2006 Infiniti G35 sedan or 2006 BMW 330i

[ALTRNTV]

I'm planning on getting a new car in about 6 months and I can't decide which one. I want something with 4 doors and have narrowed it down to the G35 sedan or the 330i.

2006 BMW 330i
Inline 6 3.0L w/ 6 speed tranny
255hp and 225lbs tq/ft
$36,000

2006 Infiniti G35 sedan
VQ35 DOHC 24-valve w/ 6 speed tranny
298hp and 260lbs tq/ft
$32,000

The 330i

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/bmw_3seriessedan_330i_2006_exterior_5_346x270.jpg

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/bmw_3seriessedan_330i_2006_exterior_3_346x270.jpg

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/bmw_3seriessedan_330i_2006_dashboard_11_346x270.jp g

The G35 sedan

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/Models/2006/G35%20Sedan/01_2005_g35_sedan.jpg

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/Models/2006/G35%20Sedan/07_2005_g35_sedan.jpg

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/Models/2006/G35%20Sedan/002_2005_g35_interior.jpg

I'm leaning more towards the G35, well, since it's Nissan and has more power. I also like the exhaust tone. :D

I like the styling of the BMW, but the G35 is also so sexy.

I would really like the G35 coupe.. but I want something with 4 doors.

I have driven a 2005 330i and I fell in love with it. The handling is very responsive and the powerband is great.

[drftwerks]

they are nice, but they do not look the best, y small 4 doors??

how bout Q45 or LS430 the ls will hold its value a LONG time

but if i had to choose, it would probably be G35 looks more luxury

[KA24DESOneThree]

G35, for the love of God. I want people to stop buying the new BMWs just to get BMW to change its design philosophy. I owned a BMW, and I dislike BMW as a brand now. I had no bad experience with my car, it's just the new cars are too tech-y and too cheap-looking.

[ALTRNTV]

I want a 4 door car next, enough of this 2 door shit. =D

Q45.. I don't want to spend more than $35k, the new Q45's are in the $50k range.

[TurDz]

G35. I also love the exhuast note. A brand new stock sedan started up next to me at Drift Day Norcal and it immediately sounded like the Z...very nice.

Umm, if you do get the G35 sedan, consider a rear spoiler...for some reason, it fits on the sedan trunk. (Spoiler looks like crap on the Coupe).

I would personally get the G35. Maintenance and everything else should be a lot cheaper in general, and you can still be very familiar with the layout of the suspension and engine components.

[93DRIFT]

i would go for the G35, just look at the dash in the beamer, looks farking cheap if you ask me, and for a "luxury" car i think it should look a bit more like the money its worth, my 2 cents
graham

[ALTRNTV]

Turdz, Good point with the maintenance and the general stuff, but it's something about the Beemer..

Again, I drove a 2005 model, and the interior is really nice. Wood trimmed interior and the paneling doesn't feel cheap.

[rainier]

you should get a USED car. used as in 1 year/2years older. its way cheaper and its practically brand new. so yeah

[rainier]

but if you were to get the new car i think you should get the new camry. with that sexy ass kit. no idea what kit it is, but its oem and hot. lol yeah

[ALTRNTV]

Fucking Rainier. No to the Camry idea. Haha

[SimpleS14]

you should get a USED car. used as in 1 year/2years older. its way cheaper and its practically brand new. so yeah

He might want a warranty and there are some changes from the slightly older models.


I vote for the G35 sedan, coming from Turdz point...I would understand the car far easier than the BMW.

[theicecreamdan]

this guy's looking for a new BMW or a G35 and Rainier points out a Camry?
silly Rainy

[Toshiro]

id go for the 330i just because of the refinement you get from a bimmer

[Phlip]

Additional horses, considering cost of maintenence and that exhaust note.
... G35 gets my vote

[ALTRNTV]

I'm leaning alot towards the G35 since it has around 60 more ponies, and it being part of the Nissan family.

[OptionZero]

There's yet to be a manufacturer to make a better luxury sports sedan for the "sports" than BMW.

[infinitexsound]

bmw, g35 is nice but the bmw is just so hawt

[Phlip]

There's yet to be a manufacturer to make a better luxury sports sedan for the "sports" than BMW.
that is a "benchmark," the standard that others aspire to attain...
I agree with you there, but given initial investment and sustained cost of maintenence, AND more horse, I call G35

[NZO]

No point in getting a BMW unless you get an M. Just get the G, sounds better anyway.

[ALTRNTV]

I really would like an M3, but too much for me at this point. I guess it's G35 for me.. unless you guys can think of another car for the same price? Don't say STi or EVO, because I know I will spend money modding those cars..

4 doors
up to 35k
luxury amenities

I know it's going to be my choice, and I will test drive as much as I can, but I want to know other peoples experiences and opinions.

[OptionZero]

I don't believe the G35 is actually faster than the 330ci, despite the "horsepower" difference.

The 300hp 3.5L VQ is peaky.

[ALTRNTV]

I drove my friends '05 330i, and it felt really good all the way to redline. I was using the shift-tronic option.

OptionZero, what do you mean by "peaky?"

[TurDz]

I think he means as in tuned to get more maximum horsepower at a higher RPM. i.e. 300Z, G35, Altima, Maxima all have slightly different redlines and hp/tq numbers.

[ThatGuy]

G35 Sedan
or
Dodge Magnum ($30,910 for the R/T, 5.7 340hp HEMI V8
or $37,995 for the SRT8, 6.1 425hp HEMI V8)
http://www.dodge.com/gallery/img/magnum/enlarge_17.jpg

Four Doors, and haul ass!

If we decide to stop at 3 kids, I'll be looking into the Magnum myself. I know it's a staion wagon, but it's got room for the family and balls for spirited driving.

[Phlip]

^^^ Damn, how DID we forget about that? Hands down, best idea presented thus far

[ThatGuy]

There is also the "Magnum Sedan" (I refuse to call it a Charger) if you don't like the Wagon.
R/T $29,995 or SRT Price yet to be announced
Same hp as the Magnum
http://www.dodge.com/gallery/img/charger/enlarge_15.jpg

[wootwoot]

300c srt8, not enough class in the charger. I would still take a g35 over a Charger/300c though, I would just need to throw a supercharger on it or something. Do they make a g35 track model?

[ALTRNTV]

I want to stay away from domestics if I can, but the Magnum is a very nice car. They don't make a G35 track model.. lol.

[ThatGuy]

Why would you stay away from Domestics?

[ALTRNTV]

It's just because I want to stay with a Japanese car, or Euro. I'll probably end up getting the G35. I have time to think about it, so I guess I'll test drive one next week.

[Phlip]

It's just because I want to stay with a Japanese car, or Euro. I'll probably end up getting the G35. I have time to think about it, so I guess I'll test drive one next week.
That, sir, is RACIST!!! You got something against Americans? :rofl:

[ALTRNTV]

Yea. Fuck them. :down:





























:coold: Haha jk.

I generally want to stay away from domestics.. well, from their track record, they don't last very long.

[ranisron]

g35 hands down....

3 series is over rated. If I ever get a BMW, it has to be M or older boxy looking 325s...

[OptionZero]

The 300-HP 350Z (track, 30th edition, all '06's I think) all tested SLOWER than the 287 HP version.
Apparently the 300Hp version doesn't start making more power until after 5500-rpm or something to that effect, I'm not a Z or G guy so I didn't memorize the figures.

Also, when the G35 Coupe came out, people on the FreshAlloy G35 forum were complaining that it was overrated HP-wise and posted similar 1/4 E.T.'s as the 330Ci (previous gen).

So if you're looking at power, I don't really think that's an issue, i'd just consider it a wash considering the 300HP engine is virtualy a downgrade (unless you plan on spending time at the top of every gear in the VQ).

Handling, I've yet to read anywhere that says anything beats the feel of BMW steering, I know it clearly clobbers Lexus and M-B.

Maintenance wise, sure, the Infiniti might be cheaper.
Looks are subjective; I like the BMW front, hate the rear, but hate the G35 sedan all around (love the coupe).

Gas, interior space, price off the lot will probably all depend on you.

Bear in mind i'm talking only on what i've read, i've never driven either.

[Irukandji]

GET THE G35

g35 pwnz 330i

[ALTRNTV]

G35 1/4 mile- 14.28 @ 100.8mph

330i 1/4 mile- 14.31 @ 98mph

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0308_frst_g356mt/ (BMW time)

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2133.shtml (G35 time)

[ThatGuy]

Which one handles better at speed? A Dumptruck with a Saturn V rocket mounted in the back will haul ass in a straight line, but that doesn't make it a good vehicle.

[Eternal_240Sx]

What about IS 300

- 3.0-liter, twin-cam, 24-valve in-line 6 engine. Certified Low-Emission Vehicle (LEV)
- 215 hp @ 5,800 rpm, 218 lb-ft torque @ 3,800 rpm

Mazdaspeed 6

- turbo 2.3 liter DOHC 16-valve inline 4
- 274 hp, 280 lb-ft
- AWD

[ALTRNTV]

For handling, I'd pick the BMW. They don't call it the Ultimate Driving Machine for nothing.

[ALTRNTV]

I've thought about the IS300, but would have to say no to that. Good suggestion though. About the MS6, I read about that awhile back when it first was being developed. I'll have to see the reviews on it though.

[Indolent]

just get a 2 door lol

[wootwoot]

*slaps self* Subaru Legacy GT....

[p11driver]

i think you should get the 330i. i fucking love that car and think it looks so much better than the played out g35.

[lucky7]

because im a huge BMW fan, ive got to set you strait about 1 little thing that drives me crazy.

beemer = BMW motorcycle.
bimmer = BMW automobile.

haha.

anyhow, if you want more luxury, yet you want some power. look at a lease turn in E39 540i sport. 6 speed, xenons, lots and lots of cool toys. runs same 1/4 times as the E36 M3, yet its big, fat and has a V8 and a 6spd manual.

otherwise, i would look into a new E60 525 or something. big sedan, you could get in a manual tranny. i personally dont like anything about the G35/350z.

i just think the new E60 has massive amounts of sex appeal. i would really like a 545i some day.
http://www.tuning-bmw.ru/hamann-e60-1.jpg

[ALTRNTV]

Now that I thought about it more, the 330i seems more appealing to me now. How's the insurance on these cars? For the people who have them, care to shed some light?

[tallic_red240sx]

You can get a 2003 Porsche Boxster for under 35,000, I personally think it would would be a better investment.Just my insight!

[OptionZero]

dude, he wants a sedan.

[tallic_red240sx]

My bad...lol!The new accord hybrids are pretty nice.
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/specifications_descriptions.asp?ModelName=Accord+H ybrid&Category=Hybrid

[ALTRNTV]

I don't want an Accord..

Thanks to all your responses and replies, I think I will be test driving both this week.

[Wei240]

i was about to say the lexus IS, as in the new IS that's not quite out yet, i don't know how much it is, what exact engine options, performance numbers, options, yadda yadda yadda, it is a 4 door, supposedly a lot more refined than the previous version, stiffer and IMO looks alot better, Lexus is pretty good in terms of quality

but back to the discussion,
g35 4 door looks meh (coupe is sexy), but the new 330 looks good from the front but uber gay from the back, hate the tail lights yuck...
performance wise, yeah, look at the track numbers and not hp/tq numbers, bmw may have 'less' hp compared to many in its class, great handling, it kicks ass period, (are you even going to push it to the limits, if not, then performance shouldn't really matter..)
g35 has more room, and probably more toys/gadgets/options for the same price as the 330
in terms of maintenance, i'll bet the g35 is cheaper, and i've known bmw owners with crapped out electronics and tranny on pretty new cars...
tough call..

[ZK]

I've thought about the IS300, but would have to say no to that. Good suggestion though. About the MS6, I read about that awhile back when it first was being developed. I'll have to see the reviews on it though.

Well, the IS300 is no more. It is now the new IS350. 306hp and 277lb ft. 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. http://www.thenewis.com
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_41/car_portal_pic_20974.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_41/car_portal_pic_20975.jpg

But yeah, out of those two, the G35 definitely. The BMW price is probably less negotiable because they are in high demand. One thing that is a common complaint about the G35 is the seats, they are uncomfortable for long drives.

[ALTRNTV]

Ooooooooh nice! I wonder how much that will cost..

[skatanic28]

my dad's 3-series has free scheduled maintenence for 3 or 4 years as well, covering everything from fluid changes to wiper blades, brakes, etc. not really a huge deal, but little stuff like that can add up and its a nice touch.

whoever said that the VQ35 is peaky.....i would have to strongly disagree. it, like most other nissan motors, produces a pretty good amount of torque right off.

[TurDz]

The IS350 looks VERY SIMILAR TO THIS:

(NEW BMW 5-series + COROLLA REAR) REAR + (NEW ACCORD) FRONT.

bleh..it looks ok.


whoever said that the VQ35 is peaky.....i would have to strongly disagree. it, like most other nissan motors, produces a pretty good amount of torque right off.

I agree. Any VQ 3.0L and above is soo nice, so smooth, and so linear in power delivery it's awesome.

[OptionZero]

Wow, one word out of context.

Let me clarify: *PEAKY + ER*...peakier.

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB11&Number=67997424&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post68002184

and

Over at G35driver.com, there's a thread where someone dyno tested both the '04 280-hp and '05 298-hp G35 Coupes (both manual transmission) on the same day on the same dyno. The '04 made more power than the '05 up until around 5500-6000 rpm, but after that the '05 continued to make power while the '04 dropped off. The '05 made about 10 whp more at peak than the '04 did, but you wouldn't see that unless you were above 6000 rpm.
Link: http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60608

Short version: The '04's better power over most of the rev band makes up for its lower peak power, and that's why the 300-hp Z isn't any faster than the 287-hp version.

So your the "300hp" is really not 300hp...it's there, but all of it isn't available until higher RPM's.

I also have more faith in BMW's ability to make a sports sedan handle than in Infiniti/Nissan's.

For *performance* I'll buy the BMW, but there are obviously economic considerations, as well as personal taste.

Drive both, see which one you can see yourself having more fun in, then ask yourself how much that fun is worth to you versus any price difference.

Head to some bimmer forums, read some Motortrend/Road and Track/Car and Driver long-term maintanance reports, do the same for the G35, come back, and post pictures of what you buy.

Then give me the keys.

[TurDz]

Short version: The '04's better power over most of the rev band makes up for its lower peak power, and that's why the 300-hp Z isn't any faster than the 287-hp version.

So your the "300hp" is really not 300hp...it's there, but all of it isn't available until higher RPM's.



300hp is 300hp...doesn't matter if it's higher, it's still there.

Theoretically, it's still more efficient and faster to be making horsepower at a higher RPM.

http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html

It taken me a bit of time to absorb/understand this information, but it's very useful.

Since the VQ35 is so similar in all variations, it's still advantageous to have the HP at higher RPM because you can hold it longer in that gear (for that split second), while a slightly more torquey version (less peak hp) would have to shift sooner. In 3 or 4 shifts, it would make a difference in straight line.

The reason there why neither is noticably faster than the other is the small difference in hp/torque change. And the Anniversary 200hp Z weighs 20lb more (according to documentation.)

anyway, sorry to go offtopic. AkademikONE, when you test drive them, be sure to be able to get out on some open roads or curves! good luck!

[ALTRNTV]

I'll be test driving them this week hopefully, if my schedule allows me to.

[CHARLIE2020]

IMHO the sedan G35 is ugly, the coupe G35's are alot nicer looking but I also like teh BMW alot but I would get a G35 coupe.

[ALTRNTV]

I want something with 4 doors and have narrowed it down to the G35 sedan or the 330i.

I want a 4 door car next, enough of this 2 door shit. =D

4 doors
up to 35k
luxury amenities

4 doors. That rules out the G35 coupe.

[speeddreamz]

My vote is for the BMW, all you nissan people will probably hate. If its between the 330, and the g35 sedan, the BMW looks better with 4 doors than the g35. As far as a coupe, i'd go with a g35 coupe over a 3 series 2 door, unless of course its an m3.

The g35 still has quite the tacky interior if compared to a bmw, its not quite as plush, some parts are just too "nissan" and have a sorta cheap feeling to them. As far as performance and all that, i think they won't be too much different.

In the long run, the bmw will hold value, but cost more to maintain? so...its somewhat of a trade off, but I think your matience cost will be more than the value later on. I love both cars though... it'd be hard to decide.

[s13panda2004]

the 330i is a fuckin' yuppie transporter.. Its lost its flare and edge.

But I wouldn't get a G35 sedan either.

With that money I'd just get a used Tacoma..

[CHARLIE2020]

For 4 doors I vote the BMW then all the way.

[ThatGuy]

If you're going to go test drive the G35, and BMW, just stop by the Dodge dealer and drive the Magnum, Magnum Sedan (it's not a Charger damnit!!), and maybe the 300C, and let us know what you think. What do you have to lose? :wiggle:

[ALTRNTV]

I guess I will go teste drive the Magnum and the "Charger". :wiggle:

[Var]

Between the G35 and the Bimmer, it's a tough call. Both cars are great. I'd take Charger wannabe over both probably. New cars arent for the long run IMO. Just get something under warranty and ditch it before it's too late.

[OptionZero]

I love people coming here and telling him to get a truck or a convertible or an even more expensive car.

If we're going down that path, here's the only garage you need:

Lotus Elise- track whore

Lancer EVO IX- daily performance ride

BMW M5- Pimp mobile to roll into business meeting/conference

Ferrari F430- Clubbin

And for the helluvit, a Honda Odyssey for the soccer team, or just to haul tires for your lotus to the track

that's my dream garage if i'm 28-35ish with kids

[ZK]

that's my dream garage if i'm 28-35ish with kids

Yeah and if you make 500K+ a year. hahaha

[ghostuss]

my friend at UCSD got close to what you drived. a Mercedes s500 for daily drive and Elise for weekend. I drove the elisee , handles crazy good for a stock ride. It's a truely track warrior, but the interior SUCKED big time...

[lucky7]

I love people coming here and telling him to get a truck or a convertible or an even more expensive car.

If we're going down that path, here's the only garage you need:
BMW E30 M3- track whore

BMW M5- daily performance ride..

MB E55 AMG- Pimp mobile to roll into business meeting/conference

Ferrari 512 Testarossa- Clubbin

And for the helluvit, a FORD F350 SUPERDUTY DEISEL to haul tires for your lotus, err E30 to the track

that's my dream garage if i'm 28-35ish without kids


you spelled a few things wrong. i just fixed it up for ya. :wiggle:

lol.

[Neo-Maikeru]

I would get the G35 Sedan over the BMW. I know that you want to get away from 2-doors but IMO the G35 Coupe is way sexier than the sedan version. I would get the G35 Coupe over the both of them.

[OptionZero]

Any garage without a Lotus is missing something. That thing is automotive perfection.


And why stop there?
I'll take an Enzo and an F40, plus a few TVR's, and a Pagani Zonda.

I hope I can swing the EVO + Elise combo...by the time I graduate there should be used versions for half the current prices + I hope to have a job.

[ThatGuy]

My dream Garage is much simpler.
S13 240sx Coupe KA24DET

S13 240sx Convertible SR20DET

S13 240sx Fastback RB26DET

S13 240sx Fastback on a Jeep Frame 12" lift, 39" Tires, LS1 and 4WD

But to stay partially On Topic, I'm anxiously awaiting your comparison Test Drive Reports.
:D :D :D :D :D

[Var]

Your dream garage is a nightmare...there's a "T" after every engine.

2006 z06
2006 M5.

Done.

[infinitexsound]

64' impala
56'chevy truck
my current s14
and a lift....=)

[blaze1]

i dont know about ya but i want build a VIP style new q45 with 18x10s -10 offset slam to the floor omg!!!!

[drftwerks]

what about the new M45, ive seen a couple done up good.

[r thizzel]

those new m45s are verrry nice cars, took a tour of one the other day

[lucky7]

again though, out of his pricerange.

[Wei240]

yeah, he wants 4 door, somewhere in the 30-35k price range...

another option is acura tl, so what if it's front drive and basically an upscale accord, it's still pretty nice, got a lot of options standard, perfectly fine for daily driving hauling people around... just a thought

[slownslurious]

I drove one of the older 260hp sedans with the manumatic and it was very powerful and had excellent handling. I took it to the beach, drove it through the spray, did donuts, did not get stuck. Took it on the back roads and maxed it out at 144 mph, not too bad at all.

With the stability control off it had mild understeer that transitioned into lift off over steer when pushed to the limits. Power on over steer was pretty much on tap regardless of the best attempts of the 18" wheels, bridgestone potenza tires, and relatively effective factory limited slip. At low speeds its easy to steer more than intended because of the very light steering wheel and heavily boosted steering system, howeve I could nearly always feel what the front tires were up to.


Stereo system sounded excellent (the in dash changer) the seats were comfortable. Interior quality could have been much better, too many cheap plastics, but they have updated most of those surfaces and to be honest they did not detract too much from the car. The interior bits like storage bins seemed a little flimsy but I didn't have the car long enough for it to be a problem. The trunk was huge and swallowed up all my camping gear and other shit I tossed in it. Doors all closed with a solid thud, the HID/xenon/whatever headlights were very bright and effective as well as being a nice high tech touch. The car felt like it was made from a solid block of steel and remained very stable over uneven pavement and sharp bumps with no shuddering or squeaking.
The engine has a lot of torque and is still very willing to push the car in higher rpm's as well. Its like dipping the throttle taps into an endless well of smooth acceleration. Its defintely the "star" of the show. It certainly gobbled up its fair share of gas (I was getting 18 mpg mixed, worse during spirited driving). The automatic transmission was excellent even in full automatic mode. The manual mode gave quick upshifts and held gears like a manual, however it was sometimes clumsy while downshift in manual mode.
Biggest complaints would be low interior quality, overboosted steering especially at low speeds (felt good at high way speeds), and horrible gas mileage for a v6 car of its class (might have something to do with my right foot being heavy as well).

[wingsnthangs]

If you can afford the lifestyle, go German.

[ALTRNTV]

I'll be test driving the BMW and G35 tomorrow. I called Dodge and set-up a test drive for the Charger on Wednesday.

[luckie2hav3her]

too bad u can only spend 30k.... cuz if not I would say fuck all those cars and go for the 300hp all new acura RL

[ZK]

If your target is 30K, both the BMW and G35 are gonna be way above that.. more like 40K after tax/license/markup.

[ALTRNTV]

4 doors
up to 35k
luxury amenities

I'm pretty sure I can talk them down. Salesman would do anything to make a sale. $35-$40k is fine.

[ALTRNTV]

Wow. I think I made my decision...

2006 BMW 330i for me! It was no contest, in my eyes. The Bimmer handled like a dream and the power was there anytime I wanted it. The interior was nice and refined. I'm in love!

The G35 sedan on the other hand, didn't handle as good as the Bimmer, but still good. The power was not as good as I wanted it, unlike the Bimmer. The interior was ok, it looked cheap, but still nice.

I drove the Charger. That puppy's got TORQUE! Not my style though..

[OptionZero]

told ya so

[wootwoot]

Does the car have to be new? If not and you like 3 series I would get an e36 m3. They do come 4 door and are easy to find and good shape. Or how about the performane oriented 5 series? I cant remember the model name but it runs like a 13.9 I believe. I just like those a lot =)

[MakotoS13]

300hp is 300hp...doesn't matter if it's higher, it's still there.

Theoretically, it's still more efficient and faster to be making horsepower at a higher RPM.

http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html

i disagree. its all about the area UNDER the curve. ever see the torque curve on a 500hp 03 cobra? there isn't one... its just a line of 500tq all the way across.

when you get power and how long you keep it matters more than a short peak of 300hp. i mean, unless you like dynoqueens (ahem, supra).

[OptionZero]

um.... m5?

[wootwoot]

nooo. its just a 545li I think or something like that. M5's run a little quicker than 13.9's, espicially the new ones. Its the same car they used in the transporter and they still make it today. Its like the baby m5

[OptionZero]

the car in the transporter was a 7-series of some sort, perhaps a 750i or something. It could have been a 740i because itw as a 5-spd, and I don't know if they make a V12 manual in the 7-series.

That car's outta production man, they made a new 7-series.

BMW chassis codes confound me, so don't ask.

[slownslurious]

keep in mind it was a french car and they may very well have offered different models with different options (ie v12 with 5 speed) in europe... however, having said that I do not believe it was a v12 if the soundtrac is realistic

[supracrazy]

Get th new IS350!!!!

[OptionZero]

the new is350 is not a sports car, it doesn't even come in stick. If you want to compare the is250 (smaller v6 with manual, but way down on power, you can try but it won't win.

Lexus received complaints that the original IS300 was too sporty, and even that was a much-watered down Altezza that didn't receive all that much aftermarket support (As far as I know), and the new IS is really geared toward the crowd that would shop for a GS but can't afford a 50grand car.

Now, a new IS430 with a real 6-spd...

unrelated tangent:
Doesn't electronic throttle usually decrease a sport's car's potential? Seems like electronic throttle makes it harder to tune a car or fool around with the engine...

[that180guy]

i personally love bmw, and hate them at the same time. cant get more monsterous as a s14 motor fully built in a e30 m3.

but imho, the new 3series looks lik shit. all the new bmw designs are horrible, except for maybe the 6, but that car drives like shit (my pops test drove). they need back there old designers
and if ur thinkin domestics run problems, all the cats i know with bmws, after a few yrs, electrical shit starts togo. not reliable driving issues, but deffienently nusisances lik pwr window releays blowing, sensors craping out,etc.

G35 would get my vote, or that cadilac cts lik ss version ( the street version of the race car, id unno what its called)

[Var]

It's called the CTS-V. It sports the Z06 drivetrain. delicious

[alexchanman]

get a lexus gs. the new one but out of the two, i would go for the g35.

[ThatGuy]

This thread is still going? :loco:

[slownslurious]

bench racing never ends.

[019]

Wow. I think I made my decision...

2006 BMW 330i for me! It was no contest, in my eyes. The Bimmer handled like a dream and the power was there anytime I wanted it. The interior was nice and refined. I'm in love!

The G35 sedan on the other hand, didn't handle as good as the Bimmer, but still good. The power was not as good as I wanted it, unlike the Bimmer. The interior was ok, it looked cheap, but still nice.

I drove the Charger. That puppy's got TORQUE! Not my style though..

i was gonna chime in, but looks like it's not needed. i would definitely pick the 330 over the g35 hands down. i've had the opportunity to drive both cars to the limits (as well as the new a4) and the g35 is a pig... the suspension is crap, tires suck, body roll a plenty... even if handling isn't an issue, the 330 interior is nicer. just don't get idrive...

[24Zero]

Well here is my 2 cents G35!

Here is my Sister's 2 cents
2002 BMW 330Cic

http://www.jedward.net/bmw/images/bmw004_jpg.jpg

She has it in auto trader zip code 30339 if you are intrested

[ALTRNTV]

Wow. Didn't know my thread would reach 4 pages. Haha

24Zero, thanks, but I want the '06 model.

It will be mine soon... but who knows. I might do a frankenstein swap in my coupe sometime next year..

[ZK]

I sold the 240SX and picked up a Lancer Evolution... wasn't too into the image/luxury thing. Plus Mitsubishi was throwing a great deal with 0% financing, 10 year 100,000 mile warranty and invoice pricing on the Evo 8 models because the Evo 9 are showing up. Bone stock the car is pretty damn fast.

[OptionZero]

and you didn't let me drive it, darn yoooou phiiiiiiil!

[Jcb890]

i disagree. its all about the area UNDER the curve. ever see the torque curve on a 500hp 03 cobra? there isn't one... its just a line of 500tq all the way across.

when you get power and how long you keep it matters more than a short peak of 300hp. i mean, unless you like dynoqueens (ahem, supra).

:stupid: that other kid couldnt have been any more wrong.

[Jcb890]

i know the thread is old but here's my .02...

the G35 sedan is FUGLY.
the 330 is a nicer car i think and out of the two, i'd prob get a 330, but i can think of a better way to spend 30,000.

and why do you refuse to call it a Charger? I'm curious. Many of the old muscle cars like the Charger were like todays Mustangs or Camaro or whatever... just another car. Nothing special or anything, just a family car pretty much.

[OptionZero]

both the 330 and g35 will probably come in closer to 40

if you wanted luxury (which was his criteria) and had a hard cap of 30k, you'd have to go with the TSX (even if it is FWD...for comfort its bang for the buck).

Now if you wanted performance at 30k....Lancer EVO RS, buahahh

[nistech]

if u are gonna buy a g35 buy used one 4 doors are going for dirt cheap like 20grand

[MrBrightSide]

I am with the M45 that thing is VIP and packs heat...just my 2 cents