pilot stb

[TonysS13]

i  seen front and back ones for $100 for both
any good ??

[tnord]

i have one i bought from grant for $30. general concensus is that it's just a bar of metal, pretty tough to screw up. cusco/nismo bars might work a little bit better, but it's pretty tough to justify spending the extra cash for marginal performance improvements.

[AceInHole]

my friend has pilot STB's front and rear in his S13... I have a cusco bar in the front of my S14.... my lap times are like 5 seconds faster!!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
opposite case though, DR's got a cusco bar and he's 10 seconds slower &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>

IMO, it's more of peice of mind to get the "better" bar... the Pilot will do a noticeable job, which is very good for just a bar that connects your strut towers together.

[Grant]

so true. It is piece of mind. $30 bar did a good job, but the expensive nismo one did a better job, the nismo one was also made for the car car. (completely contoured for the engine). I wanted a JIC c/f strut bar for the looks, but the nismo ended up to be about the same price so i went with that...

so it all depends. whether you want the best, or you just want something that works.

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ May 09 2002,12:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so true. It is piece of mind. $30 bar did a good job, but the expensive nismo one did a better job, the nismo one was also made for the car car. (completely contoured for the engine). I wanted a JIC c/f strut bar for the looks, but the nismo ended up to be about the same price so i went with that...

so it all depends. whether you want the best, or you just want something that works.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'd say it's more of whether or not that difference is something that matters to you. &nbsp;The way I see it, the Pilot STB works, but the Cusco bar is... well, it's a Cusco bar, and it works "better". &nbsp;When I look at the welded joints and threaded ends of the pilot bar, it just SCREAMS "I still flex" at me, and being someone that wants to eventually have a dedicated track setup (go to the track with 3/2.5 kg/mm springs for normal driving, then swap to 12/10 kg/mm springs just for the races....) I want something that screams "I'm stiffer than any of you watching REALLY REALLY GOOD PORN".

So uhh.... yeah. I went with Cusco and I'm happy. &nbsp;My friend went with Pilot and he keeps looking at my Cusco, but says he's happy.

[rotaryknight]

Yup It's just a bar but no matter how much you tell yourself later on you will want a Nismo, Cusco, HKS Kansai, JIC, Anniversary,Tomei, Mine's, M's, Impul, ATS, or any of the other Japan tuner's sturt bar.

The Pilot will work for now but you will never be 100% happy with it.

Also why does your Sig say JDM for life and you are considering a Pilot STB?