OT: Porshe SUV??

[sykikchimp]

http://www.motortrend.com/feb01/cayenne/cayenne_f.html

all I can say is WTF?

[thewholefnshow]

lol... you didn't know. THat thing has been talked about for 2 years now. It is just another thing for the super-yuppie... and it wouldn't surprise me if that BMW version ends up being faster... personally the race to the fastest vehicle that has 6 inches ground clearance doesn't seem intelligent to me.. but whatever. Yuppies will be yuppies.

[RoNx777]

I recall once, a while back i saw a Yellow Ferrari SUV on eBay, but havent been able to find info about that thing anywhere else...

[-E-]

Actually the Porsche Cayenne will have to take the backseat to the second fastets suv cuz Cadillac has just came out with the Escalade XS-500 the worlds fastest suv it has just over 500 hp. I drove by the local Cady and they had just gotten the XS-500 its one beautiful truck. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[drift freaq]

ahh but nothing beats a Hummer can drive through walls and over just about anything . &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[JeffNJ]

Nothing beats a Hummer in off-road capability, but if you've looked at what SUV's are selling like hot cakes nowadays, off-road performance means squat. &nbsp;In the areas of speed and comfort - the areas most important to your typical SUV consumer, you couldn't be more wrong. &nbsp;Everything beats the Hummer.

[mrdirty]

That's retarded; like anyone buying this will EVER off-road this thing.

What a waste of money.

[tnord]

am i the only one that thinks this whole project is a bad move for porsche........that is, unless they are struggling financially, which i don't think they are.

[JeffNJ]

You are not alone at all. &nbsp;I think it's an incredibly dumb move, and while chatting with a Porsche salesman, I even got him to admit he agreed. &nbsp;He said he used to enjoy saying, "The only thing we sell is sports cars", and now he can't anymore. &nbsp;It's a terrible move for what it does to their image.

They are supposed to be producing nothing but the greatest handling two-doors money can buy, and now they make this ugly piece of junk. &nbsp;It's just not right.

Even if it's not ugly or not a piece of junk to you, it's still not a "Porsche" as far as I'm concerned just because it wears a Porsche badge. &nbsp;Porsche used to be an ideal, used to have character, used to stand for something. &nbsp;Now they're just following a trend.

I mean, I understand companies are supposed to follow trends, but those are mainstream companies; Porsche isn't a trend-following kind of outfit. &nbsp;At least, it isn't supposed to be. &nbsp;They're supposed to do one thing and do it well and leave it Chevrolet to offer variety.

Porsche, you're supposed to be offering unparalleled individuality and style. &nbsp;I hang my head in shame for you. &nbsp;In shame.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[transient]

I don't think they're as on top of things as they would like to be as far as money goes.

[JeffNJ]

Of course, I'm not saying the thing won't sell. &nbsp;Oh, yuppies and yuppie pupppies (kids who get cars for the 17th birthdays - you know who you are) will gobble the thing up. &nbsp;I'm not saying it's a bad move financially; I'm saying it's a bad image move.

It's like a talented artist spending his time painting the outside of your house. &nbsp;Sure it'll look good when he's done, thus doing everything a well-painted house should do. &nbsp;And, sure it's beneficial financially to the artist. &nbsp;But the point remains that he sacrificed part of the soul of what he does.

That, in a nutshell, is what Porsche did by making an SUV.

[-E-]

Volkswagen is coming out with a suv with the same engine and the same price 65k to over 90k &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[onebadm5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ May 17 2002,12:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">am i the only one that thinks this whole project is a bad move for porsche........that is, unless they are struggling financially, which i don't think they are.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i agree. every Porsche/VW collaboration seemed good on paper, but never really resulted in sales figures, and lacked the original Porsche enthusiasm.

Case in point:

The 914

The 924/928/944 Front Engined Water Cooled GT's

The Cayenne................... (only time will tell its fate)

[onebadm5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (EONE914 @ May 17 2002,08:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually the Porsche Cayenne will have to take the backseat to the second fastets suv cuz Cadillac has just came out with the Escalade XS-500 the worlds fastest suv it has just over 500 hp. I drove by the local Cady and they had just gotten the XS-500 its one beautiful truck. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<a href="http://bbtriflo.com/av/2002Escalade.html" target="_blank">U mean the EXS-525<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?</a>

btw, i dont think horsepower is the main key to determining speed. the porsche will probably be a bit lighter, and will be geared differently. sure the escalade makes more power, but i dont think we can say the war is over yet.

[zephyr]

yes, porsche lost its aesthetic integrity when it announced this...they jumped on the bandwagon a bit late too...I'd definitely take a pathfinder over a cayenne (note how the porsche cayenne and vw colorado both use american names...seeing that no one in their right minds in europe would buy an suv other than a land rover or something)
it really makes me sick to think about the big whigs sitting around a conference table saying "we need to get in on this suv thing"...damn target markets

[ovaltine]

All I have to add to this thread is this *dons a combustable suit of cotton with sock lint and dried twigs* -- http://poseur.4x4.org/
As with all bashing sites, please think before you react. &nbsp;I do agree completely with what the site has to say however. &nbsp;Flame on!

[onebadm5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ovaltine @ May 18 2002,12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All I have to add to this thread is this *dons a combustable suit of cotton with sock lint and dried twigs* -- http://poseur.4x4.org/
As with all bashing sites, please think before you react. I do agree completely with what the site has to say however. Flame on!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
my personal favorite...

http://poseur.4x4.org/BSDirt.jpg

[wherezmytofu]

suv + speed = flip.......so why do u want a fast suv? &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[240meowth]

the porsche SUV has been a long time waiting, the front end is the same as a carrara, they told the public a while ago. &nbsp;it is sad that all car manufacture had to go w/ SUV, even... porsche... but a fast suv isn't very smart IMO, unless porsche made some mad suspenstion/traction system like the MERC

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240meowth @ May 17 2002,10:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the porsche SUV has been a long time waiting, the front end is the same as a carrara, they told the public a while ago. it is sad that all car manufacture had to go w/ SUV, even... porsche... but a fast suv isn't very smart IMO, unless porsche made some mad suspenstion/traction system like the MERC</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
eww front end of a carrera....that shit will look ugly so high up! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[Tuck&Poke]

i think its crap that porsche is making an suv...i cant even pronounce the god damn name! anywho i think i pretty much agree w/ everyone. &nbsp;porshe has broken its prestigious tradition of making exellent sports cars. &nbsp;plus its not a true porsche...the engine is in the front not in the rear like a porsche should be. &nbsp;Honestly it looks good for an suv if not a bit tall. &nbsp;the best looking suv IMHO and fast too..but its fast for an suv and thats whats is always gonna be said about it.."yeh its fast, for an suv". &nbsp;i dont even consider it a porsche, just something vw mandated them to do or else