*.*Thinking about a Cut-Back 180sx*.*

[240SeXy!]

I have a s13, and I would like to see how involved a cut-back would be on it. Similar to what team orange does to their team silvias. Its hard to find many pics, much less information on this. If anyone has any information or comments they would be awsome.

Thanks

Rob :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

[S14DB]

You mean a truck(el camino) conversion?

[240SeXy!]

yea whats the tech name for those. LOL my friend has a el camino, but im not about to call it that :P

[morpheus8486]

I don't think it would be that hard necessarily. Just alot of custom fabrication. If I had a welder and plasma cutter and a shittier fastback I would want to try it.

[Ian]

we had 2 junked fastbacks at the shop that i was dying to try it on but a guy came and picked them up from us

[Irukandji]

shiiy3t w3 neEd deM SILVIAS to Lo0k lyk3 APC drift cars yo.


you basically need some gasoline and a match.
Open your hatch, fill it up with gasoline
throw a match inside..

it would be equivalent I think...

[SW20Racer]

its not hard, the only involved part is rolling the edges to meet your stock body lines just measure, cut(dont forget a hole for your rear window), weld it in then bolt in the bottom(bolts are to prevent any chance of weight shift resulting in noise or cracked welds) throw in some spray in bedliner if u want. i know of a guy who did this back in tx it took him a weekend with the sheetmetal shop cooperating

*edt:forgot to mention he blanked out the rear 1/4 windows w/sheetmetal as well gave it a nice flow

[HyperTek]

shiiy3t w3 neEd deM SILVIAS to Lo0k lyk3 APC drift cars yo.




That style of wRiTiNg must come natural for someone who makes thier screen name n1sm0r hahah..

Anyways.. go Robby go! Remeber we gotta offroad it on stock suspension b4 u put coilovers.. :bigok:

[240SeXy!]

RGR ill rally race it before :D

:hsdance: :hsdance:

By the Way ANY1 Got any picks of the truck back 180's they could post ill try to get as many as poss. to give me crappy blue printz!

Ill prob take this and do some cad or soildworks to work out the cage etc.

thanks guys! :sadwavey:

[240SeXy!]

found more info....

sil-truck

or....

flat-back


but still hard to get info...

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[240SeXy!]

nice thanks for the pic.

Im gonna go ahead and start planning mine, keep me updated and ill keep the updates coming so that it might help you ::D :x: :x:

[tiggs]

yea whats the tech name for those.

Sil-Camino

That's what their called.

Google it up (silcamino or sil-camino) and you'll get some good links.

[projectRDM]

Remove hatch. Cut out rear quarter windows and surrounding sheetmetal. Lay flat sheet across open area. Weld, paint.

[FaLKoN240]

I like 240 trucks.

[EH9]

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[HyperTek]

i got some pics on my hard drive i forgot about !!! do'h

i swear put a camper shell, taunoe cover, or cross the bars and rock a spare tire would be hot.

[ThatGuy]

^^Just turn it into a Sil-station Wagon!!

[240SeXy!]

LOL throw in some mini surburben seats L+:P

[240SeXy!]

o russ hows the weather, and the cutting of the 240 going? :)

[HyperTek]

sign on aim so i can send u this pics robby!

[240SeXy!]

for the ones who share my love
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/9597/man1.jpg

Im on Austin... i should be working.. tho you know at work... :bash:

[240SeXy!]

**WISHES FOR BLUE PRINTS**

HAHA I think I can do it.... Much planning and luck, i can do it. :bowrofl:

[BlueDragon871]

make sure you take a ton of pictures and stuff, ive got a few pics heres one

[FaLKoN240]

EWWWWWWWWWWW out of a coupe? That's gross. LOL. J/K

[undercoverdjay]

the only part of that I like is the cut off signal lights from the stock lights, leaving it with an 87-88 Z31 tail light look. That looks good, the rest is a waste of a good fastback

[philly blunt]

someone has to have a write up on how to do it i have an extra hatch shell and i want to try it out as well

[Ian]

cut the bitch up and weld it back...



to my knowledge they're "K-style trucks" being that they were around in japan before they brought them here...just like everything else in drifting besides the GTO/Viper/Mustang lol

[240SeXy!]

lol bust out the old Tig-gie

weld it sounds good HAHAHA

meh Im sure i can bust it one try, hahah :P :smash: :smash:

[Omarius Maximus]

Can somebody please try this with a 98 moss silver Kouki SE pleaaaaaseeeee!!!!??????

[.::SR20_240::.]

i would do it if i had the tools to do it right, heres a pic i have on my comp i think it looks relly cool.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/po0chucker/180sx_cortado.jpg

[theicecreamdan]

his front fender is falling off

[Sil-Camino]

Haha its designed like that JK!
:yum: :Ownedd:

[SochBAT]

i'd pimp one.

Import Offroader.

[Uniac]

i tried this with my last s13, the cutting is the easy part, bracing the chasis, and making it look good are the hard parts.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/445000-445999/445254_139_full.jpg

i gave up on it after i found that 3/4 of the floor was rusted out, and i was getting feb up finnishing the rhd swap, fixing the floor and finnishing the "el-silvino" as my freinds dubbed it

In the end i just bought a Cefiro.

[240_sx_guy]

If it's a 240 truck you want are you keeping the ka24de truck motor? haha j/k ka's are cool I have a stock ka and it runs really well for having 157,xxx miles

[mike13]

If it's a 240 truck you want are you keeping the ka24de truck motor? haha j/k ka's are cool I have a stock ka and it runs really well for having 157,xxx miles
kill yourself.

[240SeXy!]

Un do you have any more pics im interested, my s13 is clean and clear floor :D

Sorry to hear about rust BAH! i hate that shit :madfawk: :madfawk: :madfawk:

[HyperTek]

too much talk, not enough going thru the process.. lol

[SochBAT]

^ i'm with stupid!

Just go thru it all. Seems straight forward. Have alot of rust protectant!

[240SeXy!]

Austin Damnit! Im working on it, :: busts out plasma cutter ::


:P

[Ian]

next time we get an S13 fastback that's not supposed to stay in one piece, i wanna cut it up

[240SeXy!]

yea once i get my s14 back on the road, im gonna start the cut-back project and take lots of pics so we can jock styles, and learn from mistakes :P

:D :bash:

later zilvia! :2f2f:

[axiomatik]

Be sure to brace the chassis *before* you start cutting. That will help the body stay in the correct shape when you cut off the back.

[Irukandji]

Can somebody please try this with a 98 moss silver Kouki SE pleaaaaaseeeee!!!!??????


use your imagination :rofl:

[240SeXy!]

You think i should take off the glass, build the cage then cut away? and add the back wall including the sliding toyota window? :bash:

[theicecreamdan]

yes I believe you should.

[240SeXy!]

Should i build like a "box" in the center where it was taken out like a sort of brace, incorp. the rear struts.. hmmm more thinking goes on... :hahano:

[240SeXy!]

:w00t: some plans drew in my soilworks program and autocad, will post them soon.! :wavey:

[sideview_180sx]

Robbie go with a design taken from off-road trucks in which the cage goes thru the rear panel into the interior. Outback make sure it braces to the shock towers. Pretty much its easier to design the cage before you weld it in. The simple part is getting sheet metal (prolly 1/4" thick as the rear piece to enclose the driver compartment). Use a hole saw to create holes in the sheet metal to run the cage tubing thru. Measure 5 times before you weld. Voila. BTW get some of that rhino liner to use in the now proposed flat bed.

[240SeXy!]

Ya haha that would be funny, sponcered by Rhino Liner! ya i was planning on something like that, would be pretty sweet, or maybe just the carpet like trucks with toulle covers, it might be eaiser, lighter and cheaper i donno :hsdance: ..

[240SeXy!]

Heres a random drawing I did in a minute at work,

The back should be a sheet with like a U cut into it after the cage is finished, With the struts exposed the cage will connect to them and also make a X in the back to reniforce along with a box in the lower end of the back.

here, :P :rawk: 1 minute...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/Drifter240sx/Drawing6-Model.jpg

[240SeXy!]

i donno what do you think comments on the construction aaron, austin>? :yum:

[Tygma]

Stop posting so much, take it easy. If you are really going to follow through with it, go look up the dynamics of it or copy down what you see in the pictures (I'm sure you have plenty), and transfer that to real life. Its not that complicated...

[slide_or_die]

i like the idea that your trying
question though : who came up with the idea of naming it "sil-camino" anyway?

[theicecreamdan]

somebody was like "it looks like a car truck,,, like an el camino. but it has some silvia parts...SIL CAMINO!!!"

[240SeXy!]

yea from "el" camino to "sil" camino for the sil-eights plus camino ends. :rolleyes:

[axiomatik]

*snip*
(prolly 1/4" thick as the rear piece to enclose the driver compartment).
*snip*

Holy crap, do you realize how thick that is? (well, the obvious answer is 1/4" :p) Typical sheet metal used on cars is around 20GA, which is 0.0320" thick.

[aa87]

that would be heavy as a mother 1/4 inch thick!

www.diald.com magazine is close by, and they were gonna do a truck fastback, they had one and they started sawing off rear C pillar, passanger side was taken off and tehy just gave up, so he gave it to my friend who wants to eventually go through with it.

[Sean1978]

http://www.autospecialist.com/images/autoPicsFullsize/20474.jpg
how about a SR20 and a S13 rear subframe (probably some other shit too) into something like this? I think a drift TRUCK would be cool...

[theicecreamdan]

aren't they torsion bar in the front?

[240SeXy!]

LOL i think i wanna make a Hella Lamp Rack on the top of the sil-camino :P

:rofl:

[sideview_180sx]

that would be heavy as a mother 1/4 inch thick!

www.diald.com magazine is close by, and they were gonna do a truck fastback, they had one and they started sawing off rear C pillar, passanger side was taken off and tehy just gave up, so he gave it to my friend who wants to eventually go through with it.

yah you're right after I thought about it 1/12" thick would more then enough to suffice

[jinsei888]

yea whats the tech name for those. LOL my friend has a el camino, but im not about to call it that :P

It's called "Base"; i.e. Base PS13 or Base R32, there's an R32 "base" modded in Japan. The video floats around the internet

[jinsei888]

http://www.autospecialist.com/images/autoPicsFullsize/20474.jpg
how about a SR20 and a S13 rear subframe (probably some other shit too) into something like this? I think a drift TRUCK would be cool...

Signal USA is currently building a drift competition Nissan Titan truck prototype

[NemeGuero]

yah, its been done.. I saw a video of a black nissan pickup truck that had a silvia front.. lemme try to dig it up

[theicecreamdan]

im afraid to look when you find that picture, but I cant wait.

[240SeXy!]

sweet, and if you can find the base r32 :D

[ThatGuy]

I can't find a pic of the R32 Base/Truck, but here's a Stagea with a R34 face-lift.
:rawk::rawk::rawk::rawk::rawk:
http://www.monkys.jp/e/img/600DSC50015.jpg

[HyperTek]

i think a Wagon conversion s13 is highly doable
just gotta find a car with simular roof hieght, cut, and weld in..

[240SeXy!]

but it cant be as sexy as that r34 front end YUMMM! :coold: :coold: :coold:~

[240SeXy!]

Heres another pic MINUS those tails. DROOL!

http://www.x-treme.fi/albums/album35/IMG_9494.jpg

[mr_240sx]

Heres another pic MINUS those tails. DROOL!

http://www.x-treme.fi/albums/album35/IMG_9494.jpg


dayum!!! thats nice. the only thing im not a big fan of is that wing and the tails.

[240SeXy!]

ya kill tails and wing and were set.

[FaLKoN240]

Sans the wing and the tails and that car is pretty sick.

[NemeGuero]

looks like a del sol... UGLY

[240Driver39]

looks like complete and utter shit.

[justinhustle]

damn right looks like a honduh

its not clean whatsoever

do i think they put a lot of hard work into it? sure

do i think it needs more work, to make it better and less busy? damn right

[240SeXy!]

yea i like the open back better and much less ricIe bah!

Heres more pics took from thread that should be there but thanks to people who bring up dead threads.... Use this one plz...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/po0chucker/035.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/po0chucker/034.jpg[/QUOTE]

[240SeXy!]

Here for the last thread that was dug up, this is the thread to be posting in about "sil-camenos" "truck-back 240's" and whatever you were calling it in the re-opend old thread... plz post in this one only. :bow:

[irax]

anyone ever find that truck with silvia front end on it?

[NemeGuero]

naw, must've reformatted the hard drive since then.. can't find it now. sorry

[240SeXy!]

^ thats too bad that would have been cool, arg once i get my s14 back on the road project sil-cutback-sx will commence on my 89 blk fastback :w00t:

[ghost240SX]

I'm jumpin on the 180SX Cutback bandwagon now as well, turning my 1991 240SX into a truck, gonna stick with the stock Tails, and I'm gonna make it a functional box with Diamond Plating lining the box, but not done all tastelessly like the Team Orange car, also I had a plan to put a powersliding window in the back as well, not sure what one to use, but we'll see, i'll post pics of the project and the results.

[240SeXy!]

^ Good luck i would be all flamie right now but, I mean I wasnt the first to think of it nor jump on, just a lil before you good luck and post pics and what ever you do, As will I when i get my rolling :x:

[theicecreamdan]

diamond plating is too blingy for me

[240SeXy!]

:goyou: Meh i might do it, but not shiny, id do it ill alum. and spray it car color....

[http://www.big-boys.com/articles/mcvikram.html]-saved..

[FaLKoN240]

I would just get the rhino lining thing, and make it look as stock as possible.

[theicecreamdan]

black anodized aluminum would be sick

[240SeXy!]

yep thats what im plannin :D :w00t:

[theicecreamdan]

btw man, I hate you, I was actually pretty content on how my car loooked, and now I'm thinking

[240SeXy!]

Aww i hate you too, dont do it... hahah :nono: Think of cutting into the sweet sheet metal near your quarter panels... YUM! :eek2:

[theicecreamdan]

nothing feels better than using sharp tools and welders on my car

plus I'll probably need to hit it with a hammer, and thats fun

[240SeXy!]

hahaha like crissoning a Boat, smash a hammer on the cut away spot! :hyper:

[mike13]

hahaha like crissoning a Boat, smash a hammer on the cut away spot! :hyper:
jesus christ. shut the fuck up and go work on the car.

[theicecreamdan]

jesus christ, its the internet.

[240SeXy!]

jesus christ. shut the fuck up and go work on the car.


lighten up cocksmoker...

[TruckFortySX]

Mine...............

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8435/pict14526tm.jpg
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/6924/pict13646tc.jpg

Not done, but getting there :)

[FaLKoN240]

FINALLY!!! A GOOD REASON TO REVIVE AN OLD THREAD!!!

That looks really nice dude. You could give us some pointers on how to do it. . .

[HyperTek]

looks cool.. what rear windshield cut out did you go with? did you just cut the rear half of a trucks cabin??

[nigel1]

this is a pretty neat thread... I like the last one. nice work! just need to get some more cash flow and get a real body kit and wheels!

[hellion240sx]

props on the good job, think i like it with the bars showing. damn if i get another 240 i'm doing this. the del sol look isn't for me. if anything i would like to see it with the bars showing, then it would look good to me. i guess.

[TruckFortySX]

Thanks for the compliments...... it really is not that hard if you are familiar with sheetmetal cutting tools and welding, and most of all......planning ahead. The window is actually out of my brother's Mazda B2200 mini-truck (note the Suicidedoors.com "Drop and Destroy" sticker)........he replaced this one with a solid glass. The lower portion of the back seat is retained, and to tell you the truth, it's not that bad to ride back there. I cut the hatch-hinge ledge off but kept that "duckbill" sorta lip and ran a line from that edge to the crease in the floor where the "bed" drops to go under the rear seat. I originally made a cardboard mockup of the rear firewall, then copied it onto a sheat of 20ga (I think) tin. The sides near the b-pillar were over-cut. I then made the panels to cover the b-pillars and trimmed the back edges to butt up to the firewall. The excess of the firewall was then trimmed to meet the new b-pillars and the seam was tacked into place. From there I started working rearward, boxing stuff in. The very rear panel will rivet in so I can access the taillights. I kinda got lazy after getting the cab wall in and still need to finish the thing, but if anyone wants closeups or anything, I could probably do that. Something else I did that I thought was cool is shaving the SOHC valve cover :) I like it.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4555/pict13736gm.jpg

[alexchanman]

thats a fucking monster.:))))

when building one of these, how do you go about the weight distribution??vvdo you just leave it? or do you put something back there to weigh it down?

[RedRum240]

lol I hope he doesnt mind but I have met the guy with the cut back 180, it looks VERY really nice in person. he pulled into my work parking lot and he has a weilded differential lol it was the most badass thing to see it rolling into my boring work parking lot. for anyone who has ever thought they look stupid in pictures wait till you see them in person its one of the coolest thing ever it looks as if sombody came out with a minature truck with flip up lights lol its really cool. Im getting a new job at Lamb Weston so when I get situated there il be making 19$ an hour to be putting into my car. gonna either buy a SR20DET, or a RB20DET from Phase2Motortrend.

[TruckFortySX]

Alex, I personally like the light ass, and redrum, who are you? There are no 240 people around here so I must know you......?!?!?!?

[Slip&Sliden 240]

Redrum is the guy I got the mudflaps from. By the way I didnt get two rears, I got a front and a rear Redrum.

[dakine240]

Mine...............

http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8435/pict14526tm.jpg
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/6924/pict13646tc.jpg

Not done, but getting there :)


nice car man.... whered you get those wheels, i like them

[aa87]

they look like 280zx swatzikas black painted faces.

[ThatGuy]

^He's right, 280ZX wheels.

[alexchanman]

Alex, I personally like the light ass, and redrum, who are you? There are no 240 people around here so I must know you......?!?!?!?


thats too bad, im a man for the junk in the trunk.:boink:

[hellion240sx]

yes close ups please! my friend is thinking about moving down here and he is great at welding!!! and i'm going to see if i can get another 240 :D

[alexchanman]

a power back window would be sick on the cut 240sx. has anyone every contemplated this and can you just rip it off a tundra or something?

[slownslurious]

weld up the lines on the side of the hatch! thats looking pretty good though. If I did it I'd have a removeable rear wall for summer for sure. we are talking about doing it to my friends car but till we get more equipment its just that, talk... if I didn't have more work than I can handle I'd buy a junked fastback and do it myself.

[TruckFortySX]

Ya, I'd weld them, but I need a better hatch lip to start with anyways. This car has had something like 4 different wings on it.....:( There's a ton of bondo and who-knows-what on there. It's just tacked in because it looked rediculous w/ nothing there. -Late-

[RedRum240]

no way shawn? the previous owner must have done that. cause when i was puylling em off I noticed one was different on the rear and it was the exaughst side that appeared to have less mass on it. so I figured it was cut out cuz the exaughst was riding rather close to it. so that might be the exaughst side bro. cuz that smaller side bolts up perfect to the rear god now I feel like shit damnit. I dont have fronts either =( when I bought the car it only had 2 on the rear. fuck il get a hold of the guy who last owned it to see if I can get you the other set. im so sorry man I had no idea I thought one was supposed to be different cuz of the exaughst

[hellion240sx]

i'm not getting a spare 240 GGGRRRRrrrrAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! so i have to abort these plan. and my friend that welds moved down here, but the 240 that my "friend" was holding let the people tow it away! motherfucker!!!!! man am i super fuckin pisssed. i was gonna get it for freeeeeeeeee. all it needed was a head gasket!

[andrewmp6]

wasnt the car for sell on 240sx forums or somewhere odding one i seen was a r33 done up

[TopClassGarage]

a power back window would be sick on the cut 240sx. has anyone every contemplated this and can you just rip it off a tundra or something?


Haha naw the tundra is too new to find a whole back panel and window, Id be fine with the sliding glass :D

I should really be working on my cutback project... :wiggle:

[ramblux]

C.R. Laurence used to make a power roll-down rear window for trucks, including mini-trucks. However, they were discontinued about 15 years ago.... I used to have one in my '84 Toyota Xtra Cab, but sold the whole truck a while back.

Maybe you could find one online somewhere?

[hellion240sx]

heh you can find them here in new orleans , ya'll won't believe some of the cars that were messed up! i saw a 240... sniff .... i can't type it i'm gonna cry.... its gone.

[TruckFortySX]

Ya, the "truck" is actually for sale right now. JIC FLTA-2's for footwork. Here's a current pics. $3k OBO.



http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8623/pict15730hv.jpg



Got nothin on the glitter paint......

[slownslurious]

needs lengthened like that vette pickup truck on ebay.. just looks too short.

[EchoOfSilence]

wtf is up with the paint? it looks like an fc lol

[alexchanman]

glitter paint? it just loooks reallllllly dirty there.

[TruckFortySX]

It is actually glitter on primer, lol. Used some clear to create a tacky surface and sprinkled away....

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9863/pict15714xe.jpg

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8433/pict15796wj.jpg

Oh, ya, that fender IS crinkled.....it's not the paint that makes it look that way. haha

[philly blunt]

do you have anymore pics of the rear? or interior where the rear was?

[trevor]

It is actually glitter on primer, lol. Used some clear to create a tacky surface and sprinkled away....

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9863/pict15714xe.jpg

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8433/pict15796wj.jpg

Oh, ya, that fender IS crinkled.....it's not the paint that makes it look that way. haha
hahahahahaha thats the funnyst thing i have seen in a long time....glitter...hahahahaha

[alexchanman]

i would like to seem some pics of the bed as well as the rear too.

[kookoo4kouki]

i too am in the works of a sil-camino as you guys call it...i had a question though...the hatch gets cut but if you look where the body should be flat for a pick-up looking sqaure edged bed like in the pic of the brown one, the body is rounded and has contours that i cant figure how to work with...an idea i thought of for the rear window is to cut the back wall with window out of a truck. lol...then cut it till it fits...thanks guys
-Kevin

[TruckFortySX]

quite a few have asked me what the thing weighs. I had not weighed it until yesterday. It weighed out at a *rough* (+/- 10lbs.) 2500. Not sure out distribution, yet. I will get it on a set of scales soon. Here's a pic of the insidde of the "cab", lol, for those that have wanted to see the interior. Oh, ya, some [email protected]#hole thought he'd be smart and try to break in......hence the sheetmetal panel in the slider.
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/9874/pict17292nd.jpg

Oh.....curious what *normal* fastbacks weigh.....full interior, etc. Has anyone actually weighed theirs that would care to chime in? Thanks, guys. _Late_