new cage by MA-Motorsports mmm yum!

[rabid_monkey]

So... finally got a camera. The car recieved engine tuning, rollcage, alignment, and feels like a new damn car. so so so so stiff. in anycase, Brian W. and Statepolice! at MA-Motorsports did all the awesome sextacious sexfully sex work cause they are sexy, thanks for everything fellas:

rear shot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/cage1.jpg

base plate welding (gawdamn!):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/baseplate1.jpg

door bars:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/downbars1.jpg

and here's what i look at while driving, clean and simple:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/dash1.jpg


and just for kicks, a rear and front shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/rearnew1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/frontnew1.jpg

WEEEEE!!!! drift clinic with DA this Friday... dunno if people are taking pics, but hopefully new action ones. boners.

[007jpang]

so fucken hot... im about to skeeeeet

[TurDz]

now that is how I would want my car if I ever got a cage. Retain stock interior w/ integrated tubing. Sooo nice.

[FaLKoN240]

Holy shat, that is nice. VERY CLEAN. I love that car. . . can you give us some specs on that beast? MORE PICS too LOL. God damn, I'm like a fanboy of that car now.

[Yoshi]

Sorry, blew an O-ring... must find large towel now... OMFG.
Respect.

[rabid_monkey]

hahaha thanks guys. really.

uhhh more specs lets see... i'll give the majors i guess

blacktop SR, PFC Djetro, 599cc inj., 256* JUN cams, FP Big28, SSA mani, 3in everything, Kaaz 2way, Cusco Zero2 coilovers, ST sways, all heim joint arms from various people, Tein tie rods, ADR Sterling wheels 18x9.5"+12 all around with 225/40-18 and 235/40-18, B*Magic aero, Z brakes, lots of other little bullshit here and there. right now boost is at .97bar, just got tuned... still working out some tuning kinks, then upping boost to 1.2bar and gonna try and get some dyno numbers just for fun. umm... pics...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/DSC_0686.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/DSC_0689.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/IMG_0041.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/IMG_0042.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/IMG_0062.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/pic160.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/MeLKT1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/MeLKT2.jpg

hope that's enough. enjoy.

[Sky240PWR]

how much does a setup like that cost for the hatch??(rollcage)

[rabid_monkey]

MA charges like $1600 for a complete cage... designs can vary slightly (door bar style, rear bracing style) per request, but yea, thats about the going rate. paint not included tho.

[S14DB]

MA charges like $1600 for a complete cage... designs can vary slightly (door bar style, rear bracing style) per request, but yea, thats about the going rate. paint not included tho.
Holy shit. :o

[theicecreamdan]

isnt a strut tower bar kind of redundant in there?

[rabid_monkey]

S14 - well considering my friend's M3 race car cage cost him like $3500, i don't feel so bad haha. $1200-2300 are like going rates i've seen in the past years for cages like this. your only other options are Autopower, which fits like shit, down bars block your vision and make it hard to get in and out of and hit your head all the time and aren't as stiff, OR Cusco which isn't as stiff, and crumples in the front easier, and isn't legal for anything SCCA related. so its kinda a toss up between safety, stiffness, legality, overall design vs. cost.

icecream - haha hell yea i doubt it does much of anything, but i didn't really care to sell it or just throw it away, so on it went, can't hurt it i guess.

[S14DB]

It's not like it's a rare or special bar. looks like an ebay special to me.

[HyperTek]

nice.. noticed you had a kouki 180 guage cluster.. how did you wire it up?

[rabid_monkey]

nice.. noticed you had a kouki 180 guage cluster.. how did you wire it up?

Carluch did it a long time ago. i guess he just spliced all the wires from the 3 USDM plugs into the two connectors on the JDM cluster. the gas gauge still doesn't workie... i've been too lazy to bother with it, but i will soon.

[Gzero]

Looks like its time to post pics of my cage that just got done!

[HyperTek]

what does the millage usually read out?

[s14brent]

wow your set up looks really nice! good job!!

[rabid_monkey]

what does the millage usually read out?

what you mean? like what type? it reads kilometers and keeps them accurate. it doesnt give zero or blank or an error if thats what you mean. i keep track of fuel by it. fill up every 300km or so, however many gallons that may be.

[chmercer]

looks good dude. i really like thoes ADR sterlings on your car. looks real good, esp. for the price. also, are thoes the ebay mirrors?!? hahaha, looks pretty dope. also what is that hoop that goes around the back of the stock seat? is that part of the cage? last thing..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/CamryDriftWagon/IMG_0062.jpg

are you running like, 10 million caster? lol :rawk:

[Sky240PWR]

MA charges like $1600 for a complete cage... designs can vary slightly (door bar style, rear bracing style) per request, but yea, thats about the going rate. paint not included tho. is that installed or just for the cage?.....I would just want the one for the back not the front!

[SochBAT]

Primo job! I like the integration.

[Ian]

woo! go collin. That cage is fucking money. I need to get me one of those god dammit.


Anyhow, if you havent seen this car in person, you just dont understand...it's the shit.


period hahah

[mr_240sx]

if i can find my digi camera im gonna go take me some pics of my cage that i got this summer!!!!! :hyper:

[skithesteel]

also what is that hoop that goes around the back of the stock seat? is that part of the cage?

I was wondering the same thing, but if you look close I'm pretty sure it's the steering wheel..

[*NismoS13*]

Love the cage - love the car. Excellent job...

-Adam

[rabid_monkey]

are you running like, 10 million caster? lol :rawk:

hahaha this event was "PRE" alignment haha. This past week was the FIRST alignment the car ever had. I had the MOST HORRIBLE tire wear ever before... right side would be on belts, but the outside of the tire would be like 90%, left tire was like 70%, different cambers, the left wheel would be straight and you could noticably see the right wheel pointing right. I just never really cared so much. In a year and a half... I've replaced, tie rods, suspension arms, two steering racks... all with never having an alignment done. so yea, you can imagine. Brian has the sheet from before and after, i'll try and scan it so you can laugh.

is that installed or just for the cage?.....I would just want the one for the back not the front!

$1600 is for the cage installed. They measure and bend and cut the pipes themselves in house, its not premade. base plates too... cut and welded by Brian W and made to meet all NASA and SCCA standards. if you were only doing the rear, it'd prolly be a lot cheaper. i dunno how much, but definately email, PM, or call Brian and pick his brain, he's always willing to talk.

and thanks again for the kind words everyone.

[Ian]

does the cage go through the firewall to brace on the strut towers?

[rabid_monkey]

does the cage go through the firewall to brace on the strut towers?

naw, it stops right there at the front down bars. i didnt want anything making the strut towers a mian focal point for tons of stress in the event of a crash or impact since they aren't seam welded. even tho something this strong would probably total the car, i didnt wanna rish the strut tower ripping apart because of an impact. plus i was TRYING to keep as much of the vent system as possible, gotta have heat in winter since its my only car.

[kuruptR]

wooOo kouki gauge cluster.

[SimpleS14]

I didn't know you daily drive that car....now that's pimp lol Car is sick, looks much better in person and that's a good price from MA-Motorsports considering the work and overall clean job they did.

[rabid_monkey]

I didn't know you daily drive that car....now that's pimp lol Car is sick, looks much better in person and that's a good price from MA-Motorsports considering the work and overall clean job they did.

yep. everyday, all day, rain or shine. snow i try to preserve my bump in so i wont go out unless totally necessary haha, but one time i got caught in snow with 4 RT215 Azenis on that i was borrowing from somebody... that was an eventful drive home to say the least... i almost had a heart attack/hit somebody like 8 times in 10 miles.

[Yoshi]

yep. everyday, all day, rain or shine. snow i try to preserve my bump in so i wont go out unless totally necessary haha, but one time i got caught in snow with 4 RT215 Azenis on that i was borrowing from somebody... that was an eventful drive home to say the least... i almost had a heart attack/hit somebody like 8 times in 10 miles.

LOL, I'm glad someone else knows what that's like!
2 years ago, I brought my 240 out cuz it hadn't snowed in 2 weeks, figured I was safe... then BAM! snow storm... and I'm trying to get to work on "all-season" tires... ya right. Thank god for snow banks, I'da curbed my rims so bad if there weren't 16" on snow in the rain gutters :(

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

car looooooks GREAT!

[vsp3c]

*drool* such a nice s13..

can you give us some info about your headlights?

[ThatGuy]

^^They're likely illegal in most states. :D

Cage looks nice though. How much of the vents did you loose? Just the side window de-foggers and the side dash vents?

[Jcb890]

cage looks SICK. nice work.

[RedSuns]

next event you bring the car out i will lick your car

[Brian W.]

Bracing the cage to the strut towers is ilegal in some series/ events/ sanctioning bodies. It depends. for a simple cage like this its not really needed. Glad to hear everyone likes the work.

Collins car is pretty damn darn gangster!

[Ian]

ah, i was just wonderin because i see alot of cages do it


anyhow, i commend your cage building skills because they are very impressive! The only thing i'd point out that i dont quite like, is the main hoop seems pretty loose compared to the B pillar. Then again, it's not really necessary to be that close...

[rabid_monkey]

*drool* such a nice s13..

can you give us some info about your headlights?

sure... took out the motors, custom cut and welded a steel plate to the original light bracket, mounted the lights to that steel plate. permanent secured the bracket to the rad support.

lights are Catz MSX on the outside and XSL on the inside. 85watts and 55watts respectively. they are both on at the same time, no high beam, low beam. i got both cause the MSX has like a 80* spread and the XSL is 45*, so it covers wide and infront of the car, as well as far down the street. these are the damn bomb... they turn the whole world to day time when driving on back roads at night. if you bend down and look into them, they burn a hole in your retinas... i think you can see thru women's clothes with them. :drama:

also, to refute any gay ass comments... I had H4 HID's before, and they sucked shit. the spread was wack, blank spots and hot spots, and these are like a million times better. i'll only get HID's again if i have projectors. and he11 yea they are illegal as shit, but i dont really care and haven't had a problem yet... prolly cause the light is bright white, and not blueish.

^^They're likely illegal in most states. :D

Cage looks nice though. How much of the vents did you loose? Just the side window de-foggers and the side dash vents?

just the side window defoggers and the driver's side front vent. the two middle ones, the passenger one, and the two little steering wheel ones all work as normal.

anyhow, i commend your cage building skills because they are very impressive! The only thing i'd point out that i dont quite like, is the main hoop seems pretty loose compared to the B pillar. Then again, it's not really necessary to be that close...

the reason its farther out that lookout matt's, is cause i kept my headliner and B pillar plastic pieces. i wanted to keep most of my interior from the seats up, as it's a daily driven car. so brian and ray had to work with that. i lost probably an inch in that aspect compared to lookout matt's.

p.s. - brian knows every single rule in any racing in forever... its really quite ridiculous and you wanna punch him, so i figure he's got it under control.

and thanks again for the comments and yes, car licking is allowed, just wipe off your herpes afterwards. :wiggle:

[Brian W.]

ah, i was just wonderin because i see alot of cages do it


anyhow, i commend your cage building skills because they are very impressive! The only thing i'd point out that i dont quite like, is the main hoop seems pretty loose compared to the B pillar. Then again, it's not really necessary to be that close...


check Alexs or Matts out, like Cloin said. The Main hoop is the same in all 3 cars, but since Collin wanted to retain the head liner we lost 2" of hiehgt, which would have brought the bends further up and and closer to the B-pillar. We just did one in a Porsche that was so tight towards the top of the b-pillar we had to cut some of the inside of the pillar out for the main hoop.
We are going to redesign the hoop for it to be even closer to the B-Pillar though. The down bars off the hoop towards the front are super tight fitting.

[Ian]

ah ok, i see what you're saying. I assumed you bent different hoops for each application. You used the same design because they're S13's and you just shortened collin's from the bottom so it would clear the headliner. Still, very nicely built...I wish i could afford one :-\

[TokyoNights]

Yeah that hatch is the hot diarria shit expecially in person
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/607000-607999/607865_220_full.jpg
I think you were drunk that day ahah
nice cage yo!

[rabid_monkey]

I think you were drunk that day ahah
nice cage yo!

hahaha the definately sounds like a possibility, but who knows, i don't really remember... maybe not til that night, Rich on the other hand, that is a different story.

[Dr.Baby]

check Alexs or Matts out, like Cloin said. The Main hoop is the same in all 3 cars, but since Collin wanted to retain the head liner we lost 2" of hiehgt, which would have brought the bends further up and and closer to the B-pillar. We just did one in a Porsche that was so tight towards the top of the b-pillar we had to cut some of the inside of the pillar out for the main hoop.
We are going to redesign the hoop for it to be even closer to the B-Pillar though. The down bars off the hoop towards the front are super tight fitting.

like the brain said, in my car and matts car we dont run headliners and really dont care, so ours are higher up. i can post pictures of it tomorrow...brain and shake are cage building masters!!!

[Ian]

yeah, when my cage goes in (probably over winter) i'm doin some serious modification to the roof for my big korean thunderdome. We're gonna pull the headliner+sunroof and weld the hole shut w/ some thin sheet metal so it's a hard top

I plan to have my main hoop up against the roof so tight that you cant even slip christina applegate through it. Trust me...it's gonna be tight...like the opposite of brittney spears?

[AeBaSupLook]

Was the cage migged together? Also did you guys get completely around the cage with no gap? I'm just trying to figure out a way to get it as close as possible to the headliner and get a near full weldment of the roof joints. Its pretty hard to get to and I have seen people cut off the roof or drill holes on the floor to drop it in order to weld completely around.

Thanks
-Kevin

[rabid_monkey]

Was the cage migged together? Also did you guys get completely around the cage with no gap? I'm just trying to figure out a way to get it as close as possible to the headliner and get a near full weldment of the roof joints. Its pretty hard to get to and I have seen people cut off the roof or drill holes on the floor to drop it in order to weld completely around.

Thanks
-Kevin

yes and yes. brian is a welding machine. welds go all the way around, i think its against certain sanctioning body rules to not have it that way. if you're building a full race car that you are starting from a bare frame, then yea, people cut off the roof and weld it back on sometimes. if u gotta ask about it, then most likely you aren't and so, i dont think its really necessary or good to cut the roof of off a street car and have to deal with all that. Matt's is super duper tite to the roof and didnt have to deal with any of that mess.

[Brian W.]

yeah, welded all the way around with a 250 AMP MIG machine. another thing i take into consideration when designing these things is that ill need to be able to weld all the way around. And becuase we have only completed 3.5 Roll Cages... ive decided to steer clear of advanced ideas like cutting the roof off, holes in the floor, etc. Although each cage gets better in many ways, so i woudnt be surprised if in a year or so we were doing some crazy stuff like that. And yes we use the same hoop for all the S13s weve done (only 3, haha) but again we will be redesigning the main hoop in reguards to bringing it closer to the B-pillar.

[240trainee]

Out of cruiosity, on the bars going from the hoop to the rear floor, why did you locate them by the strut towers, rather than in the back like Mark's car? Just curious for the day when I build/ get built a cage for my car

[Brian W.]

The strut towers are a structural part of the car... more so then the rear floor pan. I decided to triangulate the rear bse plate by putting a 4x4 square on the floor and then running another plate up the side of the strut tower. Both plates are welded together and then welded to the floor/ sheetmetal of the car. I just saw it as being a stronger design then running them all the way back.

[alexchanman]

how did you get that headlight look on your car? is it a custom bracket or a drop in?

[ThatGuy]

^^He's already explained. Please read the whole thread before asking a question.

[RedShiftDC]

yeah, when i get my cage done (probably going to have a hand in it myself because i want to learn how to build them) we will cut the floor to get a good weld all the way around, and then raise it up and weld plates so it can butt up very tightly against the roof.


EDIT::

this is mainevent212 on the new and improved RedshiftDC account lol

oops :faint:

[s14turbosilvia]

Have you got any ideas for cages in a coupe? Would it require a whole different plan, or just a small modification of your existing hatchback plan?

[Brian W.]

It would be the same, perhaps some hole saws through the rear sheetmetal. But otherwise, the same.

[borohingacoupe]

I guess that cage is okay. The design is good, but the welds look a little boogery. I have seen cleaner welds on cages before...

[Brian W.]

thanks for the criticism. I welded the cage myelf, and though with a MIG welder i cant make as "pretty" a weld as i can with our TIG Machine, i can assure you that these welds are all very strong and do the job they were intended to do which is stay together. Welding on the tubing can be tricky sometimes when your sitting in the car all tied up in the cage... it makes some spots awkward to get to.

[hellion240sx]

thats a nice cage you got there. whats the prices on a 4 point? just wondering :) 'm starting to work... somewhat heh

[iMAGE976]

Nice pics! and Nice Cage!! looks like the jungle gym from back in the day......