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jd-17

10-08-2005, 11:07 PM

Hi everyone this is my first time to this site. I have had my '92 240sx SE for about 2 months now and i love it. However I'm looking to upgrade as much as possible for under $10,000. If you could post suggestions for what i can do that would be great. Thanks for the info.

240mph

10-08-2005, 11:17 PM

Man if that's your limit you can do a whole lot.
LSD,Suspension,SR,etc.........

Father Time

10-08-2005, 11:24 PM

what do you plan on using the car for?

jd-17

10-08-2005, 11:26 PM

Daily driving, show, and racing...also a 92 is an s13 correct?

Father Time

10-08-2005, 11:38 PM

Daily driving, show, and racing...also a 92 is an s13 correct?

what sort of racing is what im getting at. that would help anyone trying to help you ;)
yes 92 is s13

ledzeppelin240

10-08-2005, 11:40 PM

Yeah its a s13 dude. But you have to compromise then if thats what you want. You can't have a true race car that is a show car and so on...

jd-17

10-08-2005, 11:40 PM

im not really sure yet but probably just short runs

jd-17

10-08-2005, 11:41 PM

Yeah its a s13 dude. But you have to compromise then if thats what you want. You can't have a true race car that is a show car and so on...
yea i know i want more of a daily driving car then a race.....i know that a new engine is a def tho so is the sr20 the best or what else is there

SimpleSexy180

10-09-2005, 12:09 AM

whats an sr? go ka-t...

mrmephistopheles

10-09-2005, 12:14 AM

jesus, search newblood.
All of you questions have been asked and answered numerous times.
Do some research and learn about your car so you don't have to ask simple questions.

nissantuner22

10-09-2005, 12:14 AM

daily driver= KA+T

jd-17

10-09-2005, 12:16 AM

jesus, search newblood.
All of you questions have been asked and answered numerous times.
Do some research and learn about your car so you don't have to ask simple questions.
very nice of you to call me a newb and yes i am...if im not mistaken the stock engine is a ka correct? i have researched the engine and all im seeing is adding a trubo along with other mods is that all i have to do to give my car some "zoom" or is there more work involved

jd-17

10-09-2005, 12:58 AM

litttle extra to add about my car its an automatic ( :hammer: )

Spdrules5

10-09-2005, 12:59 AM

kkkkkoooollll

jd-17

10-09-2005, 01:10 AM

ok im a bit confused as to what engine is in my car its a 92 SE model so what engine is it

viscid240

10-09-2005, 01:18 AM

I have an sr millions have an sr blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lmao. Sorry a little on the tipsy side :faint: . Go RB.... and def. upgrade the suspension and rims. look into the silkroad group buy :mrmeph: j/k....lmao..

jd-17

10-09-2005, 01:23 AM

viscid240

10-09-2005, 01:27 AM

Rb skyline swap v6 etc,etc,.........lol. yeah i wouldn't understand myself in person either, not now at least. But, yeah do an rb25/26. You looking into 1/4 mile drift or just a street (weekend) vehicle?

jd-17

10-09-2005, 01:29 AM

viscid240

10-09-2005, 01:35 AM

Look into the RB.. But, not to say the sr is not fun and can lay down some ass when needed. In all honesty do yourself a favor and do a suspension upgrade and wheel upgrade. Something you will want and need in the near if not soon future. I am in need of a susp. and wheel upg. Just some advice.

jd-17

10-09-2005, 01:39 AM

what is the stock engine in the SE model though?

viscid240

10-09-2005, 01:43 AM

ka24de.. dohc. I have a 89' which is a sohc ka24e. But, I swaped it out in favor of a sr20det/s13 redtop.. really upgrade suspension or as called all necessarry footwork possible. How many miles are on your engine?

jd-17

10-09-2005, 02:04 AM

not sure i have to check them tom because it is 4 in the morning i will probably just turbo it and add new coilovers and more....any suggestions for the coils

viscid240

10-09-2005, 02:23 AM

what's your budget on coils? I say silkroad I am planning on purchasing these, and everyone here who has them is very satisfied..

nistech

10-09-2005, 02:34 AM

i say cut ur springs and get a 150shots of nos.u are all set for suspension and power for only 500 dollars its so cheap u cant go wrong

jd-17

10-09-2005, 02:36 AM

i say cut ur springs and get a 150shots of nos.u are all set for suspension and power for only 500 dollars its so cheap u cant go wrong
i dont think thats street legal (nos) im not planning on doin races yet but only show and daily driving until i get used to the new stuff..where can i check out the silkroad?

also one quick question before i go watch tv has anyone had a problem with either of the doors where the door does not open from inside or out? i know its an easy fix but im just wondering if its a normal thing or just my car

nistech

10-09-2005, 04:00 AM

crazy ur doors does not open from inside or out that happened to me once i think its ur windshield wiper fluid is low or ur turbos on ur ka that happened to me once and i just replaced my turbos on my stock ka and problem solved

u got all these problems on ur car i say u sell ur 240 and buy something better like a 04 civic for 10 grand

SochBAT

10-09-2005, 04:29 AM

If you want street legal, i say leave the 240 alone. The only way to have a decently fast legal street import is a honda with a K-series engine. Hondas get lucky because all their <2.0liter engines are legal.

First of all, 240s are wallet killers, and thats not even in performance modding. With all the tuneups you'll have to do to refurbish the car to NICE running standards, you'll in over your head. being as our cars are like, what, 16 years old, give or take a few years, ALOT of things should be/will need to be replaced.

Invest about 1k-1.5k to refurbishing the car. IE, new bushings, liquids, gaskets, all the jazz.

Eternal_240Sx

10-09-2005, 06:19 AM

i dont think thats street legal (nos) im not planning on doin races yet but only show and daily driving until i get used to the new stuff..

Sorry but your shit out of luck, almost everything your going to do is illegal.. Also there a search button on the right top side of the screen. All the questions you are asking can be found there. Yes you are a newb but that doesnt mean it is perfectly o.k. to ask whatever questions you want before searching.

IES13

10-09-2005, 06:54 AM

Well....personally opinion sell the car and use the $10K and buy a 240sx with a Sr20 already drop! If not buy fully adjustable coilover system.

S14DB

10-09-2005, 07:39 AM

i don't think that's street legal (nos) I'm not planning on doing races yet but only show and daily driving until i get used to the new stuff..where can i check out the silkroad?I don't think you have to worry about legality's in FL. Why do you have an S14 in your sig if you have a S13?

aznpoopy

10-09-2005, 08:07 AM

because it looks cool!

i recommend buying a FSM, start going through all the basic maintenance crap. get a good toolset, 4 jackstands and a nice jack and get to work.

SR240DET

10-09-2005, 08:27 AM

where abouts in florida you from... newb?

S14DB

10-09-2005, 08:37 AM

Looks like Tampa Bay.

Irukandji

10-09-2005, 09:43 AM

Heres a tip:

Save your $10k and buy an s14.

s13s drive me crazy with all these little things that break, rattle, squeek, and just plain don't sound right.

OR....

Search

jd-17

10-09-2005, 10:10 AM

i already tried to get a new car but my parents told me it would be too expensive with the car payments and insurance so i told them that i was going to fix up my 240.......I live in Tampa Bay for whpever asked and i know where Destin is been there like 6 times cuz my dad is up at tyndall

jd-17

10-09-2005, 10:42 AM

would a '94 prelude be worht it to get if i trade my 240 in or should i look at civics............my car has 118625 miles on it right now

vinhisbored

10-09-2005, 11:25 AM

Oh yeah..

1. Fast
2. Reliable
3. Cheap

You can only pick two! Remember that. I was told that when I 'sorta' asked the same question years ago. I'd say before you do anything, look up cars. Read people's setups, what they have, what everything actually does. Don't just go get tons of suspension just because everyone tells you to. Look at what's better about it, how it helps.. etc. If you're asking about that trade, just do it. Get a civic, they're fast. :)

S14DB

10-09-2005, 11:29 AM

This is totaly not Tech. Next time it's locked.

jd-17

10-09-2005, 11:34 AM

Tenchuu

10-09-2005, 11:37 AM

if you are seriously considering a honda, this might not be the board for you. to me at least a FWD car will never even come close to haveing the driveing enjoyment as a RWD. plus the 240s are kinda nimble little decently balenced beasts where not so mutchwith the honda. but to make it easy, look around in your area for clips/shops. foir motor swaps if that's what you want to do, and figure in EXTRA parts and like said before REFURBISHING especially on a s13

S14DB

10-09-2005, 11:44 AM

but are they faster than preludes or not
What Prelude? They came with different engines and different bodies had different weights. They are easier and cheaper to mod than the 240sx. So, you'll prolly have a faster car for less.

jd-17

10-09-2005, 12:01 PM

What Prelude? They came with different engines and different bodies had different weights. They are easier and cheaper to mod than the 240sx. So, you'll prolly have a faster car for less.
its a 94 prelude

S14DB

10-09-2005, 12:35 PM

its a 94 prelude
The VTEC Coupe puts out 190hp stock at the crank unlike the 240's 155hp. So, you have a lot more horsepower out of the box. Parts are cheaper and you get more power from Intake, Header, exhaust than you do on the 240.

jd-17

10-09-2005, 12:48 PM

The VTEC Coupe puts out 190hp stock at the crank unlike the 240's 155hp. So, you have a lot more horsepower out of the box. Parts are cheaper and you get more power from Intake, Header, exhaust than you do on the 240.
that alone sounds good it may be something i look into because it will be extremely expensive for my 240

Phlip

10-09-2005, 01:02 PM

Have you at least looked into what it would cost? You came into this thread all starry eyed and speaking as if you had a cap of 10k to spend on the 240SX, which is more than enough to complete suspension/brake/body and light engine work if that is what you desire, but now this has digressed to you selling rhe 240, unsure of whether a civic would be fast enough or a prelude would be cheap enough? I suggest that you make up your mind, do some research and help yourself before you ask others for help

viscid240

10-09-2005, 01:03 PM

I am just curious if you even bothered to look into the 240 much, before you even purchased it.
Test drive the lude' and see if you like the feel of it.
Yes, the 240 area is not a cheap ride but, if this is the car you want and like well try to remember to treat it as a hobby car. Althogu this is still most of our only if not primary vehicles.

When deciding which car to go with and fix it up to your needs. Always, keep it well maintained and keep it reliable. No sense in having a 12-10sec. car if it only does those runs 4-5 timies before blowing gaskets and rings. etc.

jd-17

10-09-2005, 01:16 PM

when i was looking for a car i had a limited budget and i was not planning on fixing it up it was only supposed to be a daily driver but now im starting to look into fixing it and i realize how expensive it is

nistech

10-09-2005, 01:56 PM

vvvvvvvv-tech aint nothing to to mess with crazy mad horsepower. and dont listen to people that say rwd is alot better because it doesnt matter u could drift with ur ebrake. hurry up sell ur 240 and buy that prelude.

Father Time

10-09-2005, 02:34 PM

you guys know hes just a kid. why shit all over him like he should know better.

I have a 2000 prelude 5spd. stock for stock the lude is faster than an s14. but again it depends on what you want to do. the lude is a daily for the ol lady and the 14 is for daily/scca/drift. I would never plan on anything more out of the prelude just because its a fwd. not my idea of sport, but thats just me.
If youre just wanting to show with a little go i would say prelude for you. just because youre young and the lude will hold up better with less$$$.

EchoOfSilence

10-09-2005, 03:27 PM

Irukandji

10-09-2005, 04:31 PM

Sounds like you need an Eclipse yo!

Those are fastarrrr than 240's And Preludes...

Shit if you have ten grand you can get naawwwsssssssss

Irukandji

10-09-2005, 04:33 PM

and If you have $10,000 to start off, i'd start with a better base and not build off a 240.

I agree...

the s13 240sx is fun and cheap ... but I don't think it would be wise to dump so much money into it. Sure...4-5k is reasonable, but don't go all out on a 15 year old car that doesnt even have good weight distribution and doesnt even have a cupholder...

EchoOfSilence

10-09-2005, 05:03 PM

I agree...

the s13 240sx is fun and cheap ... but I don't think it would be wise to dump so much money into it. Sure...4-5k is reasonable, but don't go all out on a 15 year old car that doesnt even have good weight distribution and doesnt even have a cupholder...
my cupholder's between my doorpanel and my seat. holds 'em snug, too.
But yeah, I agree. there are better cars out there for that much $$. might get lucky enough for an fd, but... how old are you?

S14DB

10-09-2005, 05:10 PM

Sounds like you need an Eclipse yo!

Those are fastarrrr than 240's And Preludes...

Shit if you have ten grand you can get naawwwsssssssss
Hahahaha... You're so funny... :squint: :goyou: :rolleyes: :squintd: :keke:

nistech

10-09-2005, 05:25 PM

i have been trying really hard s14db how come no props for me :(

theicecreamdan

10-09-2005, 05:31 PM

you don't wanna get props from mr db, his props hurt.

EchoOfSilence

10-09-2005, 05:31 PM

i have been trying really hard s14db how come no props for me :(
:whip::rofl:

jd-17

10-09-2005, 06:36 PM

my cupholder's between my doorpanel and my seat. holds 'em snug, too.
But yeah, I agree. there are better cars out there for that much $$. might get lucky enough for an fd, but... how old are you?
lol my cupholder right now is between my legs or on the passenger seat

nistech

10-09-2005, 06:57 PM

lol my cupholder right now is between my legs or on the passenger seat

thats ur penis bro :nono:

redsuns3838

10-09-2005, 06:58 PM

oops. started out reading the first page, decided not to flame, and just answer his initial question. then i realized the direction that the thread was heading and now, aww F it :loco:

blackflag_Rms13

10-09-2005, 06:59 PM

Wait, so your parents told you that a newer car is too expensive, yet you have a 10k budget?
<-----Confused

jd-17

10-09-2005, 07:00 PM

im saving up for a big purchase but i dont want a newer car that has the new stuff i ant to do it myself and if i have to buy over 10 then its not worth it to do esp. for my first car

KA24DESOneThree

10-09-2005, 08:24 PM

thats ur penis bro :nono:

Funny comment.
:D

DrIvEsldEwAyS

10-09-2005, 08:42 PM

im saving up for a big purchase but i dont want a newer car that has the new stuff i ant to do it myself and if i have to buy over 10 then its not worth it to do esp. for my first car

im currently building a 90 240 for my first car and ill have 10g or more in it before i get to drive it for the first time..its not a bad thing. so do what you want, its your car. research and spend that money. if not give it to me i could spend it for you.

FaLKoN240

10-09-2005, 11:32 PM

you guys know hes just a kid. why shit all over him like he should know better.

This is Zilvia, HE should not have come on this board expecting we would put the spoon in his mouth for him. His questions are ridiculously stupid, he could look underneath the hood and get the answers to his question.

As for what is faster, I believe that owning a 240sx in terms of speed is definately a preference on your driving style. If you want a fast drag car, you can have it in a 240sx or Prelude, or any car for that matter, IF you have the money. If you want to drag, get a CRX, and a crazy ass engine swap/build up.

If you're liking RWD, then go ahead and make your car into a drag car, I'd like to see a build up of a drag S13. I know there are a lot of them, but most of the RECENT threads are "My Drift S-chassis"

You need to search, normally you would get flamed to death but for some reason everyone decided to be abnormally leniant. Consider yourself lucky.

OdessaS13

10-09-2005, 11:55 PM

do you really want to invest 10k into a 92 car (almost 14 years old, check production date on side of door). you can make it nice but in the end you will still have a car worth about 1k with 10k of shit put into into.

chlatboy

10-10-2005, 01:05 AM

and he is slowly jumping off the 240 bandwagon. Seriously man, if you want something fast, get a DSM!!!

Father Time

10-10-2005, 09:44 AM

hes a kid dude. after he pays for mods on the dsm he has to pay for all the broken parts every month. ASSuming it runs every month. ive been dsming for 10 years, from bpu to big power, its nothing but money and tears

jd-17

10-10-2005, 12:40 PM

yea im finding this out slowly my car already had to have $500 put in because power steering fluid was leaking and now i think radiator fluid is leaking and oil is too.....i think im just going to stick with my KA24 for now and put a turbo in it if anyone has any good sites where i can research and purchase one for this engine please tell me...also i will not be jumping off this bandwagon because i love my car no matter how many things break on it

edit: another thing to add how can i be sure that i have a KA in my car now because i read somewhere a few minutes ago that 9 out of 10 240's have them in them already but i want to be sure that i have one

DriftersInc

10-10-2005, 01:22 PM

A word of advice..Get yourself something reliable and economical for now. When you get a out of school/college/whatever buy something and then start building, this is assuming you have a good job.

In the meantime, Save your money and learning as much as possible about driving/racing, engines, suspension, etc. Sure, it won't be fun driving around that old econo box, but you'll have alot more time to focus on performance and tuning it when you have the time and money, not to mention alot of wasted effort on something that is not worthwhile.

Oh yeah, don't get caught up in current import tuning trends, most of the modification the tuner do have nothing to do with performance, it just looks as if it does. Follow proven formulas to modify a car for performance, not bling clouded in a facade of speed. A design principal to follow is that "form follows function", look it up if you don't know about it. Otherwise, your just endup making a fast looking lowrider.

I say go for the prelude and keep it low key or "on the dL". It should more reliable than and economical then the 240 as a dialy driver. It all depends on what your plans are for the future. You need to figure what your goals/plan before you do anything, think 5+ years into the future. Godspeed!

S14DB

10-10-2005, 01:30 PM

Turbo is not the first mod you should be looking at. Especially if you don't even know what engine is in your car.

TougeRacing

10-10-2005, 04:15 PM

there are two kinds of ka's, Ka24e and ka24de <---type those in google image n just match it to whatever you see under the hood. eaaaaassyy assss piieeeeeeeeeee MmmMMm gooood!

240SeXy!

10-10-2005, 04:24 PM

wow pwnage from all sides. ^^ so you thought it was a good idea to post... :wiggle:

sw20>>s14

10-10-2005, 05:23 PM

truthfully, id go with the prelude...if its that gen, its got a lot of potential...iirc, the s coupe has 135, the si has 160, and the vtech has 190...the h22a is a very commendable motor...a little on the heavy side, but commendable...it sounds like your a good kid with good intentions and by all means, everybody starts somewhere...just so happens that you started with a car that is surrounded by assbags (falkon240 :fawkd: jk mang...) that get butthurt easily...but next time, scope the board and all its entirety before posting opinion based questions...i dont mind reading redundant threads, but most/all do...enjoy your stay at zilvia :D

OdessaS13

10-10-2005, 05:47 PM

i think im just going to stick with my KA24 for now and put a turbo in it if anyone has any good sites

google.com
but seriously there are mutliple sites that discuss that including a very good forum dedicated espessially to turboing KA's ill give u a hint, KA-T.org
and be ready to build your block before you even consider a turbo

edit: another thing to add how can i be sure that i have a KA in my car now because i read somewhere a few minutes ago that 9 out of 10 240's have them in them already but i want to be sure that i have one

please post the link were you read that

and he is slowly jumping off the 240 bandwagon

lol :rofl:
hahaha wow.. talk about :axe:

yes but that is funny, thank you for making me laugh wenever i read this thread :D have a good day

jd-17

10-11-2005, 03:27 PM

you can close this my friend is selling his BMW 318 for 6500 so im buying that...i just cracked the flywheel so i decided to get rid of it sorry for your wasted time

SimpleS14

10-11-2005, 04:02 PM

awesome......I mean gettin the BMW...its better than the S13 IMO.

Have fun with it and try to sell your S13 to another noob.

Nice car in your sig....

jd-17

10-11-2005, 06:34 PM

awesome......I mean gettin the BMW...its better than the S13 IMO.

Have fun with it and try to sell your S13 to another noob.

Nice car in your sig....
yea cracking the flywheel was the last straw with all the problems luckily i know someone who is getting me the part for half of what i should be paying