SARD Fuel Pressure Regulator *Group Buy*

[MadScientist]

SARD Fuel Pressure Regulator *Group Buy* (http://raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=1621&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7442)

SARD adjustable fuel pressure regulators for EFI engines utilizes extra light weight diaphragm assembly that provides excellent pulsation dampening; to dampen the pressure spikes caused by high flow fuel pumps and cycling injectors (especially non-factory high flow fuel injectors).
SARD offers two universal regulators, the Type-R & the normal models. Both models comes in either blue-anodized -6 AN aluminum inlet ports with a 1/8 NPT gage port, or blue-anodized aluminum 8 mm inlet with a 1/8 NPT gage port.
SARD fuel pressure regulators are designed to provide the correct fuel pressure for any high performance fuel injected vehicle. The normal model is designed to be used on fuel injected, non-turbo-charged engines, and it is machined from billet aluminum.
The other universal regulator, Type-RJ, is more expensive, and is designed for fuel injected and turbo-charged engines. Due to its boost compensating design, it can provide more fuel under high turbo boost conditions.
As per the normal model, parts are machined from billet aluminum. Pressure adjustment is made easy on both models by turning the built-in 360 degree nut. Both models are made to bolt in the factory location in most vehicles, so installation is a snap! Range is from 200 to 800KPa (2 to 8 bar).

69010 Sard fuel pressure regualtor 8 nipple inlet - $100
69011 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor AN #6 inlet - $110
69030 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor Type RJ 8 Nipple inlet - $200
69030 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor Type RJ AN#6 inlet - $200 (http://raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=1621&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7442)

RB/ SR20/ KA24 all use 69014 Adapter to install ($25) (http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=2377&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7443)

Shipping in the US48 is about $12 (Canada and HI about $20)

Please place orders over the website for proper processing.
Orders will be processed individually.

Thank you
Drew

[Yoshi]

so what benefit, if any, is there from going from a Tomei/Nismo FPR (approx $120) vs. the $237 SARD RJ?

[MadScientist]

Nismo/ Tomei/ HKS is an upgrade from stock and only pushes 200-600KPa/ 2-6 bar.

The Type RJ is for High Boost applications.

Seen several SRs running the Normal SARD FPR... other than the larger diaphram on the RJ, the performance is the same (200-800KPa/ 2-8 bar).

Peace
Drew

[Yoshi]

Nismo/ Tomei/ HKS is an upgrade from stock and only pushes 200-600KPa/ 2-6 bar.

The Type RJ is for High Boost applications.

Seen several SRs running the Normal SARD FPR... other than the larger diaphram on the RJ, the performance is the same (200-800KPa/ 2-8 bar).

Peace
Drew

sweet, that's exactly the info I was lookin for! :)
Thanks!

[MadScientist]

Actually here is more info:
PSI multiplied by 6.8948 = KPa (Kilopascals)

AEM:
1.4 kg/cm2 (bar) + no info
138 KPa + no info

OBX:
1.7 - 4.0 kg/cm2 (bar)
172 - 400 KPA

HKS:
2.0 - 5.0 kg/cm2 (bar)
200 - 500 KPa

Nismo/ Tomei:
2.0 - 6.0 kg/cm2 (bar)
200 - 600KPa

SARD:
2.0 - 8.0 kg/cm2 (bar)
200 - 800KPa

So basically the SARD has the Highest Fuel Pressure... and for the same price as the Nismo/ Tomei... I see this as a good deal. You also get to pick colors and its easy to relocate.

If someone else is selling it for less... show me, i'll honor it.

Peace
Drew

[Sky240PWR]

hey sorry to contact you on the thread but I still haven't got a reply about the bumper,diffuser,and hood.I emailed you a week ago but I know sometimes emails screw up so I'll just tell you here, I'll take the MASA hood and front bumper, and the Ab-Flug rear diffuser, what i wanted to know was, when were you going to place the order?( the sooner the better)......Like I said sorry to go through here!

[S14DB]

How would this compare to an Areomotive FPR?
http://216.242.145.16/products/product.phtml?p=10

[Slidin240Wayz]

And how about a full assembly with ss lines and fuel rail for some top feed injectors? I am not one to try and make things fit, I like everything to just work perfectly.
Thank you.

Carlos

[MadScientist]

S14DB -
Aeromotive:
2.0 - 5.0 kg/cm2 (bar)
200 - 500KPa

So Aeromotive is the same as the HKS!

SARD still wins!!
Just so you guys know the difference...
SARD FRP (Normal) - Regulator size is 50mm X 96mm and is ideal for most vehicles, up to ~450ps.
SARD FRP (Type RJ) - Large Sized regulator 66mm X 92mm. For high power applications over 500ps

Slidin240Wayz - If you want a Full SARD Fuel Set-up I will glady piece that together for you.

Sky240PWR - I got the e-mail... just been insainly busy trying to catch up on a full months worth of work. Order to Japan is going out Very Very soon.

Peace
Drew

[1 88 U]

difference between 8 nipple and 6-AN fitting?

[MadScientist]

difference between 8 nipple and 6-AN fitting?
Only difference is Size.

Here is a Pic of all the Fittings and Adapters:
http://www.raretrick.com/store/images/products/7443_detail.bmp
Top Left is the Adapter needed to install on KA/ SR/ and RB Fuel Rails.
Lower Right is the 8mm and 6-AN

Still no orders? Come-on guys... these are in-stock... The best performance and eye catching!

Peace
Drew

[1 88 U]

Only difference is Size.

Here is a Pic of all the Fittings and Adapters:
http://www.raretrick.com/store/images/products/7443_detail.bmp
Top Left is the Adapter needed to install on KA/ SR/ and RB Fuel Rails.
Lower Right is the 8mm and 6-AN

KA/ SR & RB are 6-AN

Still no orders? Come-on guys... these are in-stock... The best performance and eye catching!

Peace
Drew

I pm'd you, definatly interested

[MadScientist]

1 88 U - Your order is being shipped out today.

Peace
Drew

[MadScientist]

Group Buy is still going... :bow:

Let me know...
peace
Drew

[the head]

order placed

[S14.5silvia]

still have some of these in stock? looking for fpr, and rail adapter for sr20det, total price for this please, shipped to 27530 thank you

[MadScientist]

thehead - Product Shipped. :wiggle:

FRP - $110
Adapter - $25
= $135
Shipping - $12
Handling - $2.70
Insurance - $1.35
Grand Total = $151.05

If someone else is selling it for less... show me, i'll honor it.

Peace
Drew

[1 88 U]

pm'd MadScientist

[WILDACEX187]

ok im interested also but im kinda lost. if i want one for my sr i have to buy the 110 dollar one with the 6 an fitting right? then wats the adaptor for?

[Muzzy]

"SARD FRP (Normal) - Regulator size is 50mm X 96mm and is ideal for most vehicles, up to ~450ps."

on stock injectors??

[the head]

ok im interested also but im kinda lost. if i want one for my sr i have to buy the 110 dollar one with the 6 an fitting right? then wats the adaptor for?

the adapter bolts on where your old FPR was on the fuel rail to convert that to a -6 an outlet which you can then hook onto the regulator

[OCIS]

Drew,

I have waited two weeks since I sent the PM that you read but have yet to respond. I have replyed to the group buy post and left a message on your phone but I have yet to get any answers. Please contact FEDEX and have them cut the check to me.

[WILDACEX187]

anybody got one of these installed on a sr? i wanna see how i would be able to hook up a gauge on it.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

Are You Sure The Gauge Fitting Is 1/8npt.... I'm Sure Its 1/8 Bspt.

[MadScientist]

Had a few Misunderstandings... on my part as well...

69010 Sard fuel pressure regualtor, 8 nipple inlet - Stock Fuel Line
69011 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor, AN #6 inlet - Stainless Fuel Line
69030 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor Type RJ, 8 Nipple inlet - Stock Fuel Line
69030 Sard Fuel pressure regualtor Type RJ, AN#6 inlet - Stainless Fuel Line

There are 3 Holes in each FRP:
2 - 1/8NPT thread (Front & Bottom)
1 - 8PT thread for Gauge (Side) which is blocked off with an 8PT blocker.

SARD design will only allow 50% threading, this is a safty feature. Also you need to use a teflon tape on the threads for better seal.

Muzzy - Standard pushes the same amount of the RJ... only the RJ is bigger to hold more fuel in the cell. SARD is the Strongest FPR so you shouldn't have any problems with the Standard model... just depends on your set-up.

Peace
Drew

[PROJECTRB240SX]

So It Is 1/8 Bspt? I'm Trying To Figure It Out As My Autometer Gauge Wont Mesh With The Fpr And A Few People Told Me I Need A Bspt Adapter Like For The Oil Pressure Gauges.

[MadScientist]

I have a SARD Catalog in Japanese, and a Transated version... Both say 8PT 1/8... not sure about the BS part.

Peace
Drew

Edit: Multiple pics of the SARD FRP/ and Fuel Setting Meter... enjoy.

[1 88 U]

don't forget you will need an end for the adapter itself, either -6an or 8 nipple, elbo or straight.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

For People Who Buy This Regulator....

If You Have A 1/8 Npt Gauge Sender Or Gauge Port To Get It To Work You Need A 1/8 Bspt Male Adapter To 1/8 Npt Female. I Bought A Edelman Adapter From My Local Parts Store, Its Part Number 265220 And Cost Me $3.41 (fleet Rate, But List Price Is $4.95). This Adapter Will Also Work For Oil Pressure Gauges.

[uchinan]

Order sent today. Let me know when you ship it. Thanks!

[MadScientist]

PROJECTRB240SX - Cool... thank you for the information... I have an old skool Nismo OP gauge that needs that part.

uchinan - will process on monday.

Guys I'm going to purchase one of these for myself and do a full write up on Install... there is different ways to install depending on your set-up, so I will try to cover that as well. There is a ton of information on this thread alone.
This should be very helpfull for those who have never installed a FPR.

Peace
Drew

[Muzzy]

what i mean is that 450 can be achieved by upping the pressure on the stock 370s??

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I Was At A Local Autozone Yesterday And I Found They Carry A Metric To Standard Gauge Adapter Set, Its In Their Sunpro Line. I Found Out The Edelman Number Is Discontinued... So This Should Help With People Trying To Get That Number With No Luck.

[MadScientist]

what i mean is that 450 can be achieved by upping the pressure on the stock 370s??

450hp just by upping the Fuel Pressure on stock injectors?? No... What I am saying here is the Fuel Pressure Regulator can flow enough fuel to properly support a vehicle with 450hp. Not that its some magic stick and wha-la' you have 450hp.

I understand that alot of people like to do their own work on their cars... but this is a vital part that can Damage your Engine if not installed correctly or tuned correctly. If you have never installed a FPR... have it done by a Professional. If you want to learn... ask and watch.

To Lean (more air than fuel)and your engine pings and pops... all sort of little damage to everything, killing your engine... possable effects of to Rich can happen also.
To Rich (more fuel than air) and you blow a ring... piston eats the wall, and rod goes flying through the block.

For those of you who want additional Fuel Parts with the SARD FPR:
Fuel Pressure Setting Meter Kit - $90
S13 Fuel Rail - $220
SR & RB25/ 550cc/660cc Side Feed Injector Collars - $35 each
SR & RB25/ 850cc Side Feed Injector Collars - 26 each

Peace
Drew

[MadScientist]

OK this is what you need know to Install the SARD Fuel Pressure Regulator...

Top Hole - Vacuum Line
Front Hole - Fuel Feed Inlet (from Filter or Pump)
Bottom Hole - Fuel Feed Outlet (to Fuel Rail)
Side Hole - Gauge only

1 - SARD Fuel Pressure Regulator - pick a color
*Stainless Steel Braided Lines you need (69011 or 69031) which come with TWO 6-AN Fittings
*Stock Lines you need (69010, 69030, or 69032) which come with TWO 8mm Nipple Fittings
*Front Hole - Fuel Feed Line In from Filter or Pump... if this line is Stanless you need a 6-AN Fitting there... if its Stock, you need an 8 Nipple there.
*Bottom Hole and Fuel Rail/ Adapter - if this line is Stanless you need a 6-AN Fitting on both ends... if its Stock, you need an 8 Nipple on both ends.

1 - SARD Fuel Regulator Adapter (69014)
*Fits onto the Stock Fuel Rail does not include fitting for Fuel Line... you pick depending on your set-up

1 - SARD Fuel Regulator Adapter Fitting

This is where it gets confusing for most... Basically you need a Total of 3 Fittings (2 on FPR/ 1 on Adapter or Fuel Rail).
So if you have Stock Line In and Stainless Out... you need (1) 8 Nipple and (2) 6-AN fittings!
All Stock Lines (3) 8 Nipple!
All Stainless Lines (3) 6-AN Fittings.

Everyone confused now?!?

Let me know...
peace
Drew

[1 88 U]

This is where it gets confusing for most... Basically you need a Total of 3 Fittings (2 on FPR/ 1 on Adapter or Fuel Rail).
So if you have Stock Line In and Stainless Out... you need (1) 8 Nipple and (2) 6-AN fittings!
All Stock Lines (3) 8 Nipple!
All Stainless Lines (3) 6-AN Fittings.


I already purchased, how much for one 8 nipple fitting shipped?

[MadScientist]

PM Sent...

[MasterOFDrift]

Just sent in a order for a FPR 1 fitting adaptor and 3x 8 npt nipples for a totally stock hose setup, let me know if i ordered anything wrong. Thanks

[MadScientist]

MasterOFDrift - the FPR comes with 2 Nipples already... all you needed was One extra Nipple and the Adapter. I will fix the order.

Thank you
Drew

[MasterOFDrift]

^ok thanks a lot, I appreciate it!

[ka24deturbo]

So which adaptors do I purchase for the RB20DET? Is it the Part# 69014 Skyline RB20DETT (ALL)?

[MadScientist]

1 - SARD Fuel Regulator Adapter (69014) - Fits all Nissans/ Subaru/ Mazda

We are out of adapters right now but will have more in by the end of the week.

Peace
Drew

[MasterOFDrift]

^ does this mean my order has not been sent out yet?

[MadScientist]

Correct... should be going out Friday, hopefully before SEMA next week.

Peace
Drew

[kouki_s14]

so can you give me a price of everything i would need for the RB shipped for the 8 nipple inlet?

[MasterOFDrift]

just wondering when my unit is arriving?

[95zilvia]

Ok so I tried to fit in my Jegs gauge into the hole, and it won't frickin fit. It is so close, so I know that ProjectRB is right. I thought it was broken or a bad tap or something.. hopefully I didn't strip anything, tomorrow I will try to buy the adapter.

Does anyone know where I can buy one online? perhaps ProjectRB?

[MadScientist]

I know this doesn't relate much to Fuel, but I have an Ol'Skool NISMO Oil Pressure Gauge that came with the Nismo hose but the block end was missing the fitting. So purchassed the Nismo Oil Block Adapter because I would need it later when installing. The threads are 1/8 PT on both the gauge and the Oil Block Adapter. The part I was missing was a crazy thread over barb thingy. Called GoodRidge and they hooked up new hose and 1/8 PT fittings.... I tried to install but they were super tight... they said a PT (Pipe Thread) is tapered so it will get tighter as it goes in... In fear of causing more damage than good I went to sears and got a 1/8 PT Tap set. The Threads and sizes were the exact same the only problem was the hole was slightly too small... now its a perfect fit.

SARD DOES NOT RECOMEND YOU TAPPING OUT THE FPR SO PLEASE DO NOT DO SO... yes the fittings are tight, and only thread in half way.

The SARD Catalog has the Fuel Regulator Setting Meter parts listed as the following:
*Hose (1mm)
*8-PT 1/8 Hose Nipple
*8 Nipple 1/8 3-way
*PT 1/8 Blocker

All Pending Orders will be shipped out today... Fuel Rail Adapters are now back in stock.

Thank you
Drew

[95zilvia]

Quick question.
Do you think 525cc would be able to flow well on the stock fuel rail if I up the boost.
Also, what should the FPR be set at? I think stock is at 36 or 40 right.

[MadScientist]

I have been told the SR20 stock Fuel Rail can support up to 700+cc Injectors.
How tru this is I am not 100% but being that NO-One makes a Fuel Rail for the S14 SR due to location I feel it is somewhat Valid!

Wes has an English writen FSM for the JDM S14 in the technical section... all your stock info will be in there. I dont suggest making a guess at what to set fuel at... have a Pro tune the car to the modifications.

Peace
Drew

[kouki_s14]

so $100 for the 8 nip + $25 for adapter + $12 shipping = $137
is that all i need for it to work with a RB25? im confused and i dont know much about FPRs or most fuel related parts at that, all i know is that i need/should get one for my swap
if so i will send money now.....

[MadScientist]

FRP - $100
Adapter - $25
8 Nipple - $8
= $133
Shipping - $12
Handling - $2.70
Insurance - $1.35
Grand Total = $149.10

That is what you will need.

Thank you
Drew

[kouki_s14]

i was about to order, but i cant find where to add the 8 nipple and which adapter would i use? the rb26dett one? if it isnt too much trouble could i have the part numbers so i can make sure im ordering the correct ones i need?

thanks

henry

[MadScientist]

OK Fuel Presure Regulator is found here... click. (http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=2377&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7442)
You need Part #69010

Fuel Regulator Adaptors are found here... click. (http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?cat=2377&Page=1&Display=Yes&Back=Listings&ProductsID=7443)
You need Part #69014 & 69012

Peace
Drew

[95zilvia]

I'll take one. Orange plz. Who do I paypal and how much.
Shipped to CA 94080.

[BaliLover]

How would you go about running braided line from the fuel filter to the rail, then from the regulator to the return line? Is there some barbed -> AN line available?

[sil-hybrid]

want to get a fpr with everything that I need to run a stock line in and a stainless line 6-an out ... how much total and where do I send the cash?