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word sux 08-07-2011 01:58 PM

government spending is NUTS!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AgL-I3PxHE

ESmorz 08-07-2011 02:07 PM

Fucking knew it was going to be squirrels.

Fractur3 08-07-2011 02:11 PM

That video was awesome lol. Only way to fix it is to cut spending and increase income. Seems pretty simple.

simmode1 08-07-2011 02:55 PM

^^^Yes, but how do we increase income if the corporations are still refusing to hire, slashing expenses & pocketing all the profits?

Fractur3 08-07-2011 03:07 PM

taxes. on everybody. I don't think a 1% flat rate across the board is going to hurt anyone.

I don't know what cutting medicare is gonna do either besides hurt people, nursing homes and care facilities are now just cutting back on labor so yes they save that money, but now they're taking more jobs away.. I'm not big into politics, I can't stand how everyone in Washington can't get along, but its past that stage. Put your differences aside and fix the damn problem.

Freddy 08-07-2011 04:08 PM

you Americans need a tax reform so this doesn't happen

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...pagewanted=all

lewisfk 08-07-2011 04:54 PM

^^ did someone say something about raising TAXES? Next mid term election vote DEMOCRAT, and the taxes will get raised! If u voted tea party u have no one to blame but your self!

simmode1 08-07-2011 05:16 PM

Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

TheWolf 08-07-2011 05:57 PM

is tired of class warfare.. earn your own shit.. keep your own shit..

Phlip 08-07-2011 06:31 PM

Moving this thread to Loud Noises, where none of the posts in the ensuing argument will count toward post counts.

S14DB 08-07-2011 06:40 PM

Budget Hero | Marketplace from American Public Media

Corbic 08-07-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1 (Post 4187608)
Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

Better yet, Fuck them companies! Lets have the Government just raid them and take over. Then they can hire us and just make sure to pay us all fairly and get rid of those fat cat money grubbing bastards!

:hahano:


(sarcasm for the idiots out there)

Agamemnon 08-07-2011 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1 (Post 4187608)
Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

That's the ticket! Punish those that succeed.

Then after that, we'll force corporations to stay in America so we can over tax them and they'll have nowhere to run.

The american dream lives on.....

jorge1190 08-07-2011 08:17 PM

Yeah tax the wealthy, because the broke ass people in the world are the ones investing money and creating successful corporations. Some people do the right things and get money other don't, you earn it you should keep it just as much as anyone else.

We do need some sort of reform to keep huge corporations from avoiding all taxes.

RJF 08-07-2011 08:20 PM

Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?

ineedone 08-07-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF (Post 4187888)
Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?

They pay taxes... just not income... But payroll, goods, services, etc...

RJF 08-07-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ineedone (Post 4187889)
They pay taxes... just not income... But payroll, goods, services, etc...

Well, that's not paying their fair share.

You know how much Mark and I are penalized for owning Zilvia and if we manage to have a few dollars left at the end of the year? We get hit with Self-employment taxes and penalties for not withholding during the year.

How are we supposed to know if we will have a profit at the end of the year when things change and fluctuate during the year? Right now we are paying off credit card bills for $8000 in server and network equipment.

How does that type of attitude help small businesses plan for the future and try to hire and pay employees, even if they are just part-time?

ineedone 08-07-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJF (Post 4187910)
Well, that's not paying their fair share.

You know how much Mark and I are penalized for owning Zilvia and if we manage to have a few dollars left at the end of the year? We get hit with Self-employment taxes and penalties for not withholding during the year.

How are we supposed to know if we will have a profit at the end of the year when things change and fluctuate during the year? Right now we are paying off credit card bills for $8000 in server and network equipment.

How does that type of attitude help small businesses plan for the future and try to hire and pay employees, even if they are just part-time?

Be mad at GE for paying 0$! Stop being slackers and become a multi-billion dollar business than you do not have to pay anything... much less a fair share.

What is your view of "fair" the 50% who do not pay income own what percentage of the wealth as a whole? What is it now the top 5% own over 50% of all the wealth in the country?

This is not to say that some people take advantage of it, but the ones doing it on the bottom have no where near the impact of the ones on top who do it.

bb4_96 08-09-2011 08:56 AM

VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.

Corbic 08-09-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb4_96 (Post 4190493)
VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.

Then nobody would spend... No body spends, nobody makes money...

bb4_96 08-09-2011 09:39 AM

haha like when gas goes up past $3 a gallon and we all walk.

ch1873857 08-09-2011 09:51 AM

i work for one of the regional support commands in afghanistan. i see how much money is dumped in this shithole country. how about 20 billion? just in afghan aid THIS YEAR alone. thats not including the cost of us being over here. our on spending. so take 50 billion/ year out of the yearly debt, and things would be much different. just saying. 50 billion goes a long way.. its not the answer but we sure as hell wouldnt hear about our credit ratings going down, killing our market. its so frustrating. i just gave 150k to some afghans to dump poo water out of an ANA base that doesnt get used for the purpose we built it. for all we know the taliban are taking up camp there because they magically disappear when the americans come. ok /rant

sw20>>s14 08-09-2011 01:46 PM

but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

Fractur3 08-09-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1 (Post 4187608)
Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

Lol the only reason they go overseas is because they can't afford the taxes and expenses here. Your force them to come back, you might as well close the doors because shit is too expensive here. It makes no sense to punish the people who get college educations and put there neck on the line to make a lot of money, and employ hundreds of people. If they are going to raise taxes, they need to do it on 100% of America, not 5%, thats like taking a 30 year loan on a $10k car, why even bother?

ch1873857 08-09-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20>>s14 (Post 4190975)
but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

haha :ughd: this is more that aid.. this is like.... christmas for an entire country :wackit:

upsdude 08-09-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20>>s14 (Post 4190975)
but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?


god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!:picardfp:

S14DB 08-09-2011 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upsdude (Post 4191939)
god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!:picardfp:

Only a few Billion...

Foreign aid to Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ch1873857 08-10-2011 01:20 AM

pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.

Corbic 08-10-2011 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857 (Post 4192118)
pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.

Have India fight Pakastan. Their just looking for an excuse.

ronmcdon 08-10-2011 12:12 PM

^^

Hypothetically, I wonder how beneficial that scenario would be to the US?


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