V8 Swap gaining popularity?

[anyotherone]

I've noticed a bunch of threads lately on several different boards which makes me think there is a lot of interest in V8 into S13/S14 swaps.

It seems to me that if someone were to sell a kit like the McKinney or Tophat RB kits, "normal" people would start doing this swap, just like when people first started swapping RB's. Since the LS1 weighs no more than an RB25, which wieghs less than a RB26, the whole "your going to ruin your handling" thing is out the window. As far as cost goes, I see LS1's and LT1's going on Ebay for about what an RB does in a lot of cases... a little wiring, proper manifolds, etc... it seems like it's not a redicules idea.

I personally would leap at the chance to have a completely stock Ls1 in my S14... I cannot imagine what double the horsepower and torque at any given RPM would feel like. I guess it would be similar to the FC/FD ls1 swap which has gained popularity recently.

So what do you guys think?

[wootwoot]

I want a vh45de

[kazuo]

LS1 won't fit a S13 apparently... that is, without an excessive amount of "persuasion."

Var was gonna do it, but then he didn't cause it wouldn't fit.

Dunno about S14.

[Banned]

V8's have been dropped into s13's before. There's a video on here somewhere too. There's also a couple of Ls1 s14's I've seen on other forums. Var didnt do it because a V8 fits into an FC much easier. I just saw Todd's last night and it truely looked like the ls1 belonged in there.

[turbo_lover]

I believe they are gaining popularity in ESPECIALLY FD3S's. Why? I'd ask them. I dont think it is very smart... rotary=lightweight V8+ RX7 = omg, my car weighs 250lbs heavier than it did. I dont think is a good power-to-weight ratio compared to a regualr rotary motor.

[WanganRunner]

I'd like to see an LT-5 S14....but that'll never happen. No one with that kind of money would ever put it in an S14.

Personally, I'd personally like to have an L28 swap. Does anyone know if this has been done? I know it's a fairly long engine, but I can't imagine it'd be too terribly much longer than an RB25, which physically fits in the bay just fine. I think that a 3.1L stroked L28 in an S14 would be an extremely neat car, and broken stuff would be cheaper to fix than it would be on an RB or SR.

[drift freaq]

I'd like to see an LT-5 S14....but that'll never happen. No one with that kind of money would ever put it in an S14.

Personally, I'd personally like to have an L28 swap. Does anyone know if this has been done? I know it's a fairly long engine, but I can't imagine it'd be too terribly much longer than an RB25, which physically fits in the bay just fine. I think that a 3.1L stroked L28 in an S14 would be an extremely neat car, and broken stuff would be cheaper to fix than it would be on an RB or SR.

oh man, don't tell me you resurrected the older technology engine thats more expensive to get equal to stock RB hp idea. give it up, a build on a L28 to get it up to RB HP will cost as much as a RB swap. On top of that RB has more potential.
a 3.1 stroked L28 revs like shit unless you do some heavy ass machine work to your crank and put some crazy cams in. Then you have thrown your stock engine reliability right out the window . You will have a race engine that will last 10k if your lucky.
At least with the V8 your going to have a reliable stock engine same with a RB.

someone come close this thread please this has been hashed over way to many times.

[blu808]

I believe they are gaining popularity in ESPECIALLY FD3S's. Why? I'd ask them. I dont think it is very smart... rotary=lightweight V8+ RX7 = omg, my car weighs 250lbs heavier than it did. I dont think is a good power-to-weight ratio compared to a regualr rotary motor.


The ls1 motor itself is lighter then the 13brew. The only additional weight is sourced from the heavier t56 tranny 74 pounds more.

The ls1 fd3s handles the same as the rotary.




An ls1 can be dropped into a s13 or a s14, In order to clear the crossmember you need to use a chevy trailblazer 5.7 l oil pan, and pickup.

Or you can use a ls7 motor that has a flat oil pan for the dry sump. That would also fit.

In addition if you would like to use a t56 6 speed then you will have to widen the tranny tunnel. A t5 tremic will work however since the size is smaller.

[drift freaq]

The ls1 motor itself is lighter then the 13brew. The only additional weight is sourced from the heavier t56 tranny 74 pounds more.

The ls1 fd3s handles the same as the rotary.




An ls1 can be dropped into a s13 or a s14, In order to clear the crossmember you need to use a chevy trailblazer 5.7 l oil pan, and pickup.

Or you can use a ls7 motor that has a flat oil pan for the dry sump. That would also fit.

In addition if you would like to use a t56 6 speed then you will have to widen the tranny tunnel. A t5 tremic will work however since the size is smaller.

now this is better than trying to talk about sticking a L28 in . Plus he has the install info in his post. :thumbsup:

[theicecreamdan]

I'll do an LS7 swap long before I end up putting 13 grand into an SR build.

[young gun]

The ls1 motor itself is lighter then the 13brew. The only additional weight is sourced from the heavier t56 tranny 74 pounds more.

The ls1 fd3s handles the same as the rotary.




An ls1 can be dropped into a s13 or a s14, In order to clear the crossmember you need to use a chevy trailblazer 5.7 l oil pan, and pickup.

Or you can use a ls7 motor that has a flat oil pan for the dry sump. That would also fit.

In addition if you would like to use a t56 6 speed then you will have to widen the tranny tunnel. A t5 tremic will work however since the size is smaller.

amen, v8 so heavvy blah blah blah, its been proven time and time again fc+v8=reliable and faster then a t2 for the money

[vinhisbored]

I say everyone listen to drift freaq and get an RB25, obviously, you can't change his mind, it seems to me that RB25 >> every other motor to him. Haha I guess the only way to go 'beyond' it in his eyes is an RB26!

[Ian]

i want an LS1 but i cant afford it...oh well

until my SR blows...i have "silvia" lol


i'd love to pop my hood and have it say "corvette" right on the valve covers

that would make my day as i breeze past Z06's lol

[max_misawa]

the older LS1's go for 1500 or so
thats engine trans wiring etc etc etc
all you would need is a custom drive shaft and some engine/trans mounts

all alluminum block and alluminum heads does not sound heavy to me
having 325hp stock sounds nice too
get a cam for $399(new) and have 400 to the wheels WHOOOOO WEEEEE sounds like a party to me

Max

[TwoFourO]

If anybody could link more information about the V-8 swap including pics, information, or just anything at all that would be freaking awesome and I'd love you forever...Thanks! BTW seems like a badass concept to me...you may trip some people out though with that low rumble.

[redsuns3838]

just search it up. this topic has come up many times if you try a search you should be able to find ample info. its not a 1 day swap tho if thats what ur thinking, its a project that will take time and if your not already familiar with ur engine and car (im not accusing u of anything so dont take offense) you should probly just go with an SR or possibly RB swap.

but yeah back to ur question, just search =)

[TwoFourO]

Yeah I've searched it up a couple of times it just seems like the information is pretty scattered about. There are things that people are saying will and won't work, etc. I was just hoping there was a solid link out there that could stamp out the myths and cover the necessities about the V-8 swap. The discussion as to wether or not its better or worse than swapping RB's or other motors has been covered enough, but the actual process of putting the v8 into the car hasn't been covered thoroughly enough in my opinion. The search option is also somewhat limited because you cannot search for the term 'V8' as it is too small.

[blu808]

torquecentral.com has a v8 rx7 forum, but not much on the 240s.

The older ls1 motors have an aluminum intake manifold, smaller cam, weak rod bolts, oil consumption problems, etc. They are still great motors for the price.

[TUnity2]

In an issue of grassroots motorsports they did a conetest for who cculd build and auto x car for $2005 and they had 2 s13's with carbed v8's in them.

[shinrekka]

As someone previously wrote about the L28 swap, i would love to put an oldskool 280ZX turbo engine in my S13. Their so freakin simple and realy easy to get 300hp out of. Even non turbo L28's dont need to much to reach 300hp. I love their sound, cheapness to fix and it would just be awsome to me.

On the V8 note, i wouldnt mind putting a ford 302 in my car. There IS a video on Limewire of a 240SX with a mustang engine. Looked pretty sick.

[blu808]

As someone previously wrote about the L28 swap, i would love to put an oldskool 280ZX turbo engine in my S13. Their so freakin simple and realy easy to get 300hp out of. Even non turbo L28's dont need to much to reach 300hp. I love their sound, cheapness to fix and it would just be awsome to me.

On the V8 note, i wouldnt mind putting a ford 302 in my car. There IS a video on Limewire of a 240SX with a mustang engine. Looked pretty sick.


The only problem is the l26 and l28 motors are hella heavy. Same with the 302.

The only option would be a ls1 to make the car handle decently.

[drift freaq]

I say everyone listen to drift freaq and get an RB25, obviously, you can't change his mind, it seems to me that RB25 >> every other motor to him. Haha I guess the only way to go 'beyond' it in his eyes is an RB26!
man dude, just because I happen to like something, does not mean I am not open to other ideas.
I posted in this thread that Blu808 had the right idea with the LS1 conversion for the FD.
I am a big fan of a couple of things though, that is, being able to put a different engine from the same manufacturer in that turns our reliable HP and having a powerful engine.
Now the RB is a much better engine to install than a L28. I have a lot of experience with the old L Series engines. 5 510's and 10 240z's will do that to you. Now that being said the RB is a much superior engine to the L28 which is a waste in time even for a lot of Z car owners these days.
Check the Z forums for the amount of 240z owners that are now throwing RB's into their cars instead of L28's.
Do not put words in my mouth I never said the RB was better than anything but it is better than a L28 .

[non2os13]

ls1 tech has a few in hybrid threads. they seem to think the holden oilpans will work, because they are front sump. i am also planning an ls1 swap. i have the car, ls1 and t56 tranny. we'll see what happens. i wanted solid motor mounts but i don't wanna take the chance of aluminum block damage from engine torque.

[leeshutup]

guess im luckey my dad is getting rid of his 425 wheel ls1 with 11k miles for a 427...

guess im going to be really fast soon...