Tired of the non-street racing crowd

[Griffon2k]

I posted this in a reply to another message, but felt the whole forum should also see it.

"I see a lot of people in here "not endorsing street racing" You all sound like the damn public service announcement they put on the "Fast and the Furious" dvd. My take is that most of you take that attitude because you have been either stopped by the cops or got a suspended license. It seems strange to me that you all speak about how fast your car is or will be and then contra*dick* yourselves talking about how you don't promote street racing. Come on, you know you enjoy the thrill of making some young punk with a stock 98 Dodge Neon drop his jaw after watching you walk his sorry ass down for having the audacity to revv at you, when all you were trying to do was go home and wash your car so you can truly enjoy the great job of tuning you put to the nissan masterpiece we call the 240sx.....ok maybe that's just me, but I know for a fact that as much as you all bitch and complain about how bad street racing is, your mouth drools whenever you hear that young idiot revving alongside your happy ass at a traffic light. My advice, be real, stop fronting, you enjoy street racing and you know it. You don't like getting pulled over or losing your license or wrecking your car, hell none of us do. so to prevent that, get up off your ass, invest in some good brakes, a radar detector, and some above amatuer driving skills, pick your balls up off the gravel and be a damn man. ENJOY YOUR CAR!!!!!"

[KiDyNomiTe]

ya didnt have to make a whole new thing, now your gonna have a bunch of people reading your post twice, and that will tick everyone off.

[MorganS13]

Auto-X. i like having affordable insurance.....

EDIT:  plus our cars aren't "street demons" when it comes to straight line.  i go to "organized" street races all the time so don't think i'm all innocent.  i'd rather watch Supra TTs, RX7s, 300TTs, F-bodys, etc. who have experience race rather than amateurs riskin everyone elses life.  also i think what u're referring to is more like spirited driving right?

[s15dude]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MorganS13 @ May 06 2002,4:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Auto-X. i like having affordable insurance.....

EDIT: plus our cars aren't "street demons" when it comes to straight line. i go to "organized" street races all the time so don't think i'm all innocent. i'd rather watch Supra TTs, RX7s, 300TTs, F-bodys, etc. who have experience race rather than amateurs riskin everyone elses life. also i think what u're referring to is more like spirited driving right?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
How do you know that the drivers of the Supras, RX7's, 300ZX's and F-bodys are good drivers? Most of the people I know that street race tose kinds of cars are spoiled punk kids that do risk everyones life. But yeah everyone has prolly raced some guy at a stop light at least once, but after youv'e gotten a ticket, or grown up you get over it and it loses intrest.

[onebadm5]

people are morons. live and learn...

[240sxspeedracer1]

good point that 15dude said. &nbsp;I guess at a certain point in life, u have kids, grow up, and not really enjoy the racing scene like they used to.
I personally love the street racing scene and go to the illegals every weekend, hell, I just presented a powerpoint presenatin to my cis class promoting it.
Everybody has their own ideas about street racing, but what the hell, I love it and will continue doing it till I decide its not for me anymore. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[Coldsun]

Listen man, its time for the Sun to lay it down....

Street racing is fun, Racing at the track is fun, which is more fun? that depends on the person i guess... But i'll tell you this, at the track you dont have to worry about cops, cats running in the road, hitting a old lady ect....

I like to street race, but i take it easy because when it comes down to it , its illegal and dangerous...I think that its one of the grittiest forms of racing though ya know... you see another fast car... give him the look, and your off, no words , no names, no shit talking...its fun its a rush i can't deny

so yea if so dude pulls up to me in his civic,240sx,sentra whatever the hell and is revving at me , grilling me, ect... and i think we are on a safe road and there are no visable dangers i might go for it, no doubt... But for the most part i try to take it easy...

Basically man, no one can tell people not to street race, it will always be around...i dont think the people that are against street racing dont think its fun/are scared of cops/have a suspended DL or whatever... i jus think they understand that someone could die, or someone innocent can get in the way... The main thing is, Be safe, and use your noodle kids.... Its like smoking crack , you gotta figure out if the rush is really worth it....... Ok so its not really like smoking CRACK, but you get the idea ..lol
-Sun

[MorganS13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (s15dude @ May 05 2002,7:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MorganS13 @ May 06 2002,4:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Auto-X. i like having affordable insurance.....

EDIT: plus our cars aren't "street demons" when it comes to straight line. i go to "organized" street races all the time so don't think i'm all innocent. i'd rather watch Supra TTs, RX7s, 300TTs, F-bodys, etc. who have experience race rather than amateurs riskin everyone elses life. also i think what u're referring to is more like spirited driving right?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

How do you know that the drivers of the Supras, RX7's, 300ZX's and F-bodys are good drivers? Most of the people I know that street race tose kinds of cars are spoiled punk kids that do risk everyones life. But yeah everyone has prolly raced some guy at a stop light at least once, but after youv'e gotten a ticket, or grown up you get over it and it loses intrest.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yea, i was more refering to certain individuals i know that own those cars, they are in their late 20s or 30s and have at least some track experience. sorry i should've worded it better. the races i stay at are the ones that the spoiled kids are kept out of from at least racing in. and yea i used to do the stoplight to stoplight thing too, its just not my priority anymore. every once in a while i'll give a guy a run if he wants to go but i don't cruise around lookin for it, thats what i'm sayin...

just to clarify, i DO go to street races every weekend, but theres a difference between a bunch of teenagers with riced out cars and people with "fast" cars goin at it for cash and/or respect. we had a big street racing scene here about a year ago that got too much publicity and got stopped real fast, hundreds of cars with too many kids doin stupid stuff. street racing is a fact of life....

[DSC]

I'm against street racing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> I have never been caught doing it...because I never have. I've been revved at...just like whatever dude, fuck off...he spins tires and finally takes off while I'm just driving like a normal person. &nbsp;Sure I'll go for a spirited drive once in a while when there's nobody around but i'm still never going more than 10 (15 on accident) miles an hour over...because my spirited driving is mostly turning.

I don't think there is (much) harm in the little race up to 60 from a stop light against your friend or some punk revving at you. Its the highway battles that i'm REALLY against. The higher speed races through traffic or not through traffic. I'm also 100% against the organized street racing where there are crouds. Even pro's mess up and its always possible to hurt or kill someone else...don't much care about the driver since they've accepted [hopefully] the risk involved.

I'm NOT being PC, this is just how I feel. I think racing or drifting should be kept to designated areas (drag strip, auto-x parking lot, road course, closed mountian road (solo-1 hillclimb or rally), ect, ect...)

[my240likenoother]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 05 2002,9:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm against street racing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> I have never been caught doing it...because I never have. I've been revved at...just like whatever dude, fuck off...he spins tires and finally takes off while I'm just driving like a normal person. Sure I'll go for a spirited drive once in a while when there's nobody around but i'm still never going more than 10 (15 on accident) miles an hour over...because my spirited driving is mostly turning.

I don't think there is (much) harm in the little race up to 60 from a stop light against your friend or some punk revving at you. Its the highway battles that i'm REALLY against. The higher speed races through traffic or not through traffic. I'm also 100% against the organized street racing where there are crouds. Even pro's mess up and its always possible to hurt or kill someone else...don't much care about the driver since they've accepted [hopefully] the risk involved.

I'm NOT being PC, this is just how I feel. I think racing or drifting should be kept to designated areas (drag strip, auto-x parking lot, road course, closed mountian road (solo-1 hillclimb or rally), ect, ect...)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i hear that 100% i will go from a stop up to like 60 but the highway is bad news
and back road racing is pritty dangrous too trees is the main concern

[BlackS14]

Wow bro....need help getting your panties out of the wad they seem to be in?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I also have to assume most enjoy thier fair share of street racing encounters, but at the same time are smart enough to realize that there are just too many unpredictable elements involved when participating in it. Calling it "fronting" as you say, is utterly naive on your part. I don't mean to flame, but faulting folks who aren't exactly gung ho on encouraging illegal racing is silly.

I again will state that I have done my fair share of street racing, but tend to stay away from it as much as possible.....I can say that I never looked for it...they usually find me...and even then I don't waste my time.....beginning to contradict myslef. I'm more or less just trying to express points for both sides.....

bottom line is that it all boils down to ones preference....can't change that....


-Bill

[guidot]

I hear you DSC, after a long battle where my g/f had an illness (in which she had to take blood thinners) I realize now that if I ever did crash or someone crashes into here...she could die on the scene...i hate that thought...
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[SR20Fastback]

For most people its just a phase that they will grow out of just as soon as they see what can actually come of street racing. It might not necessarily be you that does something wrong, but when you see someone crash and die, it changes your perspective on a lot of things you do like street racing, or driving like a retard.

[DrLove82]

I don't think anyone is condemning torching a ricer at a stoplight. &nbsp; The crap on the highway and the "organized" stuff with crowds is beyond stupid. &nbsp;What would be sooo bad about going to a legitimate track? &nbsp;I mean, stop and think. &nbsp;I used to ignore it and hope some "thinning of the heard" would occur, but innocent people could get hurt. &nbsp;I'll shut up now and hope natural selection takes over &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'>

[MorganS13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DrLove82 @ May 05 2002,11:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think anyone is condemning torching a ricer at a stoplight. The crap on the highway and the "organized" stuff with crowds is beyond stupid. What would be sooo bad about going to a legitimate track? I mean, stop and think. I used to ignore it and hope some "thinning of the heard" would occur, but innocent people could get hurt. I'll shut up now and hope natural selection takes over <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the "organized" stuff i was refering to was a long lit industrial road with a some people watchin from a perpendicular road 300 yards away (that is not a typo). and a flagger in his car sitting off to the side that flashes across the road to signal go. there are maybe 20-30 cars total, all part of a local car club that meet up to chill and talk and relax. i hope u were not tryin to imply that i was talking about one of those 2 lane races with spectators lined up on each side. i'm not an idiot, i never race because i dont' wanna abuse my car and its more fun to watch faster cars (WITH experienced drivers) go, its just a good time to chill. an example of this was a couple weeks ago when 3 cars showed up that we did not know or were not expecting, so everyone just calmly left because we did not wanna be responsible for anything they mgiht have caused. this probably wasn't what u were thinkin of with street racing but the cops don't come and when they do, they usually don't even care because its isolated. just tryin to clear this up...

EDIT: &nbsp;street racing has been going on since cars were invented. &nbsp;its NEVER going to go away so u might as well deal with it. &nbsp;maybe after world hunger is solved we can figure out this problem &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[DSC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MorganS13 @ May 06 2002,12:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...its NEVER going to go away so u might as well deal with it. maybe after world hunger is solved we can figure out this problem <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, good point. &nbsp;
What you described is definately better than a lot of street racing thats around like "theres some traffic and its dark but i'm gona honk 3 times and then we will race up to 110, cool?" &nbsp;WTF, how dumb (or irresponsible to be nicer) can you get?

Also, why are all the new people like Griffon2k already bitching when they've not even been her a month? &nbsp;Its rather annoying...

[DrLove82]

The stuff on the industrial road doesn't really bother me. I was aiming more at the stuff that happens on public roads while other people are driving (like DSC was talking about). I didn't mean to include you, the event you described seemed sensible. Didn't mean to imply anything about you <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> , just those damn APC/neon light/decal stealing punks that make everyone else look bad...

[misnomer]

Lack of respect for other people, the car, the law, and the road. A test of accelleration is pushing it, but I won't say I haven't done it. Freeway onramp up to 70 or 80, ending when you merge, but dipping and diving between cars going 110 is ludicrous. I'd say I don't care about you getting killed doing that shit, but you could hurt somebody else- that is where the line needs to be drawn. I haven't been stopped by the cops, have a single demerrit on my license. Suspended licenses and tickets are nothing. You don't need to risk yours and others' lives to enjoy your car.

You're how old, Griffon, 16? 17? hell, I'm 19 and have for the most part grown out of it. Regardless you're new to the forum and should get a feel for it before spouting off like that. Zilvia is an information forum, very few posts of people bragging about how fast their car is, how good a driver they are, how they perform in bed. . . You like racing? Get up off your ass, invest in a helmet, some time at the track, and really test your driving skills. Let your balls drop before talking about being a man.

[SR20Fastback]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ May 06 2002,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...Let your balls drop before talking about being a man.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol oh thats golden, Im going to have to add that to my list of classical phrases.

[tnord]

tsk tsk you guys, remember what your mother told you, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all

[s15dude]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MorganS13 @ May 06 2002,9:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DrLove82 @ May 05 2002,11:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think anyone is condemning torching a ricer at a stoplight. The crap on the highway and the "organized" stuff with crowds is beyond stupid. What would be sooo bad about going to a legitimate track? I mean, stop and think. I used to ignore it and hope some "thinning of the heard" would occur, but innocent people could get hurt. I'll shut up now and hope natural selection takes over <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the "organized" stuff i was refering to was a long lit industrial road with a some people watchin from a perpendicular road 300 yards away (that is not a typo). and a flagger in his car sitting off to the side that flashes across the road to signal go. there are maybe 20-30 cars total, all part of a local car club that meet up to chill and talk and relax. i hope u were not tryin to imply that i was talking about one of those 2 lane races with spectators lined up on each side. i'm not an idiot, i never race because i dont' wanna abuse my car and its more fun to watch faster cars (WITH experienced drivers) go, its just a good time to chill. an example of this was a couple weeks ago when 3 cars showed up that we did not know or were not expecting, so everyone just calmly left because we did not wanna be responsible for anything they mgiht have caused. this probably wasn't what u were thinkin of with street racing but the cops don't come and when they do, they usually don't even care because its isolated. just tryin to clear this up...

EDIT: street racing has been going on since cars were invented. its NEVER going to go away so u might as well deal with it. maybe after world hunger is solved we can figure out this problem <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I bet if any of you have parents that were into cars they will say that there was alot of street racing while they were growing up. &nbsp;Cuz I assume that most of the people on this board have middle to late age parents who prolly had some sort of muscle car when they were younger. The only difference now is that the cities are so much more populated, that it is way more dangerous. Also, the Human race is very competitive, and as long as there are cars, people will try to see who's is fastest. So there will always be illegal racing. I'll admit it, I've been to the illegals, never raced, well once but thats a different story, and I have played around with the occasional civic, but I have gotten 3 speeding tickets since then, and 2 close friends have been busted for street racing, one a member of this board lost his car for a month. I consider myself lucky that I was never caught and never hurt anyone or damaged anything, but I haven't raced around or illegaly raced in about 7 months. &nbsp;I'm really glad to see that we will have a chance to track our cars at the convention this summer, and think that it will be a great experience, and I also plan to go to the legal drags this summer as well. Sorry for the long post and singaling you out Morgans13, but every kid around here with car that nice/fast is spoiled and can't drive for shit and usually ends up crashing it and jacking up our insurance rates.

[onebadm5]

street racing is the least of our problems. i mean come on, theres other crap we can pre-occupy ourselves with. and all the new age kids act as if they discovered it. We all owe (or condemn) the invention of street racing to one street: Woodward Ave. 4 lanes, 20 miles long, and no cops. originally it started out as cruising, but in '64, with the release of John Delorean and Jim Wangers' collorative effort, the GTO, performance was on the minds of buyers. hell, street racing used to be FACTORY SUPPORTED back in the sixties, u never knew id it was some punk kid behind the wheel of a slant six camaro or a GM engineer doing some "testing" of a one off raspy ass solid lifter 427 equipped camaro. yeah, i know its boring, but in effect, hi performance in america was born then, and without it i dont think we'd have any of the cars we see today. i happened to read "Glory Days", and i am hopped up on all the knowledge from back in the good ol' days...

[DuffMan]

Street racing is pretty safe unless your a moron.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Griffon2k @ May 06 2002,5:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I posted this in a reply to another message, but felt the whole forum should also see it.

"I see a lot of people in here "not endorsing street racing" You all sound like the damn public service announcement they put on the "Fast and the Furious" dvd. My take is that most of you take that attitude because you have been either stopped by the cops or got a suspended license. It seems strange to me that you all speak about how fast your car is or will be and then contra*dick* yourselves talking about how you don't promote street racing. Come on, you know you enjoy the thrill of making some young punk with a stock 98 Dodge Neon drop his jaw after watching you walk his sorry ass down for having the audacity to revv at you, when all you were trying to do was go home and wash your car so you can truly enjoy the great job of tuning you put to the nissan masterpiece we call the 240sx.....ok maybe that's just me, but I know for a fact that as much as you all bitch and complain about how bad street racing is, your mouth drools whenever you hear that young idiot revving alongside your happy ass at a traffic light. My advice, be real, stop fronting, you enjoy street racing and you know it. You don't like getting pulled over or losing your license or wrecking your car, hell none of us do. so to prevent that, get up off your ass, invest in some good brakes, a radar detector, and some above amatuer driving skills, pick your balls up off the gravel and be a damn man. ENJOY YOUR CAR!!!!!"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
he he... welcome to sh![email protected]

You... YOU are going to come on here and get holier than thou about how much better you are than us for breaking the law and admitting it. &nbsp;Misnomer came correct. &nbsp;DSC knows. &nbsp;Travis... I'm disappointed - I wanted to hear from you. &nbsp;But now you have me. &nbsp;Congratulations! &nbsp;I begin by incorporating by reference those posters and proceed in line item format:

1. &nbsp;PSA from F&F - And you sound like a poster child from the movie. &nbsp;Do you have a "crew?" &nbsp;Do you find yourself seeking a lifestyle and not a hobby? &nbsp;Think NOS should be OEM? &nbsp;Who's the a$$clown?

2. &nbsp;Cop trouble and calling us male anatomical parts - One ticket in probably as many years driving as you have been out of diapers. &nbsp;Contra*dick*tion? &nbsp;Not really - I like to test my skills in a controlled environment. &nbsp;I began with days at the strip, moved into autox, and now am working up to my competition license. &nbsp;I don't need to show every revving ricer, innocent bystander, and cop that I've got skillz b/c I have times in controlled environments to prove it to the only one who matters (no, its not you). &nbsp;(in the intersts of civility, I'll try to imagine you weren't actually calling us non-F&F wannabes "dicks").

3. &nbsp;Turned on by beating "revvers" - Truth be told, there are few things I find funnier than some a$$clown who thinks I'm on his acne-prone, prom-going, BigMac-serving, soon-to-be-employed-in-a-menial-job level. &nbsp;When I hear "revving," I look over out of concern that no one is having a seizure, then I go back about my business. &nbsp;I might smile and waive to egg him on, but what do I really have to gain aside from internal pleasure from witnessing his angst? &nbsp;The *honor* of saying, I smoked a Neon/Civic/Teg/Minivan? &nbsp;WOW! &nbsp;THAT will help me sleep at night! &nbsp;My god, a story for the grandkids... "there was this one time when this kid in an econo-sh!t box was jerking his foot around on the gas pedal..." &nbsp;I guess, when I was your age, I always found fulfillment in pursuits that had something to do with me (academics, sports, etc.) rather than some mechanical extention of myself. &nbsp;Maybe some day you can be comfortable enough in your OWN skin to enjoy life and not feel like you have something to prove to random people on the streets.

4. &nbsp;Drooling - Now, why does it NOT make me "drool?" &nbsp;Because I have better things to do with my time than put both innocent and inherently stupid people at risk. &nbsp;I know a week or so ago, I posted a fine collection of articles with deaths of both lemmings and bystanders. &nbsp;That would be really cool - to face 15 to 20 for showing some guy in a Neon who 0wNz him.

5. &nbsp;Fronting - do they still use that term where you live? &nbsp;At any rate, I think if you read this, you will see that fronting would be more along the lines of putting on a show for any near you to see rather than chosing not to participate in an unsafe and ungratifying activity.

6. &nbsp;Skillz and related accessories - Good brakes won't save you when you are out of control. &nbsp;Brakes at high speed take more than the distance between you and a curb/car/pedestrian to work. &nbsp;Radar detector? &nbsp;For what zipping through traffic? &nbsp;Nope - they're illegal where I live and besides, there is always some cumwad racing through traffic at unsafe speeds that will be ticket bait for my 10-15 over freeway pace. &nbsp;Oh, by the way - hear of "instant on" and photo radar? &nbsp;Amateur driving skills - no thanks, I'd rather develop professional skills where they are best suited. &nbsp;Granted the next inmate #9913725 might have better "amateur" skills, but most people who race competitively hone their skills on a track. &nbsp;Pick my balls up? &nbsp;Hmm... interesting... mine are still attached. &nbsp;Did yours get severed in a street racing accident?

Thanks for playing, drive through.

[Mike98&#39;240]

Grifon>

It is so disappointing listening to your Cocky-Inexperienced ass discuss what should be done w/ street racing....

Obviously you don't know shit about this forum....

Hipposleek broke it down to you perfect*

Don't F*ck with Fire
& Experience
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[MorganS13]

sorry if i came off like an ass. &nbsp;i just didn't want people thinkin i was some crazy F&F street racer, i'm not really too fond of those people. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[thich]

i went to my first AutoX last week as a spectator... you wanna see FAST? you should check those out... you don't even need a fast car to win in an AutoX!! It all comes down to the driver!

streetracing is stupid and i take my stance with DSC... keep it on the tracks

[bbp]

Griffon2k, &nbsp;You have just demonstrated, not once, but twice, that you are an idiot. &nbsp;Some day (hopefully) you will grow up and realize that your a wank.

I really could care less about your "street racing". &nbsp;I race on the track where it belongs. &nbsp;Get up off your ass and get a job so you can afford to do it legally and gain some respect from fellow racers. &nbsp;It's the exact shit that you posted that gives the guys like me the guilty by association connotation. &nbsp;

This forum should be used for informative purposes, not for some dipshit to encourage others to break the law, crash their ride and look like a punk little shit while he is doing it.

[nrcooled]

I am going to come real w/ it. &nbsp;I have done it and I will do it. &nbsp;I do it in late hours 2-3AM not that it makes it better its less chance of shit happening. &nbsp;

I just dropped a couple of grand to get my car the way I want it and I will be damned if I can't use it. &nbsp;I plan on Doing the suspension and getting my baby track worthy so I can run road coarses. &nbsp;

The difference between myself and Griffon is that I would never condemn someone for choosing to be smart. &nbsp;What I do is stupid and I will gladly admit it but I would never assume everyone should, in essence, be as stupid as me. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

I agree. &nbsp;Enjoy your ride but also respect everyones right to their oppinion and safety <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[silvia240]

Let me ask you all a question.... Where and why do we have performance parts for our cars. And such an abundance at that?

Let me tell you.... DEMAND.....
Where did this big demand come from?
People who want to RACE.
And i am talking about on and off track racers. The draggers, the track'ers, etc.
Now you must admint most of those people use it to race are on the Street.
And because of that demand we should technically thank street racing for helping the import performance market grow so big.

Racing is dangerous,i must admit. But that is in the hands of the driver. I have been street racin for about 7 years now and i have not once caused and accident, gotten a ticket or ran someone over. But that is just me.

Back then, about 5 to 7 years ago, street racing was very small, well at least in san diego. On a good night there would be a hundred cars. Everybody knew each other. There were no accidents, or deaths. Maybe because we were not stupid kids who did not know how to control our cars. But now a days, there are little shmucks runnin around in their cars thinking they own the roads. And i know there have been many many injuries. I was there when a kid got hit by a surburban (some big car, not really sure). The kid flew like 40 feet , at least. That was caused by some dumbshit 16 yearold kid who decided to start drivin up and down the grassy hills. That was a sad day.
Racing is not stupid, the people who drive stupidly are stupid.

I dont even know what i am gettin at.... when i remember i will edit this... hehhehe
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