lessons from you, the master of the SOHC. :)
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As for techniques, I tend to weight transfer and clutch kick. But of course it really depends on the track. On the buttonwillow offramp I would hug the inside at the top of third, flick it to the outside and clutch kick as I turned back in. I would use the ebrake and adjust angle if I felt I needed more, then towards the end if I slowed down too much I would shift down to second. I tend to feel it out on a turn by turn basis. But primarily I like to clutch kick. |
To the OP. IMO Its only weak to use the ebrake when its not nessecary.
For initiating, I almost never use ebrake, some turns that are akward though, like a turn that starts out slow & tight, then becomes wider and faster towards the exit its sometimes more accurate to use the ebrake to initiate then drop the clutch at apex and use your power on the exit line, especially if you don't have a lot of room on entry. Like when rally drivers enter hairpins they kickit out with the handbrake and punch it at apex to save the exit. Normally though clutch kick is the way to go, it looks great and keeps a lot of speed. During transition it will come naturally when to let off and whip the car around, you would only use the handbrake if you messed up your angle or are coming in really fast to a tight turn and want to hug the apex with the nose going around it. You should also try left foot braking. |
Haruguchi's rally-quick is IMO the fucking baddest flick out there.
I enjoy it raw, loud, and intense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw |
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I have hit some big drifts w/o the ebrake but not out there. it was out at Etown club loose... been a while. I will be transfering to willowsprings cause I need to train on the bigger turns. and I hear springs has a membership where its real cheap now :) so see you there and we can put description into actuality... Quote:
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All of these techniques are very simple in a Miata. You guys should try it out some time..
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june 4 buttonwillow track day. come on out. practice these techniques. |
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Im workin up my way up :) I hung out with the best... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/beezon/da.jpg my pad after Etown formula D in 06 when I lived in jersey/// Damn I miss those days but keeps me motivated. |
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All of the events i put on I have made 0$ because I just want people gain the passion that I do for the sport and realize that its not that easy. see you there tho |
awesome, glad to hear.
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This thread has a lot more information than I thought there would be. haha. Good stuff. Now only if I could read it...
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^^ yea it surprised me aswell... this is the beginning of Eric Castros Learn how to drift the "Right" way.. cause Drifting for dummies just wouldnt cut it... and chicken soup for the drifters soul would just be :ghey:
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Hey guys,
I'm actually new to drifting, but have always been a fan, WAAAAAY before tokyo drift and all that other nonsense coming from the new "scene". I'm not going to pose and act like I know anything about drifting or act like I actually do, because I dont. But I've always wanted to hit up a track to LEARN. But I've always been scared because I dont want to get flamed or dissed for being a complete noob. Are people at the track nice/willing to give advice to someone wanting to learn? I'm pretty self conscious about what other people think, but at the same time I want to grow and learn more about what its like to drift. I love spectating, but I actually want to be the one behind the wheel. So I was just wondering what it's like to hit up the track, and the experience drivers have with fellow drivers on the same track. I guess the main point im trying to ask is: What's the best way to learn this sport. I know you guys are giving advice and techniques, but is it best to just start out at a track and have other drivers help? Sorry if you think i'm thread jacking, but I didnt want to strat a new thread. Im trying to keep it to the topic of techniques and learning, but everyone mentions the track and I was just interested what track experience is like. thanks |
The point of track events is to learn, dude. Go out and have fun. Who cares what other people think of your driving. Fun is what it's all about. :)
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this should give you a nice idea of what to do in drift/into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHP1c...layer_embedded |
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you are a perfect candidate to come to a 626 drift event. We have plenty instructors on site, and eric castro and myself are one of the instructors there. We have a lot of seat time, and would love to get you behind a wheel. Most people are shy, but we aren't, come out to a meet, meet some of the guys, we are all really friendly people. http://626drift.com/ |
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