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idiot goes sideways
11-01-2005, 08:18 AM
What front lip is this?
Is it OEM, aftermarket or a modified one from another Car? :yum:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/linigel/good3.jpg

ScottMan
11-01-2005, 08:21 AM
That looks like the Xenon lip that was offered by Nissan Motorsports (not NISMO I don't think) for a while.

blackflag_Rms13
11-01-2005, 09:46 AM
Ya, +1 for Xenon lip... Who's car is that BTW, thats something like i want mine to look when I'm done...

mistaanime
11-01-2005, 09:59 AM
yea xenon lip..hard to get a hold of..then i thoguht bout getting this one..from PDM

http://pdm-racing.com/products/imag/April1esmall.jpg

AllenRPS13
11-01-2005, 11:41 AM
+1 for xenon also, i am planning to get this also...

idiot goes sideways
11-01-2005, 11:47 AM
hard to find??!!! (thats bad) :cry:
no chance to get it? there must be a way (cause i want that front lip) :axe:

does nobody know where to find that lip? :yum:

mistaanime
11-01-2005, 11:50 AM
i think xenon Discontinued it...not too sure tho. btw..it's almost like a zenki lip anyway...juss get that for about 80 for a good condition one..and its durable

idiot goes sideways
11-01-2005, 01:24 PM
i searched google for it, but found nothing with xenon, stillen, nismo ore nissan motorsport as keywords!!??!
damn!!!!
want it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bite:

reefer1114
11-01-2005, 01:27 PM
thye threw away the mold...

.::SR20_240::.
11-01-2005, 02:02 PM
hard to find??!!! (thats bad) :cry:
no chance to get it? there must be a way (cause i want that front lip) :axe:

does nobody know where to find that lip? :yum:

www.speedalliance.com <-- email them the pic thay have that same lip, in fact i think thay make them or something like that...

NeedCAforS13
11-01-2005, 03:04 PM
I have a nissan motorsports lip (made by xenon) got the last two in Nissan NA's inventory... 4 years ago! haha bitches. thing was cheap back then too. paid $175 for mine. Sold my second one 2 years ago for $250. try finding a xenon retailer, they might have one in stock, but these things are rare as hell. Never seen another one in person, and only seen about 4 in pictures.

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/500/4134mine5.jpg

hi.im.kaji
11-01-2005, 04:28 PM
that lip is badass.....anybody have a pic of it painted?

Bushido
11-01-2005, 05:54 PM
supposedly theres a guy on this forum thats going to be making fiberglass copies soon. he already made a fg lip for the kouki s14 and it looks like good quality... we'll have to see what happens.

silviaz
11-01-2005, 07:13 PM
fiberglass...... damn this thing won't last

TougeRacing
11-01-2005, 07:24 PM
thats squalsme car, its a xenon lip.

FaLKoN240
11-01-2005, 07:25 PM
This is like the THOUSANDTH time I've seen this kinda thread on Zilvia. It's been gone over like. . .a billion times.

Then NeedCA18 comes in and says "Looky what I got." Then some idiot will ask him, "Can we use yours to make a fiberglass mold?"

Then he will respond "No, because it will ruin it."

Lock this shit.

squalsme
11-01-2005, 07:26 PM
hey! thats my car. and yes, thats a xenon lip. its hard to find, but i think someone from vtuned is trying to replicate it. check out www.norcal240.com they have info on it somewhere. auto RnD is suppose to replicate it too, but i think they got too lazy.

NeedCAforS13
11-01-2005, 07:59 PM
that lip is badass.....anybody have a pic of it painted?

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/500/4134painted_lip.jpg

NeedCAforS13
11-01-2005, 08:00 PM
This is like the THOUSANDTH time I've seen this kinda thread on Zilvia. It's been gone over like. . .a billion times.

Then NeedCA18 comes in and says "Looky what I got." Then some idiot will ask him, "Can we use yours to make a fiberglass mold?"

Then he will respond "No, because it will ruin it."

Lock this shit.

quit yer bitchin. ;)

bing
11-01-2005, 09:59 PM
i called Xenon directly a few years back, they still have the mold and will make it for you but it will be like $275 USD plus a llong ass wait period.

get a bunch of dudes together and do a buy. its simple as that,

if the lip were Fibreglass it would be ghey, the only thing that makes it cool is that it is urethane. it isnt like it actually looks good or anything, it looks like the home depot $hit people make for their S13's.

nissantuner22
11-01-2005, 10:00 PM
must..have...this lip.

180sxdrifter
11-01-2005, 10:13 PM
someone should work with a groupbuy

I'm in! :yum:

YellwMonky
11-01-2005, 10:17 PM
I have a nissan motorsports lip (made by xenon) got the last two in Nissan NA's inventory... 4 years ago! haha bitches. thing was cheap back then too. paid $175 for mine. Sold my second one 2 years ago for $250. try finding a xenon retailer, they might have one in stock, but these things are rare as hell. Never seen another one in person, and only seen about 4 in pictures.

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/500/4134mine5.jpg

what's up with the fitment? lip looks good, but fitment seems to look like ass.?

BaliLover
11-01-2005, 10:39 PM
The Xenon lip is NO longer available. I called (within the past 6 months) every Xenon dealer I could find, and Xenon themselves, and after being sent a lip for a pignose and shipping it back, was informed that they no longer had the mold to make them for the chuki bumper, that it had been destroyed, and that they had no plans to make them again. I ate a $40 restocking fee to find that out. ON a side note, you can still get the urethane sideskirts from Xenon if you want, just no Chuki front lip.

240SeXy!
11-02-2005, 12:38 AM
If someone where to make a new mold or copy one ^ , damn I could see some money making in the future... hahahah :hsdance: :hammer:

91CRXsiR
11-02-2005, 01:21 AM
i also have the pignose lip... i wonder if i could cut it and turn into the chuki version.. hmmmm

SRkouki
11-02-2005, 02:01 AM
http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/500/4134painted_lip.jpg
daaaamn that lip really does wonders for that bumper.

NeedCAforS13
11-02-2005, 08:10 AM
YellwMonky, fitament is awesome, I just don't have much holding mine on... 2 bolts and 2 zipties, so there's nothing holding the sides to the bumper so it kinda sags out. It hits everything, so I didn't really want it firmly attached. It used to be double sided taped to the side pieces on my bumper, but it broke the bumper pieces off. After that I never reattached it.

Jcb890
11-02-2005, 09:14 AM
i called Xenon directly a few years back, they still have the mold and will make it for you but it will be like $275 USD plus a llong ass wait period.

get a bunch of dudes together and do a buy. its simple as that,

if the lip were Fibreglass it would be ghey, the only thing that makes it cool is that it is urethane. it isnt like it actually looks good or anything, it looks like the home depot $hit people make for their S13's.

actually, that is a really nice looking lip. nice and subtle. no gay flares or retarded looking holes in it. i like it. its a nice tasteful mod unlike many of the other lips and front bumpers.

180sxdrifter
11-03-2005, 10:30 PM
i also have the pignose lip... i wonder if i could cut it and turn into the chuki version.. hmmmm


mines pretty flush dont ya think

http://www.importfanatix.com/Forums/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=56

:squintd:

FaLKoN240
11-03-2005, 10:36 PM
Did you cut that? How did you do it? Any pics, or a write up? I have a zenki lip in my garage. But if I can make it look like that, I may keep it.

SoSideways
11-04-2005, 12:25 AM
Why must zenki lip droop down in the front while going up on the sides like that? Makes the whole front look droopy from the side... argh...

Other than that, looks hawt from front.

sw20>>s14
11-04-2005, 12:48 AM
yeah...S14.5 on here, or S14.5 [V-Tun'd] on norcal240sx.net, or virgil to normal people could probably replicate it pretty well...if you guys let him know, he'll probably look into it...hes always lookin for ideas...he could serve all you xenon horny fellers up...dont expect anytime soon though because he just started up...

good quality shit:
http://h2fparts.com/RPS13_1.jpg
http://h2fparts.com/RPS13_2.jpg
and for comparison:
http://h2fparts.com/Shift_Sports_1.jpg

more info can be found @ norcal240sx.net
i hope you dont mine me using the pics V...

SoSideways
11-04-2005, 12:54 AM
Is that a copy of the Veilside lip? Or Bomex?

Holy crap I need to sleep, can't think...

dvdevo
11-04-2005, 02:08 AM
looks liek the veilside lip, not sure. Looks nice though.

i8yourfwd
11-04-2005, 02:23 AM
hey! thats my car. and yes, thats a xenon lip. its hard to find, but i think someone from vtuned is trying to replicate it. check out www.norcal240.com they have info on it somewhere. auto RnD is suppose to replicate it too, but i think they got too lazy.
Yep, this is true.

The lip is going to be released this saturday at a meet. I'll post up pics here when I get them..

yeah...S14.5 on here, or S14.5 [V-Tun'd] on norcal240sx.net, or virgil to normal people could probably replicate it pretty well...if you guys let him know, he'll probably look into it...hes always lookin for ideas...he could serve all you xenon horny fellers up...dont expect anytime soon though because he just started up...

Yeah, the lip is gonna look awesome. It's only available to norcal240sx.net members at the time. I'm not sure if he'll be shipping eigher.

dudocius
12-05-2005, 11:59 AM
i found one at the junkyard, 10 bucks is what i paid for it. I cleaned it and man that thing is hot.

bing
12-05-2005, 01:00 PM
i've already made like 20 of those veilside lips

lip on my car VVV

http://www.bings.ca/store/images/product/aero_1.jpg

i have a whole bunch at my place now if anyone wants them...lol... i keep an inventory because i've broken a few already beyond repair...lol

jjwilks240
12-05-2005, 02:25 PM
bing's are great lips. it took a summer beating, and i mean a big beating. before i destroyed it. i ran it over, put it into ditches, wheel fell off on the highway and it slid on it for 50meters, popped off on the track countless times.
bings versions are strong as fuck!

http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jjwilks/IMGP1530.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jjwilks/Picture159.jpg

looks 1000x better than that zenki shit i used to have on my car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jjwilks/IMGP1048.jpg

HyperTek
12-05-2005, 03:06 PM
i still perfer zenki lip tho,,, but these things get beat up and trashed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/s13s2.jpg

i8yourfwd
12-05-2005, 05:31 PM
i've already made like 20 of those veilside lips

lip on my car VVV

i have a whole bunch at my place now if anyone wants them...lol... i keep an inventory because i've broken a few already beyond repair...lol
What did you make them out of? FRP? And how much would you sell the lips for?

bing
12-05-2005, 05:52 PM
well the problem is shipping.

i have to make a nice big box for it and every quote that i have obtained thus far is $100 usd to ship it, which is pure buttsex... like boy on boy, not the happy boy on girl kind.

and that is a bargain considering the box itself is not cheap.

240trainee
12-05-2005, 09:51 PM
well the problem is shipping.

i have to make a nice big box for it and every quote that i have obtained thus far is $100 usd to ship it, which is pure buttsex... like boy on boy, not the happy boy on girl kind.

and that is a bargain considering the box itself is not cheap.

Thats what I figured, shipping would be a pita, or I would buy one on the spot. Maybe when I get some more cash. They look really nice.:bigok:

eidt: This new in post editing feature is sweet!!!

bing
12-06-2005, 06:37 AM
What did you make them out of? FRP? And how much would you sell the lips for?

i dont make them personally, i have them made.

they are hand-laid fibreglass, and they take abouta full day to make because they cure in the mold over night.

here is a short and crappy video showing the flexibility:

http://bings.ca/videos/MOV01791-1.wmv

of course that was the first lip so it was a little better, if you try that with the other ones you'll hear some glass splitting, but you probably should anyways.

as for fitment, if you have two people it taks all of 10 seconds, as shown here:

http://bings.ca/videos/bings%20lip%20install-1.wmv

jesse ran his for 7 months or so without a single ziptie or screw. it flew off his car mid-drift at 60kph and survived unscathed, but that doesnt mean it will do the same for you.. man i wish i had the camera rolling for that... it was crazy

KwKouki
12-06-2005, 07:17 AM
Bing the fitment video is fucking incredible! Man I wanted one when I still had my coupe.

srpwrd
12-06-2005, 07:52 AM
I had bings lip as well. I couldn't be more happy with it, but I just ripped it off a couple of weeks ago.. lowered 240's with lips don't like going off roading.

I would recomend his lip to anyone. fitment is excellent, quality of material is excellent, and it's the best looking s13 lip to date, imo. I can't understand why veilside stoped producing them. :wtf:

i8yourfwd
12-06-2005, 12:06 PM
I finally got a hold of Virgil from V-tun'd who was making lips for my site. I'll get some pictures when I get a lip from him.

bing
12-06-2005, 04:01 PM
I would recomend his lip to anyone. fitment is excellent, quality of material is excellent, and it's the best looking s13 lip to date, imo. I can't understand why veilside stoped producing them. :wtf:

apparently they didnt, but they dont stock it.

its the same case as with most of the geniune stuff.

its marginally better, maybe, but you have to pay more and wait 4 times longer to get it.

enter the knock off.

bing
12-06-2005, 04:03 PM
i'll also be the first to say that the Veilside lip was good, it fit even tight than the one i make.

it also had an extra lip underneath the mouth for support.

it wasnt as flexible, it was stiffer which is probably better for fitment but worse for contact.

WDS13
12-06-2005, 07:50 PM
oh damn! i want one of bing's lips!

dudocius
12-08-2005, 10:06 AM
i am also thinking on making my own, i might start selling them local only. My Girls dad is a Fiberglass engineer and he builds boats he will provide me with the supplies at the same price he pays for them. I will let you guys know how it goes.

FaLKoN240
12-08-2005, 12:08 PM
i found one at the junkyard, 10 bucks is what i paid for it. I cleaned it and man that thing is hot.

I need to start searching the yards again.

SoSideways
12-08-2005, 02:09 PM
I found a pretty beat up looking zenki lip yesterday, but running that lip pretty much prevents your car from driven anywhere when you're slammed (my car is not slammed at the moment, but it will be soon), so I left it there at the yard.

exitspeed
12-08-2005, 02:19 PM
I found a pretty beat up looking zenki lip yesterday, but running that lip pretty much prevents your car from driven anywhere when you're slammed (my car is not slammed at the moment, but it will be soon), so I left it there at the yard.

WHY would you leave it? Man you coulda probably got it for $20 and sold it for $75 and mad a quick buck. Man if I ever find another I'm stantchin it up. I'd stockpile those badboys if I could.

quach
12-08-2005, 06:15 PM
hey bing, i really like that lip, do you have any available to sell? and how much do you sell them for? im from the bay area so i can pick up if youre within an hour or so drive.

i8yourfwd
12-08-2005, 06:25 PM
hey bing, i really like that lip, do you have any available to sell? and how much do you sell them for? im from the bay area so i can pick up if youre within an hour or so drive.
Canada is a little more than an hour drive ;)

SoSideways
12-08-2005, 06:31 PM
WHY would you leave it? Man you coulda probably got it for $20 and sold it for $75 and mad a quick buck. Man if I ever find another I'm stantchin it up. I'd stockpile those badboys if I could.

Because I went to the yard for a door handle, and it looked like it could start pouring the rain any second, and the nuts were hard as hell to take off on the friggin lip.

I was hurrying so much that I forgot to snatch the power door lock solenoid from the passenger door. That should tell you something.

bing
12-08-2005, 07:58 PM
hey bing, i really like that lip, do you have any available to sell? and how much do you sell them for? im from the bay area so i can pick up if youre within an hour or so drive.


yeah man,

i have 3 sitting here right now.

but shipping is expensive, if you are ready to take it on i can ship anytime.

quach
12-09-2005, 02:56 AM
haha oops, for some reason i thought you were in the bay. sorry about that. i probably shouldnt be spending so much money on my car these days anyways, so i'll pass for now. that's a great looking lip though!

SoSideways
12-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Oh, I wanted to ask this before but had forgotten until one of the random posts above reminded me.

Do you have to trim the lip any for a FMIC? I had to trim quite a bit out of the stock bumper to get the FMIC on there, so... yeah....

originalsin
12-09-2005, 12:59 PM
heres a diff one http://www.bings.ca/store/images/product/aero_1.jpg

http://www.bings.ca/?page=products&pageNum=2&search=

bing
12-09-2005, 01:19 PM
yes, i have an HKS type S fmic and i had a Greddy VSPL on my old coupe, both times the lip needed to be trimmed about an inch or so.

the amount by which you have to trim will depend on your particular IC though.

its not a big deal to trim

bing
12-09-2005, 01:21 PM
ack...

originalsin, u r teh slow, stick to nyspeed...lol

chrisngo
02-21-2006, 06:41 PM
I hope I haven't resurrected a "dead" thread.

I have three of these lips in my warehouse. It has all the hardware taped to it too.

*that would be the lip from post #1 on page 1 of this thread.

Chris
[email protected]

swifty949
02-23-2006, 04:43 PM
apparently they didnt, but they dont stock it.

its the same case as with most of the geniune stuff.

its marginally better, maybe, but you have to pay more and wait 4 times longer to get it.

enter the knock off.

hmm weird, i've had 2 original veilside ones in stock for over a year.
Hey Chris I thought SA was against the knockoffs?

Ray aka Professor

chrisngo
02-23-2006, 04:53 PM
hmm weird, i've had 2 original veilside ones in stock for over a year.
Hey Chris I thought SA was against the knockoffs?

Ray aka Professor

Yeah I hate dead stock.

Yes we are against knockoffs. The Nissan Motorsports lip apparently is an original design.

I will sell knock off's, don't get me wrong, but the customer MUST demand it. I will never recommend it.

In an industry that's as volatile as the aftermarket auto industry...you gotta make your money where you can. I know you can agree with that.

Chris

DeBastaard
02-25-2006, 11:27 AM
Howmuch for one of these incl. shipping towards the netherlands?

And howmuch if I could convice some dutch SX owners of buying one as well?

S14DB
02-25-2006, 02:13 PM
I hope I haven't resurrected a "dead" thread.
You have, to sell stuff. Not good.