SR/KA debate WTF is everyone's problem

[rotaryknight]

Being newer to the forum I am new to the SR/KA debate.  I honestly think it is a bunch of crap.

From what I've seen on the forum there are only a few members who really care about performance and honestly I think that they are the ones who care the least about what motor to go with.

Most of the people who seem to argue the debate are the "if i had the money i would get....." or "I'm gonna buy a turbo and rum crazy HP..oh but hey can i make my own manifold cuz they are so expensive."  

If someone is serious about performance and has the money it honestly doesn't matter which motor you go with.  

For me an SR is a great opportunity. I have 260k miles on the car.  Even if i get another KA and tranny chances are they will have more miles than the SR Clip i have.  Plus I still have to rebuild and then get a turbo.

With the SR clip i have everything i need for the swap(radiator, IC, AC etc etc) and with install will put me at about 3k total.

I respect anyone who is actually serious about their car and not an idiot who thinks a loud exhaust means more power.  KA, SR whatever....the fact that you researched,spent money and time on your car that is what's important.  If someone turboed their KA hey that's awsome and if they got the swap great...no matter what they both have the potential to be great cars.

So i'll get flamed for this post but i know there are a ton of people in here who are just tired of the debate.

[DSC]

What is this?  
Are you complaining about ka vs sr threads?  If so, welcome to the club...
Are you trying to start an arguement?  
Did you get flamed in another thread and are bitching about it here?  
Just trolling for shits and giggles??
Why is this even in the tech section?

I'm so totally clueless about the point of this thread <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

[rotaryknight]

It's called venting and posting a view.

Looking at some of the post I don't see the reason why this one of no real importance is out of place. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[mrdirty]

Well I for one am still trying to pay off student loans so money IS an issue so.....making the right decision is important. Therefore, I actually enjoy reading the engine debate threads because they usually have a lot of interesting points and most of the time are argued by people a helluva' lot more knowledgable then myself in the subject.

Only a few that care about performance huh? That doesn't make any sense, should we stop arguing engines to talk about tail-lights and paint jobs?

Guess what, engine thread=performance subject.

[Yoshi]

Well, I should point out, that as long as we try to keep flaming to a bare minimum... there should be some valid points raised.

Fact of the matter is, zilvia is growning pretty damn fast, like it or not. &nbsp;Since the search function is currently down, the newer members have no idea what's been discussed, even if it seems pretty obvious to us. &nbsp;Going back a page or 2 is one thing, but there's gotta be like 50 page of discussions in teh zilvia backlog, so these questions, issues, and debate will ALWAYS be a prevailent part of the site, that's just how it is. &nbsp;Iv'e been here for nearly a year and I've seen almost every topic discussed as some point previously... but tehre's always new perpectives to add with new faces and different views.

Granted, this post seems to encourage flaming, which is exactly what we DON'T want. &nbsp;For the most part, this is a great post, listing valid points and perspective reasoning, lets try not to be too critical.

[sykikchimp]

He is trying to calm the waters of a violent ocean. &nbsp;Not likely to happen, but nonetheless a valiant attempt.

I think the reason there becomes a debate about it all the time is because Uninformed members begin spouting off things they "Heard" or "Read" as facts without doing any real research. &nbsp;Many of us take great pride in making sure the Correct information is being distributed to the 240sx community b/c we love our cars, and REALLY hate seeing them turn into peices of crap b/c someone didn't know any better. &nbsp;When we correct that person for their mis-informed statements they feel threatened and begin an even more un-informed defense. &nbsp;Then half the time it blows up from there..

Just Human nature.. &nbsp;not really much you can do about it. &nbsp;And as long as there's something to argue about, we will

[Yoshi]

Depressing, but completely accurate chimp <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[Kreator]

Whenever someone asks a single question that has a word SR and KA in it, someone will come up and say "hey, ka is a truck motor" or something of this sort. Then it grows into a freakin fight over which engine is better and nobody giving shit about the initial question. More to that i'm afraid that this thread will end up like others, so please, someone lock this!

I couldn't give a damn who goes with which engine, but i'm getting tired of this bull myself. My view is simple. If you have >130K buy SR. If you have <80K turbo KA..... those in between are free to choose... but eventially they'll get up to 130K themselves.... there. Im done.

[rotaryknight]

Ah thanks for the few who understood the rant..I agree this will prob turn in to the same KA/SR debate that i was trying to avoid. But I think Skychimp saw my point that may times it is the misinformed who spit out information and just make things worse.

And Yoshi..in a way yes it does encourage flaming but many times you can really figue out who actually knows what by the way they flame or try to defend themselves.

[HippoSleek]

It's JDM-whores vs. those who are too good to be JDM-whores.

And some who just want to go faster

[AceInHole]

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And some who just want to go faster</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol.... that's pretty much it.

[sykikchimp]

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And some who just want to go faster</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol... &nbsp;you damn JDM-Whore!

you forgot &nbsp;vs. &nbsp;those who don't care about performance, but love to argue. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

[240meowth]

horse is dead, quite beating it! ha ha ha <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> i know it has nothing to do w/ anything, but yah... sr vs ka... go to hell man, it's freakin DEAD it's all opinionated

[1997 240SX SE]

someone could always just start a forum entirely dedicated to the SR vs. KA debate &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[zephyr]

i think in every forum there is ONE debate that is just continuous and unsolvable, because either choice is a good one. &nbsp;just like alllll the camaro owners i know argue about whether to turbo or s/c and allll the honda owners probably bicker about whichever bsomethingengine to put in...its just a choice that people want to justify before they go and spend the money (if they have it), even though it wont matter either way. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

[misnomer]

Hey, if the KA vs SR debate ended, what would we have to talk about?

Anyhow, the only people really deserving flames are those who aren't openminded enough to see the potential of both motors.

[drift freaq]

well I guess it just goes on and on kinda like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going and going

speaking of which, &nbsp;hahahaha,

Ok, the thing that kills me is when the guys who can see nothing but SR start dissing the KA . I mean both engines do have their shortcomings in certain areas.
I happen to like SR's . I also happen to like KA's for different
reasons.
I could point out those reasons and then the big debate would rear its head once again.
I know people here in socal who pulled out low mileage KA's 42,000 is one example to put in a SR.
To me that makes no sense at all .
Like Kreator said and I fully agree . You have a low mileage KA Turbo that baby. You have a high mileage KA pull the f%^*%^ out and put in a SR it is that simple.
The funny thing is I was down at a Importers shop in Industry last week and I took him for a ride in my low mileage KA with a lightened steel flywheel(prep for turbo) . He was really surprised at how hard the car pulled and how fast it went for a stock 91 KA . He was impressed and unlike some importers I know did not side with either engine.
In essence its what ever you chose to make your car go faster.
I am going KA+T because I can , and I got my first speeding ticket since 1998 tonite &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> .
Now what that has to do with this thread I am not sure it just kinda came out, damn. oh well i know it would happen sooner or later LA PD must have been bored tonite.
back to my point or actually its been made already and at this point I am starting to ramble .

[DuffMan]

I have to agree with rotaryknight 100%. Both engines are great, and which is better for you is a personal decision based on preference and conveinence. Anyone who goes arround bashing one or the other isn't a true enthusiast.

[ca18guy]

I don't know about anyone else but it seems that the SR/KA debates have been kept to a minimum lately. For that reason I'm closing this thread so it does'nt turn into another big one and everyone gets off the "quit bashing newbies" bandwagon and gets on the "lets stop fighting over KA/SR" bandwagon. Besides we all know the CA is the best.

P.S. wrong forum to post it it.