Your Opinion on rear multi link manufacturers.

[sLiDewAys]

*Kazama
-RUCA
-Toe arms
-Subframe collars

*Cusco
-RUCA
-Toe arms
-Forward link( traction rod)

*Nagisa Auto
-RUCA
-Toe arms
-Forward link(traction rod)

*KTS(NOT SPLparts.com)
-RUCA
-Toe arms
-Forward link( traction rod)
-subframe collars

*ctune
-RUCA
-Toe arms
-Forward link ( traction rod)
-subframe collars

*Deluboxparts( blue ebay real multi link arms)
-RUCA
-toe arms
-Forward link ( traction rod)
-subframe collars

there are many many other manufacturers of suspension componenets out there for the S chassis, but the main reason i opened this was to get an idea on what majority of the zilvians here are using. weather it may be a mixture of kazama, cusco, ctune and some ebay stuff or from justl one parts suplier.

I know some have their PRO suspension quotes like" you get what you pay for" and such, but we are breaking down PRICE vs. quality product and Name brand vs. generic copy.

i've seen some of the set ups from this forum and it seems to be that the most important component for the rear link is RUCA, the majoriy fail to buy the cheap product s imply becasue if its duty. RUCA takes a beating among the other 2 rear amrs. Now with the Toe arms, ive seen mixed parts suppliers here as well. People mixing kazzama with tanabe and such, ive seen cusco mixed with ebay parts. what is your opinion with the toe arms in terms of price vs. quality made product. Does anyone have experience with the cheaper OFF BRAND products and how did it work. And now the rear traction rod, the majority of these ive seen were ebay off brand products, to why i do not know. what are your opinion on this rear suspension link? and weather you would run the generic type or spend the money for the name brand product


here are some pics i dugg up of some of the link similarities.

KazZama
http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/images/398.jpg

KTS
http://www.kts-web.com/overseas/product/arm/img/ra.jpg

Cusco
http://www.driftfactory.com/product_thumb.php?img=images/ruca.jpg&w=145&h=160


and here we have the ebay delubozparts GENERIC type ruca.
http://i8.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/cf/27/12_1_b.JPG
*notice that it shares the same tube design with bracing on one side and the other side actualy has added support bar unlike the cusco, kazzama, kts unit. NOt saying its a better product but it does have added support.


anyhow tell me what you think and what products you are running or prefer.

brandon

[axiomatik]

You didn't list Battle Version, I know those are pretty popular as well.

[REDSH!FT]

I use:
-Battle Version RUCA
-stock everything else

lol

Honestly, I think the most important factor in control arms is the spherical pillowball mount. If it binds up easily, that's no good. I've seen those Powertrix ones get really squeaky and stuff. They even have zerk fittings for greasing. Some of the other ones i've seen dont have them.

[the head]

I use all battle version.

Good stuff great quality no issues

[sLiDewAys]

so why did you chose battle version? new unbandwagoned parts or do you favor their products? tel me why you chose that specific company.

brandon

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

I have Kazama sub-frame spacers. Nice stuff, but they are all pretty much the same. Buy SPL. I also have CTune RUCAs. They work, quality is good enough. Not the best stuff I have seen, but I would buy other parts from them. For the toe links I have Deluboxparts. Absolute garbage. But they work. I don't reccomend buying them.

[sLiDewAys]

in your words, what makes the deluboxparts garbage, rusting> spherical joint making excessive noises? actual part failure?

i hear the break. but thats not from my own personal experience which is why i ask

[Dousan_PG]

if i dont buy SPL (customre support is top)
ill buy BV (high quality and good support, and alex is coolest guy ever)


both high quality parts

buy either and be dont the first time

[Flybert]

SPL or Battleversion hands down.

[OptionZero]

if it's got teflon coated ball joints than they should be good to go.

People that say "hey's it's cheap so I can replace it" probably aren't driving their cars much; you don't *want* it to break on you on the track, so investing more in something that is far more likely to last is the way to go.

[SoSideways]

I have first gen SPL T/C rods up front, and the heim joints are now rusty cause I was an asshole and didn't buy the boots to cover up the joints.

However, with that said, they're still rocking and no squeaks or binds from them.

And because you can get their version 2 T/C rods for a mere $99 if you've purchased their V1 T/C rods, I'm going to get those when the money is there.

[OptionZero]

REAR multilink manufacturers...so why mention tc rods man?

[DJPimpFlex]

I have all BV linkage. Exelent stuff. I got a good deal on it too because I bought the car that alex had all the stuff on it already for $500. Sold the stock car for $200 and got all linkage for $300. Seems good to me. Quality is exelent and I have no complaints at all. +1 for Battle Version.

[theicecreamdan]

if it's got teflon coated ball joints than they should be good to go.

People that say "hey's it's cheap so I can replace it" probably aren't driving their cars much; you don't *want* it to break on you on the track, so investing more in something that is far more likely to last is the way to go.

dont want it to break and I dont wanna waste my time replacing weak product.

[SoSideways]

REAR multilink manufacturers...so why mention tc rods man?

Because what I said has to do with SPL's customer service. And the fact that their products are worth their price.

Those 2 qualities should also be considered when you are about to purchase a product from a company, shouldn't they?

[OptionZero]

SPL makes the tension rods they sell on their site.

SPL does not make their RUCAs, IIRC they sell Cusco.

[A Spec Products]

i use cusco

good stuff, do it right the first time

[sLiDewAys]

since most of you feel strongly about quality made products
(not that i dont) backed by a well nown company, how do you feel about traction rods aka forward links? i do not know amny people who are running these so my comments are limited nor do i compleetly understand its duty in the rear link, but by the WORD TRACTION id assume that what is helps. anyone have any comments on this part. and if possible add pics and suspension diagrams to back your opinion so there arent any argument over your statment.

aslo, SPL are really good people and their customer service is excellent. i bought my kts type 8 coils and subframe collars from them and i was intrested in the KTS rear multi link but when i asked for those products they told me not to buy and that i should use the spl rear link set, I dont think they make their rear link set that is displayed on their site to whey they reccoment me not to use kts i assume they are telling me for my own good. KTS w hich is a major plus, tests all their products. If you have ever visited their site they have a few RnD cars that are tested regularly to enshure safe usage of their products so im pretty shure its quality made pieces. their prices arent too arguable either. anyhow thats all i wanted to say on that.


brandon

[TheTimanator]

interested in the KTS rear multi link but when i asked for those propducts they told me not to buy and that i should use the spl rear link set, they cant realy be baking their product becasue they dont make them so i assume they are telling me for their own good.

do what?....

[sLiDewAys]

do what?....


ntrested in the KTS rear multi link but when i asked for those products they told me not to buy and that i should use the spl rear link set, I dont think they make their rear link set that is displayed on their site to whey they reccoment me not to use kts i assume they are telling me for my own good.

[OptionZero]

From what I am told:
Rear multilink has 3 arms: toe , traction, and rear upper. These 3 form a triangle/box, and when you adjust one, the others are affected.

RUCA affects camber, Toe controls toe, and the traction kinda "balances" the two or something to that effect

[sLiDewAys]

From what I am told:
Rear multilink has 3 arms: toe , traction, and rear upper. These 3 form a triangle/box, and when you adjust one, the others are affected.

RUCA affects camber, Toe controls toe, and the traction kinda "balances" the two or something to that effect


yeah thats sounds pretty straight forward. ic now.

which of these companies offer rubber dust boots w/ their products?

[OptionZero]

from the pictures...Kazama...the rest don't look like they come with it....

search under my name for "dust boot" and you'll find links to places that sell seals and boots for various size heim joints u can put them in yourself

If it's Teflon coated it should be fine w/o boot IIRC, which is why battle versions are good

[sLiDewAys]

which fully stands behind the statment
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR:) so im happy ive went with some of the best in the buisness.

okay now were moving on,

Front multi link

here is what ive seen used

Full tein tie rod inner/outer set

Peak performance inner/ kts outter tie rod

Full JIC toe rod inner/outer set

full MOOG tie rod inner/outer set(oem quality)

Various innter rod w/kazzama;kts inner

what are the set ups for tie rods are you running

also lets talk front subframe stiffening products
laddar bars, silk road tension brace, power brace, cusco tension brace, tanabe tension brace. ther are many many different rods ive seen used. which of the do you have and how do u rate them in terms of stiffening up the chassis/predictable response increase.

has anyone used the nagisa auto strut tower plate that bolts to the firewall? and if so how would you rate it.

also, spl parts sells the hiem joint type endlink set for S chassis sway bars. does anyone have experience with these and if so what are your comments about the product.

I am doing this mainly becasue there has been way too many times where zilvians lurke the forums for information reguarding what others have to say about different products. i remember we opened up and thread asking to state what suspension you were runing but that didnt work out too well. it would be nice to se eppl post pics of the items they are using of and or on the car that way the NOOBs and those who are intrested in that particualr part can see what it is and have a better idea on what it does rather than psoting like crazy just to find out wha ta tension rod is used for.

also this helps those who share the same set ups fix/correct things that may be wrong with theirs. settings are welcome as well. like what degree is your camber set at, and toe, front caster, whatever you want to jot down about suspension put it in here.

brandon

[publicenemy137]

I've seen those Powertrix ones get really squeaky and stuff. They even have zerk fittings for greasing. Some of the other ones i've seen dont have them.

yep, mine :(

[Dousan_PG]

SPL makes the tension rods they sell on their site.

SPL does not make their RUCAs, IIRC they sell Cusco.


only for the s14 rucas

rear toe, forward, tc, lower arms, tie rod ends, tie rod spacers are theirs/nagisa/copy/style/whatevers

ive always used SPL for everything
my original s13 tc rods which i got what 3 years ago? are now on my s14
i have new s14 ver?? SPL ones (the newest ones) going on so i can move my s13 tc rods to my extra s13

ive used both all the s14/s13 SPL arms on both my cars. full suspension replaced minus the LCAs (all 4)

ill probably go w/ a BV lower arm thing on the s14 eventually. the add in kit
i have spl tie rod ends on my car right now



my cars have always been
spl arms
tien inner/out and now spl outters
stock LCAs


after 3 years of HARD TRACKING and daily driving both cars to work, to school, parents nor cal, oregon, seattle, Vegas, sd, la, around town, ive NEVER NEVER NEVER exprienced any suspension failure whatsoever in anyway!!!! NEVER

that says alot imo
and i used to do at least 2-3 track events each month for awhile.
plus the daily miles put on.

lately ive slowed down on events, but in 2006 im back and busy
might even do some FD feeder business ocassionally

my friends who run BV have exprienced the same. no problems.


braces, ive used Jspec brand for ladder bars (on s13), cusco front thingie, both worked fine. overkill really

keep it simple
spend more time driving then upgradign folks. you dont need a crazy set up suspension to drive well. it can make it harder actually sometimes. keep it simply upgrade AS NECESSARY if it works, USE IT and ABUSE IT.



this thread is still mega lame
haha
my alignmetn settings? haha..please there's so many threads on that already brandon! you just wanna be archived :p

[sandcrawler]

the new powertrix parts are good-- self lubricating pillowballs and rubber dust boots... also, the new T/C rods don't squeak because of the change in design

pics are in the old PT group buy thread: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84998

[theicecreamdan]

uh oh... I hope you didnt just start another dust boot thread.

[sLiDewAys]

only for the s14 rucas

this thread is still mega lame
haha
my alignmetn settings? haha..please there's so many threads on that already brandon! you just wanna be archived :p


yeah, thats TRUE:) hahaha

shuttup doshh san aaron, dont get madd. jp.

this thread is mega lame i know it. but that doesnt mean we cant try and do something positive here on zilvia. so in a sencem it has done some good.

i seen your car post on shittied.net. car is lookin dope. anyhow

back on track.

sounds good, spl parts lasting over 3 eyars w/0 and problems. + seeing they were daily driven clearns any future questions about durability.

[brainfood]

I use battle version rods for everything except traction rods. I grabbed some kazzama rods because I got a good price on it otherwise def. would have bought battleversion. SPL makes some great parts and I love some of the stuff they have done if I could afford it I would grab some adjustable lower control arms I really want a set but they are $$$. Battleversion is top notch and the customer support is great. I have also seen the cusco arms very nice and even bigger than the battleversion ruca's so if size matters to you go with cusco :naughty: But seriously any of the "quality" manufactures are great the ebay ones are loud and obnoxious I guess you get what you pay for.

[sLiDewAys]

thats awsome, BV is on buyers #1 lsit right now from the look of it.

[!Zar!]

If someone does break something then I think you should factor in customer service. Since my old s13 had damaged the whole front left and in the process breaking some of my spl parts. He was cool and offered to sell me just one that way I wouldn't have to pay for an extra I wouldn't use.

[sLiDewAys]

really? yeah i have not heard of that one before...........tein, kazzama.. not even friken phifer would do that.

[projectRDM]

The rear traction rod is designed to adjust bumpsteer, nothing else.

As far as quality, I'm currently running CTune Aerosport rear arms (all three) and have been for quite a while. Welds aren't very pretty and the finish chips off with abuse from a wrench, but they're still quiet and dirt free after two years.
I used to have Cusco parts before all the other manafacturers jumped in and one of the camber arms seized up after about a year of running it. No amount of force or heat could break it loose so I had to adjust it by unbolting one side and twisting it freely, then reinstall it and check the alignment. Not cool for a $350 pair of arms. I sold them off and bought all the CTune parts and had money leftover. To me there's a line where you've simply paid too much, and I felt I had in this case. The CTune/PowerTrix stuff definitely is not the best quality parts, but unless you're adjusting them every day and constantly in need of working them over I think they're fine. Once set there's no need to readjust. A little lithium grease keeps them dry and quiet, and I've autorossed on them hard several times without fail. Maybe if I was a gheyDM drifter and jumped curbs and hit walls like some of these kids do I might be inclined to use stronger parts, but I don't and don't see the need.

[chmercer]

another bump for SPLParts

[Mike Wazowski]

Kazama rods are manufactured by Cusco.

Put them side-by-side, you'll know what I mean.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah, c-tunes parts are decent seeing that charlie uses them at all the events with all their cars. For instance their orance WAN-via that he dries uses all c0tune components and that car is tracked at forumula D and such so id be in to use their products if its proves as it has been.

[RBS14]

SPL and BV.

Well BV in a couple weeks.

I'll be getting the SPL F&R LCA's too. The stability will be great and roll center adjustment is key.

[sLiDewAys]

what spl products are you currently using? and what battle version products will you be purchasing?

i checked out the SPL lca's for S chassis. pretty nice pieces of work i may add. what advantages for handing would be gained by using them. I'm not framilliar with this part.

[brainfood]

SPL and BV.

Well BV in a couple weeks.

I'll be getting the SPL F&R LCA's too. The stability will be great and roll center adjustment is key.


Let me know how they look and work out for you when you get them I really want a set of fronts and rears but I just cant justify the $$$ right now.

[sLiDewAys]

wow i just checked prices.... looks like ill be hoeing the city street corners tonight to come up with the fundings. but serriously look at them
Front
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/S13/Suspension/Multilink/SPLProFrontLowerArm.jpg
Rear
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLRearLowerArm.jpg


this rear subframe looks sweet.
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLProHicasEliminator2.JPG

and here is this odd subframe insert.
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLMultiLinkBushing.jpg

what advantages over spacers do these provide?

[RBS14]

Brandon: I've got SPL TC rods (old ones, love em), SPl toe links (love em too) and SPL subframe collars. I'll be getting BV RUCA's, and SPL Traction rods soon. I love SPl the most because of customer service. Unbeatable.

The adjustable LCA's allow you to adjust track width and roll center. I want them mainly for the roll center adjustment. Not to mention I can't imagine how solid the suspension will feel with all those heim joints. They restore your suspension geometry back to near stock. This gives you the correct camber arc, less bump steer (when used with the correct tie rod ends). For a good description on roll center, as well as other suspension angles and setups regarding our cars, go to Ikeya Formula's website. There's a whole writeup on it. Very cool.

I'll definately post pics and impressions when I get them. Thing is, you don't want to do just fronts or rears, so until I come up with the $$ for both, it's not getting done. Oh wells, it'll be well worth it.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah, thanks for that info scott. i understand how those LCA's work now. I remember seeing threads about using s14 lca for s13 to gain wider track and i just seen that BV offers a custom weld in similar version of the spl u nit.

how do you feel about poly urethane inserts for the LCA where it connects to the crossmember?


althogh this looks pointless, i'm currious to the gains of these;
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/S13/Suspension/Bracing/SPLSubframeBrace2.jpg

they have twenty cajillion of these but generic version on ebay that sell with their ugly strut tower bars. but what are the advantages of these rods. Honda has been using them for a few years now but this is a first for Nissan......

[Mike Wazowski]

SPL LCA's are made by Nagisa Auto aka NAMS as is their fender brace. It's annoying seeing everyone label SPL parts as SPL as they don't manufacture most of the things they label SPL.

[RBS14]

Harder plasitc/polyurethane/whatever lca bushings are great. I've got NISMO LCA bushings F&R and I like them very much. WAY stiffer than stock. I'd recommend them to everyone.

Yeah, all you have to do is look at NAMS arms and some of SPL's arms (not all of them) and it's obvious they are the same. The point is, NAMS is some of (if not THE) best multilink you can get for our cars, and SPL takes care of their customers as if they were manufacturing all of their products.

[TruckFortySX]

The rear traction rod is designed to adjust bumpsteer, nothing else.

Nothing else? So what you're saying is that the fore/aft movement of the upper pivot point of the rear hubs cannot be changed utilizing these links? View the car from the side and visualize the "caster" line drawn through the lower bj up to an imaginary point just behind the ruca/hub pivot point. By changing the inclination of this imaginary line, you are modifying anti-squat, the characteristic that resists the absorbing effect the springs' give allows. In essence, anti-squat forces the wheels to the tarmac. The Z32, S-chassis and Skylines are all notorious for having a large amount of anti-squat. Just thought I'd toss my two pennies into the Salvation Army tin, lol, sry. Late

[Tygma]

NAMs, you know that's how I do it...

[veilside180sx]

All SPL parts here. Customer service rocks.

RUCA
Toe Rods
Traction Rods
Solid Subframe Spacers
Tension Rods

http://northwestnissans.com/photopost/data/500/3509subframeside-med.jpg

Eventually a set of lower control arms if I don't just make myself a set later.

Their parts are great whether they make them or not. Either way NAMS rocks too.

[brainfood]

Brandon: I've got SPL TC rods (old ones, love em), SPl toe links (love em too) and SPL subframe collars. I'll be getting BV RUCA's, and SPL Traction rods soon. I love SPl the most because of customer service. Unbeatable.

The adjustable LCA's allow you to adjust track width and roll center. I want them mainly for the roll center adjustment. Not to mention I can't imagine how solid the suspension will feel with all those heim joints. They restore your suspension geometry back to near stock. This gives you the correct camber arc, less bump steer (when used with the correct tie rod ends). For a good description on roll center, as well as other suspension angles and setups regarding our cars, go to Ikeya Formula's website. There's a whole writeup on it. Very cool.

I'll definately post pics and impressions when I get them. Thing is, you don't want to do just fronts or rears, so until I come up with the $$ for both, it's not getting done. Oh wells, it'll be well worth it.

Yeah they are awesome, I think the track width adjustment is more of a camber adjustment since you wouldnt be adjusting track width too much without messing up the geometry again. Same with the bv weld on kits, they might fix the camber arc a little but you really need custom lower control arms with spacers between the lca and the spindle. I was looking at the Ikeya Formula lca's are the spl parts (nams) better quality? I wasnt sure because alot of people in d1 run Ikeya Formula's lca's and they get lots of abuse. Glad to see an inteligent thread on suspension geometry its hard to get any good answers on the subject in most forums. btw if you want to sell your stock lowers with the nismo bushings when you get your adjustable ones let me know I might be interested.

[chmercer]

All SPL parts here. Customer service rocks.

http://northwestnissans.com/photopost/data/500/3509subframeside-med.jpg


what subframe and spindle bushings are you using?

[sLiDewAys]

All SPL parts here. Customer service rocks.

RUCA
Toe Rods
Traction Rods
Solid Subframe Spacers
Tension Rods

http://northwestnissans.com/photopost/data/500/3509subframeside-med.jpg

Eventually a set of lower control arms if I don't just make myself a set later.

Their parts are great whether they make them or not. Either way NAMS rocks too.


this is a good example of time well spent, please do a write up when you get this installed with all impressions you can list. haha


those arent the same RUCA's listed on spl's site, either way quality looks good. i wan tto try out kts's arms since spl deals with them butif not then il lbe using what spl advirtises which is NAMS.

yeah i know jacob, nagisa nagisa nagisa why don tu talk to them abou tpartial sponsorship HAHHA maybe u can get us zilvians 30% off some day:)

[veilside180sx]

what subframe and spindle bushings are you using?

They are Energy Suspension. Although I swapped the subframe bushings for the SPL solid aluminum bushings, just forgot to snap pics before I installed the dumb things. They are a pain in the butt to install but worthwhile I feel.

The RUCA are the older purple SPL ones, but I painted them black.=) The PRO's had just come out and I was being cheap.

[dudocius]

i have Ctune, everything in the rear. they are good for the price you pay. What i did was pretty simple i couldnt stand the noise made by the heim joints so i greased them up really well, i made some rubber boots so dirt didnt get on them, i had them for a year, daily drifting the crap out of the car, and they dont me noice and they are holding up great.

[publicenemy137]

have anyone tried out the new spl tie rods? I wanna know how good they are, and compare to Tein tie rods

[brainfood]

have anyone tried out the new spl tie rods? I wanna know how good they are, and compare to Tein tie rods


problem with them is they need to use the inners and outers from them because they arent standard length and they arent anything aftermarket the inners are from a z32 I believe and they dont come with spacers.

[RBS14]

wrong. They make them for stock type tie rod inners also. And they come with a varying range of spacers to adjust bump steer.

Everyone I know who has them loves them, they are my next puchase. Get em!

[brainfood]

wrong. They make them for stock type tie rod inners also. And they come with a varying range of spacers to adjust bump steer.

Everyone I know who has them loves them, they are my next puchase. Get em!

Sorry I didnt realize they had 2 types. I was talking about steering angle spacers for their inners though. I like my kazama ones fine way better than stock.

[killjoy]

Nobody mentioned Peak Performance. They are made with great quality and Aurora rod ends, the best out there. Pics at my site below.

www.mycarsfaster.com

[DJPimpFlex]

they do have the steering angle spacer. There sold seperatly for like $10 or something.

[sLiDewAys]

how about nismo power brace VS. cusco tension mid bar?

again

cost vs. quality product but in this argument we are comparing 2 quality made parts.

[Dr.Baby]

nismo
hands down.

[EchoOfSilence]

how about nismo power brace VS. cusco tension mid bar?

again

cost vs. quality product but in this argument we are comparing 2 quality made parts.
the power brace is welded. and the frame-pieces are the stock ones with plates welded onto them for added stiffness and stability.

[Brian]

I have the Nismo power brace AND the CUsco tension rod bracket bar thing.
I don't really know WHY I have both on there... but I do.

[EchoOfSilence]

I have the Nismo power brace AND the CUsco tension rod bracket bar thing.
I don't really know WHY I have both on there... but I do.
WTF? i thought you COULDN'T do that?

[sLiDewAys]

okay, solution to chaply made non teflon coated spherical joins?

there are some places online that sell just hte HIEM joint itself and also deal with dust boots. for parts like deluboxparts adn ctune which do not come teflon coated WE CAN CHANGE that. but i had a question.

does the actual part itself fail besides the hiem joint?

[sLiDewAys]

The rear traction rod is designed to adjust bumpsteer, nothing else.

As far as quality, I'm currently running CTune Aerosport rear arms (all three) and have been for quite a while. Welds aren't very pretty and the finish chips off with abuse from a wrench, but they're still quiet and dirt free after two years.
.



can anyone else vouch for this?

[RBS14]

yeah, when adjusted with the toe links, you can reduce bumpsteer.

as for ctune/ebay/shittastic arms. I won't buy them. they use the cheapest possible heim joints that are cast (not good for racing use at all, much more prone to failure) and they're the weirdest thread pitch possible. So if you break one you're fucked for finding a new one.

If they used a common thread pitch, I'd buy all of them and just throw some FK ends in them.

I figure I can afford to have knock off shit like a header break, but not suspension arms.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah good point scott.

u read that you stated most of them use a weird uncommon thread pitch for their hiem joins and that FK makes quality ones. do they have a site and do u know if Ctunes links use these uncommonly used parts?

also how do u feel about project nissans, they come coated NOTS HURE IF THEY ARE CAST but they also come with dust boots!

[BOROSUN]

i thought it was wheel hop? not bumpsteer... o

[Alan_no.1]

battle version,battle version,battle version.........
I love it

[sykikchimp]

99% of the people on this board will never use these adjsutable arms to the full extent of their potential, and as such, do not need them.

If you want them so you are the cool kid at your next meet.. by all means go ahead. Conversations about all your fun adjustable expensive arms are always enjoyable.

If you need camber adjustment in the back, get the cheapest upper arms you can get. Maybe get those t/c rods too. Those are really the only useful parts for most people. One or two track/drift events a year isn't gonna hurt them. Especially if you aren't running race tires.

This does not apply to the 1% (or less) of you that actually race and understand race car dynamics.

IMO, unless your car spends more time at the track than on the streets these arms are a waste of money.

[RBS14]

^^^^^^

I definately agree.

Well said.

[Ghettokracker71]

Coming on this thread alittle late,I don't feel like reading everybodys post.

I don't drift,I just run the absolute dog piss out of my car on the street,and I do mean beat the SHIT out of it. Go ahead and tell me how dangerous it is,I have more then a perfectly clean record,I get a discount for my squeakity clean record. Anyway, I run battle version RUCAs, I really like them. If i ever get around to it,I want their forward arm links