LOSTPROJECTS.COM

[csingham]

Following a previous thread here and also being a possible buyer from this person/shop i want to know whats going on. I e-mailed and have been in contact w/ 2 people and they STILL have not recived
a. a reply to e-mails
b. tracking numbers
c. their money back
d. any GOOD reason to why they are waiting.

it's past may 10th, i would like to know where peoples orders are standing especially with people that have orders going beyond 3 months. 90 Days is considered fraud.

Anyone Else hear back from this guy. Please don't defend him if your his best friend because you would be pissed too if he owed you a front clip/motor and/or money passing 2000 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[240meowth]

i don't know, i'm tryi'n to get ahold of him for a CF hood, and he hasn't responded my messeges neither, but i guess u r in more of a hurry 'cause you paid him money... &nbsp;and as for me, i'm just tryi'n to order a cf hood from him

[Racer X]

hmm this doesnt look good at all <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> i so wanted to believe that the tein prices were true i was also going to buy a cf hood i emailed the guy no response bout three days ago. but if the guy were fake you would think he would want to take my money <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> i dont get it i hope he is just too damn busy to answer and ups screwed your shipping up cause i really want a cf hood for $410 damn it, i knew i was too good to be true

[TheTicTac]

I'm not trying to defend him or anything but I did send him a check for my order but he hasn't cashed it yet so I'm still hoping for the better. I do however find it odd that he would want to move while he was trying to get a bunch of Group Buys going. Maybe he had no choice in the moving thing, but the thing is that I still hope everything will work out in the end

[Dousan_PG]

he should be just about up and running
my credit card was posted to on may 8th..
be shoul be here monday and clear this all up.
im in the same boat here..may 10th!!!
im going on vacation next weekedn, i WANTED the stuff in the weekend, but that obviously wont happen. have to cancel some plans i had.

aaron

[nissmo240sx]

I can see yur all pissed. When i flamed up on the forum the first time about Lost Projects, everyone nailed on me. at least i have some people on the same level as me now. But, i put my order in mid March; Its may 12th now. hmm. i should have received my money back long ago. listening to all you, iz making me think.

Cross fingers- hopefully Ian will come through tomorrow... WOn't you Ian??

[luey02]

Ian, you're not making yourself look good... I suggest you hold off on the move, anyway you can, and send all the orders out TODAY.. &nbsp;I'm not try'n to tell you how to run a business but customers come first.. &nbsp;just looking out man

people, I'd put my savings on it that Ian is legit..just wait a little longer.. &nbsp;he better be cuz I know where he lives..

[Dousan_PG]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

i just spoke with Ian, and he is having it sent out tomorrow. i should get it by tuesday next week at the LATEST. he just finished moving and getting organized. he might post some info today as an update.

Ian, i appreciate your phone call and relieving my nerves. I am waiting for that tracking number (tomorrow i would assume)and our deal will be closed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Thanks!
Aaron

[gschroeder78]

Good to hear Dousan

I am being patient because I also believe Ian is legit and I realize that I am getting a great deal for a front conversion. When it all works out, it will still have been worth it.

[nissmo240sx]

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Rockout
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Joined: Nov. 2001 &nbsp;Posted: May 13 2002,01:12
"you think that's bad..my order went in on feb 16th. &nbsp; i've been trying to get my money back for well over a month."
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This guy sent me this message on the forum messenger. hey rockout- , say something on this forum if you'd like. good luck.

[Chokudori]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dousan36 @ May 13 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

i just spoke with Ian, and he is having it sent out tomorrow. i should get it by tuesday next week at the LATEST. he just finished moving and getting organized. he might post some info today as an update.

Ian, i appreciate your phone call and relieving my nerves. I am waiting for that tracking number (tomorrow i would assume)and our deal will be closed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Thanks!
Aaron</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Didn't you say that Ian told you it was sent like last week? Did he lie to you about that?

[Dousan_PG]

he never said it was sent, and i found it wasnt. it was suggested and sounded it was, but ended up not being sent.

they only part that was lied about was recieving it on the 10th.

now he said it WILL be sent tomorrow. so i would expect a tracking number no later then wednesday.

aaron

[rockout]

I purchased a front clip back in feb. when Ian claimed his distributor was in Sacramento. I purchased it with intent of picking it up in person so i could save on shipping. Then he said they had none in stock..so i waited. Then he started going through a distributor in so. california and there's no way i could have made it that far to pick it up, which i told him. He then said that i could still get one in Sacramento...but never gave me any info on it. I then requested my money to be given back to me and appologized for placing the order in the first place if i couldn't wait. Well...i have yet to receive a tracking number or any HARD proof that i am getting my money back. It's been quite some time since i placed my order and quite a while that i've been trying to get my money back.

cliffsnotes: i'm not trying to bash you or tarnish your name. your prices are amazing and it seems like you're attempting to do tons of business so i doubt you're out there ripping people off. i realize the move is making things slow too, but it's been a long time.

[240sxygrl]

Hey guys,
I propose that the final date for the discount should be pushed back. I've been waiting for over a week for a reply from Ian so I can go get a money order, and have heard nothing. If this turns out to be legit and I don't find out until the 19th or so, I will be extremely pissed. I don't wanna miss out on getting my teins!!!!!

[TheTicTac]

Well he tried to call me today around 2pm but I was at work, but I think he's still trying to get things going. I couldn't call him back though, I had work till 9pm, but I hope I can get in touch with him tomorrow. Other than that he's still on my good side. I think he should push back that date since he was gone for a bit.


Andrew

[Dousan_PG]

more good news..

I spoke with Ian again, he got my address mail-to change and it is being shipped out today. He said he'd get me the tracking number today or tomorrow.

Seems everything is working out. I'll let everyone know once i get my tracking number and everything should be cool then. I can track it while on vacation.

Im glad its working out, i guess i would have had it sooner if he hadn't moved. Right now, i wouldnt mind ordering from another group buy of his. If this goes well, i wouldnt mind trying again, build up some more trust.

Anyway, so far so good, today is turning out better then i thought.

---Aaron

[sil80]

Does anyone know if Ian has net access? That might be why he has not replied to emails or update this thread. Ya.... that is what I will think so I can feel better about my order... &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

[sil80]

Well called Ian and he said my parts also shipped out today. Said they where coming from texas and since im in Kansas City, Mo I should have them this week. Still would like a tracking number.... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[TheTicTac]

Hey does anyone know Ians Phone number? The Number he left on my answering machine isn't in service? I know he tried a couple of times to get a hold of me, so I wonder if he has everything? If you have the number can you email it to me

[email protected]

Thanks

Andrew

[nissmo240sx]

hmm, something very fishy is going on here. &nbsp; HEY aaron tell me if u got a tracking number tomorrow. &nbsp; &nbsp;I won't be surprised if u don't. &nbsp;lemme know. &nbsp; if he does, ask him why he is ignoring some of us? &nbsp; &nbsp;

L8

[Dousan_PG]

will do. i will see what it is. i pm'ed you too nissmo240sx

aaron

[Racer X]

anyone know ians last name i just bought a turbo from a guy named ian i just want to see if its the same guy not to common of a name you know

[nissmo240sx]

Ian's last name is Hannigan. &nbsp;Ian Hannigan

Thanks Aaron. &nbsp;unfortunately doesn't work for me. &nbsp;won't pick up phone, has me on caller ID, will not pick up. &nbsp; &nbsp;oh well. &nbsp;
did u get tracking number &nbsp;by chance? &nbsp;i really hope u do. &nbsp;because that is something that is required.
If you dont have it today, &nbsp;i honestly think this whole deal is a scam. &nbsp;the people on the other forum he used to use has some ...... &nbsp;Blah. &nbsp;

Ian get on here soon if your really legit. &nbsp;So far, everything seems like a game.

[Dousan_PG]

its not a scam, at least the tien buy isnt. its getting shpped this week, i spoke with the shpping company!! they have the money, and shipping out this week

i'm out of the country for the next 3 weeks

he doenst answer my call too, dont woryr. i call too much, haha.always leave amessage though, and if you have a mobile phone, make sure you use it for your records in case you need to pursue in court

i'll try to keep up on my emails, and i'll get a calling card too.

best of luck nissmo240sx. keep at it. keep posting on the weboard and doing as much as you can, sorry i cant help more

aaron

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nissmo240sx @ May 16 2002,01:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ian's last name is Hannigan. Ian Hannigan

Thanks Aaron. unfortunately doesn't work for me. won't pick up phone, has me on caller ID, will not pick up. oh well.
did u get tracking number by chance? i really hope u do. because that is something that is required.
If you dont have it today, i honestly think this whole deal is a scam. the people on the other forum he used to use has some ...... Blah.

Ian get on here soon if your really legit. So far, everything seems like a game.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
maybe you're just anal... &nbsp; no one else seem to have trouble deal'n with the man.. &nbsp;Have a little patience for people, and some benefit of the doubt too cuz you dont know how it is to run a business..

[uuninja]

I still haven't gotten a reply to my email about getting in on the Tein Group buy, shame it is a good deal and I have cash in hand <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[nissmo240sx]

well he is ignoring me and the other two that had ordered front end conversions. &nbsp;the first guy is the one that ordered it in mid February-Rockout(he's in this forum in the middle- if you didnt see it). &nbsp;

im gonna try callin him now.

[sil80]

Well I just called Ian today asking for a tracking number and he said he would call me back in 1 hour with it.
A.) If he does then I will order the HE's tomorrow and he will get some of my future orders.
(Current order is just Tein T/C rods... had to play it safe and thank god).
B.) If he doesnt call me back then he will not get my order for the HE's and Ill just save the money.

I said this earlier but I will say it again... I don think he has internet access yet. I asked him to email me the tracking number and he said he didnt have email yet. To me that is completely understandable since he just moved.

Well Ian .. you have my faith for another hour.

DrDubbleB -- I havnt seen you post in a while.. whats up.. did you even partake in this GB? If so did you get stuff?

[rockout]

I just got an email...it looks promising.

[nissmo240sx]

i have some sort of good news. &nbsp; &nbsp;I called ian today and he picked up. &nbsp;He said sorry for not shipping it out like he needed to have. &nbsp;he said he will definately have my check shipped out tomorrow and will definately call me tomorrow with the tracking #!! &nbsp; &nbsp;HE seemed very surprised to hear of my call!! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Hopefully he does and everything will be perfect. &nbsp; &nbsp;he said he will need to call me with the tracking number instead of emailing it because he has no internet service at the moment. &nbsp;he said FOR SURE TOMORROW- no doubt by him . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ill let you guys know tomorrow.

[sil80]

Nissmo did you get your tracking number? Ian never called me back...

[uuninja]

So any word on if the group buy will be extended. I can't even put in an order cause I have not heard back from Ian. Nor do I have a direct number to contact him at....If some one talks to him soon would you mind asking him what the scoup is?

[sil80]

Ok, Just talked to Ian and he says does not have internet access. I asked him about the timeline for the GB since he is kinda in a mess getting his house/business together after the move. He says for now the group buy will stay going tell he can get online and decide on a new date(probably another 2 weeks).
He is waiting for the company he went through to call him back with the tracking numbers.
I pretty much fronted him on the fact that I would not post my order for the HE's tell I got tracking info for the T/C rods. He was completely cool with that which gives me some more faith in him. So lets all try and stick this moving process out with him and hopefully he will get everything taken care off...


What did DrDubbleB fall off the planet???

[DrDubbleB]

I'm here guys...sorry I haven't been posting much either, I've just been really busy planning my vacation and hanging out with friends that got out of college for the semester and whatnot. &nbsp;If any of you ever have any questions feel free to e-mail me because that's probably the only thing that I have been checking regularly. &nbsp;I have to admit that I have not participated in the GB, just set it up. &nbsp;Plans were to participate but I haven't been able to come up with the cash like I thought I would be able to. &nbsp;I'm still trying though because I really want to buy Teins.

So no, I have not ordered anything from Ian as of yet, but definitely will in the future. &nbsp;I have faith in him because I have not only spoken to him, but also some of his customers and they have spoken nothing but praise for him. &nbsp;This is why I was confident enough to set up this group buy through him and am sure that once he gets settled in, everything will go smoothly.

Anyways, I leave on Sunday so if you e-mail me after that, I will not be able to respond for a week (I do not plan to check my e-mail at all)...

Any other questions direct to me for now I guess, or if you have a way of contacting Ian, do so. &nbsp;My e-mail address is [email protected]

[uuninja]

Hope he gets this together soon because I will be out of the country for ~3 weeks on buisness after the 27th. Would hate for it to come and go while I am gone. Though I will probably have access to email/fax I want to have this nailed down well in advance.

[csingham]

people keep us posted thanks

[TheTicTac]

I can't let this post be buried, I want my stuff I ordered from ian. Either that or warn the people that are going to buy from him!

Andrew

[Racer X]

has anyone at least gotten a tracking number. i want order but dont want to get screwed.

[lostprojects]

Man,

Don't understand what this is all coming too.

TicTac recevied my call as soon as I got his check. I got his check after almost 2 weeks after he sent it, this was due to the move. I got it after it was forwarded to me from my old address.

I warned everyone that's sending me a personal check, please be a little patient while the process takes place. I am not going to place an order for a product unless I have the money deposited into my account.

I just got the money deposited into my account and have made the order.

It's a little frustrating that I have to come on and explain what's going on. Everyone has my address and telephone #, I am not going to disappear.

Apart from the point that checks needs to clear, it takes time for orders to be placed, it takes time for distributors to get the parts, and many other reasons! Another was added, becasue people are impatient, calling my distributor, corrupting the business relationship, making everything just that much harder.

I need a lot of people to understand, I am selling everything that I am offering to everyone at prices that are unheard off. Lost Projects is a side business that I have, I spend all my extra time on this, but there are so much that I am able to do. I want everyone's business, but at the same time, everyone needs to also understand that it takes time to get things done. It's been a week and impatience is taking over.

Don't know what to do.

Ian

[TheTicTac]

Well, when you say things like I'll call you back in an hour and never call back, it is kind of disconcerning. I understand that it takes time, but at least let me know you are still there. I understand the business and the position that you are in, but there is a point where you have to let your customer know you have not vanished. I also understand that you are busy and calling me everyday is not option, but an email would be enough.


Andrew

[lostprojects]

Andrew, that's cool, but I do not have your e-mail address. &nbsp;You never contacted me through e-mail, therefore, I don't know the address. &nbsp;I e-mailed you through Zilvia though, did you get that? &nbsp;Send me your e-mail address, I will keep you posted.

Ian

[dball33]

I was just wondering if anyone has recieved their products yet?

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dball33 @ May 25 2002,11:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was just wondering if anyone has recieved their products yet?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You guys are a bunch of low-life dumbass homos... &nbsp;seriously, good deals like this dont come around often so have some fucking patience.

Let me ask you this, would shady scamers tell you if they're moving, the info of his distributor, and give you his fucking address and phone number? &nbsp;Give me a fuckn break... &nbsp;

Which other dealer you hear about that calls customers on the phone about his order, god damn it, Ian's doin as much as he can... &nbsp;

To that 240*#%& son of a bitch, how're you gonna order something and back out just cuz the order came in late and it wasn't anyone's fault.. &nbsp;and then come on here and bash lostproject.. &nbsp;go eat shit or som'... &nbsp;I dont care if Ian promised a refund, it's your fuckin fault for backing out.

Too all those that have waited a week and doubtin lostproject, go shoot yourselves..

I order wheels from Ian and it had been 2 months because it was coming from Japan, it came in last week.. &nbsp;that shit was more than your damn teins by far and nothing was wrong with it. &nbsp;There's my prove..

[gschroeder78]

What about those of us who ordered our stuff Feb 13 and still haven't recieved anything. I'm pretty sure no one thinks Ian is a scammer unless they're slow but some of us are getting frustrated and it's getting alot harder to be patient.

[nissmo240sx]

I received my check from Ian. &nbsp;Appreciate you taking the time to send this to me. &nbsp;thanks.

[gschroeder78]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nissmo240sx @ May 31 2002,11:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I received my check from Ian. Appreciate you taking the time to send this to me. thanks.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Good to hear Nissmo. Ian said he'd be sending my front end this week to things are looking good. Thanks Ian.

[silvia240]

Luey02... you really need to keep your mouth shut. &nbsp;He is running a business and customers come first. &nbsp;He is handleing OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. &nbsp;yes MONEY. &nbsp;As you can tell, people get impatient if they spend their hard earned money. &nbsp;And did you ever think not every one is as patient as you? &nbsp;
Think bro.....
I am sure lostprojects is doin everything he can. &nbsp;Moving is really a pain in the butt. &nbsp;All i have to say is that you should not be taking any orders during the times where all your time will be devoted else where. &nbsp;
And lostprojects, since you are running a business, you know you will deal with many many more impatient customers. &nbsp;Dont worry about it so much.

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silvia240 @ June 02 2002,06:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Luey02... you really need to keep your mouth shut. He is running a business and customers come first. He is handleing OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. yes MONEY. As you can tell, people get impatient if they spend their hard earned money. And did you ever think not every one is as patient as you?
Think bro.....
I am sure lostprojects is doin everything he can. Moving is really a pain in the butt. All i have to say is that you should not be taking any orders during the times where all your time will be devoted else where.
And lostprojects, since you are running a business, you know you will deal with many many more impatient customers. Dont worry about it so much.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok tightfuck, maybe you should become more patient then. &nbsp;the point is none of you homos have ran a business before but act like you have and critizing businesses for not being responsive. &nbsp; &nbsp;

pimp'n aint EZ

[gschroeder78]

I don't think waiting 4 months is being impatient. I also don't think not running a business makes me unqualified to complain about waiting. If you think otherwise, send me a bunch of your money and see how long it takes before you decide you want something in return.

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ June 02 2002,08:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silvia240 @ June 02 2002,06:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Luey02... you really need to keep your mouth shut. &nbsp;He is running a business and customers come first. &nbsp;He is handleing OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. &nbsp;yes MONEY. &nbsp;As you can tell, people get impatient if they spend their hard earned money. &nbsp;And did you ever think not every one is as patient as you? &nbsp;
Think bro.....
I am sure lostprojects is doin everything he can. &nbsp;Moving is really a pain in the butt. &nbsp;All i have to say is that you should not be taking any orders during the times where all your time will be devoted else where. &nbsp;
And lostprojects, since you are running a business, you know you will deal with many many more impatient customers. &nbsp;Dont worry about it so much.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok tightfuck, maybe you should become more patient then. &nbsp;the point is none of you homos have ran a business before but act like you have and critizing businesses for not being responsive. &nbsp; &nbsp;

pimp'n aint EZ</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wow, K Lu...

You are really going out of your way to be a total dick. If I were Ian, I would be the first to tell you to shut the hell up. Do you really think you are doing him any favors by acting like a total jerk in front of his prospective customers? If you are really a friend of his you need to apologize to him for all the business you have probably driven away, and the rest of us for being a total prick.

It is pretty clear where you are coming from. I have seen that attitude too many times. From plenty of shop owners that felt like they were doing their customers a favor buy letting them shop there. News flash asshole, people will gladly pay more for better service. I am one of those people. If you intend to be in business for any length of time you will figure that one out. If you can't deal with being on top of your business then maybe you should find a different line of work. Something to think about when you are writing you inevitable flame response.

Ian, I realize that this prick's attitude probably dose not reflect those of you your associates or LostProjects. But if you know this guy, seriously put this dog on a short leash.

[CrazyGoofyWeirdGuy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 26 2002,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--dball33+May 25 2002,11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dball33 @ May 25 2002,11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was just wondering if anyone has recieved their products yet?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You guys are a bunch of low-life dumbass homos... seriously, good deals like this dont come around often so have some fucking patience.

Let me ask you this, would shady scamers tell you if they're moving, the info of his distributor, and give you his fucking address and phone number? Give me a fuckn break...

Which other dealer you hear about that calls customers on the phone about his order, god damn it, Ian's doin as much as he can...

To that 240*#%& son of a bitch, how're you gonna order something and back out just cuz the order came in late and it wasn't anyone's fault.. and then come on here and bash lostproject.. go eat shit or som'... I dont care if Ian promised a refund, it's your fuckin fault for backing out.

Too all those that have waited a week and doubtin lostproject, go shoot yourselves..

I order wheels from Ian and it had been 2 months because it was coming from Japan, it came in last week.. that shit was more than your damn teins by far and nothing was wrong with it. There's my prove..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
**Breaking out the fire suite**

Customers come first, no matter what. &nbsp;You break your ass to make the money to work your car, then you may loose your money and you freak, no shit. WTF would you do, just becuase you obviously have a relationship with LP outside of zilvia, you can trust him. &nbsp;They can not, and have NEVER met the man. &nbsp;Understand, like you are YELLING at us to do.

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CrazyGoofyWeirdGuy @ June 02 2002,10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 26 2002,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dball33 @ May 25 2002,11<!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was just wondering if anyone has recieved their products yet?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You guys are a bunch of low-life dumbass homos... &nbsp;seriously, good deals like this dont come around often so have some fucking patience.

Let me ask you this, would shady scamers tell you if they're moving, the info of his distributor, and give you his fucking address and phone number? &nbsp;Give me a fuckn break... &nbsp;

Which other dealer you hear about that calls customers on the phone about his order, god damn it, Ian's doin as much as he can... &nbsp;

To that 240*#%& son of a bitch, how're you gonna order something and back out just cuz the order came in late and it wasn't anyone's fault.. &nbsp;and then come on here and bash lostproject.. &nbsp;go eat shit or som'... &nbsp;I dont care if Ian promised a refund, it's your fuckin fault for backing out.

Too all those that have waited a week and doubtin lostproject, go shoot yourselves..

I order wheels from Ian and it had been 2 months because it was coming from Japan, it came in last week.. &nbsp;that shit was more than your damn teins by far and nothing was wrong with it. &nbsp;There's my prove..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
**Breaking out the fire suite**

Customers come first, no matter what. &nbsp;You break your ass to make the money to work your car, then you may loose your money and you freak, no shit. WTF would you do, just becuase you obviously have a relationship with LP outside of zilvia, you can trust him. &nbsp;They can not, and have NEVER met the man. &nbsp;Understand, like you are YELLING at us to do.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Flame suit nothing.

I am with you. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

K Lu is being a prick. He has been harrasing people on this thread for making legitimate buisness inquries. Expressing his opinion is one thing. But trying to shout down people that have reasonible concerns, that is not OK. If he keeps it up, the Mods really should ban this ass-clown. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

[luey02]

If I can wait, so can you. Couple of great quote from you guys:

my credit card was posted to on may 8th..
be shoul be here monday and clear this all up.
im in the same boat here..may 10th!!!

HEY aaron tell me if u got a tracking number tomorrow. &nbsp; &nbsp;I won't be surprised if u don't. &nbsp;lemme know. &nbsp; if he does, ask him why he is ignoring some of us? &nbsp; &nbsp;

If you dont have it today, &nbsp;i honestly think this whole deal is a scam. &nbsp;the people on the other forum he used to use has some ...... &nbsp;Blah. &nbsp;

Ian get on here soon if your really legit. &nbsp;So far, everything seems like a game. &nbsp;

-----------------------------------------------------------

The first one was my favorite, would you call that a legitamite business concern? &nbsp;yeah..

Better service? you mean dealing with larger shops that keep inventory? &nbsp;Some shops starting out do not have an inventory to have prompt delivery and you know that from day one. &nbsp;Sure, pay more, but I rather be cheap and plan ahead.

I might've been a bit harsh on my words but having discussion about scams does no purpose besides making a legit business look bad for no reason. &nbsp;Then when you do get what you ordered, you wish you could've taken back the words. why do it in the first place?!

I wasn't talkin about the guy with that 4 months wait..so chill it

I dunno Ian any better than you guys do, but I guess I'm just thoughtful to others than some of us.

[uuninja]

K. Lu, since you like to Quote so much here are a few choice ones of yours...

dball33 said this,

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I was just wondering if anyone has received their products yet?"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

To which you responded...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"You guys are a bunch of low-life dumbass homos... &nbsp;seriously, good deals like this dont come around often so have some fucking patience."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

dbal33's comment was totaly reasonable. Not an insult not a flame but a totally reasonable question that a lot of people wanted the answer to. You were the one who was out of line.


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">" &nbsp;go eat shit or som'... &nbsp;I dont care if Ian promised a refund, it's your fuckin fault for backing out."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Here you go again. Services weren't provided in a reasonable period of time Ian agreed that this was the case and promised a refund. It obviously took longer than it should have, Ian even stated that fact. The guy was justified in his complaint. But there you go making your self look like an ass.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Too all those that have waited a week and doubtin lostproject, go shoot yourselves.."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That kind of speaks for it's self. I really don't even need to point out why you are a Dick.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I wasn't talkin about the guy with that 4 months wait..so chill it"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Neither was I, I was talking about your generaly poor attitude.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I might've been a bit harsh on my words but having discussion about scams does no purpose besides making a legit business look bad for no reason. &nbsp;Then when you do get what you ordered, you wish you could've taken back the words. why do it in the first place?!"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I will agree that some people jumped the gun on calling Ian a scammer, I don't think he is. He dose not seem to be as organized as some other business at this point, but I have no doubt that he is legit. But there is no way to know that and it is the Business' responsibility to keep it's customers informed. I think that a lot of trouble could have been avoided if Ian had found a way to return a few more emails. The fact that he moved really is no excuse.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Better service? you mean dealing with larger shops that keep inventory? &nbsp;Some shops starting out do not have an inventory to have prompt delivery and you know that from day one. &nbsp;Sure, pay more, but I rather be cheap and plan ahead."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Inventory has nothing to do with customer service. The fact is there are plenty of small business that I do business with that have their shit together and 99.999% of their feed back is positive. PDM-racing and jspec.com are 2 such examples. I have done business with both and have nothing but good stuff to say. In this case it is pretty clear that Ian didn't keep on top of stuff and he paid the price in some bad mouthing. Not the end of the world. But this is a fact of business. I will probably end up doing business with Ian in the future. But I chose not to this time around because it seemed like a hassle I didn't want.

Now, Mr. K. Lu. I am sure you are not a bad guy. But the fact of the matter is you are acting like a real jerk. I appreciate the fact that you sort-of apologized. But the fact that you still think that your behavior was appropriate, needs correcting.

I seriously wish both you and Ian the best.

-Matt

[silvia240]

how do you know i never ran a business before?
If you read carefully i say that there are many many customers that like to over react. &nbsp;DOes that give you a hint... &nbsp;retards.

[240sxspeedracer1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ June 02 2002,11:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">K. Lu, since you like to Quote so much here are a few choice ones of yours...

dball33 said this,

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I was just wondering if anyone has received their products yet?"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

To which you responded...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"You guys are a bunch of low-life dumbass homos... seriously, good deals like this dont come around often so have some fucking patience."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

dbal33's comment was totaly reasonable. Not an insult not a flame but a totally reasonable question that a lot of people wanted the answer to. You were the one who was out of line.


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">" go eat shit or som'... I dont care if Ian promised a refund, it's your fuckin fault for backing out."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Here you go again. Services weren't provided in a reasonable period of time Ian agreed that this was the case and promised a refund. It obviously took longer than it should have, Ian even stated that fact. The guy was justified in his complaint. But there you go making your self look like an ass.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Too all those that have waited a week and doubtin lostproject, go shoot yourselves.."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That kind of speaks for it's self. I really don't even need to point out why you are a Dick.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I wasn't talkin about the guy with that 4 months wait..so chill it"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Neither was I, I was talking about your generaly poor attitude.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"I might've been a bit harsh on my words but having discussion about scams does no purpose besides making a legit business look bad for no reason. Then when you do get what you ordered, you wish you could've taken back the words. why do it in the first place?!"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I will agree that some people jumped the gun on calling Ian a scammer, I don't think he is. He dose not seem to be as organized as some other business at this point, but I have no doubt that he is legit. But there is no way to know that and it is the Business' responsibility to keep it's customers informed. I think that a lot of trouble could have been avoided if Ian had found a way to return a few more emails. The fact that he moved really is no excuse.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Better service? you mean dealing with larger shops that keep inventory? Some shops starting out do not have an inventory to have prompt delivery and you know that from day one. Sure, pay more, but I rather be cheap and plan ahead."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Inventory has nothing to do with customer service. The fact is there are plenty of small business that I do business with that have their shit together and 99.999% of their feed back is positive. PDM-racing and jspec.com are 2 such examples. I have done business with both and have nothing but good stuff to say. In this case it is pretty clear that Ian didn't keep on top of stuff and he paid the price in some bad mouthing. Not the end of the world. But this is a fact of business. I will probably end up doing business with Ian in the future. But I chose not to this time around because it seemed like a hassle I didn't want.

Now, Mr. K. Lu. I am sure you are not a bad guy. But the fact of the matter is you are acting like a real jerk. I appreciate the fact that you sort-of apologized. But the fact that you still think that your behavior was appropriate, needs correcting.

I seriously wish both you and Ian the best.

-Matt</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I agree with every damn thing u said. &nbsp;Well thought out, and proved ur point to the tee.

[HippoSleek]

I appreciate Matt adding some clarity to this. &nbsp;Not only am I behind him on certain inappropriate behavior, I will go a step further and state why I, personally, think that no matter what comes of this there is a 0% chance I would do business with Ian.

In business, the customer/client means everything. &nbsp;If you don't know that now, you will learn. &nbsp;15% is a significant chunck of change on these parts, but there is a point where it really isn't worth it. &nbsp;Even if the deal came out in the end, I don't know that I would be willing to wait that long for resolution (nevermind the stress and aggrivation of feeling there might be a problem). &nbsp;Where there is an inevitable backorder or parts must be ordered from out of state, I have no problem. &nbsp;But I know my local shops can get Tein products delivered in five days.

Here's an example of a GOOD small car-related business. &nbsp;I found my t/c rod bushings were shot. &nbsp;I looked online. &nbsp;I found two real options: 1) replace bushings with PDM/Whiteline units; 2) replace tension rods w/ high quality adjustible pillow mount units. &nbsp;I researched both - R&R existing rods = $100. &nbsp;New rods drop in and may offer significant handling benefits = $220-375. &nbsp;Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of the $220 Teins in stock. &nbsp;I emailed other sellers of similar products to see if I could find a justification for paying $50-150 more. &nbsp;One shop I dealt with (phase2motortrend) knocked money off his parts to meet the Tein price -- all email correspondence, etc. took place in less than 24 hours and I received a UPS tracking number the next business day. &nbsp;THAT is customer service!

No waiting without communication. &nbsp;No month + delay. &nbsp;And no need for his buddies to give me reassurances or call me names. &nbsp;Just service. &nbsp;Is that worth 15%? &nbsp;hell yeah <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> &nbsp;For the record, of the places I tried to deal with, one local supplier was to call Tein and never called back (I called them and got the "oh yeah..." answer); another returned my email 4 days later (sorry - I already received my tracking number); and a few others didn't bother at all!

I think some of us are too accepting of businesses that give sh!tty service in car land. &nbsp;I wouldn't accept that from ANY business and I have no problem using my dollars to reinforce good customer service. &nbsp;Would you accept a 15% discount at McDonalds or Banana Republic or anywhere else to be treated like they were doing YOU a favor by making money off you? &nbsp;When you go to a restaurant, would you leave a tip if it took an hour to get your food? -what about a month? &nbsp;That's 15%

Business is what you let it be. &nbsp;But in the free market, you can vote with your feet - if you don't like the service you receive, try the next guy. &nbsp;Take care of the guys that take care of you.

mark

[luey02]

damn guys, just try'n to start some arguments. More fun like that. &nbsp;

anyway, you got your reason and I got mine and I guess it all comes down to individual's perspective. &nbsp;

Like I said, I dont even know him, he's in FL and I'm in Jersey..

[240sxygrl]

So what's the verdict here? How many of you guys have actually ordered the parts? I have the order form filled out, but I want to be sure before I fax it in........Anyone get tracking numbers?

[gtfour43]

240sxygrl what kind of products are you looking to buy from Tein? I just got my S13 Flexes from a local shop here in Hawaii for a really good deal that I cannot post. Ask your local shops if they can hook you up? I'm sure someone can get you a good price.
I'm sorry to say that I didnt go with the GB from LP but I ended up getting my coilovers in 2 days and I didnt have to pay for shipping either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Grant]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ June 04 2002,06:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn guys, just try'n to start some arguments. More fun like that.

anyway, you got your reason and I got mine and I guess it all comes down to individual's perspective.

Like I said, I dont even know him, he's in FL and I'm in Jersey..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well, this isnt a flame forum exactly, so I dont see the need for belligerent attitude towards others, whether you get a kick out of it or not.

Try off-topic.net or drunkenforums.com if you want to flame people. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

otherwise, show more respect to other members, and lost the bad attitude, please. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

after 6 years of working for my dad, 2 years working at different jobs, the rule is CUSTOMERS FIRST. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Anyways, this isn't looking good so far........ Good luck to you guys, for people who are thinking about ordering, I'd wait until this whole matter is settled no matter how good the price may seem.

[DrDubbleB]

Looks like people have started receiving their stuff so I have now deleted my post about people answering my PMs.

[rockout]

Here i am...waiting patiently.

[TheTicTac]

me too.. since people are starting to get they orders, I can wait..


andrew

[gtfour43]

who got their stuff? what did they order?

[sil80]

I got my Tein T/C rods and had them on in like 35mins.... well worth the money.

[wizdom]

I went to lostprojects.com, there isn't anything to shop for!?!
How did you guys get to order stuff from this guy?? &nbsp;am I browsing the wrong site or something? &nbsp;

All the page has are dead links. &nbsp;How do you know about this guys product line. &nbsp;Someone give me a general idea of what he has available...please.

[gschroeder78]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wizdom @ June 09 2002,11:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I went to lostprojects.com, there isn't anything to shop for!?!
How did you guys get to order stuff from this guy?? am I browsing the wrong site or something?

All the page has are dead links. How do you know about this guys product line. Someone give me a general idea of what he has available...please.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
He's usually on here offering stuff but I haven't seen him for awhile. Anyone know where Ian is?

[rockout]

It seems like everyone got their refunds/products and everyone is happy, but i'm still sitting here after 4 months waiting for my money back. &nbsp;Ian hasn't returned any emails in a while or any phone calls in a while. &nbsp;I left a few voice mail messages telling him that my cell phone was turned off and to contact me at home. &nbsp;So what is the deal IAN? &nbsp;I see you setting up a meet in the tampa area and it seems like you're a great guy. &nbsp;It seems like you're doing a lot for the nissan community, but i gave you $3000 and you haven't done anything for ME. &nbsp;What's up?

[csingham]

WTF this guy is having a meet in Fl and he owes you $3000, have you been in contact w/ him? Has he called you?

And as a reply to all the above post, 3000 is a lot of money and 3 months over due is a long time.

Dude are you going to take that guy to court? It's nice and all that he sent out some rods and other little stuff, but dude 3000 deserves not only that full amount but a public apology.

I think until this issue is resolved with xrockoutx
I'LL BE BOYCOTING ANY LOSTPROJECT EVENT, DEALS, AND ANYOTHER B.S. FROM THIS GUY <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[gschroeder78]

I'm still waiting for my front end as well. He said he was going to have it shipped the week of Memorial Day and I haven't heard from him or gotten any replies since then.

[Rcs476]

I too was considering joining this groupbuy, hell it WAS a good deal. But I will gladly spend a hundred or two more elsewhere after I saw the catastrophie that ensued.

As for all the arguing in here, the customer may not always be right, but it is the customer (and how you treat them) that will make or break your business.

As for the people waiting for their front end's, at this point, I would strongly advise you guys to start looking into your legal options. There is no reasonable excuse for what is happening to you guys. I personally cannot believe you guys are being this patient. Good luck.

[silviase]

looks like there's not going to be a meet on the 6th or 7th of july cause if this guy Ian who is sponsoring the event does'nt seem like hes going to make it since he owes people money
right? someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[rockout]

I'm pretty much 100% sure he'll be at the meet and the meet will go on. &nbsp;He put a ton of effort into it, which is great on his part. &nbsp;I know i live no where near him so he has no reason to hide or anything stupid like that. &nbsp;I hope the meet still goes on because it sounds like a great thing in the making. &nbsp;Someday i could go to a meet if i had my money to buy another car.....hmmmm..maybe not?

[csingham]

Lostprojects has not even responded to this thread.
From the looks of it the guy is owing people at least 5000+

HOW DO YOU SPEND OTHER PEOPLES MONEY? FRAUD?

Where did the money go?

[shark0769]

FYI to all those that are looking for this guy...he's now posting items on http://groupbuycenter.com ... he's got two items for sale right now: &nbsp;AVC-r and GReddy turbo kit. Good Luck.

[bbp]

It sucks to see people get ripped off. I was curious so I typed "Ian Hannigan" into Google.com. It came up with some interesting reponses.


(Disclaimer: I am not implying this is the same guy. Maybe just a coincidence)

edit: removed link

[West]

Dont know if it will help anyone but here is his contact info from GroupBuyCenter.

Wesley Chapel, Florida 33543
Voice Order # - 813-907-3380
Fax # - 813-973-2340
E-Mail - [email protected]

This page lists contact information for Lost Projects Performance
Mailing and/or Store Address:

1846 Twisting Lane
Wesley Chapel, Florida

MapQuest Link (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=5&mapdata=IU7%2bzZp2wKVjc6MNy8JwoTVOhPvLFimFyh8SOGjk 2dy1rczu5KDRPZiiDO7d4FJfTQsO3WdzdXULvcgwHuic12o3ew GS
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Phone: 813-907-3380

eMail Contacts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GENERAL: [email protected]
ORDERS: [email protected]
SUPPORT: [email protected]

Company Contact:
&nbsp;Ian Hannigan

Company Website:
&nbsp; www.lostprojects.com

Member Since:
&nbsp;2/26/2002 10:52:20 PM

[csingham]

honesty i'd like to say Ian is getting a bad rep from this post, yet he has not typed what he is doing to help these people out.
I've worked with Nippon Motors in the past and they have no had a problem refunding or getting new motors for ones that they said were good. I just can't see how a distributor can hold on to cash w/ out product. the law is 30 days, our hearts say 2 months, & my fist say 30 seconds.

i'd really like to hear the full story from the seller

[csingham]

I started this post so i'm happy to follow up any leads, turns out that another lostproject deal went south.

http://www.zilvia.net/f....08;st=0 (http://www.zilvia.net/f/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=12308;st=0)

someone is going to have a supina in the mail