widened steelies

[TokyoNights]

somebody should try it on a s13 :mepoke:
http://students.risd.edu/yr2005/jklee/web/rice/122_2280.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/krazy_hare/Jetta-55.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9931/el17le.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3230/el24xe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/krazy_hare/fsdfs.jpg

[reefer1114]

i like it......

[nyquil]

freakin sweet...

[A Spec Products]

Option 1: convert to rear axle, then run dually tires, two steelies at a time!

or

Option 2: flip steelie inside out, -75 offset!

[AndysAutoSport]

Those are hot for an AE86 but the wheel diameter is a bit small for our 240's.

Excellent work put into those though.... :D

[Silvia_Drift]

Those are sickkkk! Look pimp and ghetto at the same time lol. I'd rock those ones with the polished lips.

[tchenku]

only one question: where can i get something like that done at?

i've thought about flipping the steelies around and have like -75 offset. :)

[holaback]

Oh god not stupid ****** wagons

VW is the worst car company ever adn teh enthusiats ever stupider

[NateKim]

Way to be close minded. Glad you're pinked.

Anyway, those are the shit. The dually rears is an even better idea though. Then I'd put Chevy 3500 down the side of my car. :naughty:

[statik]

Oh god not stupid ****** wagons

VW is the worst car company ever adn teh enthusiats ever stupider

i forsee a rough life here for you at zilvia

[drifter808]

i like them. think they'd look sick on a s13.alittle small but they'd work.

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

Oh god not stupid ****** wagons

VW is the worst car company ever adn teh enthusiats ever stupider

wow, no wonder you are pinked with only 11 posts...

the powdercoated + polished lip ones look fucking sick. i'd rock them if they were 15"+

[rainier]

ive seen some guys in san diego with those. i think the shop that did it was in san diego too.

[black s13]

FYI dodge magnums have 17" steelies...

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

whats the width on them though? since thats the point of the thread: width. and is the bolt pattern the same?

[ThatGuy]

I've got some 16x10 steelies lined up. 4 LUG too!! w00t!! :D :D :D

I'd tell you where to get them, but I'd rather wait till I get mine. :fart: :rofl:

[black s13]

whats the width on them though? since thats the point of the thread: width. and is the bolt pattern the same?

none of those wheels came that width, it seems modifying the width is the point of this thread. theyre 5 lug, i have no idea what spacing, but if the money is being dropped to widen them, the lugs can be modified as well.

[TokyoNights]

You can just use the stock s13 15in steelies and have them widened.

[sw20>>s14]

they look good and i like them for some reason, but ill bet they are heavy as fuck...

[Irukandji]

i like that... nice to see wasted wheels being put to good use.

a+ on the prep work

[mr_240sx]

how can you get stock wheelies widened?

[ThatGuy]

Cut them in half and weld a piece in between that is the same diameter. 15 inches.
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3230/el24xe.jpg
See the welds?

[mr_240sx]

are the welds gonna be strong enough? not sure if those wideneded steelies would be safe

[giant killer]

vortex much..? my driveway consists of the two s13 and a mk3 jetta.. anyways.. widened steelies are pretty much the shit..

stocktonwheel.com is a big company who i think did the ones on the black golf.. there are others as well..

benny b

[HyperTek]

dam not some heavy ass rims... screw that.. its doesnt have any advantage.. id rather run some konigs 17x7

I love VWs tho.. its just different then what we got... something that must be admired by enthusiest. Id rock hub caps on those tho.. lol

[Tygma]

Uhhh any other former vdubbers here (Jerry, Mike, etc..) feel like this is three years ago all over again?

Yeah, that was all the rage a while back. You guys do realize its about $220 a wheel to get them widened. So yeah, $880 for steel, 15 inch, anti-brake cooling, heavy SWEETNESS wheels!!

[!Zar!]

I see the price of steelies going up. Wish mine looked that sick.

[Ian]

noo not 220 a wheel...i know a guy that had his stock lexus wheels widened an inch and it cost him about 150 or less


still not my cup of tea but yeah...not 220

[TokyoNights]

how about some widened donuts
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1849/dsc02123oi.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2497/dsc02286hj.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8074/dsc02257vm.jpg
that hood is gangster as fuck ! :rawk: haha
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9171/dsc02178pj.jpg

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

FUCK YES! i wanna see someone do that on an S-chasis! with that hood to boot!

[turbo2nr]

yummie those would make sick ass winter tires..
hehe

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[FaLKoN240]

Those look cool. Too bad S13 steelies are fucking ugly.

[EchoOfSilence]

holy fuck that'd be heavy. why in the fuck?

[Tygma]

Look at that hood. It's stupid. I shouldn't even mention Denmark's Team Rust...

[Dutchmalmiss]

holy hell that gti looks hot as fuck! and how come we're only seeing these on VW's?

[Ghettokracker71]

Haha,that looks hot as shit! But its def a novelty thing

[pignosecoupe]

You know, I would totally rock those! I wouldn't go out of my way to get them made, but if I found some for a good price, I would prolly go through with it. I would need to get some bad ass fender flares to make it look real sick :)

<-- rocks 14 inch wheels

[zenkiDori]

holy hell that gti looks hot as fuck! and how come we're only seeing these on VW's?
because Vdub style is too hot for 240s :)

This is how it's done:
http://www.mainevwscene.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1690

[chmercer]

you guys know that custom sized steel wheels cost like nothing right? 15x12 in chrome is like 120 a piece and thats about as expensive as they get

[zenkiDori]

yep. Circleracing.com

The whole, "I built my own wheels" thing is what's most attractive to me. It would be pretty trivial to order some 16x10 +15 steelies(or aluminum) and paint the centers.

[TokyoNights]

circle racing doesnt have our bolt pattern as dont all the other places that sell custom steel wheels.

http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/uploads/post-38-1128726602.jpg

[zenkiDori]

That's funny because I see 4x4.50" and 5x4.50" patterns, which will fit.

Learn your wheel tech: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=92

[papa]

i was waiting to see how long this was going to come into this scene...they are all over vortex

[ramblux]

I know a place that can get them done in SoCal... They cut the centers out and weld on new outer hoops. They are SLOW, however, but PM me if you're interested and I can dig up the info. They just moved, so it might take me a couple of days.

[TokyoNights]

That's funny because I see 4x4.50" and 5x4.50" patterns, which will fit.

Learn your wheel tech: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=92
:Owned: x100

[nigel1]

ima definatley do this for my drift/track wheels so I can achieve the same feeling of +0 offset. it really cant be too hard to do. it just needs to be computer balanced. plus just think... you can polish the living shit out of it after its welded...

[nigel1]

just called my VW friend, and he's like... oh yeah..

WWW.DIAMONDRACINGWHEELS.COM

and a 15x9 is like 50 bux.. and I think they have 16's too and you can go almost as wide as you want...

:)

[Touring240]

16x12 roxors !

[BeerBringer]

Does anyone know if there is any 15" steel wheel that clears Z-brakes?

[hunterljc]

Thats pretty awesome. Too bad it's on a golf.. vw owners are so retarded.

[HyperTek]

Thats pretty awesome. Too bad it's on a golf.. vw owners are so retarded.

how so? comments like these make me believe 240 owners like u are retard... no seriously nothing wrong with vws..

[hunterljc]

Did I say anything was wrong with vw's? I'm talking about their owners that put 10 inch wide wheels with stretched to holy hell tires on the rear of the car.

[Team Rootbeer]

whats wrong w/ stretched tires and wide wheels??? its for LOOKS, im sure those wheels and tires dont see the track.....if u couldnt figure that out then maybe your retarded


back on topic.....HOT SHIT!!

[hunterljc]

oh ok sorry :ghey:

[revat619]

Well you have to admit, it is kinda retarded running a staggered set up on fwd car. 10in wide rear wheels on fwd? You know they're not running that up front. That IS dumb.

Anyways, i would definitely rock widened steelies for track wheels. Especially if they're that cheap! :bigok:

[chrisstroud]

Thats pretty awesome. Too bad it's on a golf.. vw owners are so retarded.
As a VW owner, I can agree with this 100%.
Stretch is one thing, staggered fitment on a FWD car is silly looking.
A lot of VWs with stretch have stretch for the sake of stretch and aren't even trying to clear fenders.

Widened steelies are pretty played out in the VW world, but some Rabbit people still rock them.
Usually on shitty "rat look" cars with nothing worthwhile under the hood.

[rainier]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6643/corradosteelies4bk.jpg

widened corrado steelies w/ polished lip!


if they can fit in on thier car, then why not do it.

[Gnnr]

^^Hotness. If we can get them under 20lbs and in 17". *drool*

[ranisron]

this could be a good alternative to someone (like me) who can't afford nice wheels.

+1 to the VWs...

[WDS13]

so what would be the best steelies to use for a s13? My dad said he had done it before, i just need to find the wheels to try it to.

[ThatGuy]

so what would be the best steelies to use for a s13? My dad said he had done it before, i just need to find the wheels to try it to.

How about S13 Stock Steel Wheels? :duh:

[WDS13]

How about S13 Stock Steel Wheels? :duh:

oh shit! my bad!

whats the best 16" steelie to use?

[bing]

http://bings.ca/images/bings%20wheels.JPG

i had these made,

15 x 7 0ET 5 x 114.3

full polished lip, 3.5 inches of it

they are 2 - piece welded steel, not very light but if you hit a curb you'll crush the curb and wont do a thing to the wheel.

i ended up selling them because i sold my S14 that i was going to winter-pig.

i can get more i beleive, the centres are shabilly painted, i never really went hard at it.

i sold this set for $350 canadian.

[moo moo]

These aren't steelies, but I thought they looked cool

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/data/500/medium/3241wheels_22.JPG
http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/data/500/medium/3241fibreflare_23.JPG

[FaLKoN240]

Aren't those just GT-R wheels from R33?

[moo moo]

Yea, but widened with a lip.

[nigel1]

I like this thread alot...

[kingsol]

are those r33's in 15's?!

[scir16v]

Those r33's are sweet. I'd like to know how to get that done.

And there's nothing wrong with VW's or their owners. If you look on vortex, there's not e-thuggery like there is with alot of the 240 forums I post on. Mostly informative posts, or truly enthusiast type posts.


And yes, I'm a VW owner.

[s14xman]

Man i think i saw those r33's posted up on here like a year ago. If you want some widened steelies just go to a tire shack and they are called boat trailer wheels or thoes nascar looking truck wheels like 30 bucks a pop. So whats soo cool about these? and why am i lookin at the car from Can't Buy Me Love?

[Yuri]

A good wheel to use for 5-lug apps would be a MkIII supra spare. They're full size 16" and since they're always just the spare, they're never bent, and always in the trunk at the junkyard.

[hunterljc]

What kind of shop can do this kind of work on a wheel?

[kay_arsen]

http://bings.ca/images/bings%20wheels.JPG

i had these made,

15 x 7 0ET 5 x 114.3

full polished lip, 3.5 inches of it

they are 2 - piece welded steel, not very light but if you hit a curb you'll crush the curb and wont do a thing to the wheel.

i ended up selling them because i sold my S14 that i was going to winter-pig.

i can get more i beleive, the centres are shabilly painted, i never really went hard at it.

i sold this set for $350 canadian.

Nice if you can get them made in 17's 4'114 i'll be all over it :aw:

[pignosecoupe]

p.s. I still love these. Gonna do it

[CylonFrakker]

Yeah those R33 wheels look Hawt

[kdashy]

Wow this is an old thread.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Since this thread is back; I tried out that diamondracingwheels.com site, what offset should i get if i were to get 16x7 front and 16x8 rear???

[Helghast]

+0
OR!
-0

C=

Msglength.

[smelly240]

ok - dead thread revival warrants me saying i still think rat style ole school veedubbleyoos are weird but somehow cool for the junglist massive inside da arena - rammed up to the rafter of course... **end statement**

[wanganwonder]

diamondracingwheel.com

have fun

[McRussellPants]

S13 owners don't need to widen their steelies because they already think the're the shit.

[RiceEata]

http://www.realwheel.net/Real/real_wheel_sheets.htm

their pro 6 3pcs rims with solid centers and non bead lock lips, might be a good option...someone should try that out.

[Ian]

those widened GTR wheels are kind of cool though

[McRussellPants]

they look like BMW wheels, which would probably cost less.

[DoriftoPnoy]

haha good stuff. but are these really safe? wonder how much it costs....

[jimmytango00]

^ +1 im thinking of doing this to my BBS RS but just not sure how safe it is.

[randyjordan]

wow..resurrection

the r33 wheels look pretty hot with a lip like that

[Vatche]

be careful with any steelie, my friend broke one at the center of the wheel. basicaly the 5 lug nuts were still attaching that section of the wheel to his car but the rim outside of the 5 lug nuts broke off.

dont paint donuts orange, its bad luck

[sil80forme]

sooo i need to know what offset/backspacing for a 15x8 and 15x9,and or 15x10. i am lost and dunno where to find info

[Yuri]

sooo i need to know what offset/backspacing for a 15x8 and 15x9,and or 15x10. i am lost and dunno where to find info
Here's some offsets that'll work without pulling fenders.
You can go more aggressive if you add negative camber, roll fenders, pull fenders, etc, but these are a safe starting point.

8 +10
9 +22
10 +32

[Ian]

they look like BMW wheels, which would probably cost less.

good call...
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/reptt.large.jpg

18x9.5 +25....only catch is they're 5x120...nothing adapters couldn't fix

[Yuri]

good call...
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/reptt.large.jpg

18x9.5 +25....only catch is they're 5x120...nothing adapters couldn't fix
For adaptors, you'll need at least 25mm to clear your factory studs, making the wheel an 18x9.5 +0

[sil80forme]

That's funny because I see 4x4.50" and 5x4.50" patterns, which will fit.

Learn your wheel tech: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=92


ha ha they do have our 4 lug pattern but only in a 13" wheel, all the 15's come in 5 lug

[blackflag_Rms13]

Old school thread...

[kickeachverse]

ive seen some guys in san diego with those. i think the shop that did it was in san diego too.

where and who? i'd love to see for myself :naughty:

[shift_s14]

for yall asking about backspacing this chart tells you from what offset u want to what backspacing you would need. IE-want a 0 offset on a 8 inch wheel u need 4.5 in. backspacing.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/shift_s14/tech-wheeloffset.gif

[FunctionFiRst]

I got mines $70 a wheel! 4 1/2 inch lip all around! comes in black, silver or chrome! If you buy them get them powdercoated yourself. They tend to rust quick!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/functionfirst/dg003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/functionfirst/done.jpg

Powdercoated white!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/functionfirst/slideamerica.jpg

cheapMoney you BuuUY!

[Bushido]

^ those look cool powdercoated white on a rolla. where'd you pick them up?

[NeedCAforS13]

i have diamond racing wheels on my s12...

15x8
15x10

ended up being just under $400 I think.

http://myspace-491.vo.llnwd.net/01337/19/46/1337896491_l.jpg

http://myspace-503.vo.llnwd.net/01337/30/50/1337880503_l.jpg

sorry, no other pics on the car, I'm too lazy to get them right now. maybe tonight.

[slideways2004]

i had those diamond racing wheels on my old s14 for a bit. took them off b/c they were too heavy. i had 16x8 i think 0 offset.

picture was taken on initial test fit. car is at stock height. and yes, those are victoracers in the rear.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3619/s14mine4rc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KA-T_240]

I'll Find pictures. But There is a guy up in my area that did that to stock sawblades. made them 9inches wide. I only have pics of them on the car.

[arkive43]

man those dimonds intrigue me. mabey for my 280z......id love some 16x10/16/9 -0 offset

[kickeachverse]

Function, where in sd u located? that's a nice true u got there.

[rainier]

^^ otay ranch prolly

[CrazyIvan]

nobody here ever heard of cragar???

they got some ridiculous shit like
15x14 -88
lol

and some good usable shit like 17x9 +0

['90RPS13]

FunctionFirst, Where did you get them? They look pimp. *a`

[Ameer]

same question^^^^^

[FunctionFiRst]

Otay Ranch. Fuck That! I actually drift my shit!

but seriously, i copped them on www.diamondracingwheels.com...I think they were the Avenger series...15x8's 3 1/2 back space on 4 x 4.5

Talk to Bill, he's a good guy!

btw, I sold that Corolla to Justin in Texas!

[FunctionFiRst]

I chopped it real quick.

If i had to do it over. Id go army style. I like all black wheels with a nice lip!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/functionfirst/green86IIIcopy.jpg

I bang these wheels up at the track and they still held up fine! They're not as heavy as they look also. They were just a little heavier than my old Supra wheels! I got the whole set for about $390 shipped! Great cheap custom track wheels!

[SochBAT]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/soshit1/car.jpg
Looks better with glossy paint.

[irax]

for yall asking about backspacing this chart tells you from what offset u want to what backspacing you would need. IE-want a 0 offset on a 8 inch wheel u need 4.5 in. backspacing.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/shift_s14/tech-wheeloffset.gif


isnt that wrong? I thought 0 offset was center of the rim? isnt the center of the rim half the width? and back spacing is mesuring the distance from the back of the rim to where it mounts to the hub? so therefore an 8 inch wheel with 0 offset, wouldn't it have 4 inches of backspace ?

[atom]

When you order a X inch width wheel it is measured from the inside of the wheel barrel where the tire sits. Backspace is measured from the outside of the barrel. IE if you have a 9" wheel and measure it from end to end it will be wider than 9 inches.

[Phlip]

Direct link to the Diamond Racing Avenger; sizes weights and prices:
http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/AvengerSeries.htm

[Pank]

When you order a X inch width wheel it is measured from the inside of the wheel barrel where the tire sits. Backspace is measured from the outside of the barrel. IE if you have a 9" wheel and measure it from end to end it will be wider than 9 inches.

this man speaks the truth, width is there to show you how wide of a tire you can put on it, backspacing deals with suspension component clearance.

[chibo]

These aren't steelies, but I thought they looked cool

[IM G]http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/data/500/medium/3241wheels_22.JPG[/IMG]
http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/data/500/medium/3241fibreflare_23.JPG
Ok. I need those :love:

[pileofherpes]

Direct link to the Diamond Racing Avenger; sizes weights and prices:
http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/AvengerSeries.htm
do they not have 4x114.3? I don't see it...

[Phlip]

do they not have 4x114.3? I don't see it...
4x4.5 is 4x114.3

[Cash]

off topic, but how does pileofherpes have so many red squares, yet he's still able to post on zilvia? *c'

[Cash]

holy crap, i just realized that's only after 36 posts too.

[blackflag_Rms13]

4x4.5 -> 4x114.3

Edit: Ok Phlip beat me...

[pileofherpes]

off topic, but how does pileofherpes have so many red squares, yet he's still able to post on zilvia? *c'
lol i say the right things.

page 5 snipe!!

[Bubba]

Im throwing on a set of new Police cruiser wheels from our local Crown Vic's and rocking those next winter. I like the polished center caps they rock too. Haha. Another reason for a cop to hate. :fawk2: Their wheels look better on my car anyways.

[FR=smiles]

Any addition info on those widened R33's?

[MikeisNissan]

Is it rusted?

[[email protected]]

My diamonds arrived via UPS yesterday. I thought I was gonna be soooooo cooooooooool.

Nope. Still unoriginal. Fuck.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

Its Alive!!!!

[BustedS13]

this is some hoodrat shit

[lflkajfj12123]

tuna sucks

funny i was thinking about widening r33 wheels yesterday

then i saw them in this thread

[JeremyR]

http://a873.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_954ea60755f1c3e47c105f172d716f50.jpg

stock s13 steelie mounted backwards on my hatch!

i actually had 2 mounted backwards in the rear.. was getting some tires put on my rims and decided to fuck around...i wish i had a better pic!

[mteehee]

http://davidjlarsen.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/0871_jesus_resurrection_christian_clipart.jpg


Ok guys. ive been poking around the stretched/flush thread and since ive been only looking for 3 weeks oor so.. i has a question or two.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/crr-397_w.jpg

would cragar's 17x9 +0 poke too far for a stock s13 rear fender?

i would probably run a 215/45 to 225/45

they look pretty sweet. and their price tag for those specs cant be beat.



Cragar 3978912 - Cragar Soft 8 Wheels - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRR-3978912/)

[Odysseus]

*Facepalm*

You can fit those on a stock fender Mike. But I wouldnt. Cause they is ugly.

[deolio]

and heavy..........

[CrazyTrance]

They are heavy as shit. One of the guys on one of my local boards had them on his coupe. They didn't look THAT bad, but yes, they weigh about like 40 lbs or something stupid. Can't remember.

[s13dan]

Im really needing to see some stretched saw-blades on a pignose. Maybe 9-10 inches wide. I have seen a lot of corvette guys that widen their stock wheels. More than a few C4's with stock sawblades that are like 12-13 inches wide. It looks fucking sick. Ill see if i can find a pic.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

those cragar's would look so dope powdercoated white on a coupe.

in other news, this thread is old as fuck.

[SxMachine]

Old post revisited but why not. Cragars look fine minus the cap see...not my car btw

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/jslashboro/pig15x8minus20cragarwheels.jpg

[VQMaxFan]

lol yeah sure thing those 9" wide wheels w/ 0 offset will fit fine....

[BustedS13]

lol yeah sure thing those 9" wide wheels w/ 0 offset will fit fine....

WITH ENUFF CAMBER THEY WILL hurr DURRRRRRR
DERP DERP DERP MOAR BETTER FITMENTZ AND HERRAFRUSH FAP FAP FAP
10 DEGREES OF NEGATIVE CAMBER ISN'T FUCKING RETARDED, IT'S TRENDY

[ayuaddict]

what about weighted steelies?

add some more weight.