S13.4 ? , yes I did use the search.. just help me with some ?s.

[TonitoX2]

Well I just bought a coupe 93 SE from my friend and since it's basically engine less right now and trannyless, I've gone on a hunt cleaning the car up and making it a bit sparkly clean.

I been discussing the whole matter of the pop up lights with my friends on how to do the conversion. I am going for Kouki front.Now it's come to my attention that you need a core support. My question is, does it matter which core support of the S14 do I get. Either the Zenki or the Kouki? Would it make a difference?

Lastly, I am not interested in "where" to buy the fenders or the lights.. or the hood. I got that down. I just want to know.. if I get the Core support of the S14 Zenki would be good.. because man.. I know a couple of good Zenki's in junkyard I can take the core support out from.

Also.. the bumper support does it matter also?
I would really appreciate it if someone could be nice enough to help me out with this.

Don't send me to the search button. I already did search.. mind you I guess some of you don't know some forums after a while delete threads to save space. So I did search and all I found were pics, discussions and opinions and people want to kill others for the search button.

[andrewmp6]

id use whatever core support that went with the front end your gonna use

[blackflag_Rms13]

I don't believe it makes a difference, people do Zenki-->Kouki swaps all the time...

[240mph]

Get the kouki since it has a headlight access hole in the core support.
But they are about the same.Get whatever is cheaper man.

[TiNMAN]

^^yea, what he said. ive done this a couple times. anywho....goodluck

[TonitoX2]

Thank you all for the great response. As for the bumper support. Can I use my current one , or do I need the one from an S14 as well?

[trsilvias13]

would this not be s13.5? since (13+14)/2 = 13.5?

i would go with whichever cheaper too

[i8yourfwd]

Hah, I thought .4 and .5 meant 14 and 15, and they just took the last digit to deciede what the number after the decimal was, to figure out the orginal platform then the conversion added.

Using that logic, an S13 with an S15 front would become an S14... hahaha yeah...

[dct223]

would this not be s13.5? since (13+14)/2 = 13.5?

i would go with whichever cheaper too

ok so your saying s13 with s15 front would be s14? (13+15)/2 = 14

:down:

[bik]

U dont need core suport u only need fenders hood bmper and lights, be a little creative and will fit easy

[DJPimpFlex]

yea you just need the fenders, hood, bumper, and lights from my research. I'm in the process of doing that now. Already have everything except for the fenders. My question is does anyone know anyone IN THE USA that sells conversion fenders besides raceonusa? I dont want some crap that doest fit. Bik would know what hes talking about. I think hes got the S13.4 zenki. I'll have mine done within a few weeks and I'll post up pics.

[A Spec Products]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Dan_s13/ps13with14afront.jpg

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/4056/f88c186d2oh.jpg

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/8564/3787rps131019wc.jpg

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/761/s14sil804bv.jpg

first one is nice but thats cause its done up, kitted and paint...and 17 inch equips yum

oh crap just noticed you didnt need pics, meh, spruce up the thread a bit

[i8yourfwd]

That gold fastback just doesn't look right to me..

[DJPimpFlex]

yea this conversion has to be aftermarket to look good. stock bumpers (usdm, or JDM) just dont look right. I have the origin stylish front which I think will work out well.

[cfrost]

looks alrite on the coupe, but on the fastback it makes my eyes hurt :-/

[trsilvias13]

Hah, I thought .4 and .5 meant 14 and 15, and they just took the last digit to deciede what the number after the decimal was, to figure out the orginal platform then the conversion added.

Using that logic, an S13 with an S15 front would become an S14... hahaha yeah...


naw i just dont like those made up terms..
like saying s14a or s14b, why cant people put down 95/96 or 97/98 or zenki or kouki

is it that hard to say s15 front end on a s13 hatch? or s13 coupe

if you put put that logic what do you call a civic with a s15 front end?

seg6.5?

or a r33 front end on a s14? rs14.3?

and if you look at a s13.5? why does 13 goes before the 5? doesnt that say s13 with a s15 rear? would this not be a s15.80?

[nigel1]

you guys with all that s13.3456773895723 nonsense need to chill out and go get your own thread to get locked because the starter of this thread actually had a valid question and well... your guys posts are just so dumb they are mind numbing.

s13 with an s14 kouki front = s13.4

s13 with an s14 zenki front = s13.4

s14 with an s15 front = s14.5

s13 coupe with an s15 front = s13.5

rps13 with an s15 front = s13.5 sileighty

s13 coupe with rps13 front = onevia or in the us its just an 240sx coupe.


and back to the thread starter's question: just get creative with mounting the inner headlight brackets. its really easy once you get into it.

[FaLKoN240]

I want to buy a Zenki front for my car like bik's but I lack the ingenuity.

[jc_rps13]

my friend just recently did it with his zenki s14 front end pieces on his new s13 hatch.
he used the stock (s13) core support and used the headlight brackets from the s14. I'm not too sure about the bumper tho (not the bumper cover, the actual bumper)
honestly, it looks a little funny to me, as the s14 is a little wider, it looks like it has oversized fenders on the front.
I'll try and get some pictures of it up soon.

[bik]

my friend just recently did it with his zenki s14 front end pieces on his new s13 hatch.
he used the stock (s13) core support and used the headlight brackets from the s14. I'm not too sure about the bumper tho (not the bumper cover, the actual bumper)
honestly, it looks a little funny to me, as the s14 is a little wider, it looks like it has oversized fenders on the front.
I'll try and get some pictures of it up soon.

yeah the s14 is like 3/4 or 1 inch wider, nothing then a little pull on the back cant fix, i wide it a little on the back

to put the ligths is easy, the outside bolts on the fender, the inner side will "bolt" in the core suport if u reverse it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/bik/DSC06700.jpg

y have to make a hole on it so u can bolt the head ligth, the interior of the bumper have to be cut too to fit "your car will be ligther" hehe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/bik/DSCN0988.jpg

check out how the back is wider, now i need some spacers for the wheels Y_Y

yeah my interiors was brown "shit", i paint them grey, call me ricer!!! please do it!!! O_O

[woodchuck]

just to add to the pics.


9996

[DJPimpFlex]

damn bik, your cars a inspiration. I've been searching arround for about a month on this conversion and your cars everywhere, all the forums and everything.

You have kouki corners and zenki headlights correct?

Did you cut and weld your fenders, or did you buy some conversion ones? What headlight brackets did you use, silvia or 180sx? Looks like it just bolted straight up.

Did you have to cut a hole in the radiator support to have rear clearence for the headlights?

You said that you didnt use a bumper support at all, so where is the bumper bolted to, just the fenders, or somewhere in the middle, and if so where?

For the hood, did you just modify the stock hinges, or did you buy the S15 ones?

Sorry for all the questions, but like I said, you the only one I know of thats succesfully done it, and I just dont like running in a forest blind folded with kinves straped to my hands. Thanks

[DJPimpFlex]

just to add to the pics.


9996

That ones HAWT +1 for an awsome car!

[jc_rps13]

damn bik, your cars a inspiration. I've been searching arround for about a month on this conversion and your cars everywhere, all the forums and everything.

You have kouki corners and zenki headlights correct?

Did you cut and weld your fenders, or did you buy some conversion ones? What headlight brackets did you use, silvia or 180sx? Looks like it just bolted straight up.

Did you have to cut a hole in the radiator support to have rear clearence for the headlights?

You said that you didnt use a bumper support at all, so where is the bumper bolted to, just the fenders, or somewhere in the middle, and if so where?

For the hood, did you just modify the stock hinges, or did you buy the S15 ones?

Sorry for all the questions, but like I said, you the only one I know of thats succesfully done it, and I just dont like running in a forest blind folded with kinves straped to my hands. Thanks

I dunno what bik used for his, but my friend used the s14 headlight brackets. The fenders he did not modify, but they do stick out quite a bit more in the back than biks car. Someone I'm sure could bend them back a little to make it look better. The hood, also lined up fairly close enough to be installed on the stock hood latches. Just tryin to help out a lil bit :bigok:

[DJPimpFlex]

cool cool, I plan on using just hood pins, so the latch lineing up is irrelevent, as long as it lines up to the car. I would install the hood today buy the fucker sent me the wrong one. Anyone wanna buy a seibon 180sx hood. I'll deliver in the bay area.

[jc_rps13]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/jc_rps13/phils240-2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/jc_rps13/phils240-1.jpg

theres my friends car, doesnt look too bad...
can definetly see were the lines meet

[DJPimpFlex]

yea they both look hawt (zenki and kouki). I already have a silvia front, but I want something a tad more origional. Did your firend use a bumper support?

[jc_rps13]

I'm not really sure as I wasnt there when he did it. He said he just used everything off of the wrecked s14. Ill ask him when I see him again.

[Siizzzoooo]

am I really seeing what I think I'm seeing??!!??

why does it look like that S14 fenders, both zenki and kouki bolt right up to the S13 chassis with VERY little modifications and just about all of it lines up right? like they said, its a little bit wider, but does it really work?

[TokyoNights]

ahh ef that noise pop ups fo lyfe
http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/mikespeed/fc36fd05.jpg

[jrocslider]

i'm doin the zenki front on my coupe next week.... all i need is the hood but other than that i'm good... i'll post pics as soon as i get sum

[TonitoX2]

So I guess fabricrating majority of the stuff would lead to the same result. Nice nice.. then I guess my goal is just to get the headlight brakets and the rest of the mombo jumbo to make the modification. Alrighty thanks guys I really appreciate all the help.

[jc_rps13]

am I really seeing what I think I'm seeing??!!??

why does it look like that S14 fenders, both zenki and kouki bolt right up to the S13 chassis with VERY little modifications and just about all of it lines up right? like they said, its a little bit wider, but does it really work?

yep sure does, my friends no body shop technician, normally his cars look like junk... :keke:

[DJPimpFlex]

does anyone know where to get the S14 brackets? I cant seem to find them. Also are zenki and kouki brackets the same.

[Dopefish]

Holy thread resurrection.

Anyone ever put a S13 Silvia front end on an S14?

~Kris

[ThatGuy]

Yes, search around more. There are pics of a Blue Fasback with a Zenki S14 front end in the old picture thread in FAQ and Archives. The guy is in Mexico I believe. There is also at least one S13 Coupe in the works right now to recieve a Kouki S14 front end with custom aero.

[Dopefish]

Thats this thread, not talking about that. I'm talking about a 95-98 with a Japanese S13 Silvia front-end. I've seen a S14 with the 180sx/US S13 pop-ups but no Silvia front.

~Kris

[ThatGuy]

Yes that's been done as well. Again, it has been covered before.

S13 on S14 DONE
180SX on S15 DONE
S15 on S13 DONE
S15 on S14 DONE
180SX on S13 DONE
180SX on S14 DONE
Skyline Fronts on S Chassis DONE

There is no originality when it comes to swaps. There is only has been done and shoudln't be attempted. Some of the swaps that have been done, never shouldv'e been attempted in the first place.

[Dopefish]

Yes that's been done as well. Again, it has been covered before.

S13 on S14 DONE
180SX on S15 DONE
S15 on S13 DONE
S15 on S14 DONE
180SX on S13 DONE
180SX on S14 DONE
Skyline Fronts on S Chassis DONE

There is no originality when it comes to swaps. There is only has been done and shoudln't be attempted. Some of the swaps that have been done, never shouldv'e been attempted in the first place.

Okay, since you are going to be the 'resident hard ass' about this and say it has been done and is readily available via search... than why not show me how easily it is to find. I tried a few differant searches and only found this thread and a few other rittled with S15 or Skyline swaps, neither of which I am looking for.

I understand there is no originality to the swaps, I dont care, I'm not trying to be inventive, I'm just trying to make myself happy with my car. I will most likely stick to the Zenki or go Kouki in some way, shape or form but I'd like to see what HAS been done so I can see if "Hey, thats cool, I'd like to do that".

~Kris

[s14xman]

I will most likely stick to the Zenki or go Kouki in some way, shape or form but I'd like to see what HAS been done so I can see if "Hey, thats cool, I'd like to do that".

~Kris

well "hey" go back one page on this old ass thread and you will see what has been done.

now you can say "hey what a dumb ass I am, it's right there in front of me"

[drift freaq]

does anyone know where to get the S14 brackets? I cant seem to find them. Also are zenki and kouki brackets the same.
you have to remove them from a S14 core support they are bolted on but you cannot get them seperate from the dealer. I was also thinking of the s14 zenki on the fastback, but right around the time I got to thinking about doing it s15 fronts got cheaper to do.

[specr0]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Dan_s13/ps13with14afront.jpg

^^ wow thats hot fire!

[axiomatik]

just to add to the pics.


9996

This one looks like the new dodge charger

[BOROSUN]

dont forget about this one; jerome's pig513
http://www.option1garage.com.au/images/jerome.jpg?SSImageQuality=Full

[Dopefish]

well "hey" go back one page on this old ass thread and you will see what has been done.

now you can say "hey what a dumb ass I am, it's right there in front of me"

Is there any particular reason that your are an asshole? Serious, Mr.HardAss decided that everything that can be done has been and says its readily available via a search here. You feel that what I asked was already answered in the previous page, it wasnt... hence why I posted WHAT I WANTED TO SEE since obviously it has been done and there is no originality in the 240sx bloodline.

You know, being an elitist prick doesnt make you intelligent, it just makes you a prick.

~Kris

[specr0]

...there is no originality in the 240sx bloodline...

~Kris

I agree with that statement. This is true with most car makes and models. Infact unless you make your own body kits or custom make your own parts and accessories, you are not being original just because all kits, parts, conversions, etc. are made for the masses. That means that the part is readly available to anyone with $$.

[s14xman]

Is there any particular reason that your are an asshole? Serious, Mr.HardAss decided that everything that can be done has been and says its readily available via a search here. You feel that what I asked was already answered in the previous page, it wasnt... hence why I posted WHAT I WANTED TO SEE since obviously it has been done and there is no originality in the 240sx bloodline.

You know, being an elitist prick doesnt make you intelligent, it just makes you a prick.

~Kris
Please type for us exactly what you want to see!! seriously, write down an exact pic you would like to see, and i will find it for you

[Dopefish]

Please type for us exactly what you want to see!! seriously, write down an exact pic you would like to see, and i will find it for you

already did, multiple times, but I suppose it wouldnt be right for the noob of the forum to tell the wise old sage to read the thread before making assumptions.

Holy thread resurrection.

Anyone ever put a S13 Silvia front end on an S14?

~Kris

Thats this thread, not talking about that. I'm talking about a 95-98 with a Japanese S13 Silvia front-end. I've seen a S14 with the 180sx/US S13 pop-ups but no Silvia front.

~Kris

~Kris

[s14xman]

i'll find one!!!

[s14xman]

s14 w/s13 front and s15 rear
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid37/p7ed67f13428e36a45714ab0ad3370de2/fd1adeaf.jpg

[Dopefish]

Not exactly the best picture in the world but kudos, you found an image of an S14 with a S13 Silvia front-end.

Thank you,
~Kris

[s14xman]

no problem, thats all i can really find. I guess i should read more thouroughly(sp) next time

[Dopefish]

I assumed that'd be sort of a corky swap, either way, it looks nice, not really what I envisioned but it does look quite interesting.

Looks like I'm sticking Zenki for now, saw a picture of a very nice Mineral Gray Metallic one today that really caught my eye. I think Kouki is still the winner but I may as well see how happy I can be with Zenki in the mean time. I'll do some free mods such as clearing the lamps and a few other ideas I've had bouncing around to see if it'll make it look better to me, I think the color of my car is playing a big role in the appearance 'issues' I have.

~Kris

[ThatGuy]

Wow, s14xman. Nice find. Did you just conjure that image up all on your own, with a magic wand and crystal ball? I know you didn't find it by searching the forums or the internet. Afterall, you can't find anything that way, right?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[s14xman]

^^ haha, i just search this site called zilvia.net but yea my crystal ball is broke hahaha

[ryangreg]

you guys love this fuggin shit dont you......man, I wish I was an internet raw dog, could you guys show me the way?

I'll start by speaking to the local recruiter first thing tommorow morning. That should get me on my way.

[s14xman]

this was a joke but oh well looks funny..................
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~corrales/carsIM/panda/secret2/IMG_7717.JPG

[Dousan_PG]

fucker stole it from me!!
i scanned that shit up years ago
got a bunch mre pics of it too on my old harddrive

haha
yeah learn to search shit
its not that hard.
everything you want to do has been done before, my little snowflake.

[s14xman]

fucker stole it from me!!
i scanned that shit up years ago
got a bunch mre pics of it too on my old harddrive


I knew you were gunna say that because the thread i got it from, you wanted the credit for posting it on FA haha.

[Yuri]

My roomate's Zenki front with Silvia hood, right before we put in projectors.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/crazylights1.jpg

[ImpactBlue]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Dan_s13/ps13with14afront.jpg


I am becoming obsessed....

Does anyone have any other examples of this?

[Yuri]

I'll have pics up of mine........right around the time it becomes played out.....:loco:

[SoSideways]

So we have Impact Red and Impact Blue both interested in the same things....

Where's Impact Green or Impact Yellow? hahaha

BTW I love your car Impact Red!

[EroGori]

Doesn't anyone else think an S13 fastback w/ a zenki s14 front end looks like a 1st gen Mitsubitchi Eclipse???

[ThatGuy]

^No
http://www.autominsk.by/news/UserFiles/Image/ARTICLES/2005-09-21/2/p-2.jpg

[Dopefish]

Doesn't anyone else think an S13 fastback w/ a zenki s14 front end looks like a 1st gen Mitsubitchi Eclipse???

NOT AT ALL! Although I will agree this car from the first page of the Picture Thread does:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=707133&postcount=10

~Kris

[ImpactBlue]

So we have Impact Red and Impact Blue both interested in the same things....

Where's Impact Green or Impact Yellow? hahaha

BTW I love your car Impact Red!

Hey, I was a member a whole month before ImpactRed...heh. j/k

(Yeah, Red, your car is sexy.)

What have people been doing about the tops of the s14 fenders, as they flare up a bit.? are we just cutting the mating s13 fenders and adding the fronts of the s14? I notice a few differences in peoples' buildups.

[SoSideways]

Well, as much as I'd hate to say it, Raceonusa does sell S13 to kouki S14 conversion fenders.

You could either do that, or cut your S13 and S14 fenders in half, and have it welded up and shaped.

[ImpactBlue]

Seriously? wow.

I guess that's smart of them.

[Yuri]

Don't do it, it looks lame... lol
here's mine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/conv34.jpg

And how it will look when done. (before the vented hood and gt wing anyway)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/2tonewheels.jpg

found another pic of the purple one. not as hot as previously thought. look how boxy it is, and how the fenders look bloated.
The other pic of it looks better somehow.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/yoda200412222034journalfile2.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Uh-oh, the cat's out of the bag now. You better hurry up and get that thing painted Impact!!!

[Yuri]

Going into paint in two days.
I figured I'd post it publicly now before any other half completed ones show up, lol.

[DJPimpFlex]

i'm just waiting on my fuckin fenders..........3 months now....If I dont get some news tomorrow, I'm going to just make my own.

[i am tne]

ok so your saying s13 with s15 front would be s14? (13+15)/2 = 14

:down:


hahahaha this is quite hilarious. no no not quite just makes me more confused...:bash:

[trsilvias13]

dude it all a joke.. it just wierd when people say s13.5, s14.5 or whatever. That term came from superstreet a few years ago. Also s14mc or s14a or s14b. If you think about it the zenki s14 came first and that should be s14 and the kouki s14 came later should that be s14.5 because that the only model between the 1st gen s14 and the s15.

Also s14mc or s14a or s14b. but then not everyone one knows what a/b mean. Some think s14a like s14 the first, then follow by s14b because a comes before b. But there are other that say a/b means after/before. So when someone say s14a, like 1/2 thinks it the 95/96 240sx and then other 1/2 thinks it the 97/98 240sx.


But whatever call it whatever you want.

[alexchanman]

i think that purple one is pretty godly. its a very clean job.

although these s13 coupes with the s14 fronts looks like the hood and fenders go way toooo far back and kinda ruins the lines of the car. is there anyway to trim the hood and fenders back a little??

[i am tne]

dude it all a joke.. it just wierd when people say s13.5, s14.5 or whatever. That term came from superstreet a few years ago. Also s14mc or s14a or s14b. If you think about it the zenki s14 came first and that should be s14 and the kouki s14 came later should that be s14.5 because that the only model between the 1st gen s14 and the s15.

Also s14mc or s14a or s14b. but then not everyone one knows what a/b mean. Some think s14a like s14 the first, then follow by s14b because a comes before b. But there are other that say a/b means after/before. So when someone say s14a, like 1/2 thinks it the 95/96 240sx and then other 1/2 thinks it the 97/98 240sx.


But whatever call it whatever you want.

well thanks for trying to explain it. it looks as if this will always be misinterpreted and people will forever be confused...:fruit:

[timlush]

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/4056/f88c186d2oh.jpg

that passenger headlight/corner light appear to fit great!

[HyperTek]

dam bastard child cars... u guys got it all wrong lol jk

http://img173.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/0/2/9/1/macchokun2001-img600x415-11399035661-421205-2_1.jpg

[axiomatik]

the problem with all these bastard cars is that the line of the top of the fender doesn't match the line of the bottom of the window well. on the s14 w/ popus, the hood seems to slope too much for the rest of the body, and vice versa for the other way around

[alexchanman]

im digging the white s15 with the 180sx front. very nice with the type x bumper.

[SilviaDriver]

found another pic of the purple one. not as hot as previously thought. look how boxy it is, and how the fenders look bloated.
The other pic of it looks better somehow.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/yoda200412222034journalfile2.jpg

looks "bloated" mayb becuz hez running BN wide fenders i believe?

[FRpilot]

im digging the white s15 with the 180sx front. very nice with the type x bumper.

its actually a white s14.

[Prok0]

http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/163/images/1.jpg
http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/163/images/a.jpg
http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/163/images/g.jpg

http://www.tunerzine.com/articles.php?id=163

S13.4 Hotness.

[alexchanman]

its actually a white s14.


i stand corrected........ looks real nice regardless. :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou: :goyou:

[FaLKoN240]

http://www.tunerzine.com/articles.php?id=163

S13.4 Hotness.

Why the hell is it SOOO HIGH in the air?!

[D1champ]

Cuz it isin't slammed to the ground.

[sideview_180sx]

I was waiting for someone to post up the enjuku car. that thing is over-built on so many levels. Not too mention the fact Matt needs TEs on it. Only bastard cars were the ones held with bondo and glue. Can't wait to see this trend emerge, and fall on its fucking head from being played out.

[Yuri]

Here's mine, now that it's relatively complete:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/103_2416.jpg

[SlowCoupe]

^^ that don;t look bad at all

[DJPimpFlex]

^except for those turn signals...loljk.

[Yuri]

^except for those turn signals...loljk.
+1 haha.
messagelengthisretardedass14headlightsonacivic.

[ranger2339]

Thread resurect how do i spell that, i dont know!!! ha..

Anywhooooo whos got there conversions done lets see it, only yuri and a couple others but who on this board has is completed?

Ax

[Projectenzo]

OH no don't use the zenki supports for your kouki, it won't work. the supports are diff. Use the kouki and you'll be made. Oh and yes you do need the support for the bumper and fenders for the kouki front end

[chmercer]

ugh, bump from the grave

[blackflag_Rms13]

123... Dead!

[ballr858]

crazy old thread, but looking at some of the pics again makes me wanna sell my car and get a coupe so i can do a s14 kouki front.

[S13SilviaGirl]

I am for bumping, IF it is pertinant to the thread... e.g. expanding on it, or asking a relative question. This resurrection is pointless....and Ranger, your avatar was deleted, this is your final warning about images. You have had your last sig removed and your avatar now. Next time you post one that is in violation of zilvia.net's rules you will be banned for minimum of 3 months. Oh, and reffer to women as "bitches" or "campus sluts" in your profile or anywhere on here again and you will be permanently banned. So change it before I ban you.

[g6civcx]

I'll add something relevant to this thread.

S13 owners with messed up front ends have several options:

a) stick with S13 popups
b) get S13 Silvia fixed headlamps
c) get S14 zenki/kouki front
d) get S15 front
e) get some other kind, like an old 240Z or something

Out of all of these, only a, c, and e are truly US-DOT legal. It's true that the S13 triple projectors can be adjusted to German spec-E, and it will perform the same as a US-spec unit, but the fact remains that the lenses don't have the USDOT stamping, which means the lights are illegal.

The problem with a is that popups are getting harder to find in good shape. You can't get them new from the manufacturer so it's even harder. The good thing is they do cost less and are easy to swap in with no modifications.

The problem with b is that they're illegal, and they cost a lot since everybody wants them. Plus overseas shipping adds up. The good thing is they do weigh a lot less than a and are generally easier to work with (Silvia lights take up less space than popups).

The problem with c is that you have to find fenders and redo the core support. Hence, the high cost. The good thing about c is that it's USDOT legal, and you can still get new parts from the dealer, for now.

The problem with d is that it has all the problems of a, b, and c. I guess the good thing is that it does look more modern? I'm not about looks though, just legal compliance and functionality.

The problem with e is the same as d, although if you're slick you can get headlights that are USDOT-legal.


For me, the logical choice would be c with the kouki 97-98 front. The only complication would be fitment with the fenders, hood, and core support. The rest is no big deal. You can redo the wiring relatively easily.

So for all those who think it looks ugly, please reconsider with regards to how legal your car is. Legally, if somebody doesn't like you, they can report you and you have to deal with a reference ticket for illegal lights, which means you may get your car impounded. Also, since states do not set the requirements and the USDOT does, you are in violation of federal law, which carries stiffer penalty for non-compliance. Nobody may ever find out, but if your nosey neighbor who knows a little bit about the law and doesn't like your horsing around at 3am, you may just get a yellow slip on your front door and find your parking space empty.

Think about that.

[mistaanime]

just do a s15 coversion..you can even find it realtively cheap here...i think it looks better..but..its your car..you do whatever you want with it..

[g6civcx]

its your car..you do whatever you want with it..

You can thank the government for all the laws we have.

[LB.Motoring]

here at the shop is the zenkis13.4 I did back in the day in about an hour..

just a track car its good for what it is..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/Drift3rx240sx/Limit%20Break/LimitBreakTeamPic20.jpg

[Yuri]

S13.4 can still use the S13 core support, it just needs clearance cut for the S14 headlights.

[jdizzy204]

does anyone have close up of where oem s14 fenders line up with the s13 doorline?

[surge s14]

yeah the s14 is like 3/4 or 1 inch wider, nothing then a little pull on the back cant fix, i wide it a little on the back

to put the ligths is easy, the outside bolts on the fender, the inner side will "bolt" in the core suport if u reverse it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/bik/DSC06700.jpg

y have to make a hole on it so u can bolt the head ligth, the interior of the bumper have to be cut too to fit "your car will be ligther" hehe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/bik/DSCN0988.jpg

check out how the back is wider, now i need some spacers for the wheels Y_Y

yeah my interiors was brown "shit", i paint them grey, call me ricer!!! please do it!!! O_O

dude im in love with your car !!:drool:

[bik]

hahah ty ty ^_^

i am in process of selling the front end $600 dollars and have to give me your pop up front end O_o, i am saving for a sr20 ^_^

[BoostedCoupe]

old therad but lots of hot cars DONE i have found my front end. looking to buy the ait kit with everything i need they look so great on coupes i love it.

[ranger240]

someone make a s12 200sx fronted s14... thatd be about the most ugly combo out there...

anyone got any inspirational pics of a s14.2 or even better a s12.4 or s12.5

come on lets not forget our roots

[BoostedCoupe]

hey yuri i see that ur car is on all the aitracing conversion pics. how are ur fenders? and they bigger than stock? because i dont really wanna do the back fenders as well and the front conversion.by the way i love the car.

[!nSaNe Dr!fTeR]

i did my searching and still have some questions about it

so it is possible to use the S13 core support with some customization and using the s14 headlight brackets. Where can i purchase the headlight brackets because i cant find anywhere that sells it. And also, do i need to purchase a s14 bumper support or can i still use my s13 core support?

[Matej]

does anyone know where to get the S14 brackets? I cant seem to find them. Also are zenki and kouki brackets the same.
The conversion fenders come with the brackets.

[klohiq]

I like the looks of the s14.3 ....or whatever you want to call it...I think it looks much better than an s13.4/13.5...

I like hatchbacks more than coupes though so the only reason to do it would be to have a newer car, not enough reason for me...I'll stick to buying an s13 hatch and worry about suspension rather than front end swaps...though I do have a few ideas for DIY front end mods...something similar to the RX7 where the headlights can be turned on with the pop-ups down and there is a lense that allows them to shine through.

[!nSaNe Dr!fTeR]

free bump need help das y

[jaboyak]

I thought the Zenki swap would be ugly, but I actually think that I might do it...wow.

[!Zar!]

I thought the Zenki swap would be ugly, but I actually think that I might do it...wow.

So you decided to revive this thread and tell us that?

[jdm-drift]

so can anyone tell me how to make the zenki s14 front fit an s13, ive seen alot of pics but no real explanation. how do i mold the fenders together etc...
ive been trying to fit this front end even half assed and still havent gotten anywhere.

[DaimyoBoutique]

nevermind found it

[LB.Motoring]

so can anyone tell me how to make the zenki s14 front fit an s13, ive seen alot of pics but no real explanation. how do i mold the fenders together etc...
ive been trying to fit this front end even half assed and still havent gotten anywhere.



Try putting your s13 front end on your s13 if you suck so much.

[FaLKoN240]

comon guys. need help anyone have pics of there hood hinges? seems like if my fenders are on correctly the hinges are to far over.

any hel appreciated

I think if you actually LOOKED through the thread, someone suggested using S14 hood hinges.

[DaimyoBoutique]

thanks found it

[Antihero983]

one more revival....

how different is the wiring for the head lights? is it plug and play?

and im gonna go ahead and assume after reading all this that stock s14 fenders will bolt right up.