Would you step out of ur s14 and into a c5?

[jOeHaCk98]

Just some comments, im seriously considering selling my car:
http://www.paintballguys.com/p3.jpg
which has a lot of cash in suspension, not so much power mods and switching to a c5? c5's have come down a lot in value, whats your opinion and why?

ive done some research, c5 seems like a good choice, just wondering if i can get ur input. flame or not. :)

[NemeGuero]

heeeellllll nooooo.. especially if that's your 240! C5's are ugly, small cabins, and IMO not half as sleek as the s14's lines... use the money diff to make yourself happy with some more power mods!!

[240meowth]

trade me for my car!!!

[jOeHaCk98]

oh, are you the guy with the sil80 and sr?

[eyustfu]

if it was a z06 model i would change, if not i doubt it..

[TougeRacing]

C5's aree soo biig though, c6 is even better!

[kandyflip445]

I would for a ZO6. Those things are sooooo nice. Maybe for a normal one. Only way to make up your mind is test drive it.

[eyustfu]

the only bad thing about it is the ugly interior in my opinion like most domestics

[NZO]

I dont think megan makes anything for the c5 ;)

[TurDz]

C5's aree soo biig though, c6 is even better!

C6 is smaller than an S14 (length wise..)

C5 is only 2 inches longer, but has 5 inches more track than a stock S14...

I'd say that size increase is pretty nice.

[evilimport]

Nice front tag on the kouki. :)

[elphkotm]

Unless you really want a Corvette, I'd keep your S14. It looks nice and it seems like you have some money invested into it. It really depends on what you're into. If you tend to beat up your cars, drift, and/or do motorsports-type activities, I'd keep the S14 because parts are cheaper. If you just like to cruise most of the time, a Corvette wouldn't be bad. If you're young, the Corvette is going to run you a bit more in the insurance department as well. All things to think about.

[TheTicTac]

I would drive the car and then make up my mind. I can't stand it when people ask these sort of questions.

[m072514]

my good buddy has a c5 z06 with 405hp stock... its a really nice car, as are most corvettes. however, an s13/s14 is far more practical and will save you alot of money in the long run. but if you want to, nothing any of us say will change your mind. -jack

[MakotoS13]

the only bad thing about it is the ugly interior in my opinion like most domestics

you do OWN a 240 right? our interiors are completely generic and cheap, the seats are horribly uncomfortable and none of them came in all black.

and whoever thinks a 240 has better lines then a C5 is on crack.

the only reason i have my car is because i refuse to pay the ridiculous insurance on a C5 just because i'm under 25. the only way i'll keep my 240 in two years is if i'm just really attached to it. otherwise that hoe is gettin sold for a big boy project :)

[SimpleS14]

If my car is like that....I would keep it. But then again.....trade for a Z06 would be nice.

[drift into a curb]

you do OWN a 240 right? our interiors are completely generic and cheap, the seats are horribly uncomfortable and none of them came in all black.

My s14 seats weren't uncomfortable. The 240 interior design maybe common and made of plastic, but it's user friendly. I wouldn't mind the new c6 interior, but the c5 isn't much more impressive for a more expensive car than the 240.
c5
http://www.2phast.com/Corvette/interior1.jpg

[FaLKoN240]

you do OWN a 240 right? our interiors are completely generic and cheap, the seats are horribly uncomfortable and none of them came in all black.

and whoever thinks a 240 has better lines then a C5 is on crack.

the only reason i have my car is because i refuse to pay the ridiculous insurance on a C5 just because i'm under 25. the only way i'll keep my 240 in two years is if i'm just really attached to it. otherwise that hoe is gettin sold for a big boy project :)

I completely agree. To hold on to your 240 forever is stupid. There is nothing wrogn with missing it, but after a while you should grow up and move on. I can't wait to get rid of mine. This however shouldn't even be a debateable question. The answer is OF COURSE.

Should I trade this underpowered car that is not worth that much for a piece of hot american muscle ass?

[MakotoS13]

My s14 seats weren't uncomfortable. The 240 interior design maybe common and made of plastic, but it's user friendly. I wouldn't mind the new c6 interior, but the c5 isn't much more impressive for a more expensive car than the 240.

oh silly me. i thought sports cars were bought to be driven, not sat in so you could sit there and admire the interior. that is the number one most homosexual gripe about any sports car.

lets see, motor swap, coilovers, body kit, and thousands of dollars for a 240... or some interior trim to dress up the C5 a bit.

yeah, real tough decision.

[projectRDM]

The C5 has a few flaws.

1) Shitty quality interior, drive a year old model and you'll hear every panel creak. Try taking it apart and you'll never get things to line back up again, that is if you don't break every clip in the process.
2) High insurance.
3) High maintainence.
4) Questionable reliability. I know a few owners who've had to fix a lot of things out of the ordinary, others who outright hated the car after owning it.

Without question it's a nice car, and any modification yields 60% more power than anything you can do to a 240, but the parts are expensive and they're very hard to work on as well. I'd say if your intent was to just drive it, with a little autocross/road course time then it's a good investment if you find one that's priced right, otherwise I'd stay away. You'll get plenty more ass in it too, that's for certain, but that's not always a strong selling point.
Lastly, the Corvette community is very cool and open, but they don't relate well to younger buyers since it's more expensive to get into, so it may be harder to make friends right off.

[eyustfu]

yes i do own a 240, s14 for that matter but when you start paying big money for a car like the Z06 or base model C5, you'd expect the interior to be at least better than what it is now.

[Kreator]

would switch in a heartbit - if it was a direct trade deal :) As much as anyone loves their 240, corvette is a sports car. 240 - an effn commuter like a civic, protege etc etc. whatever you like to label them

on the other hand, i will not take active steps in switching myself even if i could afford (i actually can). i like my 240 and have no problems with driving it to work over a vette bmw or whathave you

oh and MPG! 25 (240) vs 18 (vette). :)

[jOeHaCk98]

I know some people might hate this type of thread, tictac. but i got a lot of good input that i didnt consider. The price difference will be minimal, insurance quote was also about what im paying for the 240.

[chlatboy]

Why dont we ask Var on this one. He made the switch and seems pretty happy with it. I wouldnt mind jumping into a C5. I mean i love my s14 and all but hey, i always got my project s14 around.

[North240]

Hands down c5 vette, if you can't swing hte z06 build your own, deffinitly not hard.

[jOeHaCk98]

yeah the price difference from c5 to z06 is about 10-14k. Thats school money :).

[MakotoS13]

not really. you can find a z06 for around 22-25K i bet.

[drift freaq]

would switch in a heartbit - if it was a direct trade deal :) As much as anyone loves their 240, corvette is a sports car. 240 - an effn commuter like a civic, protege etc etc. whatever you like to label them

on the other hand, i will not take active steps in switching myself even if i could afford (i actually can). i like my 240 and have no problems with driving it to work over a vette bmw or whathave you

oh and MPG! 25 (240) vs 18 (vette). :)

240 is a commuter car to you? Man did you buy into someones marketing. They succeed in screwing up your conceptions!!
S13 and S14 coupe's aka Silvia's was marketed as a sports coupe's in Japan and thats what they are . Not a commuter car!! S13 Fastback aka 180sx was marketed as a entry level sports car and thats what is. You cannot even put them in the same class as a protege or civic thats a reach if I have ever heard one!!

Now the Corvette is a non entry level Sports Car i.e. a car for someone who has more money. If you even have to point out the mileage figures you cannot afford to own a Corvette!!
On that note I personally liked the C5 till the C6 came out. Now I would take a C6 any day of the week . To me they are sex!!

[jOeHaCk98]

not really. you can find a z06 for around 22-25K i bet.


REALLY. Check prices for c5's in my area.

[Ian]

Would you step out of ur s14 and into a c5?

well i've done it before if that's what you're asking...so yes.

well not really, i got out of my car and locked it up, then got in the C5 corvette and drove away...but then i parked later and went to eat food and go to bed and stuff.

I personally do NOT like the c5 better, but they're 2 completely different cars. For a daily driver, DEFINATELY not. The C5 is bulky, and I hate driving it purely on it's driving position and size. Maybe if I had a bunch of money i'd get one, but maybe not even then. They're fun cars, handle pretty well, they have gobs of torque, but when it comes down to it. My little 250hp nissan is way more fun to drive, and just downright my style. The C5 is cool, but uncomfortable to drive and even more uncomfortable to park.


In my opinion, buck for buck, i'd rather have my 240 then a C5.


(for anyone questioning my opinion, my dad, whom i live at home with, recently traded in a track package G35 for the C5 Corvette and is loving it. I personally drive a WRX, which i got in trade for a Mini Cooper S, and my S14 w/ SR20 and boltons/coilovers etc.) So i have a pretty broad range of experiences to judge by i guess.

[mellojoe]

I completely agree. To hold on to your 240 forever is stupid. There is nothing wrogn with missing it, but after a while you should grow up and move on. I can't wait to get rid of mine. This however shouldn't even be a debateable question. The answer is OF COURSE.

Should I trade this underpowered car that is not worth that much for a piece of hot american muscle ass?
Ditto.

Trade my 240 for a 'Vette? Any day of the week. I love my little Nissan, but I'd take the Corvette if I had the option.

It would be the high insurance costs that would keep me at bay. But, hell, even the overpowered C6 z06 with its traction control would be safer to drive in the rain than the underpowered 240.

[orion::S14]

C5 fixed roof coupe -OR- better yet a Z06...YES.

For a track car - I'll take ~330rwhp out of a mildy-tuned LS motor versus my 300rwhp turbo'd KA anyday. And the low-end and midrange TQ makes it that much easier and fun to drive.

It is more money in every aspect...so if fast for cheap is what you want, stick with the S-chassis. If you have the flow...then Corvette all the way.

- Brian

[jOeHaCk98]

I really dont see it like that? I figure to turbo my car and have it perform the way i want it to, it would be close the the price of a vette without the work involved. The only vette i drove was a c4 callaway TT. Decent car, Id rather drive my 240 over that. The car kinda handled like my grandparents yacht. Also, has anyone actually checked the insurance cost on a vette? I ran it with my age (22) and it was the SAME as my 240.

[wootwoot]

I could have an absolutely amazing 240sx exactly the way I wanted it for 25k or a stock Corvette. My decision is made. But if I had 25grand to build a car it would be an e30 or e36 m3 anyway =)
Mayyybbbeee an s2000 since you can find them for awfully cheap now as well(12grand easily). 240 wont be forever thats for sure

[chmercer]

c5 TOTALLY. and i dunno whoever bitches about the interior in thoes cars must be driving lexuses all day and shit. the interior is really nice next to a 240. i hate the steering wheel. everything else is great. but then again, i hate all airbag steering wheels. but then again, i hate airbags.

20 grand into an s14 isnt going to be exactly super cool unless you do all the work yourself and/or use cheap parts.

5k nice shape 95 zenki
1k diff
1.5k coils
2.5k full other sus parts
5? 6k? into motor? i dunno on this one
2k brakes
2.5k aero (widebody or bust)
2k rims
.5k tires
2k paint body work
1.5k cool cage
1k other interior

thats above 25k already and i mean, not that great. you could get a magazine car i guess with that money but.. yeah. not that it will SUCK, itll still be nice, but, corvette is totally a better platform.

[SimpleS14]

Mayyybbbeee an s2000 since you can find them for awfully cheap now as well(12grand easily).


Where the hell did you find a S2K for that much? Guess those old folks down in FL get tired with their toys quick.

[wootwoot]

12grand gets you one I dont think to be in the best of shape. The average price for a 2000 is like 15k in the area it seems after autotradering it up

[240m3srt]

The LS1/LS6 motor is a great motor with good power potential. The motors are NOT that hard to work on. The crowd that has those cars is older well to do men. Some can be pricks, but most of them around here are really laid back and cool.

But take it from me, you will miss driving an import, and theres nothing like a 4cyl turbo that can hand a domestic its ass, just personal preference. Just weigh out the good to the bad and go from there.

[theicecreamdan]

I have not to this day met a guy with a corvette that was a dick.

[boycelaforest707]

FUCK YEAH get a c5, I would kill to own a c5! I have owned a few 240s, mr2s, c3 corvettes, I would take a c5 anyday in trade!

[MakotoS13]

I have not to this day met a guy with a corvette that was a dick.

very true. there are corvette owners and drivers. drivers like something about the car. owners like the car, tradition, and the performance evolution of the vehicle and they wave. in texas most people wave anyhow, but the vette wave is a worldwide tradition. you see a vette owner and you wave, they wave back, and you enjoy that brief moment of kinship... right before you hope to destroy him in a display of absolute unquestionable V8 domination.

push rod small block V8's are better and that's that, folks.

[jOeHaCk98]

well if i get one, ill be happy. if not, who cares, my car is still very nice.

[ghostchild316]

I would go for the C5 also!Plus parts dont have the jDM maRkUp or the jDM wAit.even stock they look sexxxy.... :yum:

Plus 7psi on a LS1 actually gets you alot of power,well being a V8 and all :rawk:

[Drunk Bastard]

where is var and why hasnt he responded yet.

he went from a s13 to a c5 (z06). so yea, his z06 is rediculously faster than his sr powered pink car. like, no comparison.

i think you should DEFINITLY get the c5, dont worry about all the small details like "oh, i dont have the jdm ash tray" or whatever. be a man. get the car with the beefy ass motor and have fun!!

[jaja]

dude, get the vette.... no ricer sounds, just pure american muscle. and no worries about jdm this and that. if you can swing it get it. not really sure what there is to discuss... its like someone asking for a comparison with a moped and a Harley. Get the HARLEY!

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

but the vette wave is a worldwide tradition. you see a vette owner and you wave, they wave back, and you enjoy that brief moment of kinship...

I've always enjoyed that as well, my dad is a vette owner, and I've been in and out of vettes a lot, and almost every vette enthusiast I've ever met are cool people.

For the track folks, the vette crowd is pretty big, and very accomadating to helping one another out on the track.

I've been debating on the C5 Z06 and MKIV after I get done with school, and its a big tossup.

[fliprayzin240sx]

i thought corvettes C5/C6 are one of the better handling american cars out there? But anyways i guess it all depends on what your trying to get out of your car. It all comes down to preferance and what your into. For me, S14 kouki fronts got me sold...i love my car for that. Went SR and now im a boost-a-holic. I love the fact that i can go drift once in a while, hit up the mountains then lit somebody up on a straight away*most of the time*. Right now theres only 2 cars i would trade my car for....an EVO or a G35 coupe 6 speed and depending on which car out of the 2 will define wut more than likely imma get into. Evo will be a nice all around handling car while a G35 for me will be just pimp.

[the240sxer95]

just buy a FD3S :)

[Silverbullet]

i wouldn't take a C5 over that Kouki... Has the S14 been SR swapped or KA-Ted? Because i can tell you an SR20 motor with boltons (FMIC, full exhaust, boost controller at 14psi) is dead even with a C5 and might even pull harder on the high way. You see vettes o nthe road all the time but not turboed S14s... thats jut my 2 cent

[Irukandji]

i would trade an s14 for a c5 in a heartbeat.

v8 powwwwaaaaaaa


wait for fnf3 to come out, then sell your car. Someone will buy it for 3x than what it's worth.

[wootwoot]

just buy a FD3S :)


God those cars are beautiful and amazing but hello maintainence!

[drift freaq]

i wouldn't take a C5 over that Kouki... Has the S14 been SR swapped or KA-Ted? Because i can tell you an SR20 motor with boltons (FMIC, full exhaust, boost controller at 14psi) is dead even with a C5 and might even pull harder on the high way. You see vettes o nthe road all the time but not turboed S14s... thats jut my 2 cent

maybe out in your area, around here SR'd S14's and KAT S14's are somewhat common.

[OdessaS13]

hmm, i wonder if the corvette people have a thread on their forum titled- "would you step out of a c5 and into a s14" :D

[Wei240]

best bet would be test driving one,
everyone has their own preference,
monster engine, super torque = loads of fun,
or some people prefer boost = loads of fun but it's different,

they have crappy interior compared to what you can buy for the same price or compared to direct competitors, can't compare s14 interior to c5, but if you are, it shows you how crappy the comparison is,
who says interior doesn't matter in sports car, alot of sports car have nice interiors, some just lack some standard nice things as a/c, cruise control,... you spend more time inside the car than looking at it from the outside, I would want to have a nice interior especially if i'm spending good money for the car...
and why would holding on the your 240 be stupid? it's a great commuter/beater car that gets great gas mileage and cheap to maintain

[mellojoe]

LS1 = over 300ft-lbs of torque from 1500rpm onward.

:D

[Jeff240sx]

Hand me some keys to a c5 with a manual tranny.. fixed roof coupe preferably, and I'll hand you the keys to my 350whp kouki KA-T, and I'll leave on it's $3k suspension and wheels. No joke. Bring me the keys. And a title, I guess.
-Jeff

[lucky7]

only vette ive ever actually like is the older C4 ZR1. in polo green mind you. other than that, i do not like vette styling, or the aura i get from the people driving them. in the next 6 months, i will be walking C5's with ease in my S14. something ive always wanted to do. because near detroit, if its not GM or Ford, its probably "jap crap". i hear it all the time, im a ricer, why dont i get a real car, blah blah blah. i will be saving money in insurance and the overall cost of the car, whooping their ass in my RB powered S14. and that excites me more than the thought of ever owning a vette does.

dunno, im just not into them. now for an 03+ cobra.. thats another story.

[zeek]

Only thing i dont like about vettes are the rearview, your sitting so low you cant see shit behind you without moving up and streching back in the seat.

I have a novel idea, why not put an ls2 in a s14 , you would have that "wholy shit v8 powa feel with the, OMFG i shat myself because im in a 2700lb,400hp all motor car witha muthafuckin V8, Import no less. That would turn hella heads.

All you need is about 15k for custom work and GM cratemotor/tranny +ecu/wiring

[jOeHaCk98]

was that last post supposed to be a serious one?

[zeek]

the only serious part of the post was putting a ls2 motor in a 240 besides that no.

[orion::S14]

FWIW, at a Corvette club "autocross" this past wekend (think SCCA, but with MUCH higher speeds...I crossed the finish line in 4th)...there were 40 cars...37 Vettes, me in my S14 w/ KA-T (300rwhp), a turbo'd Miata (250rwhp) on V710s, and a WRX on street tires.

I took 6th overall...fastest on street tires by a large margin (I run Kumho MX)...and the cars that beat me were 3 different C4 Vettes on Hoosiers, the Miata (2nd) on Victoracers, and a Z06 on Hoosiers...FTD was 30.2, I was running 31.4's.

So there's some real world experience of a S14 street car with decent power versus a bunch of Corvettes (probably half were C5 or Z06...then the well prepped C4s and a lone C6...and a '65 vert).

Again, FWIW...

- Brian

[jOeHaCk98]

why spend 15 grand on the swap when u can spend 15 grand on a vette? Besides smog legality would go to shit, most likely.

[WanganRunner]

If it was a straight trade, I'd take the C5 I think. I'd still rather have a C4 Z06 though....something about that LT5 that makes me happy in the pants.

There are lots of other things I'd buy for $25k before I'd buy a used C5 though. I'd much rather have a used S2000 or Evo, they suit my driving style a little better, and I'm not terribly fond of the often poseur-ish 'vette ownership community (I like that the S2k and Evo aren't available with auto trannies).

Generally, I prefer small, lightweight, super high-revving NA cars, and so the S2k fits my bill to a T. I have NEVER seen one for $12k though. If I had, I'd have bought it immediately.

[lucky7]

^^^^ 'splain what the C4 Z06 is/was. i just know of the C4 ZR1. i agree with you on the S2K account. but i personally am sick to death of hearing about evos/wrxs/350z's. to a point where i absolutely hate them. its not which car is better in general. its, which car is better for you? thats the real question.

[OptionZero]

easy
wrx = best value for 23-24k for new car but not huge potential (limited by tranny)
evo = if you are a driver and go to track and have 28-35k, buy this
350z = cruising, drifting, highway, show

[the head]

I have a C5 and while it is a nice car I must say I have had my share of wierd issues the car is a 99 and currently has 19,xxx miles on it it has burned up an AC compressor, a dual zone climate control unit and 5th and 6th gear have failed necessatating a trans rebuild

If it was going to be driven like a sports car I wouldn't recommend one.

[zeek]

thats why you buy the z06 with extended warranty

[jOeHaCk98]

wow, maybe a lemon? I've yet to find one used in a lot i can test.

[lucky7]

wow, maybe a lemon? I've yet to find one used in a lot i can test.


come to the detroit area. there are a billion of them. theres a dealership in i think dearborn that has like 300 of them on the lot durning the summer.