Looking for a tie rod and tie rod end.

[xagna]

I'm looking for tie rod and tie rod end. I was looking at tein one but I heard some one saying that tein tie rod end snaps if it is drifted.

How bad is tein when it is put under stress through autox and drifting? I see it at around $160 which seems to be resonable.

What other brands do you recommand?

[viscid240]

Everyone here mostly goes with spl parts. I started a thread " which susp. parts" take a look. I think i'k gonna go with all kazama.

[A Spec Products]

kazama all the way

kazama/tein if you are on a budget

[mellojoe]

I've got the TEIN tie rods and ends. I like them. They are much longer than stock, so you'll definately need an alignment (don't trust the "count the number of threads" trick. You'll end up with so much toe-out that it will be undrivable). Much thicker than stock, too.

[chmercer]

kazama rod ends are kindof whack. the bearings go loose. go with splparts for rod ends. steel shank and huge shank, no ghetto aluminum. tein rods and ends are fine too. you can drift just fine on tein rod ends. they wont break unless you hit somthing

[RBS14]

tein rods snapping when drifting?

Technically any rod can snap when drifting, but being thicker than stock, they are less likely to break than stock. I've had mine for over a year, like 8+ events, and lots of very harsh abuse, and they've done fine. For the price, you can't beat them. Well actually, when I break mine finally, I'll be upgrading to the ones phase 2 sells. you can get the inners with the spacer built in, and it comes with an additional spacer, for ridiculous ammounts of angle.

[OptionZero]

there was a great thread on this over on ziptied.com

Basically any pillowball mount is prone to failure after hard drifting because of the hard turning you do at full lock.

For grip, there's less stress on it so you can get away with pillow balls.

[mistaanime]

kazama rod ends are kindof whack. the bearings go loose. go with splparts for rod ends. steel shank and huge shank, no ghetto aluminum. tein rods and ends are fine too. you can drift just fine on tein rod ends. they wont break unless you hit somthing

Kazama, SPL and KTS use pillow ball..so it doesn't matter..they will all go loose..teins are aiite..pretty much almost stock..more durable than stock.

[xagna]

Kazama, SPL and KTS use pillow ball..so it doesn't matter..they will all go loose..teins are aiite..pretty much almost stock..more durable than stock.

How fast will these pillow ball joints on SPL and Tein tie rod ends wear out? Within a year?

[asiangento]

from my experience, tein tie rods are ok. the tie rod ends though... the rubber seal/boot break easy. kazama ones are really expensive. i'm using the peak performance ones right now. they're cheap and good.

[North240]

Hardcore drifter? If not clearly the spl ones are the way to go. i have them and love them

[xagna]

not a hard core drifter but just wanna know which tie rod drifters would use because the fact that pillow ball joints on the tie rod ends breaks or wears out in a year.

[xagna]

from my experience, tein tie rods are ok. the tie rod ends though... the rubber seal/boot break easy. kazama ones are really expensive. i'm using the peak performance ones right now. they're cheap and good.





How much is the Peak Performance tie rod and tie rod ends? I see tein ones for 150 - 160 on the internet.

Where can I get these? Are these ball joint mounted ones?

[Arsenal of Glory]

I've been using the Tein inner rods with Kazama ends for over a year and multiple track events. No failure yet on the rod ends. A few people have had problems with the SPL ones, so i beleive SPL is currently re-developing those. Tein outer rod ends are just stock replacements, similar to Moog. Those are good enough if you just want a beefier inner tie rod to go with it and on a budget.

[Wei240]

just go to spl as others have suggested and get done with (wait for the revamped version though),
i doubt you'll break any of the parts unless you put it on very very heavy stress (3rd gear+ drifting) which i don't think you're doing, so you'll be fine, excellent product and even better customer service,

funny that i've never dealt with them, but judging from feedbacks from members here who do drift, i trust them 100%

[lumbo007]

when are the revamped SPL's supposed to come out? i just checked their site and they have z32 tie rod ends. from the SPL site:

"SPL pro tie rod ends for the S13, S14 and Z32

New! Our pro tie rod ends allow for bump-steer adjustment on lowered cars. When a car is lowered the tie rods end up sitting at an angle instead of being parallel with the ground, this increases the amount of bump-steer -- where the steering is pulled in one direction or another when going over bumps. Adjustable tie rod ends restore the tie rod angle to minimize bump-steer. "

[KOUKI KA-T]

The problem was corrected by SPL months ago and the ones they have been selling for a while now are the revamped ones.

[North240]

As KoukiKAT said they are all ready to go, I installed mine in July, absolutely no issues, and if there ever was Kuah will take care of you

[mmdb]

kazama rod ends are kindof whack. the bearings go loose. go with splparts for rod ends. steel shank and huge shank, no ghetto aluminum. tein rods and ends are fine too. you can drift just fine on tein rod ends. they wont break unless you hit somthing

Steel rusts whereas aluminum doesn't.

I'm running powertrix older rear rods... they're rusting out and i need to replace 'em soon.

[theicecreamdan]

Aluminum shears, steel bends.

[chmercer]

well, my friend has kazama rod ends, and the bearing has gone out on one of them and he hasnt had them very long at all. maybe like 6 months or somthing? also the shank on the SPL unit is much longer and as i said steel vs. aluminum so there is no chance of the threads ripping out.

also for people wondering, the problem with the original spl rod ends was that many people spaced them out very far (like 1" down, kazama kts do not get anywhere close to this, if they did, they would break in just the same way) and there is too much force on the rod end during drifting. the new maximum adjustment is .75" (still much more than kazama or kts, not sure if more than nams or not), the new shanks are all machined out of chromoly, not sure if the spacers are made out of chromoly or not.. and the new spacers are freaking huge, you can see on the website in the install, the spacers are the same diameter as the spindle, super beefy. drift tested, chmercer approved.

[OptionZero]

Tie rod steering angle spacers increase steering angle at maximum lock, but will slightly reduce steering ratio and create bump-steer (which cannot be corrected by adjusting tie rod angle). For drift use, not recommended for normal street or road (circuit) racing.

As I understand it, the spacers are necessary to keep the tie rod end from being binded (excessively twisted at wierdass angle, and this is important during drifting because at full-lock, you have tons of stress on the tie-rod end.

Conversely, why would the spacers be necessarily bad for road racing (less full lock, less stress), as the website says?

[theicecreamdan]

they increase bumpsteer that can't be tuned out, and steering response is slower. you don't need the big angle in road racing, so overall its better without it.

[asiangento]

How much is the Peak Performance tie rod and tie rod ends? I see tein ones for 150 - 160 on the internet.

Where can I get these? Are these ball joint mounted ones?


street price is around the same between peak and tein.

here's their site:
http://www.peak-performance.net/

if u can't get it direct, these guys will ship; just email them:
http://www.driftspeed.com/

[SochBAT]

Kazama/SPL parts rock the world. I was cheap, and needed rods and ends QUICk, so i opted for tein.

[240skyline]

Do any of you guys have trouble with play in the pillow ball bearing in your aftermarket tie rods.Both rods I have have in and out play in the bearing (not much but noticeable) would you go ahead and install them or send them back?

[chmercer]

^^^ yes that is crap. that causes random toe changes as you drive, this is what happened to my friends trashy kazama heim joints.