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coreansurfer 11-20-2009 06:41 PM

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Omarius Maximus 11-21-2009 04:02 AM

anyone have a walther g22? I'm thinking about picking one up. That or a gsg5....can't make up my mind.

TheWolf 11-21-2009 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Omarius Maximus (Post 3145330)
anyone have a walther g22? I'm thinking about picking one up. That or a gsg5....can't make up my mind.

I have shot both and own a gsg5.

Get a GSG5. A set of HK mp5 push pins for disassembly and clean it every 300 rounds and it's great.

There's also a ton of airsoft mp5 stuff that works. ar15.com has a good gsg5 section in the armory.

coreansurfer 11-21-2009 01:22 PM

anything you recommend with a little more stopping power?

I LUV MY S13 11-21-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG (Post 1890955)
haha
gets nasty?
get down to business!


haha
awesome!!!


HAHA seriously

if my walk in the park or taking out the trash gets hectic... :rl::rl:

Genovese.Jr 11-21-2009 02:13 PM

carry it if youre walking youre dog that would be against the law it has to be in youre pants hidden you just cant have it out in the open like that but police officers could proubly make good use of it eather way its pretty bad ass

NismoDriverS13 11-21-2009 02:28 PM

im russian, i got connections to russian military weapon pile ups. haha. so this is nothing new or interesting.

I had seen and shot multiple variations of the AK and seen some rare and fired some rare guns.....

Bubbles 11-21-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree (Post 1893100)

Machine pistols have been around since the '30s, at least. AFAIK, George "Baby Face" Nelson carried 1911s (in both .38 Super and .45ACP) converted to auto, with Cutts compensators on the front and Thompson vertical foregrips attached to the dust cover.


A guy who was a murderer,bank robber, and gang member is the best example you could use to normalize the idea of carrying around an automatic weapon in everyday life?

ESmorz 11-21-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles (Post 3145775)
A guy who was a murderer,bank robber, and gang member is the best example you could use to normalize the idea of carrying around an automatic weapon in everyday life?

Yeah, but he was totally badass...

Bubbles 11-21-2009 03:12 PM

Maybe, but I don't want Johnny 'douchebag' Six pack coming into the local Blockbuster waving his automatic flashlight(not a sexual euphemism) in my face because he can't cope with late fees.



That's all I'm sayin'

gotta240 11-21-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Genovese.Jr (Post 3145731)
carry it if youre walking youre dog that would be against the law it has to be in youre pants hidden you just cant have it out in the open like that but police officers could proubly make good use of it eather way its pretty bad ass


I think your confused on laws

S14DB 11-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles (Post 3145819)
Maybe, but I don't want Johnny 'douchebag' Six pack coming into the local Blockbuster waving his automatic flashlight(not a sexual euphemism) in my face because he can't cope with late fees.



That's all I'm sayin'

I don't think "Johnny 'douchebag' Six pack" got his guns legally.

dynamicck 11-21-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by coreansurfer (Post 3145662)
anything you recommend with a little more stopping power?

Depends on what stopping power you want.
And also where you plan on using it?
Home or business protection? Hunting?
pistols
9mm to practice or conceal carry (legally of course)
.45 for stopping power for home protection

revolvers
.357 magnum can use .38 rounds too, never jams.
.38 for carry

Shotguns are amazing home defense. Just not as convenient.

DETT 11-21-2009 04:32 PM

Wow liberals jumped in here fast, this gun isn't gonna make it out either way you look at it, magpul showed it quite some time and for this to make it into civilian hands it would have to have a 16 inch barrel at the shortest, unless you get one that is NFA from the factory, which in that case you have to pass extensive atf paperwork to get the go ahead.

With that said I don't care for it, has meh practicality unless your a james bond wanna be, and although glocks are great handguns I can't shoot them worth a damn. I carry a HK p2000sk everyday and there is a 1911 by my bed.

I just ordered my FN SCAR last thursday so it should be at my local dealer when I get home on the 24th, paid 2240 OTD from a shop in florida on gunbroker. Hopefully gonna find a way to either cut the barrel or find a manufacturer that plans on making scar barrels I think CMMG is looking to get into that. If not no need to go the SBR route.

g-via 11-21-2009 06:34 PM

I am curious to why people need to carry handguns to protect themselves from day to day transactions (unless for occupational/special reasons).

Guns are cool nonetheless.

oscarmagana 11-21-2009 07:44 PM

too bad it will never be sold to the public or law enforcement i could seriously use one of those in my profession.

DETT 11-22-2009 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by g-via (Post 3146129)
I am curious to why people need to carry handguns to protect themselves from day to day transactions (unless for occupational/special reasons).

Guns are cool nonetheless.

shit happens man, there are alot of crazy mofos out there that will do anything to get buy and even more crazies out there that are just messed up in the head. This is just one example where if someone had a gun on them a couple innocent lives may have been saved.

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was jacked for 20 bucks at knife point a few years back going back to my car after being out with friends for the night, that was one instance where I wish I had a gun but was too young at the time because things could have gone a lot worse.

If you don't feel like carrying so be it but there are quite a few like myself that feel very strongly for that issue. I got my permit the first chance I could get it when I turned 21 and have been carrying every day since, except for when I was at school due to the law not allowing it.

BRAIN_Z33 11-22-2009 11:03 AM

I WANT THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

CusCo_S14 11-22-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAIN_Z33 (Post 3146856)


this just got added to my x-mas list

MADE 11-22-2009 12:26 PM

Nice but I'd take the Saiga-12 for under 400 bones.

usdm180sx 11-22-2009 03:11 PM

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cc4usmc 11-22-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by g-via (Post 3146129)
I am curious to why people need to carry handguns to protect themselves from day to day transactions (unless for occupational/special reasons).

Because all the bad guys out there are carrying them. Like DETT said, shit happens. There's a new story everyday in my local news where someones been shot and killed.

Sacto 9-1-1: Boy, 16, shot and killed outside a south Sacramento apartment complex

There's the one for today. You shouldn't ever think that the stuff you hear in the news can't happen to you.



I don't know why they would design a fully auto shotgun for the military when you're not even supposed to shoot people with shotguns. They're only used for "breaching".

DrtyRat 11-22-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 3147369)
Because all the bad guys out there are carrying them. Like DETT said, shit happens. There's a new story everyday in my local news where someones been shot and killed.

Sacto 9-1-1: Boy, 16, shot and killed outside a south Sacramento apartment complex

There's the one for today. You shouldn't ever think that the stuff you hear in the news can't happen to you.

Agreed. Its better to have one and not need it, than need it and not have it.
Here's mine:
Springfield XD9 Subcompact
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g-via 11-22-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 3147369)
Because all the bad guys out there are carrying them. Like DETT said, shit happens. There's a new story everyday in my local news where someones been shot and killed.

Sacto 9-1-1: Boy, 16, shot and killed outside a south Sacramento apartment complex

There's the one for today. You shouldn't ever think that the stuff you hear in the news can't happen to you.



I don't know why they would design a fully auto shotgun for the military when you're not even supposed to shoot people with shotguns. They're only used for "breaching".

i know shit like this happens everyday.

i guess it's just pathetic that the human race has to carry around handguns in fear of getting attacked everyday of their lives.

most altercation i've gotten into has involved feet and fists, and i guess i'm happy about that. i lived, they lived.

you get in a fight, you dead.

Omarius Maximus 11-22-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWolf (Post 3145346)
I have shot both and own a gsg5.

Get a GSG5. A set of HK mp5 push pins for disassembly and clean it every 300 rounds and it's great.

There's also a ton of airsoft mp5 stuff that works. ar15.com has a good gsg5 section in the armory.

sweet, sounds like the gsg5 it is. I've always wanted one with a laser sight....

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cc4usmc 11-22-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by g-via (Post 3147737)
i know shit like this happens everyday.

i guess it's just pathetic that the human race has to carry around handguns in fear of getting attacked everyday of their lives.

Then why do you ask why people feel the need to carry guns to protect themselves?

And, are you saying that the people who want to carry to protect themselves are pathetic or the people who make people feel as though they need to protect themselves? (Good guys or the bad guys)

mrmephistopheles 11-22-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by g-via (Post 3146129)
I am curious to why people need to carry handguns to protect themselves from day to day transactions (unless for occupational/special reasons).

Because you can't carry a policeman* with you everywhere you go.

*Note: Policeman would only be good for stopping criminal activity. For the US at least, a high court (The Supreme one.) has ruled that the police have NO duty to protect and defend citizens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po.../28scotus.html

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Originally Posted by BRAIN_Z33 (Post 3146856)
I WANT THIS

Sweetass shotty. I'd love to see what a 32rd magazine of 00 buck could do to a refrigerator or something similar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-via (Post 3147737)
i know shit like this happens everyday.

i guess it's just pathetic that the human race has to carry around handguns in fear of getting attacked everyday of their lives.

most altercation i've gotten into has involved feet and fists, and i guess i'm happy about that. i lived, they lived.

you get in a fight, you dead.

I agree that it's pathetic that there are criminals out there with such little regard for human life as to make it necessary for people to arm themselves on a daily basis.

Ideally, disagreements are settled with words. Fighting is immature behavior, and anyone carrying a firearm should only use it if their life is threatened.

cc4usmc 11-22-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles (Post 3147799)
*Note: Policeman would only be good for stopping criminal activity. For the US at least, a high court (can't recall which at the moment) has ruled that the police have NO duty to protect and defend citizens.

Please remember soon lol

mrmephistopheles 11-22-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 3147803)
Please remember soon lol

GOOOOGLE'd.

It was the SUPREME Court.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po.../28scotus.html



Also, get on your AIM.

cc4usmc 11-22-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles (Post 3147811)
Also, get on your AIM.

Thank you sir.

Me? Am I in trouble? lol


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