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Drunk Bastard

10-25-2005, 06:14 AM

Just like the title states: Over Fenders.

let's discuss:

A couple weeks ago at Falken Drift Showoff I noticed a nice looking white s13 coupe with some unpainted but still very functional over-fenders. Here's a pic:
http://www.mophos.net/images/stories/album05/0IMG_0009737.jpg

Now, does anyone know if these are production over fenders? Or did this guy make them himself? better yet, does anyone know who this guy is?

I went to phase2's site and it seems that they only have over fenders for "180sx" aka s13 fastback (lets not make this thread like the 180sx sticker thread)

so please, people with over fenders, post pics of your setup and wheel specs if you know them.

and if there is already a similar thread to this, and i missed it while searching....well.... :axe:

justinhustle

10-25-2005, 07:42 AM

i know a dude who made a cf version of the chargespeed over fenders

they look very similar to those, but im not sure to bet money on it

KiDyNomiTe

10-25-2005, 09:27 AM

I hate overfenders liket hat on 240s. They ruin the body lines of the car. The wheel arch type only work on certain cars like corrollas:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/johnams/dd9/DSC_0160copy.jpg

The best overfenders for 240s are the ones most companies like Origin use, doesnt disupt the body lines, but adds more clearance. Although I hate 50mm rear fenders, makes the car look to bulky in the rear. I have 30mm rear fenders but modified them to be less than that (probably like 20mm).
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/johnams/dd9/DSC_0478copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/dd9b.jpg

chmercer

10-25-2005, 10:02 AM

how are thoes flares functional when the wheels are completly brutally sunk.

the240sxer95

10-25-2005, 10:10 AM

iuno, maybe the wheels are sunk to because of a more conservitive offset to fit larger tires..

i joke? =X

FaLKoN240

10-25-2005, 10:58 AM

Wow, I just noticed that the wheels were sunk in the flares, and that car either:

A. Had alot of body roll.

B. Needs more lower.

But anyways, I think those flares rock, I like it. Especially if you're running big wheels... Drunk Bastard has an S14, but some guy was making carbon fiber flares they were in the FS thread if I recall correctly.

WanganRunner

10-25-2005, 11:34 AM

Big rivet-on flares look good on EVERYTHING, period. 240's included.

SoSideways

10-25-2005, 11:38 AM

Rivet flares are badass, but I'd probably use screws or something. Seeing as rivets needs to be drilled out. Screws or bolts with locktite would make for replacing them faster. Heh...

Drunk Bastard

10-25-2005, 02:26 PM

RBS14

10-25-2005, 03:17 PM

you drive an S14 so what does it matter?

hahahaha

FaLKoN240

10-25-2005, 03:42 PM

I take back what i said previously, he may have aquired a coupe.

SpeedMonkeyInc

10-25-2005, 04:15 PM

On the Classic-Celica forum a few guys where using 240Z fender arches on their Celicas. I think so long as the shape of the arch is pretty close it will work. Rivit on flares are sick.

Drunk Bastard

10-25-2005, 04:57 PM

rb scott: s14 is on the way out, s13 is on the way in
falken scott: not yet
monkey: rivet on fender flares are TEH SEX

A Spec Products

10-25-2005, 04:57 PM

that car is with enonvativ force here in los angeles

i have no idea who makes those fenders, but they dont match up with the coupe at all. that coupe used to be hard without the flares.

those flares you showed in the pic above are PJ bonafacio flares iirc, call phase2 about em

KiDyNomiTe

10-25-2005, 08:18 PM

ok, seeing as these flares are going to be used on a dedicated drift car, I DO NOT want fiberglass on the car. Yes, I know rivet on 50mm widebody looks great, cause it keeps the lines of the car bla bla bla. But what happens if I bap a wall? I totally destroy the fiberglass widebody, and the work and the paint that went into it. So, as I was saying....anybody know of BOLT-ON FENDER FLARES for the s13 coupe??
here are jspecs:
http://store1.yimg.com/I/jspec_1783_83126552
http://store1.yimg.com/I/jspec_1843_11924528

Any idea of why these are for the fastback? I dont see why they WOULDN'T work on the coupe
What makes you think having bolt on flares will save the car anybit if you hit a wall.

Scenario 1: w/ flares
Hit a wall, flare breaks off, 1/4 panel dents in, fender flare no longer fits without major pulling, and even then, more than likely above the flare will be dented and hard to pull, car now looks like ass w/ or w/o flares

Scenario 2: w/ overfenders
Hit a wall, break overfenders, probably dent your 1/4 panel underneat it, buy new overfenders, covers the whole thing...

Scenario 3: either or
Hit wall, car swings hits front, now you have more to fix..

FaLKoN240

10-25-2005, 11:03 PM

I think he is talking about getting possibly urethane fenders. He just doesn't want fiberglass because of its low durability.

HyperTek

10-25-2005, 11:35 PM

just dont hit a wall.. last thing id be worried abotu when hitting a wall is if my exterior was ok.. of course its gonna get fawked up.. Id just worry if the chassis is still good or not.. You gotta pay to play right?

Pull/crimple the shit out of the rear quater panal to fit larger wheels.. then frp front fenders.. :bigok:

Drunk Bastard

10-26-2005, 12:29 AM

lol, you guys are great

"just dont hit a wall.." hahaha, OBVIOUSLY you have NEVER driven at Altamont Raceway....

kid dynomite, in most cases of hits that i've seen the 1/4 right by the tail lights is the piece that has taken damage, not the area around the wheel....which makes sense, considering that the ass-end is hanging out. also, its more expensive to buy new full sized flares, rather than just over fenders.

ok, so i have received some negative comments, with a couple postive feedbacks. but it has all been bullshit. if anyone read my original post i stated that i am looking for examples of companies that make these flares or people who have experience with them....not people who are looking to criticize the post.

....i knew i should have gone straight to ziptied and not wasted my time here.

BOROSUN

10-26-2005, 01:33 AM

this my fav

http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?attachmentid=9733&stc=1

Drunk Bastard

10-26-2005, 04:05 AM

^^^YES, that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. anyone have any info...? what brand, where to buy, what material its made from, etc... :bigok:

240SeXy!

10-28-2005, 01:34 AM

fucking yummie Id like that for my fastback ! :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

chmercer

10-28-2005, 07:22 AM

^^^YES, that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. anyone have any info...? what brand, where to buy, what material its made from, etc... :bigok:

http://www.tp-spirit.co.jp/workscar/images/q-taro.jpg

tps
importer
frp

:loco:

axiomatik

10-28-2005, 11:48 AM

I think bomex180's are the best looking flares I've ever seen on an s13:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=835021&postcount=37

I think he used 240z flares, but I'm not sure.

ledzeppelin240

10-29-2005, 05:36 AM

chmercer: I just can't find those fender flares that are in that picture you have on the internet...Do you have any websites?

ThatGuy

10-29-2005, 06:39 AM

nbrindley, those aren't 240z flares, they are custom flares. If you PM Bomex180 he can give you the bodyshop that did them. I asked him awhile ago, but the name escapes me now.

richardxfeng

10-29-2005, 11:56 AM

How about my old car?I had the same flares as Bomex180.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/richardxfeng/IMG_0037.jpg

FRpilot

10-29-2005, 12:16 PM

What makes you think having bolt on flares will save the car anybit if you hit a wall.

Scenario 1: w/ flares
Hit a wall, flare breaks off, 1/4 panel dents in, fender flare no longer fits without major pulling, and even then, more than likely above the flare will be dented and hard to pull, car now looks like ass w/ or w/o flares

Scenario 2: w/ overfenders
Hit a wall, break overfenders, probably dent your 1/4 panel underneat it, buy new overfenders, covers the whole thing...

Scenario 3: either or
Hit wall, car swings hits front, now you have more to fix..

:werd: im with kiddynomite. where did you get 30mm flares? the only company i know who makes them is MSport, but their flares cost like $580. which is more than i'd like to spend on something that i will have to cut, rivet, fiberglass/bondo, and do body work on. i think Origin/VS flares for 300 is a fair price but they only make copies of the 50mm flares.

FaLKoN240

10-29-2005, 12:17 PM

Those are fucking hot.

S13FREEAAK

10-29-2005, 12:34 PM

http://www.origin-lab.com/home.php

Origin now makes 30mm rear overfenders.

anthony240

10-29-2005, 01:05 PM

haha, somehow that white enonvativ s13 made those fn01rc flush with the overfenders, with the help of some HUGE spacers, probably areound 4" thick. took em off for the drift.

JUN has bolt on overfenders:
http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/aero-parts/fender/over-fender1.jpg

FRpilot

10-30-2005, 11:07 AM

4'' spacers!! is that freaking safe? i read that 25mm would be the largest you should go considering safety..

btw. coupes with bolt on flares look hardcore!

SoSideways

10-30-2005, 11:59 AM

Koguchi ran like 40mm spacers on the rear of his green D1 180sx.

He had the biggest, lowest offset Nismo LM-GT4 wheels, which were like 18x10.5 +10, and he has 70mm over fenders for the rear (it's like a 50mm M sport or Origin blister fender, with the JDM Rice bolt on flare style on top of it), so he had to use like 40mm bolt on spacers to flush out the rear wheels.

And he's making over 400 rwhp too, so if he does it, I think it's safe for us to do it :bigok:

FRpilot

10-30-2005, 12:46 PM

sounds crazy. you mean kogochi's old green d1 180sx. got pics? ive seen it but i dont remember it having flares on it.

ThatGuy

10-30-2005, 12:54 PM

Best thing I could find on short notice. It's a small pic, but you can clearly see the widebody fenders AND flares.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/442/180sx01219ih.jpg

SoSideways

10-30-2005, 01:04 PM

That's the thing, it's 1 piece. The flares are molded onto the blister wide fenders, to give you 70mm of widening.

The same thing is done for the front fenders, and I belief the front fenders are 50mm over fenders.

Koguchi Power body parts are hardcore people. Remember that :bigok:

Zemus

10-30-2005, 01:14 PM

http://tinypic.com/f40h14.jpg
my old s13

ThatGuy

10-30-2005, 01:30 PM

This thread is one of the driving forces behind me wanting Flares for my Coupe. Keep the pics coming. Here's a few I have collected over time.
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/134/flaredcoupe8vu.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/5886/flaredcoupe25nw.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2889/flaredcoupe34xq.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3293/tealflares2bu.jpg
And of course the craziest flares ever!!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5215/bosofront4bt.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/322/bosorear3cz.jpg

Now everybody else: Make with the Picures! I need to add to my collection. :D

richardxfeng

10-30-2005, 01:36 PM

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/richardxfeng/jdms136.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b86/richardxfeng/180sx2.jpg

ckwarren

02-01-2006, 07:05 PM

I have a 95 Nissan 240SX SE & I'm putting a SR20DET in my car in 4 wks. My goal is to hit 425 rwhp by 9/1/06. Anyone has any recommendation for the tire setup I should go w/. I know I want 18's but I'm not sure of the width/specs to run low 12s.

aZnboy911

02-01-2006, 07:14 PM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/aznboy911/724be258.jpg

FaLKoN240

02-01-2006, 07:31 PM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/aznboy911/724be258.jpg

You going for that ultra sunk look?

JaeTea

02-01-2006, 08:33 PM

You Sunk My Battleship!

thundering02

02-01-2006, 11:35 PM

In thatguys post I like 1,2 and 4....and would consider the purchase of such.

EchoOfSilence

02-01-2006, 11:45 PM

Bomex180's flares are hot. They look much better in person. hahahaha... I parked behind him at the Jtuned meet and i didn't even realize it was his car. haaha.

kazuo

02-02-2006, 01:21 AM

You going for that ultra sunk look?

+1.

http://elsmar.com/pdf_files/Weird%20Pictures/Battleship%20firing%20guns.jpg

Get some wheels that actually will make those wide fenders worth it.

It doesn't look good.

the head

02-02-2006, 10:34 AM

I have a set of those flares in my garage bought them from mike at clearcorners not going to use them if amyone wants em shoot me a pm with a price and i will see if i still have them around.

chmercer

02-02-2006, 02:33 PM

chmercer: I just can't find those fender flares that are in that picture you have on the internet...Do you have any websites?

http://www.tp-spirit.co.jp/

hybrid_eg

02-05-2006, 08:40 PM

i have a same set of flares brand new never used them as i sold the car before i got around to put them on, identical ones on bomex180's car, from the same manufacturer, $200 for all 4. With this you can pretty much run any wheel, tire size.. btw i'd like to get info where to get overfenders like some of you have picture in this thread that run along the fenders from edge to edge and come w/a lip that connect to it.. not at home right now, but have a picture of exactly what im talking about that i'll post later, if someone can identify the brand and maker that would be awesome.. i'd be down to run that anyday :-) but i'm sure it costs an arm an a leg :(

p.s. why do i have a thumbs down in my post? weird?

drift freaq

02-05-2006, 09:24 PM

hybrid_eg

02-06-2006, 01:55 AM

yep, have a same set sitting in the garage.. dont think i'll be using it anytime soon as i have such a long way to go with the car, and tons of priorities ahead of overfenders so may as well sell them if someone else is ready to use' em! :) let me know if you want them!

TheTimanator

02-06-2006, 07:06 PM

http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/ogi-180.jpghttp://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/ogi-180-3.jpg
http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/ogi-180-2.jpghttp://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/users_photo/ogi-180-4.jpg
:drool: man I want some wat's

this is one of those threads I'm glad to see come back from the dead :)

C2AUTOSPL

02-06-2006, 09:51 PM

THose flares are nice. I like the wheels on that 180sx

big_schaf

02-06-2006, 10:03 PM

THose flares are nice. I like the wheels on that 180sx

I am liking those wheels as well

beatlust

06-03-2007, 05:40 PM

more coupe pics.. what are the widebody rear options to the hole for the gas cap?? could i fill up from the rear? time to walk out to the driveway...

jspecusa

06-03-2007, 05:49 PM

shameless plug
http://www.jspec.com/jdmn2flares.html

ThatGuy

06-03-2007, 05:50 PM

I want those Sam! If they haven't sold by next month, I'm gonna be all over them. :D
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/jspec_1945_687474
Someday, I might even be able to afford wheels to fill them. :rofl:

J-Style

06-03-2007, 05:51 PM

That black 180sx is beautiful. I didn't know that Watanabe's came in a size like that. I like the look of over-fender's, as long as they are around the same size as the black 180sx's.

dorifuto_sluto

06-03-2007, 05:52 PM

IMHO, i've never been a fan of overfenders whatsoever. i'm more favorable to C-West "wide-wheels" guard arch's which is kinda somewhat similar to what JUN has to offer. A good alternative in my opinion...

jspecusa

06-03-2007, 06:01 PM

That black 180sx is beautiful. I didn't know that Watanabe's came in a size like that. I like the look of over-fender's, as long as they are around the same size as the black 180sx's.

a set of wats in good size and offset is $1,600+
brand new you can order them from takumi for $2,100+
there are reasons why things are "RARE"

barry, ya wheels for it would be over $2k, but the point of the N2 flare is to give you a super wide wheel base for gripping(haha).

floodo1

06-03-2007, 06:31 PM

a set of wats in good size and offset is $1,600+
brand new you can order them from takumi for $2,100+
there are reasons why things are "RARE"

barry, ya wheels for it would be over $2k, but the point of the N2 flare is to give you a super wide wheel base for gripping(haha).

is called track width not wheelbase....anyway isnt the main point to fit huge (for our cars) rubber...ie > 300?

ThatGuy

06-03-2007, 06:58 PM

barry, ya wheels for it would be over $2k, but the point of the N2 flare is to give you a super wide wheel base for gripping(haha).

I could do it if I sold my Equips and held off on some other projects for my car. :D

That's why I said someday. No sense in running wheels that wide with good rubber on them, and a stock KA. :keke:

arkive43

06-04-2007, 12:59 PM

I could do it if I sold my Equips and held off on some other projects for my car. :D

That's why I said someday. No sense in running wheels that wide with good rubber on them, and a stock KA. :keke:

hehehe i definatly feel you on that one :keke: na ka :hs: here too.

Taniguchi_Is_#1

06-04-2007, 02:34 PM

this thread makes me wonder who ended up with those koguchi power overs on egay.

RiceEata

06-04-2007, 10:57 PM

i like how this guy did his fenders, not sure what he used but it looks good...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/oO0oBo0Oo/s13blue.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/oO0oBo0Oo/s13blue2.jpg

blackflag_Rms13

06-05-2007, 12:09 AM

Looks like a big ass pull and cleaned up nice with some body filler. I agree, looks dope.

Rayne

06-05-2007, 12:33 AM

Looks like a big ass pull and cleaned up nice with some body filler. I agree, looks dope.

That or he used body filler to mold the flares on.

jspecusa

06-05-2007, 12:41 AM

Looks like a big ass pull and cleaned up nice with some body filler. I agree, looks dope.

that's what pj did with the rear of our s13
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/jspec_1944_223453754

C. Anderson

08-11-2007, 11:32 AM

Does anybody know the difference between the Type 1 and Type 2 rear overs for the s13 on origins website?
http://www.origin-lab.com/index.php?section=fender&sub=S13

Full-Lock

08-11-2007, 12:28 PM

haha the vent design

ThatGuy

08-11-2007, 12:32 PM

haha the vent design

:stupid: :duh: :duh: :duh:

Seriously, they are both 20mm fenders and the vents are obviously different. How did you not see that?

Edit: Damn, you were talking about the rears. I look dumb now. Hahahaha.

DOOK

08-11-2007, 12:34 PM

hey I'm just proud of the guy for searching out the overfenders thread instead of starting another bonehead post yah know :D

C. Anderson

08-11-2007, 12:59 PM

Does anybody know the difference between the Type 1 and Type 2 rear overs for the s13 on origins website?
http://www.origin-lab.com/index.php?section=fender&sub=S13

REARS! I obiously knew the difference for the fronts. Read next time.

DOOK

08-11-2007, 01:01 PM

one has gas fill cover, the other doesn't????

axiomatik

08-11-2007, 01:17 PM

uh oh, I think ThatGuy just got :Owned:

:keke:

Reading comprehension FTW!

(just playing around, please don't ban me :bite:)

but to get back on topic, I'm not sure what the difference is besides the gas cap. they look a little different, but can't pick anything specific.

ThatGuy

08-11-2007, 01:24 PM

Hahaha. I fail!

In that case, it appears one covers more of the panel then the other one does. Type II seems to wrap around above the tail lights, similar to the Chargespeed fenders. Pictures aren't the greatest.

My appologies for misreading the first time. :bow:

C. Anderson

08-11-2007, 01:39 PM

Its cool. The home page said it was added on July 17. They sould have better pics and I see what you're saying ThatGuy. Thanks for the input. :)
And thanks for the neg rep whoever :mrmeph:

sultan

08-11-2007, 05:19 PM

type ii has a weird gtr style step and it does wrap around more like the chargespeed

simbas car with type ii. i think he said the coupe has a more aggressive step than the hatch, which he posted some pics of on a different forum
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/kidynomite/Grip%20Gambler%20Pictures/3.jpg

C. Anderson

08-11-2007, 05:32 PM

Thank you! :wavey:

2_fast_240

08-11-2007, 11:32 PM

nobody has mentioned ait b-magic overfenders yet. I got some, just waiting on new wheels. Not sure bout the individual price, but I got a 8 piece kit for just under $1000 (carbon fiber front fenders too). Test fit seemed pretty good. This brings up a question ive been meaning to ask though. Do most people cut out the quarter panel underneath? If so, how much? I was thinking about cutting pretty much all of it, just leaving enough to rivet on the overfender and keep the strength. Mainly for weight reduction. This would probably destroy the wheels if it got hit in that spot though. I guess id just be carefull, lol.

smelly240

08-12-2007, 06:02 AM

its pointless to not cut the fener underneath.

UfoZ8myCow

08-12-2007, 02:16 PM

I guess Ill just ask here since this thread is already going:

Anybody got any pics of an S13 coupe with aero and either 30 or 50mm rear overfenders and the stock spoiler?? Im trying to decide whether or not I want to keep it or shave it when I do all that stuff.

Matej

08-13-2007, 07:16 PM

Do most overfenders sit lower than the factory panels? I see many people tuck with overfenders, even 17's, so I'm curious, because with only pulled stock fenders I can't even really tuck 18's.
Which overfenders go pretty low? :)

Full-Lock

08-13-2007, 11:14 PM

does anyone have any pictures of chargespeed rear fenders on s14 besides their demo car and j5's car? i want to get a set and cant find any other cars besides those 2 that have them.

also where i should purchase them from? cheapest place ive found so far is 416 from intensepower.

thanks

UfoZ8myCow

08-14-2007, 02:33 AM

Matej

08-14-2007, 04:12 AM

They are called coilovers.
Yeahhhh...and they're all the way down in the tube with the bottom collars removed.

Seriously though, I'd like to know if overfenders really do sit lower than factory panels, or is it mainly a matter of how people install them?