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01CelicaGT-S
05-15-2002, 06:24 PM
I own a 2001 Celica GT-S. I've had a lot of problems with it and the aftermarket is lacking so I'm probably getting rid of it. I want to get a newer model 240sx and put the sr20det in it, but I have some questions first.
I want to get a 97 or 98. Are these years compatible with the sr20det? I'm also wanting to do Silvia bodywork on the car. Is there a guide anywhere to the Silvia conversion? How much am I looking at spending for everything? What is involved?
Please don't flame on this one. I've been doing a lot of research but I can't find much on the topic.

will
05-15-2002, 06:59 PM
Yes the SR will bolt as thats what the S14mc gets in JDM-land.  What Silvia body work do you want to do? S15 front end???  I can't answer all Q's but everyone here will tell you to check out http://ww.srswap.com for specs/prices and I'll recommend using http://www.freshalloy.com search feature if you haven't already, there should be more than enough info there if you type SR20DET and S14.
hth,
-will
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Y-49CRXsi
05-15-2002, 09:46 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but the 97-98 240sx would be comparible to the s15 silvia. Yes, the sr20det is VERY compatible in the 97-98 240sx...he he. As for total conversion to an s15? You, my friend are talking about a lot of money. Internal and external conversion...the total is hovering around 10 grand i'd say, but what do i know...i have a CRX.

01CelicaGT-S
05-15-2002, 09:50 PM
Thanks for the help... what I mainly wanna do is the front end conversion and the engine. I will do other aftermarket suspension, body kit, turbo upgrades, etc.

camppain
05-15-2002, 11:06 PM
if u get a s14 whihc is a 95-98 there is no differences at all in body work.

its the s13 coupes 89-94 that get front end conversions and some fastbacks who get the sil eighty look.

onl;y probable diff is the headlights which some people have said are glass not plastic &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> i dont know much about that though..


but there is no diff in the 95-96 240's with the 95-96 silvias and also with the 97-98 m/c 240's compared to silvia's

and yes a sr20det is comaptible in a s14 some peopl e go witha s13 one since there is no variable timing on the intake cam so its easier to tune and cheaper from the start so it leaves more money for mods.

adey
05-16-2002, 12:57 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ May 15 2002,10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if u get a s14 whihc is a 95-98 there is no differences at all in body work.

its the s13 coupes 89-94 that get front end conversions and some fastbacks who get the sil eighty look.

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I think he meant the S15 "conversion"... the one everyone seems to love so much.
I'd roll my eyes if there was a decent rolleye icon, but there isn't...

pchio
05-16-2002, 04:19 AM
What do yo mean by silvia conversion?? 95-98 240sx body style is the same as the Japanese Silvia, but without the SR engine. And if you want to do a s15 front end conversion, PLEASE! Get a 95-96 240sx! Save the 97-98 for us. They are rare and many of us like it better than the s15 headlight.

-Pat

Kreator
05-16-2002, 08:14 AM
Honestly, i think it's a waste of money to do a s15 conversion on s14a (97-98). The front is very nice looking as it is, and very close to s15 (much closer than s14(95-96) and the s13s)... more to that i dare to say that the front on 97-98 is nicer than it is on s15.... my opinion though....

and i think the whole s15 front end conversion is becoming ricey... think about it... everyone is doing it...

luey02
05-16-2002, 08:46 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Y-49CRXsi @ May 15 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Correct me if i'm wrong, but the 97-98 240sx would be comparible to the s15 silvia. Yes, the sr20det is VERY compatible in the 97-98 240sx...he he. As for total conversion to an s15? You, my friend are talking about a lot of money. Internal and external conversion...the total is hovering around 10 grand i'd say, but what do i know...i have a CRX.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you have no idea...


Selling that celica and get that money for a 240 and engine will be no problem at all... Another 4G to get the front end done tho I would think..

Celica lacking aftermarket? &nbsp;no way... &nbsp;maybe you should wait for a year since it's the new generation...

tnord
05-16-2002, 10:13 AM
hey 01CelicaGT-S.......

how's that bandwagon treating ya? is it a comfortable ride, i've always wondered what one of those were like to ride in.

sykikchimp
05-16-2002, 12:24 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ May 16 2002,10:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and i think the whole s15 front end conversion is becoming ricey... think about it... everyone is doing it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Not everyone is doing it. &nbsp;Everyone "Talks" about doing it. &nbsp;It is still a rare and Many splendored thing here in the States.

Kreator
05-16-2002, 02:27 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ May 16 2002,1:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ May 16 2002,10:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and i think the whole s15 front end conversion is becoming ricey... think about it... everyone is doing it...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Not everyone is doing it. Everyone "Talks" about doing it. It is still a rare and Many splendored thing here in the States.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Fine, but that means that when someone sees your car the first thing they are gonna be asking will be "Are you getting an s15 conversion?" instead of "are you doing any mods to your engine?".... now i'd say that's a good car going ricey....

Edit: Also if you noticed, most people that are planning on switching to a 240sx are talking about s15 conversion.... and latly to many honda people around... any alarms going off about the future of our cars?

rabbit23
05-16-2002, 02:54 PM
who cares what other people do with there car's and there money. i'd rather see a fixed up 240 than a broke down POS. I am glad that people are taking an intrest in our car, it's about time it got some recognition and respect. Maybe now Greddy will finish the turbo kit and give us even more options. Our car's will never be like the Honduh boys simply cause there wasn't many built. i'd rather have 7 sr20's in my town and pay 1500 for it, than have 3 in my town and pay 2500. just an example.

HippoSleek
05-17-2002, 06:54 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rabbit23 @ May 16 2002,3:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">who cares what other people do with there car's and there money. i'd rather see a fixed up 240 than a broke down POS. I am glad that people are taking an intrest in our car, it's about time it got some recognition and respect. Maybe now Greddy will finish the turbo kit and give us even more options. Our car's will never be like the Honduh boys simply cause there wasn't many built. i'd rather have 7 sr20's in my town and pay 1500 for it, than have 3 in my town and pay 2500. just an example.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
1. you don't find primered up mismatched body color cars POS? That's how about 50% of all rice-rides end up.

2. Greddy kit - who cares? How many kits are out there already?

3. There are enough 240s in existance to fill the orders of bandwagon riceboys for the near future. While there were tenfold more Civics, most are in the hands of people who just want dependable transportation. This whole "limited supply" thing is a crock! There are way fewer ITRs, but I see 2-3 a day (and I don't drive anywhere). Don't fool yourself.

4. I know that you are not a nube and all, but do you have any idea what an SR went for ONE YEAR ago? About $1500 - complete from SRSwap. Now? $2400 and rising. Bandwagon doesn't make prices go down.

tnord
05-17-2002, 08:02 AM
mark's right, why in the world would price go down.

there are only so many engines to be had right?
more and more people want them.
sounds like a worst case scenario to me, go a head and draw yourself a little S&D chart and make the according changes. price goes up, way up.

luey02
05-17-2002, 08:26 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 16 2002,10:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Y-49CRXsi @ May 15 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Correct me if i'm wrong, but the 97-98 240sx would be comparible to the s15 silvia. Yes, the sr20det is VERY compatible in the 97-98 240sx...he he. As for total conversion to an s15? You, my friend are talking about a lot of money. Internal and external conversion...the total is hovering around 10 grand i'd say, but what do i know...i have a CRX.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you have no idea...


Selling that celica and get that money for a 240 and engine will be no problem at all... Another 4G to get the front end done tho I would think..

Celica lacking aftermarket? no way... maybe you should wait for a year since it's the new generation...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yeah, those prices are only good for yr 2002. &nbsp;Prices are def. on the rise, the supply of engine in Jap doesn't increase just cuz more people here become interested... &nbsp;


tnord, aren't you glad that we're the first few 240 people of a huge nissan bandwagon?! &nbsp;We'll have chances to to put down more newbies for hopping in the wagon.. lol.. &nbsp;stop complaining will ya...

tnord
05-17-2002, 08:53 AM
complaining? where did i complain? this whole trend hasn't affected me at all, i'm in kansas and minnesota, nobody here has them or even know what they are. i have yet to see another 97-98 in MN, and only 1 in kansas. i'm not doing a swap either, so this price thing is irrelevant. if you want me to complain i'll start talking about "drifters," and that damn guy with the neon i want to beat so badly this season.

rabbit23
05-17-2002, 03:58 PM
i was only using the price for a rough example, yes i know what the price for the swap is. but with more people getting swaps done i Assumed the price would come down. guess not. i was wrong. A good thing of more swaps taking place is, i would rather go to a shop that has done 3 or 4 than be the first. maybe it's just me.

I just don't see our cars ending up like the civic. How many 240's are seen at the HIN shows? Although i've never been i've always read reviews of only 2 or 3 being there. I don't see the whole bandwagon issue everyone else does. Then again i go weeks at a time without seeing a 240.

S&D chart, that was pretty funny, guess i shouldn't have skipped economics.