S14 JDM Kouki C-west front lip copies... [Archive] - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

mmdb

11-11-2005, 08:44 PM

Buddy of mine found it. Looks pretty good. Glad there's another lip out there other than the greddy for the jdm kouki s14 front bumper we can get.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/944/resized1010050173bl.jpg

**EDIT** EBay link removed. Picture of product added in it's place.

theicecreamdan

11-11-2005, 08:51 PM

you must have forgotten that we don't do ebay auctions...

just tell people to search on ebay for it or somethin

ThatGuy

11-11-2005, 09:03 PM

Fixed it for you. Next time I'll just lock the Thread and delete the link. :bow:

OptionZero

11-11-2005, 09:48 PM

C-WEST USA won't be happy to see this.

Pic on car plz.

mmdb

11-11-2005, 11:43 PM

Sorry for posting the ebay thread.

I'm curious to know what the quality is. I'll probably purchase this or c-west after I compare quality and fitament of both.

nrg

11-11-2005, 11:58 PM

it seems like they're making good copies, compared to other companies.
check out the flexability:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/Crazee_Hot_Babee/S2000/kouki2.jpg
oh yea, they're coming out with more copies, just give them some time and you'll see them all over ebay hah.

theicecreamdan

11-12-2005, 12:27 AM

any proof that they arent twisting the copied?

Xren17

11-12-2005, 12:34 AM

Isn't the auction about the same price as a real c-west one or more if you have it shipped?

S14DB

11-12-2005, 01:10 AM

It's still not Urethane like the OEM or the Greddy. Fiberglass is known to crack on the bias not from torsional loads.

KOUKI KA-T

11-12-2005, 07:16 AM

Looks like a good quality copy..... but still a copy.
And a copy of a pretty ugly lip at that.

Supreme

11-12-2005, 11:49 AM

Ya, for the price, WTF, buy the real deal. Anyway, the reason (where I come from) people didnt buy real C-West lips was because no one ever had any and the lead time was too long. The MSRP on their entire catalog these days is highly acceptable for the quality you get. Maybe its just me, but $280 MSRP and $580 MSRP for REAL C-West lips and front bumpers is a great f'ing deal.

OptionZero

11-12-2005, 12:58 PM

There's never any good pix of the C-west lip, so you'd have to buy on imagination pretty much.

It's prolly the reason i'm not sold on it, i need to know if it lines up with the s14 skirts

Revolver Ocelot

11-12-2005, 01:20 PM

Isnt there a purple kouki on this board with the C-West lip?

KOUKI KA-T

11-12-2005, 02:37 PM

Isnt there a purple kouki on this board with the C-West lip?

You mean my car with the Trust lip...

Revolver Ocelot

11-12-2005, 02:52 PM

Oh my bad. I just remembered a purple kouki with a lip that wasnt oem aero.

EH9

11-12-2005, 02:57 PM

Comment removed.

FRpilot

11-12-2005, 08:06 PM

You mean my car with the Trust lip...

haha whoa i always thought your car was one of the cars with the authentic s14 oem kouki lip.. thats what i thought when i saw your car on FA anyways.. but good to know that it is cleared up for me.. btw your car looks hot

HyperTek

11-12-2005, 08:19 PM

flexibility doesnt mean shit.. stil wont help it survice a parking block or curb..

OptionZero

11-12-2005, 08:56 PM

Yes it will. Ever had a urethane bumper? Attack the curb, it bounces right back. Paint might get scraped off, but you won't have any cracks. Fiberglass would be a million pieces.

nrg

11-13-2005, 12:06 AM

the material isn't like ebay fiberglass. it's some hybrid fiberglass. nut shell, almost like urethane.

Jblood ae86 copie bumper:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/Crazee_Hot_Babee/S2000/86.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/Crazee_Hot_Babee/S2000/bent86.jpg

Supreme

11-13-2005, 01:36 AM

There's never any good pix of the C-west lip, so you'd have to buy on imagination pretty much.

It's prolly the reason i'm not sold on it, i need to know if it lines up with the s14 skirts

Good point, Id love to see better pics.

bimmerlover

11-13-2005, 04:09 AM

There's never any good pix of the C-west lip, so you'd have to buy on imagination pretty much.

It's prolly the reason i'm not sold on it, i need to know if it lines up with the s14 skirts

You'd probably have to get the rest of their C-West kit to make it flow evenly.

OptionZero

11-13-2005, 11:28 AM

eyeballing it, there might be a possibility that it's close...but i'll wait for aspec to pick up some of the authentic ones

SimpleS14

11-13-2005, 05:13 PM

I saw a thread of their products on Honda-Tech. They take requests, 5 requests to get a part made. Pretty neat crap.

Link to said thread.....

need to get atleast five kouki owners to request the JDM OEM front lip. :wiggle:

A Spec Products

11-13-2005, 05:35 PM

Supreme

11-13-2005, 05:57 PM

/\ True, not just them either. Sucks in a way for them and the vendors, harder for them to sell and for us to push. Are you gonna post some pics of various angles for us to see? Im waiting for this to determine if Ill pick one up or not :)

KOUKI KA-T

11-13-2005, 07:23 PM

haha whoa i always thought your car was one of the cars with the authentic s14 oem kouki lip.. thats what i thought when i saw your car on FA anyways.. but good to know that it is cleared up for me.. btw your car looks hot

Thanks. I think that OEM one is too shallow and the ABS would be easier to destroy.

The flexibility defnitely does matter. I practically folded the the whole thing under itself pulling into a garage that I could clear the cement lip. It just sprung the car back, no damage at all. Thanks to 4 coats of clear the paint was fine too.

DocTaDrifT

11-14-2005, 12:31 AM

i know the guys that own the company that makes the c west knock off (went to school with his brother) their products are pretty good and they take a lot of time making everything fit well ive been to the shop while they were finishing a bumper and i was very impressed BUT it is still a knock off so im sure it wont be perfect

TurDz

11-14-2005, 01:42 AM

Thanks. I think that OEM one is too shallow and the ABS would be easier to destroy.

The flexibility defnitely does matter. I practically folded the the whole thing under itself pulling into a garage that I could clear the cement lip. It just sprung the car back, no damage at all. Thanks to 4 coats of clear the paint was fine too.

Are you referring to the OEM one as being ABS? If you are, then it's actually polyurethane also.

I remember if I held the OEM lip on one end the other side would kind of just twist freely, like the people are doing in that picture above, except holding it on one end only. Reminded me of a gummy worm or something, haha.

suhster85

11-14-2005, 02:06 AM

I just saw the ebay auction. The buy it now price of this lip is $250. The MSRP from C-West is $270.

The difference in cost is only 20 bucks.

The C-West lip is made out of PFRP which is the hybrid fiberglass material. Sometimes people justify buying the knock off product stating how much cheaper it is than the authentic product, but in this case the difference is only 20 dollars. Personally I'd rather pay 20 extra bucks and ensure that I get the quality part.

KOUKI KA-T

11-14-2005, 06:10 AM

Are you referring to the OEM one as being ABS? If you are, then it's actually polyurethane also.

I remember if I held the OEM lip on one end the other side would kind of just twist freely, like the people are doing in that picture above, except holding it on one end only. Reminded me of a gummy worm or something, haha.

Oh my bad then, I assumed it would be the same thing the OEM sides and rear valences are, which while fairly flexible can be cracked fairly easily.
Good to know.

But still too expensive and not low enough :D

OptionZero

11-14-2005, 10:34 AM

but it flows with s14 optional skirts =P

KOUKI KA-T

11-14-2005, 01:29 PM

but it flows with s14 optional skirts =P
Meh, I really think the trust one flows better. The OEM one sits higher than the sides do. The Cwest one doesn't flow at all, just matches their sides.

OptionZero

11-14-2005, 01:52 PM

are you talking jdm oem lip + jdm optional s14 skirts? take a look at turdz car:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/OptionAero/Kouki%20Twins/DSCN1203.jpg

NOt perfect, the front lip is a little thicker along the bottom than the skirt, but its pretty damn close.
My only complain is the kouki valences in the rear are significantly "thicker" where it flares out than the skirts or the lip.

Oh well, I will just enjoy the beauty and flexibility of urethane.

KOUKI KA-T

11-14-2005, 02:41 PM

Yeah I am, I just don't like how the lip lifts in the front. I have the trust one with the optional sides, I like it better (and it's urethane as well). But that's just my opinion. OEM one still looks pretty nice, and the sides right in front of the wheels do flow better then the Trust one (trust one is flat) but it just doesn't quite do it for me though. That's also why I think the Cwest one doesn't look that good unless you have their sideskirts to match it.

Kinda dark but I just like how the Trust lip is level and doesn't swoop up in the front... (only side shot of my car I have)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/srhamlin/davidspics/226_2621.jpg

OptionZero

11-14-2005, 03:20 PM

we seriously SERIOUSLY need pix of the c-west lip. I wanna see how "off" the C-west lip is, and whether a shop could trim it or something...hehehehe

You're cheating, you have a dark car so everything looks like it flows!!! lol

mmdb

11-15-2005, 01:35 PM

Had them send me a few pictures. I'll post more when I pick it up and test fit it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/mmdb/Misc%20Things/cest3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/mmdb/Misc%20Things/c-west2.jpg

OptionZero

11-15-2005, 01:47 PM

the upper edge is about a half inch too high and it hangs just a HAIR too low...not nearly as bad as I thought.

I need to see it in white now! hahaha...

aw screw it i need wheels first before any more plastic

S14DB

11-15-2005, 02:36 PM

aw screw it i need wheels first before any more plasticYes you do.

I would like to see it painted and installed also. Not just slipped on.

OptionZero

11-15-2005, 02:58 PM

i was lookin at those wheels on Alta's website, they looked decent sitting there by themselves, but mounted on an S14 kouki, ...yeah i won't be considering those anymore

mmdb

11-21-2005, 08:48 PM

Here's some pix when I went to shine aero in ontario... As far as the quality goes it's very flexible and the quality is definitely there. I did see some cracks in the plastic which was probably due to twisting the thing like you've seen in previous pictures. For the fitament, it was VERY tight. Each end of the lip was 1/2" to 1". I got it to barely fit, but no only after I forced it enough to cause cracks along the edges of the lip and scratch some of my bumper in the process.

I spoke with Ken at shine auto and asked if he was going to update the fitament on the lip. He might do so if there's demand. So if you want one you can email 'em and ask 'em to update it!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/mmdb/JDM%20TyteR240%20-%2011-19-2005/1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/mmdb/JDM%20TyteR240%20-%2011-19-2005/2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/mmdb/JDM%20TyteR240%20-%2011-19-2005/1234.jpg

Xren17

11-21-2005, 11:21 PM

What wheels are those?

OptionZero

11-22-2005, 10:04 AM

Nismo LM-4 or something, not available in 17's in the US (at least not normally) and only in 18s in 350Z sizing. Maybe Sentra sizing too, but i doubt it.

After seeing those pix, i'm off the lip. That whole ridge that is clearly visible along the left and right ends is waaay ugly.

TurDz

11-24-2005, 01:02 PM

I think it looks all right. The ridges on the sides aren't my preference either, but man, it's still a good lip which squares off the front end.

All this talk about the lips is funny...they're SO SIMILAR to each other only kouki fanatics like us would recognize the differences, expecially the Trust and OEM one. I'm just so happy with what I have, and I'm glad the aftermarket is making some decent copies for other people out there.