View Full Version : SR20DET DC Sports SS Manifold
AuburnRyan
11-08-2005, 08:10 AM
Any thoughts on how this would compare to OBX, SS Autochrome and the like....I would just be worried about the same thing as usual- cracking etc. I've had Dc in the past - but never on a turbo application...
I cannot find specs on the manifold just this and a Dyno sheet which yeilded ~10hp on a non-stock sr (basline was almost 350hp) and this:
"Tuned for all-out performance for racing applications only
CAD-rendered design eases installation
100% T304 Stainless steel construction
CNC mandrel bends with robotically-welded fittings deliver perfect fit
Includes comprehensive instructions and all necessary hardware
Not C.A.R.B Exempt."
So - think it's worth a little extra over the ebay brands? Warranty is one year.
http://heatsinkninja.com/s13/dc_em01.jpg
http://heatsinkninja.com/s13/dc_em04.jpg
^^ That doesn't look so hot...^^
Looks just as good as Megan Racing and those can be had at half that price
Angel
11-08-2005, 09:25 AM
Here locally I know of many that are running the ssac/megan with few issues, and only one with the Dc sports unit..... it cracked within 3 months.
Romeyo07
11-08-2005, 10:14 AM
I'd question obx and ssac before questioning dc sports if that tells you anything.
Mike Wazowski
11-08-2005, 11:43 AM
I really dig how this manifold has all the runners pointing straight down at the turbo unlike some Japanese manufactures and SSA. However I have still read reports of them cracking which makes me uneasy. I got a Full-Race, no worries.
Jeff240sx
11-08-2005, 12:02 PM
DCs have already cracked :(
Just the stock manifold, modified for external wg.
-Jeff
Adm1n1strator
11-08-2005, 01:15 PM
Ya put your money in your pocket and buy cheepie a cheepie one, much better than having a fat wife, cracks are bad
Revolver Ocelot
11-08-2005, 01:25 PM
^What the hell did you just say?
240SeXy!!
11-08-2005, 01:29 PM
I think he was talking to -jeff
AuburnRyan
11-08-2005, 01:50 PM
well - another site has a special from a vendor - sounds like they can't get rid of them...and the price differential between ebay models is only about $50.
However - I see the desin as a "first shot" as compared to some others (OBX/SSauto) who are now welding supports and support tabs to flanges as reinforcement....
I know of course, that stock is most resistnt to cracking etc...I was just curios and the feedback sounds like DC is cracking...
Jeff240sx
11-08-2005, 02:53 PM
What the hell do you guys need? The car on the front page of Fresh Alloy just before the GT-R ad was John's car, from TampaRacing. S14 sr20det stock manifold honed out and modified for external wastegate, gt25xxR (don't remember the exact trim), and some other stuff. He ran a 12.5 @ 122mph (which is a very, very low 11sec speed). Traction issues, obviously.
Now really.. why go from a free crackproof manifold that can flow to 11sec and about 400hp, to a tubular crack-prone unknown flow manifold?
-Jeff
Mike Wazowski
11-08-2005, 05:29 PM
What the hell do you guys need? The car on the front page of Fresh Alloy just before the GT-R ad was John's car, from TampaRacing. S14 sr20det stock manifold honed out and modified for external wastegate, gt25xxR (don't remember the exact trim), and some other stuff. He ran a 12.5 @ 122mph (which is a very, very low 11sec speed). Traction issues, obviously.
Now really.. why go from a free crackproof manifold that can flow to 11sec and about 400hp, to a tubular crack-prone unknown flow manifold?
-Jeff
Unless of course you go to a Full-Race manifold which has no reports of cracking.
Yes the stock manifold can flow for that much horsepower but a full-race can make even more power at the same bar and will likely have better spool characteristics as well.
NI_YON_Zenki
11-08-2005, 05:34 PM
I think DC Sports just needs to stick to what they know from the past to the current market. .. .
HONDA/ ACURA. .. .
Sorry, I know you all don't want to see those words here on this forum foundation, but Its in the best intrest for all automotive humainty. .. .
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viscid240
11-08-2005, 07:47 PM
I think DC Sports just needs to stick to what they know from the past to the current market. .. .
HONDA/ ACURA. .. .
Sorry, I know you all don't want to see those words here on this forum foundation, but Its in the best intrest for all automotive humainty. .. .
Stay Up. .. .24
My thoghts since I first heard of them being introduced to the sr market. Can't see myself running it.
Full-race or even Peak Boost is what I plan on running. Leaning more towards the P/B though.
Nismo180
11-09-2005, 05:17 PM
Get the DC! I had the Megan and soon discovered it's flaws. Mild steel flanges means warpage and trying to fix exhuast leaks every two weaks, then THE THREADS FELL OUT OF THE TURBO FLANGE. All this happening to a manifold I paid 80$ to have ceramic coated to atempt to avoid the cracking issues I had already heard about, the 80$ voiding the 50$ price difference. I bought a turbo mani, DP, and 02 housing from Ebay and everyone of them failed in one way or another. Everyone of them purchased on the advice of people on here.
Now, I have the DCSports one and can't complain yet, also ceramic coated, but it's something you should all do anyway. But, no leaks and the studs aren't falling out of the flange or anything else that went wrong with the cheapo Ebay one. Also Greddy 02 housing, and DP, also no leaks, better design on the Greddy deviated 02 housing etc, etc. you get what you pay for.
HyperTek
11-09-2005, 07:08 PM
I think DC Sports just needs to stick to what they know from the past to the current market. .. .
HONDA/ ACURA. .. .
Sorry, I know you all don't want to see those words here on this forum foundation, but Its in the best intrest for all automotive humainty. .. .
Stay Up. .. .24
ever look at the latest import tuner?? guess what.. no ones doin hondas anymore.. gotta move on.. guess 240s are next.. lol
:rant:
This manifold looks like eveyrthing else.. gotta take the risk of breakage or go home.
nissantuner22
11-10-2005, 06:55 AM
I just got a tubular manifold from helix, it was only 80 bucks and its jet hot coated to aid in temperature control. (used obviously) I was going to retain the stock manifold, but it was such a good deal I couldnt pass it up. If i had to buy a new tubular it would be a toss up between the DC and the new version autochrome. Its all about the support issue, and if you use a flex pipe in the downpipe.
Mike Wazowski
11-10-2005, 11:15 AM
I wouldn't doubt if the Helix manifold was made by the same manufacture as SSA, OBX, etc.. especially at that price.
The cost for the materials to build a quality manifold is a lot more than $80.00 dollars.
Yoshi
11-10-2005, 12:13 PM
wtf, I guess my stock mani just sux.
I was excited and hoping to hear good reviews in this thread, as my STOCK manifold is cracked/leaking :(
SirWarrior
11-10-2005, 12:26 PM
he did say it was used.
nissantuner22
11-10-2005, 01:30 PM
helix is pretty big with wrx guys. i dont think there in cahoots with ssautochrime
element240
11-10-2005, 01:50 PM
I think DC Sports just needs to stick to what they know from the past to the current market. .. .
HONDA/ ACURA. .. .
Sorry, I know you all don't want to see those words here on this forum foundation, but Its in the best intrest for all automotive humainty. .. .
Stay Up. .. .24
yea...since AEM owns DC now, so AEM should stay out of the 240 crowd and sell only honda stuff right :rolleyes: so much for the aem standalones i guess they're junk.
at least someone with "header/manifold background" is actually making these manifolds with research and development involved...is ssac doing this? or wait...those are made in taiwan = jdm wannabe = mass produced low quality crap.
for a decently priced stock-placement manifold, i'd definitely get the dc over ssac junk. i have both ssac & dc , hold them up together and you'll know what i mean.
NI_YON_Zenki
11-10-2005, 02:05 PM
I think Megan is a well designed Buget Manifold for those who just want to get out of the stock mainfold faze & incorporate some chrome under their Carbon fibre hoods. .. .
Good Point, you do get what you pay for, but if you know what you're putting your money toward then that is what makes sense, I haven't heard any issues lately with the megans that are on friends SR's & they have considered upgrading turbines with this same mainfold, they only want to go with a full-race or someother high gauge manifold due to the thoughts they have about street power. .. .I have seen the Megan S14 take some good runs, their manifolds are preconditioned to high temperature settings in conjunction with the SR's tunability. .. . so I don't think one would necessarily have to get their manifold jet hot coated just to make little grocery store liqour runs. .. .jet hot coating usually pertains to the balance of heat when under heavy heated stress loads, like tskuba track days? or time attacks, the fluxuation in temperatures when dealing with lightly tuned (street) cars need to be recognized. .. .when you run the car, then park the car, then run it again, thats creating movement in the metal due to heating/cooling issues with this extra coat on the mainfold that was taken as a precaution to the problem you've increased. .. .
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NI_YON_Zenki
11-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Oh, & nismo180. .. .Invest in some locktight, you might feel better after the install. .. .
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