LSD conversion?

[Omega47]

I was searching on ebay for an LSD rear for my s13,and i saw this...
LSD Insert (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PHANTOM-GRIP-LSD-KIT-Limited-Slip-Diff-Nissan-240SX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33731QQitemZ79906 30561QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V)

Have searched a few times on this forum and others,cant seem to find anyone who has used this,what do you think? Will it work? Worth it?

[SochBAT]

NO, its not. Phantom = Not there.

No-There Grip. Makes sense. For that amount, you can find a decent used LSD, or VLSD.

Hell, since i can tell you're going to skimp on things, weld the diff.

Our Limited Slip Differential will
provide you with:


Maximized Tire Wear

hahahahaha!

[Sonic Motor]

any disadvantages to welding the diff???

If welding diff can achieve a 2way LSD effect, why are there even 2 way LSDs?

[ranisron]

I suggest you click on the search button....

welded diff -> 2 way lsd at all times, so no limiste slip, but locked at all time.

[SochBAT]

Welded the diff makes it 100% locked, ie, a solid 2way.

Advantages : earlier initiation, faster cornering, knowing when it'll slip
Disadvan. : understeer, chirping, and being JDM Tyte.

[S14DB]

Phantom Slip, We eat spider gears for breakfast!

[chlatboy]

2 ways can disengages removing the chirping, tire wear that welded diffs come with. But 2 way LSDs and run deep into your pockets!!

[broken_s13]

It says when cornering and braking it act likes a clutch type, and under acceleration it gives power to both wheels. Sounds like a 1.5 way to me. But cheeper. From the looks of the way it was designed, itll probably wear the spider grears down. Give it a try. i

[OptionZero]

No. Don't.

[Dousan_PG]

this shit is so old
the phantom grip is a pos
it WILL break under drifting or hard driving circumstances, ist been tested by regular folks, and it failed

quit being cheap and either weld your diff or shell out for a real LSD (hlsd, vlsd, lsd clutch)

[OptionZero]

actually, isn't it just being stupid? That's more expensive than a junkyard VLSD, and maybe more expensive than a Welded diff

[chlatboy]

buy it and see how it works. You can learn a good lesson from it. You get what you pay for and dont be cheap with stuff u put on your car. Only cheap mod that have seemed to work fine would be a welded diff.

[thekman]

yeah that is a pos

[P_s14]

I bought a VLSD off a j30 for less than that :(

[projectRDM]

actually, isn't it just being stupid? That's more expensive than a junkyard VLSD, and maybe more expensive than a Welded diff

And more work too.

[Omega47]

You guys dont seem to understand i asked an opinion of it,no where did i say i was going to get it...and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. I said i was looking for an LSD and saw this. :smash:

[ranisron]

what's wrong with welded diff?

do a quick search on welded diff, and see if you like it.

I rode in an S13 with welded diff, didn't feel anything awkward, other than... in reverse. hhaaa. :p

[chlatboy]

Thanks for the opinions and suggestions... and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. So instead of going halfass by welded up a diff, which is proven on tracks that they kick butt, im going to invest my life's saving for a high end, high quality Phantom Grip.
Sound better? :love:

[Toka Motorsports]

there is no point to weld a diff... me and some freinds tried it on a Rustang(mustang) the gears will weld but the welds crack apart even from the lighest driving. we opened the diff and welded everything that touched and even welded some steel strips onto the gears... but it still cracked like crusty bread.. :faint: later we put like half an inch of extra steel into the diff.. it looked like it was fool proof but the power from the four cylinder rustang ripped the welds aprat again... and we ended up buying a junk yard diff to replace the ruined one... :gives: it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...

[S14DB]

there is no point to weld a diff... me and some freinds tried it on a Rustang(mustang) the gears will weld but the welds crack apart even from the lighest driving. we opened the diff and welded everything that touched and even welded some steel strips onto the gears... but it still cracked like crusty bread.. :faint: later we put like half an inch of extra steel into the diff.. it looked like it was fool proof but the power from the four cylinder rustang ripped the welds aprat again... and we ended up buying a junk yard diff to replace the ruined one... :gives: it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...Dang, Someone sucks at welding.

[SochBAT]

Dang, Someone sucks at welding.
HALLELUJAH!!!! If that is even spelled right...

[i8yourfwd]

Dang, Someone sucks at welding.
+2 Noob welders probobly should stay away.. get a Weld Locd Ver3 from Luke!!
it may work on some diffs but running the car hard... it will crack...ERRRRR wrong again! http://www.shockdrifting.com/weldlocd.html
educate yourself

Just because you guys suck and welding doesn't mean a GOOD welded diff sucks.


and i wont weld the diff that is half assed. I said i was looking for an LSD and saw this

Then don't get welded! Get Phantom grip for your diff. Then when it breaks and owns you I'll laugh because my welded diff will still be working perfectly fine.
Welded diff half assed?
http://www.shockdrifting.com/lukeshocker.jpg
That car doesn't look very half assed, but is still rocking a welded diff.

What exactly makes a welded diff half assed to you? You obviously have no clue what your talking about because you didn't even bother to do a search on phantom grip. So how would you know if welded is "half assed"

EDIT: I refuse to believe that you serached. Found this on the very first page of the search.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=39400&page=2&pp=30&highlight=phantom+grip

[chlatboy]

Like what was said thousands of times before, one of the only bang for your buck mod would be a welded diff. But forget about welded. Phantom for the win!!

Get 3 or 4 of them so that you wont have to pay more shipping every time one breaks.