What do you guys think of Dodge stealths

[keepitmovin]

Topic says it all. Speed price anything that comes to your mind when i say Dodge Stealth. Thanks

[adey]

ugly, slow, american car (read: I wouldn't buy it), ugly, slow, slow, american car, slow, front wheel drive, wants desperately to be a Mitsu GTO (3000GT), slow, ugly, american car.... errrr... that's about it.

[Firelance]

If you like the 3000gt I don't see why you might not like the dodge stealth since they are practically the same.  The r/t turbo is the 3000gt vr-4 equivalent and has 300 hp with awd, pretty spiffy, it is heavy though.  The 3000gt is supposed to be one of the best touring cars if that is what your looking for. They supposedly have weak trannies (or was it gearboxes?) but the engines are reliable.

[basemies]

it is the same thing.  i think they're damn heavy, and i also think i'd never buy one.

[-E-]

they are pretty nice but the transmission and drivetrain is weak I would not buy them and this is coming from a mitsubshi owner

[Thurazor]

Dodge Stealths are sweet. IMO (yes I own a Stealth so I am a bit biased) the Stealth and 3000GT are in the top 5 best looking cars on the street, stock anyway. The aftermarket for our cars are just starting to open up and we're getting some 10 second cars, and a potential 9 second once StreetKing gets his car finished. Generally speaking, the FWD Stealths weigh roughly 3200 stock and have 222hp, except for the base model which has 166 I believe. The twin turbo Stealths weigh close to 3800, but also have AWD and AWS. The common problems that I can think of off the top of my head are lifter tick and breaking the transfer case - this is only a common problem for the RT/TT models who do 5k clutch drops in a launch frequently.

And to Adey, who said it's an ugly, slow, American car - the Stealth is damn good looking, 3 out of 4 models are faster than your 240 stock, and it's made my Mitsubishi.

If you want more information on the Stealth or 3000GT, go to http://www.3si.org and we can give you more detailed and better answers.

[Nismos14]

whoops double post

[Nismos14]

IF they were rear wheel drive AND they dropped more hp into them it'd be a different story but i dont like them too much however i wouldnt mind having a 92 3000gt vr-4 i think those look badass <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[samiam]

One of my buds here in Tx. has a older Se-r w/ a sr20det and also a Dodge Stealth r/t turboed of course and awd.....both cars are touching around mid to low 12's in the 1/4. Pretty impressive. But, I'll still stay w/ my little 240's.

[JEdubz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ May 16 2002,02:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ugly, slow, american car (read: I wouldn't buy it), ugly, slow, slow, american car, slow, front wheel drive, wants desperately to be a Mitsu GTO (3000GT), slow, ugly, american car.... errrr... that's about it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Not to start an Imports vs. Domestics flame war...but you make it sound like American cars are a bad thing. Neons are a bad thing. That doesn't make everything else bad. I still personally like imports more but tell me what you think about this comparison....The Japanese sports cars next year 350z, s2k, NSX etc. etc. The top HP is supposed to be the NSX at 290... And how much does an NSX run you new? High $80,000 (US) Next year the Ford Mustang Cobra SVT is going to have 420 hp... And the price range is roughly $35,000 (US)... And I certainly don't know anyone that would complain about the looks of the new mustangs... So to say that a car is American automatically means it's a bad thing is quite stupid.

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Thurazor @ May 16 2002,08:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dodge Stealths are sweet. IMO (yes I own a Stealth so I am a bit biased) the Stealth and 3000GT are in the top 5 best looking cars on the street, stock anyway. The aftermarket for our cars are just starting to open up and we're getting some 10 second cars, and a potential 9 second once StreetKing gets his car finished. Generally speaking, the FWD Stealths weigh roughly 3200 stock and have 222hp, except for the base model which has 166 I believe. The twin turbo Stealths weigh close to 3800, but also have AWD and AWS. The common problems that I can think of off the top of my head are lifter tick and breaking the transfer case - this is only a common problem for the RT/TT models who do 5k clutch drops in a launch frequently.

And to Adey, who said it's an ugly, slow, American car - the Stealth is damn good looking, 3 out of 4 models are faster than your 240 stock, and it's made my Mitsubishi.

If you want more information on the Stealth or 3000GT, go to http://www.3si.org and we can give you more detailed and better answers.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok 3000 gt is a nice looking car. stealth is an ugly mofo. Americans still have no idea about proportions and how to make a car beautiful. They might be the same power wise, but stealth looses the "looks" parameter.... overall, id get a 300zx. much nicer looking.

And finally, i think it's a "chat about 240sx board"..... (at least post OT:... next time)

[tnord]

the 3kgt and stealth might as well be american cars, except for the whole turbo thing they fit the bill quite nicely. big, heavy, go fast in a straight line, can't corner. am i talking about a camaro or a 3kgt, doesn't make any difference. &nbsp;call me an idiot if you like, but i think the stealth looks about as good as rosie odonnel, both of which i'd like to take a big wet diahrrea dump on ala geeaj. i wouldn't mind driving cross country in a VR4 though. i doubt they're the cheapest things to repair either.

and thurazor, if you think a NA stealth will take me at the track, bring it. i've smoked em before and i'll gladly do it again.

[West]

Sorry Thurazor, but they suck IMO. FWD, Slow, Weak Drivetrain. The VR4 Mitsu is alright, but I would never buy one.

Get a 300ZX NA or TT before you ever consider a POS Stealth or 3000GT.

[MikeFD3S]

They're too big and heavy for my tastes. &nbsp;the AWD TT models are quick, but just in straight line...these cars can't handle turns worth a damn. &nbsp;I dont think they've ever even participated in JGTC for that reason

When compared with the upper echelon of Japanese sports cars (RX-7, Supra, 300ZX, Skyline) &nbsp;the VR4/RT's rank last when it comes to straight line speed, turnability, and reliability. &nbsp;As far as hp potential goes, they still have a ways to go before they catch up to the other DSMs (AWD Eclipses, Starions) &nbsp;

Im more of a turn enthusiast, so i prefer a lightweight 50/50 balanced car...so my opinion is a little biased

[transient]

Where are you getting all of your info? Last thing I heard, stealths are actually pretty close to a 50/50 ratio, and stock vs stock, they will rape a 240sx on the skidpad. Oh, and just because you beat one car on a track doesn't mean shit. Think of the possible differences in driver ability.

A 3SX isn't my preferred style of car, because they are heavy, and a bit big... but I certainly see them as a formidable adversary.

[zephyr]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JEdubz @ May 15 2002,10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And I certainly don't know anyone that would complain about the looks of the new mustangs...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i HATE the new mustangs...they be damn ugly
and non functional
i loooove the base model with the "vents" on the hood and the rear fenders that are filled in...i dont even know if they're functional on gt's? i hope so...
just an opinion...dont worry
i LOVE 1995 and earlier (pre-fatass model) corvettes and i like camaros a lot...so its not just a "i only like imports" thing &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[tnord]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (transient @ May 17 2002,1:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where are you getting all of your info? Last thing I heard, stealths are actually pretty close to a 50/50 ratio, and stock vs stock, they will rape a 240sx on the skidpad. Oh, and just because you beat one car on a track doesn't mean shit. Think of the possible differences in driver ability.

A 3SX isn't my preferred style of car, because they are heavy, and a bit big... but I certainly see them as a formidable adversary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
1) skidpad isn't the end all measure of handling capabilities as you already know
2)different drivers, i know, but find me a better place to compare the cars. and hey, it was my FIRST time, they couldn't have been much worse than me.
3) where are you getting your info? i never claimed a horrible weight distribution, but still, link me to proof and i'll gladly accept it. i can believe they're fairly close to 50/50 with the front axle as far forward as it is.

[JeffNJ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JEdubz @ May 15 2002,10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...Not to start an Imports vs. Domestics flame war...but...I certainly don't know anyone that would complain about the looks of the new Mustangs...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I, for one, would like to say that I think they're horribly disgusting looking. &nbsp;The ones through the mid-90's were beautiful - especially the convertibles - but the new ones are absolutely disgusting. &nbsp;So, not to start an argument (looks are purely about personal taste anyway), but you said you didn't know anyone who would complain presumably because you didn't at the time, and now you do. &nbsp;Me.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[transient]

Skidpad may not be a perfect test of handling capabilities, but it's certainly not something you should overlook either. As far as weight distrobution, I got that information from Thurazor who got it from 3SI, you'll have to talk to him more about that.

[Tuck&Poke]

3000GT and Stealths are bad ass cars, all of em are relativley fast especially the TT models. &nbsp;the 94+( or 95 i dun remember) have 320hp and as said be4 awd and aws. &nbsp;expect to pay around 7-10K for a non turbo and 13-25K for a tt depending on year. &nbsp;IIRC they were sold till 98-99. &nbsp;nice lookin cars too. &nbsp;the stealth is generally cheaper than the mitsu cause its a dodge and people are stupid so if i had to choose between the two id get the stealth.

[TwinTurbo]

Well im just partial to any car that is making an effort to look good and run good. I would have to say the stealth is up there on my list. I have a friend whom is in the low 10's in his AWD eclips and he actualy runs a rear out of a 3000GT. He has no problems with it. Ive seen many stealths and 3000's running great times no prob. Shit they come TT. The toyota supra doesnt way much less than 3000lbs and look at it. I dont see any japanees cars winning any GT or GTS searies chanpionships. It looks like the American cars have that great cornering platform thing down. They just come with customer friendly lazzy ride suspentions stock. I would put my 89Dodge Datona on the line agains just about any jap car out there. &nbsp;The only cars ive ever lost to on the street were mustang's, camaro's, 1 integra, 1 RX7, and my friend criss's Porchea. If i had to corner at high speeds count me out. Thats what the 240 and bike are for. Granted nobody around hear knows how to build an import.

[KiDyNomiTe]

about the mustang thing I prefer the previous gen mustang body than the new ones. I kinda like the older ones they looked nice. I Like corvettes they look nice, (the newest body). I dislik camarao's.

About the 3000GT and Stelath. I used to like the 3000GT until I heard a souped up one, it sounds like shit. It sounds like American cars. I don't like that funny rumble that they have. But if you got sum big turbos thatll cover up that sound. I always hated stealths I dislike the look, same with talons. Only thing is that the talons are faster (atleast thats whta I heard). The stealth and 3000GT I don't really know what to classify them under. 3000GT has american qualities while it shares a jap name, but the VR-4 is still nice.

[Tuck&Poke]

that rumble is one of the best sounds a car exhaust can make, music to my ears at least, and i dont think sound would be something that would deter me from owning a car. &nbsp;theres also no way an eclipse/talon can be faster than the 3000gt. &nbsp;they have 100less hp and they weigh only a couple hundred pounds less. &nbsp;also the 3000gt was developed my mitsu, not dodge. &nbsp;i agree on buying a supra or a 300zx but finding a supra tt....good luck at the same price as the 3Kgt, as for a 300, well thats not too hard to find and theyre decently priced too. &nbsp;3Kgt are not excellent handlers but in no way are they sloppy and they arent slow at all either, just a tick slower than a supra. &nbsp;they also make great power when modded and yes the weight distribution is nearly 50/50

[CrazyGoofyWeirdGuy]

Being on boards for a while, I have seen this all too much. &nbsp;Soon enough some young buck will hop on here and start the swearing fest about how this is better then that, and how you can **** off and blah blah blah. Personal Opinion: I like cars. I dont like Japanese, American, Italian, or UK cars. I JUST - LIKE - CARS! &nbsp;I see this as much the same thing as racism. &nbsp;Classifying a car due to its origin is just like hating someone because they are canadian, british, african or mexican. &nbsp;My rule of foot. &nbsp;If you like a car, and it makes you feel all warm inside, does it matter where it comes from? &nbsp;That is the true rice way. If your fear of being "ribbed" for owning an American car disuades you from buying something you really like, you might as well save some money and buy a civc with an industrial grey (unpainted) bodykit with too much bondo. The old American cars reliability reputation was formed back in the 60's and 70's when cars were being mass produced to head up the HP war. &nbsp;Certain cars just wouldnt make it, and you could readily open a mechanic's shop in your garage. &nbsp;Get over this whole american vs. import business. &nbsp;Viper anyone? 500hp and 500 torque? That more than enough for me. &nbsp;Too much money? How about the new 'stang like it was said earlier? &nbsp;Dont like how it looks? Then find something you do. &nbsp;As for me I am going to go drive me slow ass Camry, until my Baretta is fixxed..... when the time comes its off to my 97 240. Why the 240? &nbsp;Not because its an import, but because I share a respect and admirition for that car, just as I do for cars from any country, because it has the capabilities to go damn fast, and because I like how it looks.

IMHO, dont ask "What do you think about..." &nbsp;Ask "What do you know about..." &nbsp;Get information, not opinions. &nbsp;As great grand daddy once said, Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one, and they all stink.

[CrazyGoofyWeirdGuy]

OT: Primus rocks!

[Thurazor]

minime686, that was spoken just like a pro &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer_cars/assets/images/dr1-terry4.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pf8ae39e0441d7fc74a9b751e57066234/fdc670a3.jpg

If you think those are ugly, you have issues.

[wherezmytofu]

well it depends if it's vr4 or not....cuz no vr4 = pos......................JFWY Thurazor <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Thurazor @ May 25 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">minime686, that was spoken just like a pro <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer_cars/assets/images/dr1-terry4.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/pf8ae39e0441d7fc74a9b751e57066234/fdc670a3.jpg

If you think those are ugly, you have issues.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I stand correctd. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

And I didnt meen that talons are faster than 3000gts i meant faster than eclipses

[S13FREEAAK]

they look good in those pictures but I still don't like them because it would take more money than alot of people have to make them look good like that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>