Alternative to Enthalpy Rom tuning

[TheSparo]

A place in CA called EFI specialists. Kheim over there has been awesome, i sent him my ECU and he tuned it for me for all the things i provided i had. Turnaround was 1day. Yea, one day, amazing guy, he is the most helpful person i have encountered thus far.(though i must say i have not spoken with Scott before)
I have not yet dyno'd my car yet, but i expect great results(from the driveablilty i did have). And the price is under the $500 other places charge. I am not saying that they aren't worth it, but this is just another alternative for the others out there.
I suggest you give him a call before you buy another tune, he also does re-tunes for $40 compared to $100... prices may have changed a little though so don't hold me to it. I can't stress enough how enormously helpful this guy is.

His number is 510-303-6530 and the website is www.efispecialist.com
and no i don't work for them, i just wanted to give a heads up to anyone out there who thinks $500 is a little much for a ROM tune, oh yea, tell him I sent ya ;)

[Flybert]

With Scott (enthalpy), you are paying for his experience with tuning SR's. He's dyno tuned so many different setups, it's not even funny. He knows what works and he knows what doesn't. He also knows how all the different brand injectors differ in terms of their flow characteristics. I'd say a lot of people pay the extra cost for the peace of mind that he provides. When you think about it that way, a few extra hundred isn't much of a sacrifice.

[TheSparo]

i understand what you're saying, but if you can get the same performance and reliability for cheaper... why not? and i agree with you on the injectors part, but that can be taught ;) just trying to give a heads up to everybody up there, not trying to start a debate on who's better and who's not...

[kazuo]

Enthalpy (Scott) has experience under his belt and is proven.

This guy, no one has heard of.

Not bagging the guy you went to, all I'm sayin' is, no one really knows for sure.

Dyno comparisons (and who blows up cars) say it all...

[EchoOfSilence]

just do it yourself.

[SochBAT]

Its kinda like "I'll do your engine swap for you for 100bucks," and "I'll do your swap for you for 400, and yes, this will be probably my 33278137 swap, so i know what im doing, and i know all the neat tricks for doing it in as quick as possible, and have it running in tiptop shape when you recieve it. If you don't believe me, please ask my clients about my work. I'm sure you won't be dissapointed."

Damn, talk about run on sentences! Or actually, sentence.

[TheSparo]

he's had lots of clients, but he just isn't well known throughout the forums, and that's what i am trying to do...

[sr240mike]

He used to sell Enthalpy and JWT ecu's on craigslist too, [email protected] was his email. What this tells me (and most people who know about rom tuning know) is that he would buy other companies ecu's, copy them, open them up with rom editor, make a few changes, then resell his "new" program. This can all be done with about $100 in hardware/software. The chips and daughterboard cost him about $50, so anything over that is pure profit. Im 100% positive that he has not tuned almost all of his programs on a dyno and that he used theoretical values for programming, which by the way are already done for you on the Free Programs that are out there. http://ecu2.forumwise.com/

[killjoy]

Haha, Owned!

[Mike Wazowski]

Ohhh this thread just got really good.

[Jeff240sx]

TheSparo - before repping someone's product, you should either have empyrical evidence (i.e. your ecu is making withing xx% of Enthalpy's ecu), or a side-by-side comparison of his ecu vs. Scott's ecu on a similar setup.
-Jeff

[crazy9ceguy]

kool....................

[Ghettokracker71]

Go with Hondata or Uberdata....





Wait forget that,my mind is in the honda gutter :-(.







LOL:)

[TheSparo]

I've edited this out. Sorry The Sparo.

and since when are dyno numbers the all tell tale of power? well i guess to serve your quench, i will go dyno it when i have some extra money and time to drive somewhere rather than where i am at (no dyno nearby)

[S14DB]

what proof do you have saying he stole them? and if he did, i obviously didn't have any clue about it. and since when are dyno numbers the all tell tale of power? well i guess to serve your quench, i will go dyno it when i have some extra money and time to drive somewhere rather than where i am at (no dyno nearby)
How else to you plan to gather empirical data? The seat of your ass?

From the data he does provide the tunes seem more padded then JWT. 11:1 A:F, eww talk about rich.

[TheSparo]

How else to you plan to gather empirical data? The seat of your ass?

From the data he does provide the tunes seem more padded then JWT. 11:1 A:F, eww talk about rich.

im just asking if you have proof that he didn't find this out himself... and who said anything about 11:1 A:F?? im confused

[S14DB]

im just asking if you have proof that he didn't find this out himself... and who said anything about 11:1 A:F?? im confused
http://www.efispecialist.com/s13sr20det-a-r-spec.html
I guess you didn't read the specs on your miracle tune.

You still didn't answer my dyno question.

[TheSparo]

http://www.efispecialist.com/s13sr20det-a-r-spec.html
I guess you didn't read the specs on your miracle tune.

You still didn't answer my dyno question.

wow dude, you're obviously blowing this way out of proportion... if you feel more comfortable paying $500 for an ROM tune, then go for it, i didn't see the need to spend the extra money IF (yes i said if) i could get close to the same tune for less... i'm not a dedicated racer like you must be by your attitude... i'm looking for a nicely power 240 that is daily reliable and fun to drive... again if you feel the need to spend more on a ROM tune, well to each his own, i am not putting anyone down, so chill the hell out

[Jeff240sx]

We're not talking about max power here. We're talking about drivablilty, fuel economy, response, and a few other things that are based on A:F and timing.
Anyway, get what you want. $500 is a drop in the bucket knowing that if there's an issue with Scott's tune, he'll resend a new chip, with zero downtime on your end, and no more money out of the pocket. Knowing that Scott will extract the most power at the safest air/fuel ratios, and that Scott has written each and every one of his programs, and has years of tuning, and a few SR20 horsepower records under his belt.
-Jeff

[sr240mike]

Did you pay the price listed on there site? I see some of their auctions going for VERRRy cheap on ebay right now. Because of the forum listed above safe rom tunes are available for 300zx's for $50 instead of JWT's $500. I dont doubt that EFI specialists tunes are safe to run. If more people learned how to tune 90-96 Nissan ecu's we would see Rom tune prices like in Japanese car mags, $60 US. Tuning ecu's is very easy to anyone who takes the time to learn.

[supportTHEezln]

Most Japanese ROM tunes are comparable actually from what I've read, what catalog were you looking at? Also, I too think this guy is just copying Enthalpy, considering he only offers what Enthalpy or less. Meaning if Enthalpy doesn't have a tune, this guy doesn't either I.E. S14 SR's. (which Scott is finishing up I hear.)

[Jeff240sx]

Well.. the s13 sr20 ecu uses an eeprom, I believe. And the s14 sr20 ecu probably uses a daughterboard, or a different data delivery stream. It's not a lack of map issue. It was a technology issue of some sort for a long time. Like us OBD-2 KA guys.
-Jeff

[TheSnail]

SnailTuned Ecu's
Group buys will be 75%, but here is the intro price.

100$- 1 resistor (200hp)
150$- 2 resistors(250hp)
175$- 3 resistors(It pings at anything above 700rpm, which means you have atleast 300hp.)

For further info, contact me at [email protected]

[kazuo]

He doesnt offer what Enthalpy is offering for less, unless he is straight copying Enthalpy's maps... cause its dyno-proven that Enthalpy's map nets at least 40hp over JWT... at LEAST.

So, yeah.

This guy is either copying other people's tunes, or he's selling junk.

The JDM tunes do hardly anything... mostly just remove the limiters and are slightly more aggressive, but no 40hp gains. Nothign even close.

[SochBAT]

Common Sense for the WIN!!!

Sorry, this isn't really like me.

Then again, being an artist, i know the feel of being victim to piracy and plaggerism.

And yea, dynos do prove things. Y do you think there are DynoWhores? Its good to compare things.

[ALTRNTV]

This thread is going nowhere fast.

I'd still get from Scott if I wanted a ROM tune.

[Rezlo]

I would use scott if i could but after talking to him he said im kinda on my own with my WF ecu in my S14 200sx (eu spec)

Anyone used a daugter board or similar on the S14's? or is there any other way of tunning it for my Z32 and 550's besides a S-afc which, and no i cant afford stand alone :(

[Enthalpy]

you guys can buy from whomever you like. there is a reason that there are $150 turbo manifolds and $1200 turbo manifolds. some people understand quality and customer service and are willing to pay what that is worth. as for people copying my tunes...i cant say either way becasue i dont have proof. but in today's world it wouldnt surprise me. read the fine print tho guys...1-2 WEEKS for delivery?? RS Enthalpy has always included NEXT DAY AIR return shipping on ALL orders. part of the reason my price is higher...

[eyustfu]

I can vouch for scott, i got my ecu back the next day. Great guy, great service, great customer support... what more can you ask for?

[sr240mike]

Snail and Jeff you have no idea what you are talking about. They are not resistors and ALL sr20det ecu's use daughterboards. In fact everyone that offers their technical opinion who has not tuned an ecu before is talking out of there asses right now. All I know, FOR A FACT, is that he was selling name brand ecu's on craigslist at one time (about 6-12 months ago), and he started up this new company and is making money. The only things that would be valueable from other peoples tunes are 1. timing 2. fuel. If he did buy and look at other's tunes it would be like taking someone elses carb jet settings and timing settings for a 69 camaro. After you get an idea of where everything should be, everything else is already figured out for you with FREEEEE software.

[Jeff240sx]

Snail and Jeff you have no idea what you are talking about. They are not resistors and ALL sr20det ecu's use daughterboards. In fact everyone that offers their opinion who has not tuned an ecu before is talking out of there asses right now.

I have no idea what I'm talking about? I didn't mention resistors. I mentioned eeproms. And, if my "it could be this or that, or this" not-for-sure post didn't come through as me saying "I've never opened a sr20 ecu, but I know for a fact it's a technology issue limiting s14 sr20det ecu tunes," you need a reading comprehension class. I don't know about sr20 ecus. I do know why there isn't a s14 sr20 tune.
Other than that.. you should lay off the hateraid. You've offered ZERO legit information in your post..
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

The only things that would be valueable from other peoples tunes are 1. timing 2. fuel. If he did buy and look at other's tunes it would be like taking someone elses carb jet settings and timing settings for a 69 camaro. After you get an idea of where everything should be, everything else is already figured out for you with FREEEEE software.

Oh, just the timing and fuel is needed? Why didn't you say so. I'm not going to pay Scott $300 to tune my bikirom, because all he's going to give me are the timing and fuel maps. I've got those written down on a bar napkin that I got from the strip club last night. Didn't know it was so easy.
Just... stop.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

If he did buy and look at other's tunes it would be like taking someone elses carb jet settings and timing settings for a 69 camaro. After you get an idea of where everything should be, everything else is already figured out for you with FREEEEE software.

And finally, this bit shows a lack of common sense. 1969 Camaro options:
Engine size: 305/350/383/400/427/ect. Carb size: 600cfm, 650cfm, 750cfm, 800cfm, ect. Cam size: Any of the 5 choices from the 5 major manufacturers. Piston compression: stock 9:1, 10:1, 10.5:1, 11:1, ect. Lifter setup: 1.5:1, 1.6:1, 1.7:1. Valve sizing is limitless. There are a dozen head choices, not to mention custom ported heads. A couple dozen intake manifolds. Many dozen headers.

Sr20det: 95% fall into
Engine size: 2.0L. Compression: 8.5:1. Stock cams, stock intake, stock or elcheapo exhaust manifold, t2x turbo, one of 4 or 5 injector sizes, and one of two mafs.

Yep. Thousands of different 1969 setups vs. a dozen - mostly meaningless (turbo manifold choice ex. peak boost, full race, or any other $1,000 manifold) or easy to change for (fuel injectors) - sr20det setups.

-Jeff

[sr240mike]

You are taking this way too personally, Snail mentioned resistors. YOU SAID S13's USED EPROMS, they use daughterboards. Get off your high horse, you know nothing about the subject. GO TO THE FORUMS I LISTED BEFORE AND START READING SON.

[S14DB]

And what's on that Daughter board? That's right, EPROM.

Having read a couple hundred pages on ECU's and having a couple thousand on my desk left to read for my own tuning. I can say that ECU's are a lot more complex than a Jet in a carb. Those generic set ups made get you in the ballpark to make your engine run. But, they are far from tuned to your setup. You more than likely will have to get a SAFC to trim the ECU to you set up negating the cost benefits. This seems to be on par with the JWT tunes.

[cyanide]

just get a bikirom and tune it yourself

[420sx]

just remember before you say no to expensive experienced tunning:


there is no substitute for first hand experience and knowledge.


have a good day now

[TheSparo]

well, i guess i will just update this thread to post dyno results if i ever have time to drive to the nearest out of town dyno... so if we could keep this thread open... that would be great :)

[TheSnail]

Me talking about resistors was a joke. Im not implying anything, simply a joke.

[sr240mike]

Well for anyone saying that its not as simple as just tuning the air/fuel and timing please read my posts again, the free software that is currently out for obd1 NISSAN ecu's does EVERYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD NEED TO.

[Jeff240sx]

sr240mike - fuck off. Did I claim to be a tuning guru? Did I say anything other than the basics of what is in a good tune We're talking about drivablilty, fuel economy, response, and a few other things that are based on A:F and timing.?

Did I say that I knew exactly what was in the ecu? Well.. the s13 sr20 ecu uses an eeprom, I believe. And the s14 sr20 ecu probably uses a daughterboard, or a different data delivery stream. It's not a lack of map issue. It was a technology issue of some sort for a long time. Like us OBD-2 KA guys.

No to either. But I did say why nobody has made an s14 sr20det map. So am I taking this personally? You're goddamn right. You are being an arrogant jackoff that is slinging insults and telling me that I'm on a high horse and to go read forums. Fuck off. And don't call me son. I don't have an sr20 and don't care. And don't have an OBD-1 anything, so your links and forums don't mean dick to me.
Now. Talk to me like that again, and I will probably ban you. Don't speak to ANYONE on this forum like that again, especially a moderator.
-Jeff

However, apparently I was in a bad mood yesterday when I made my first reply to The Sparo, and for that I am apologizing and editing it out.

[SimpleS14]

^-- Dayum...


Anyways, I would buy from Scott since he has experience and feedback on his tuning skills all over most 240SX forums. Just wish he can get some info on the RB25DET.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Good point...hey scott you ever gonna pick up the wrong ECU one day and accidentally tune a RB25? I think theres enough demand for it lately. Plus the lack of tuning options simply.....SUCK

[sr240mike]

Jeff, I think your above comment is reason for banning yourself you arrogant bastard.

[Jeff240sx]

Banned for 3 months. If he cared about not being banned, he would have tried to settle this difference of opinion in private. But.. cursing at me after all this.. he's gone for a while to calm down.
-Jeff

[FaLKoN240]

Kinda off topic (please don't ban me.)

But why is one of these threads called SR240Mike? It has the same content as this one.

[Eternal_240Sx]

Kinda off topic (please don't ban me.)

But why is one of these threads called SR240Mike? It has the same content as this one.

probrably to let ppl know why he got banned?

[Jeff240sx]

Where did that go? I was trying to move it somewhere, mis-clicked and lost it. Kinda figured it didn't go through once I couldn't find it, but I'll search and remove it.
-Jeff

Edit: Removed it. We have a hidden forum for posting threads where we pinked and/or banned a user. This is so that we know who got punished and why.

[SkeetFaceJeff]

I like how you changed post #41 to include "Now. Talk to me like that again, and I will probably ban you. Don't speak to ANYONE on this forum like that again, especially a moderator.
-Jeff", after of course you banned me and cursed me out.

[tastyratz]

holy thread batman. snail was probabbly joking about the "trick your computer into thinking you have colder air coming in" ebay BS 25hp "add on module" which is just a resistor.
im not gonna dish out any pain but this whole thing was just fueled by a bunch of people in a bad mood. there was no need for it.

the sparo was simply providing an alternative solution to people. he was not stating its "better" or anything than enthalpy's tune. Instead of accepting that people smeared their personal preference on them and forced scotts tune. Scott knows his ish and I think going through him is a fine place to go for a tune... however theres always competition. sr240 originally just came on to say you can tune your own damn ecu with xxxx.

jeff there is one thing i have to say about a post you made and in no way is this me trying to be an ass... more constructive criticism:
when you said :
TheSparo - before repping someone's product, you should either have empyrical evidence (i.e. your ecu is making withing xx% of Enthalpy's ecu), or a side-by-side comparison of his ecu vs. Scott's ecu on a similar setup.
-Jeff

I do agree you should definitely if possible provide comparisons, however he just said he sent his ecu there and reviewed his personal opinion of the product and customer service provided. I for one am happy with his review originally and its something we should not discourage on the forums. Not everyone can afford to go out and buy xxxx number of products then do a dyno comparison of them. I love it when people do that, but just take that into account when viewing his product review and use it to research further.



People turning out this way is very discouraging. someone posted an available alternative they used and have experience with and everyone spent so much time fighting and dogging him for his choice that nobody just stepped out and said "hey thats cool, im glad your results came out ok and thanks for the product review" this is a community. try new things... invent... discuss... educate for the better... i mean really... you wanna say your product is better than another? prove it. you wanna say theres a new alternative existing just fuckin post it. everyone in here take a look back at what was posted and how it turned out. it was NOT necessitated

[Jeff240sx]

Hey Mike. I didn't edit a damn thing on this page. I did edit my first post to The Sparo and then his quotation of that. Which I stated. When I edit anything after ~5 minutes, the automatic edited message pops up. Don't try to turn this on me.
-Jeff

[Jeff240sx]

Tastyratz, it took me a day to see what the purpose of this thread was, and that's why I edited my first post for context, not content. I dont' think we need to keep crapping in this pool.. but once we (mods/admins) figure this thread out, it'll get butchered and pruned and put back on track.
-Jeff

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I know this is old but I thought I would add my .02:

I ventured out to try a new product (wasn't the moeny because I paid $545 for the no core option for quicker shipping)... Well its been 13 days (Oct 10th payment date - Oct 23rd) still no ecu, no response to over 6 emails, no response to paypal's emails, and the post office has no record of the ecu ever being picked up. I've contacted Paypal to let them know I was going to withdraw my payment for lack of product and they told me they will try to contact the seller before withdrawing funds with buyer protection.

I don't know how well his tunes are but I do know his customer service is poor at best right now. I'm hoping to get my computer soon because its all that is holding my car back from running! Kheim if you read this board this is not a bash, I just don't understand the lack of communication. I hope this gets resolved soon.... $545 is alot of money to have to wait 2 weeks for something that rs-enthalpy can do in a day or two.

[BigVinnie]

When are you guys going to get over one time tunes, and get into Biki Rom Retunnable daughter boards for the SR/KA????????
http://www.bikirom.com/

Plugs into the usb port of the laptop, and is fully tunnable depending on the mods that you make, comes with it's own easy to use softaware for $298.00. That beats enthalapy/JWT/or any idiot that charges up the anus for high priced/overly charged tunes........

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I want a one time tune because I don't plan on changing my setup so I don't need a programable setup.

When are you going to realize some people don't want to mess with computer boards or tuning and just want something they can plug in and go?

[BigVinnie]

When are you going to realize some people don't want to mess with computer boards or tuning and just want something they can plug in and go?

Well if plug and play doesn't hurt your pockets at $600....LOL... Go for it.........

[SimpleS14]

PROJECTRB240SX - You can change the sig now. (rather annoying haha) Sorry what happen to you, but why did you dive into buying a tuned ECU from that source?

[SoSideways]

Well if plug and play doesn't hurt your pockets at $600....LOL... Go for it.........

See. That's what TastyRatz was talking about.

You come in here, dogging on people not using Bikirom. Well, not everyone wants to tune their own car, like projectRB240sx, or myself. I am also wanting simple plug and play because you know what? I'd rather be out there driving around then sitting on my driveway going through all the data from some sort of datalogger (unless you can watch all of your gauges, provided all of your gauges are accurate enough, and make a 3rd gear pull somewhere all at the same time) for hours.

And it's not even the fact that you gave us all your opinion that I have a problem with, it's the way you put it.

LOL?

What's so funny about people not using Bikirom? Is Bikirom the be-all-end-all software? No. So what makes your setup better than everyone else's? You gonna laugh at people that have a Haltec or Motec system on their cars because they're not using Bikirom?

Grow up dude.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

$600 doesn't bother me for something I don't have to ever mess with.

I went with redline/efispecialist because it was recommended to me from a few people. I had the same amount of good feedback about enthalpy but I decided California would be closer to drive to than Florida if I wanted dyno tuning (besides there is a place in town that can tune Nissan ecu if there is a daughter board already installed). When I first contacted efispecialist Kheim said the ecu would take 1-2 days to be shipped out so I said thats fine and assumed it would.... I just hope this is a miscommunication more than anything because I need a computer so I can get the car running.

[BigVinnie]

See. That's what TastyRatz was talking about.

You come in here, dogging on people not using Bikirom. Grow up dude.


No really it's guys like you that prevent better technology to move forward and to be better.. This isn't just about biki rom, you can also do a one time DSM ecu swap for about $300 using the CAS, and 1G sensor. I'm not knocking on anybody that choses to buy into old programming at a high price, after all this is a free country, do what you will. But when a guy like me passes info on technology that any (IDIOT) can tune, you must be the bigger idiot not acknowledging the TRUTH.....
You need to grow up and shorten your posts....

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I don't understand how you can't comprehend the fact that some people have busy lives with little time to tune their own computers?

I can't sit around trying to tune my own computer because I work alot, travel alot, and drive my car alot (not lately carpooling, and the fact that the car is down). How is current tuning old technology? Let see most all current performance cars use computer reflashes or rechips, tuning has changed from before and because the mass market doesn't have the time, neccessity, or ability to tune their own computer then that makes us idiots for wanting something we don't have to mess with but ends up with the same power or performance as your computer? Conveince to me is worth more than adjustability!

If you want to pay me my hourly wage to tune my own computer I'll run out to get a bikirom.... if not keep your opinion about our ability or capabilty to yourself.

[BigVinnie]

I don't understand how you can't comprehend the fact that some people have busy lives with little time to tune their own computers?



If you are too busy to take 3hours out of your life to work on easy re-tunable roms something is seriously wrong with society today....
But eeh is your car up and running, do you have all this time to wait for your ill inconvenience.......

[PROJECTRB240SX]

For now yes (The car runs fine on stock equipment, but I need a Z32 maf and 550cc injecors for my new S15 turbo).... but even if I ordered a Bikirom I would have to wait for shipping from Australia, Solder in the setup, tune it, test, retune it, test etc! Ohh also I'd need to get a laptop.... which is what $500 minimum over the original cost?

You knwo some people have jobs, lives and families.... in todays world 3 hours is hard to come by when you have a busy enough life as it is.

[BigVinnie]

For now yes.... but even if I ordered a Bikirom I would have to wait for shipping from Australia, Solder in the setup, tune it, test, retune it, test etc! Ohh also I'd need to get a laptop.... which is what $500 minimum over the original cost?

You knwo some people have jobs, lives and families.... in todays world 3 hours is hard to come by when you have a busy enough life as it is.

Well actually I should of clarified better you can also just tune it at your PC, you don't have to get a laptop.
Sorry that your life is soooo bleek....
But on another note, I hope you atleast get your money back so that you can invest into something that is much more RELIABLE, weither it be enthalapy, JWT, BIKI, or even a cheap DSM swapper. Good Luck.....

[PROJECTRB240SX]

Thanks for the luck! I don't understand how you feel the redline tune is going to be unreliable when I have numerous accounts of great results and long term reliablity.

And my life is far from bleek. I just work, have friends, go to school, have family spread across the country, and have other responsabilities and life tasks taking my time.

[SimpleS14]

BigVinnie - Do you have a screenshot of Bikirom? I want to see how easy it is too tune. That site really doesn't give much to navigate on.

PROJECTRB240SX - You don't have to drive to FL to get your car tuned or dynoed after getting a Enthalpy ECU. If I'm not mistaken, he (Scott) uses a S13 ECU as the base for he's tunes. That means you can get an extra S13 ecu (very easy and cheap to find)...send it to him and still drive your car around with the current ECU in your car. But its too late for that....just wanted to put that in for anyone else that might be concerned.

[SoSideways]

No really it's guys like you that prevent better technology to move forward and to be better.. This isn't just about biki rom, you can also do a one time DSM ecu swap for about $300 using the CAS, and 1G sensor. I'm not knocking on anybody that choses to buy into old programming at a high price, after all this is a free country, do what you will. But when a guy like me passes info on technology that any (IDIOT) can tune, you must be the bigger idiot not acknowledging the TRUTH.....
You need to grow up and shorten your posts....

No need for my post here... I'm done...

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I meant further dyno tuning.... I know the enthalpy computers come pretuned.
It may not be too late, If I don't hear from kheim tomorrow I'm going to just order another ecu.... I just don't want to pull out the stock one until I have everything to replace it.

[SimpleS14]

I meant further dyno tuning.... I know the enthalpy computers come pretuned.
It may not be too late, If I don't hear from kheim tomorrow I'm going to just order another ecu.... I just don't want to pull out the stock one until I have everything to replace it.


Don't just order another ecu.....wait until you resolve the issue of what's going on with your money. You can change the sig now.......

[PROJECTRB240SX]

Well I meant paypal will resolve it and I will order a computer.

What do you mean change my sig?

[SoSideways]

Don't just order another ecu.....wait until you resolve the issue of what's going on with your money. You can change the sig now.......

You really want him to change his sig don't you lol :hahano:

[BigVinnie]

I want to see how easy it is too tune. That site really doesn't give much to navigate on.



I don't want to ramble all night on this topic, but if you want to know how easy it is to tune here is the Biki Rom forum. They state alot of info as it being a SR daughter board, but the SR and KA daughter boards are the same, the mother boards are slightly different.
http://forum.bikirom.com/

[SimpleS14]

Well I meant paypal will resolve it and I will order a computer.

What do you mean change my sig?


Eh....I don't really trust paypal. I had an incident and they really didn't help me out. So I got my bank involved and I got my money back. But...I ended up with a negative balance and paypal did try to get the money back from my bank account. Lucky my bank blocked their access to it and evenutally they (paypal) brought my account balance back to zero.

As for the sig....I dunno I'm just messin with ya...but do you really need all the caps?
;)

[TheSparo]

damn, i guess i missed some stuff... project, you ever get a holld of Khiem? doesn't sound like him at all, but let me know if i can help at all and if it turns out ok for you as well
later

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I Still Have Not Gotten Ahold Of Him.... I Tried Emailing Through All My Addresses, And I Called This Morning And Left A Messege.

If He Ships It Out Fine If Not I Hope He Won't Hassle Me Over A Refund. Sparo If You Know Of A Way To Get In Touch With Him I Would Appreciate It. I'd Really Like To Try His Tune Because A Friend Of Mine Is Putting Out Similar Numbers (298 Whp @ 16psi) To Enthalpy's Gt28r Tune.

[TheSparo]

i'll see what i can do, i just gave him a call, but it didn't ring... but i left a message and emailed him as well... hope nothing happened... but i'll let you know

[PROJECTRB240SX]

He emailed me back.... He said he was having some problems with his supplier.
It should be here early this week. I'll let you all know the results, but I'm sure it should be top notch.

[BigVinnie]

He emailed me back.... He said he was having some problems with his supplier.


Supplier of what? $5 rom you can pick up at radio shack??????
Williem Burner for $45 on ebay?????????
Oh wait it has to be the supplier of the Tuner Pro R/T, never mind that comes for free in a trial version..........

Sounds like Mr.ECU tuner dude is pullin your leg if you ask me..........

[PROJECTRB240SX]

yeah ok.... well whatever, as you already know your choice is yours and mine is mine how about you leave it at that?

[TheSparo]

Supplier of what? $5 rom you can pick up at radio shack??????
Williem Burner for $45 on ebay?????????
Oh wait it has to be the supplier of the Tuner Pro R/T, never mind that comes for free in a trial version..........

Sounds like Mr.ECU tuner dude is pullin your leg if you ask me..........

why do you think your opinion is the right decision? maybe some people don't know enough about tuning, or don't feel safe enough doing it themselves... how much would it suck if you forgot a certain parameter and caused your engine to detonate then blow a HG and fuck up your head? i feel more confident in knowing i am getting a product that has been tested...
and nobody said the BikiRom was bad, im just saying i'd rathe rnot mess with something quite yet, just sometihng to set and forget... the guys who sell tunes obviously know what works all around and gives you the best attributes... you (plural) on the other hand may not...
so stop being such a hardass, and btw i do eventually plan on getting BikiRom

[BigVinnie]

You missed my whole point.... I defenitely would never deal with a ROM tuner that sat there and lied to me, saying that it is on his supplier? I also wouldn't deal with an asshole that doesn't respond to my email promptly, especially after I have done the courtesy of paying in advance.......... It's just overall poor business regardless of what tune you think you are getting.....

[PROJECTRB240SX]

In That Respect You Are Right.... I'll Probably Only Stick To Enthalpy For Any Future Needs.

[MFDoomSTYLE]

I got my ecu from kheim, and yes, even though i haven't been on a dyno yet, i certainly feel a difference between the stock sr20det redtop ecu and the one from kheim. Even during idle its less rich like smell in my garage now. I haven't gotten any problems with the ecu so far, but I will update this if I do. And im scheduling a dyno run soon after I get two more parts in. But buy what you want. No ones choosing for you. Keep reading any type of reviews...

[TheSparo]

yea so i wrecked my car... but not because of inexperience... so i am going to have to wait a little longer in order to go to the dyno since i have to swap all my components to another shell i got this weekend...

[golfer17]

i happen to know someone who does a little ecu tuning with daughterboards around here locally and has produced some very good results and i know that he has talked a lot with scott at enthalpy and last i heard he was seriously considering getting one of scott's tunes for his new setup. just because you can tune it yourself, doesnt mean you will be able, necessarily, to reproduce the results that someone who has a ton of tuning and dyno experience can, and i think that is why many ppl pay good money for a good tune, whether it be the enthalpy ecu tune, or flying someone knowledgeable out to dyno tune their standalone for them. its about getting the maximum potential out of the motor without blowing it up.

[RBS14]

or you could just buy a standalone and be done with it.

[180crafter]

So... PROJECTRB240SX

What finally happened?

[Flybert]

So... PROJECTRB240SX

What finally happened?

Instead of bumping an old ass thread, try PM'ing him next time.

[180crafter]

Instead of bumping an old ass thread, try PM'ing him next time.


1. Maybe there are other people who want to know what happened also...

2. Im glad that you have reached ultimate dick-dom, going out of your way to post in a thread (and bump it again) a completely useless asshole comment. nice.... if you dont have anything to add.. go fuck yourself.

3. Bump... for an answer, not cus Im bored.

[autobahNESSA]

does that bikinirom allow you to set up a map sensor?

[180crafter]

does that bikinirom allow you to set up a map sensor?

bikinirom....

Hahaha..... Really funny mental pic...

[ManoNegra]

Well, i just finished reading thorugh a four page post. I think this thread needs resolution and the info would help a good number of people looking at tune options.

So what happened?

[ispypsi]

bikinirom....

Hahaha..... Really funny mental pic...

it is supposed to be provisions for one, but last i checked it wasnt setup yet. EDIT: that was the only downfalls i saw with bikirom back when i got it. it seemed to have all these promises of a super close to standalone type setup, but they were not implemented. integrated launch controll (studder), boost control, map sensor provisions, etc...the demand wanted them out, so biki had to release the basic setup and he stays pretty busy, and still works on the hardware. i guess with time it will all be available, but i realized later on that i didnt really need all of that stuff (though i wouldnt have minded the launch control). /edit... i bought a bikirom but i opted out because i needed a laptop and the soldering needed to be done. my brother runs one on his SR pretty reliably (not counting various SR problems with the engine itself). he base tuned it fine, though i dont trust him when he says he can fine tune it himself on a dyno, he just doesnt have the experience. i am personal friends with scott (enthalpy), so i opted to just get his ECU with an s14 to s13 harness. his basemap runs pretty well spot on, but we still are going to get together soon and fine tune it just for numbers' sake.

it really is all preference and what you're looking to do with your car. i dont see why there are so many arguments and closed minds needed about all this stuff.

-dan

ps - why can't anyone spell enthalpy right? its not entropy, its not enthalapy, entharpy, or enthlapy, geez! :o oh well i guess not everyone took physics