Drift Circuit San Diego

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Big thanks to the San Diego members that signed up for our driftcircuit.org event at Qualcomm Stadium 9-10-05.

Many people have had questions on how the event will be setup and opinions on what they want out of an event. I'd like to hear what zilvia members have to say so we can make sure the drivers are happy and keep them coming back for more action every month.

Yes I'm a newbie so take it easy if I dont follow forum etiquette.
Thanks to mrmephistopheles for the gracious invite.

[sdtouge]

with 100 people, you should do something like 6 courses if possible, then 3 grounds of like 33 ishh, begineer, intermiedaite, and andvanced, and try to do your best to keep numbers even while still seperating beginer and expirienced.
so each hour, 2 groups drive, one rest, so then split 6 tracks in hakf, 3 tracks eahc group driving, so 3 tracks 33 people 11 people in line. not as bad as 2 tracks.... but some wait till will still be there.
this would belike a big drift day kinda

or


you could have one round run first half of teh day
the other group run second half
then split two groups between each 50, and go no brakes. 25 people 6 courses for 7 hours woldt be bad.

ive been to a few events, couple drift days, couple just drift advanced days, a gymknak event so i have an idea of what would work i think. im also in san diego, so if you want to maybe meet up, im kinda excited lol so its kidna hard to get my ideas across understanble.

thanks
matt powers

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[DC Dan MAX USA]

I completely agree with splitting the run groups into ability levels.

We recently attended the Max drift event at the Fuji speedway 8-15-05. (Featured in our gallery page) They split the 80+ cars into six ability levels and the most intriguing thing about the amateur event was that there was one track with 15 cars running at once. I don't trust the US guys to be able to do that. The Japanese guys are sooo nice, if they crash into each other, they apologize and then continue drifting. In the US, I am sure fist fights and lawsuits would break out.

The way space is split up should come down to simple math.

Drivers = 100
Each run = 30 seconds less a few breakdowns
Hours Drivers have the stadium = 18 less setup and teardown

Space = 1/4 of the 160 acre stadium lot
Tracks = ?? as many as we can fit

Speaking of numbers of tracks...Why do I hear people saying Drift Day has 6 tracks?
A doughnut or figure 8 around a cone or two is not a track in my eyes.
I just went to DD27, they had less than 50 cars, and 2 tracks. I was only there half the day, and I ran out of rubber and energy, I was completely satisfied, it was the time of my life! See for yourself courtesy of everythingdrift.com

I would be happy to meet up with you sometime.

[revat619]

i think as long as everybody can get the same or close to the same amount of run time that you would at a drift day, then i think everybody will be happy. Its just the amount of drivers that makes me a little skeptical. I think i can speak for everyone in saying that nobody wants to be sitting in line for 20 minutes + in the hot sun waiting to drive.

I totally agree with spliting up the drivers in levels of experience. Also, like what was mentioned before, rotating run groups would be a good idea as well. Like drift day, do a two groups on, one group off sorta thing maybe.

[Flybert]

I just went to DD27, they had less than 50 cars, and 2 tracks. I was only there half the day, and I ran out of rubber and energy, I was completely satisfied, it was the time of my life! See for yourself courtesy of everythingdrift.com

If you think that people are going to be satisfied with the amount of track time that you got doing half day at drift day, you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you aren't fit to be out there the whole day but there are plenty of people who are. I drive an hour and 40 minutes to Just Drift events where we get more track time than drift days and burn through mad tires and I still can't get enough. We do this out in the desert in 100 degree weather too.

From what I've heard, the lot that is available to you is going to be small. Tell me this, how does the size compare to the california speedway lot? It better be twice the size if you want to safely accomodate 100 drivers. If it isn't, don't try to stuff more tracks into a small area because people slide off course pretty far sometimes and they might slide on to other courses.

I don't understand why you guys are trying to get 100 people out there at your first event. In addition to that, I think it would be safe to say that you are going to have a load of newbies out there in San Diego due to the lack of local events and you better expect that they are going to be spinning out all day long. The tracks aren't going to run smoothely and people will be stuck sitting in their cars or having to go slow around spinouts.

Basically I feel this event is going to be a disaster in more ways than one but I sincerely hope that you guys can make it work out somehow for the sake of all the SD people looking to drift in a local area.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Basically I feel this event is going to be a disaster in more ways than one but I sincerely hope that you guys can make it work out somehow for the sake of all the SD people looking to drift in a local area.

The whole point of why I am here is to get involved with the atendees/potential attendees to make sure it is a success and an ongoing one. We are breaking new ground here and we never thought the path would be easy.
Which is it, do you want to jump on the bandwagon of naysayers, or do you sincerely hope that we work it out for the sake of SD drifters?
I don't mean to get down on you, and I know the forum can tend to be a hostile environment but I would like to find a positive way to our goal.

I have put in alot of work to get the venue set up with insurance and logistics, I am loosing tons of money from my own pocket to get this off the ground but I can't do it alone, I need the support of drifters like you.

Obviously not everyone feels the same about Drift day. Some people left before me, some later that evening. You are a hardcore drifter, and you have the tires to back it up, thats good. I'll make sure you run the track with other hardcore drifters with mad tires, and the rookies will be running elsewhere in their own group.

We are allowing 100 because I can afford to loose five grand but I am not willing to loose ten. Have a look at the satellite picture of the Qualcomm lot and see for yourself. It is the latest News article picture on the front page at www.driftcircuit.org We can have the NE or SW lot or both if I win the lotto:)

I don't want to see you or anyone else get up before dawn, drive almost 2 hours to drift in 100 degree heat, and get screwed if something brakes on your car. Just having something, anything in SD would be a blessing to the SD drifters isn't it? I have never been to JD so you'll have to tell me about it. If you run for hours out there don't you overheat?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

i think as long as everybody can get the same or close to the same amount of run time that you would at a drift day, then i think everybody will be happy.

Agreed, I love Drift Day. We'll do our best to make everyone as happy as DD drivers.

[sdtouge]

i had to leave my car at garage works on time lol in paldale:(

im not saying a few cones for a j turn is a track, but is somewheere that you can drive with out huge lines.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

i had to leave my car at garage works on time lol in paldale:(

im not saying a few cones for a j turn is a track, but is somewheere that you can drive with out huge lines.


That must have sucked. What was the expendatures for that incident?
True, we'll have the skidpad(s). They take hardly any space.

[sdtouge]

actualy it was free, i hadd this wierd cut out problem, and motor was running like poop etc, they so i left it with them, and all they did was compression test it, when i was back in san diego lol so i came up and they said i had some expenses ahead of me so i just got it free, nice guys.



also, is it true you guys are flying someone in from japan to do a demo or course lay out?

how does drift day do this with 50 people and still do good $$ wise?


what are you doing for staff? volenteerS?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

So it was good enough to limp back to SD?

I'm sinking in about 5K to handle all of the extras.
Naoki said they don't make money.
He also said he looked into qualcomm, Many promoters have, it is good but it is expensive. This is why we require 100.
Eisuke "Max" Takemura is indeed getting flown in but it is not just for show, he will indeed be helping on course layout, instructing technique etc. Check out the photos of his 8-15-05 event at Fuji Speedway in our gallery that i mentioned earlier.

I have a good crew made up of friends of mine who used to drift the streets with me, guys I have worked with for years, family, and some nice people with experience with this sort of thing that dropped me an e-mail and hooked up with the team. I asked Naoki what he thought about all this, he said he does not hate the fact new practice events pop up in his region but he is concerned about some stuff just like everyone else. He says he wouldn't mind being involved in an event that is in a decent venue like Qualcomm Stadium.

[knightrider]

i know for a fact, DDay doesnt make much if any money on events, also Ctune covers the bill for JD events, cali is too expensive because of insurance and venues are scarce.

anyone that is thinking about attenting this event, bring lots of tires, i mean lots, atleast 4 pairs, the qualcomm lot is rough and eats em up quick.

i also was wondering about your staff, a smooth event needs great organized staff, atleast 2 or 3 per track, depending on the size(flag man, and Corner workers for picking up cones). course layout is also important, the courses need to be fun, and challanging, a course consisting of 1 huge sweeper coupled with a slow intricate section is fun. but it takes up space. i also doubt you will get more than 2 cars on track at a time because of the obvious safety reasons(insurance). i think what would really be nice, and i think helpful, is a meet, set up a meet before the event date, spread the word, anybody that wants to input advice show up. that way we can get a show of what ppl really want, maybe ppl can bring drawings of what type of course they would like to see. something like that. this is all of course if its ok with Drift Circuit. but i think a meeting would really help everyone voice there ideas. forums take too long to have conversations. we are all local anyways right?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Good ideas, true statements and positive contributions. I never thought I'd see that on a forum. I like it.
We should definitely meet up. You guys could save/modify/print the birds eye view I have on the front page under news on www.driftcircuit.org I have a high rez version where the gutters and light poles are marked in red. I can e-mail to you. I was also going to go map the potholes/any other hazards you can’t see on the satellite picture. Drift Circuit’s name comes from emulating the famous D1 courses in Japan. I have all the layouts, and I planned on moving the Drift Circuit event around the different quadrants of the Stadium every month to accommodate the different circuits.

[Sideways_In_SD]

I completely agree with splitting the run groups into ability levels.

We recently attended the Max drift event at the Fuji speedway 8-15-05. (Featured in our gallery page) They split the 80+ cars into six ability levels and the most intriguing thing about the amateur event was that there was one track with 15 cars running at once. I don't trust the US guys to be able to do that. The Japanese guys are sooo nice, if they crash into each other, they apologize and then continue drifting. In the US, I am sure fist fights and lawsuits would break out.
This might be true, with inexperienced, infantile, newbies to this sport. Us old dogs understand that if that's how you play, then you have to be ready to accept the consequences. I personally would LOVE to have an advanced group run JUST like that. It encourages tandem runs and collision avoidance.

But, that being said, who decides who's advanced and who's not?? DDay stickers on your window?? My car only has two, my name has registered for 3-4, I've driven 5 or 6 including Advanced events, and a Drift Showoff, and Driver Search. That's not counting the D1 events I worked as Pit crew for Mr. Ueno. What about JustDrift and Charlie's private events, Land Ho events, and others that don't give out stickers? Sounds like a lot of people to me. But at the same time there's only a handful of drivers in San Diego I'd trust following me in a drift, and a few of them wouldn't trust themselves, and those are ones I've known to go to events for the past year or two.
So bottom line, if some newbie decides his SR motorswap, that he hadn't learned how to control yet, makes him advanced; and he e-brake/understeers/skids into me, because he was attempting to "tandem" or was following too close, without the skill, because I had to stop, because somebody infront of me spun, then yes it will get ugly on the track. There's just TOOO many posers down here to let drivers classify themselves. Sorry I don't consider playing around on the 905 experience.

The way space is split up should come down to simple math.

Drivers = 100
Each run = 30 seconds less a few breakdowns
Hours Drivers have the stadium = 18 less setup and teardown

Space = 1/4 of the 160 acre stadium lot
Tracks = ?? as many as we can fit

Speaking of numbers of tracks...Why do I hear people saying Drift Day has 6 tracks?
That's exaggerated nonsense [standard]. Typically DDays have 3 courses, a large course, a small technical course, and skidpad/donut ranch. This varies by event but, that's typical.

I remember hearing something about you guys wanting to mock race tracks in Japan. Which is a novel idea, logistically isn't very practical, esp given the real estate constraints and the necessity for a small course, and a nerd ranch, also I don't have the power to link turns 1 and 2 of Fuji Speedway :wtc: someday...

The other interesting point is event support. How many people do you have lined up to work this event?? Do they have any experience as a course worker?? How is vehicle tech inspection going to work?? What are those individuals looking for?? Are they experienced mechanics??

Are you going to offer concessions (stupid question, I know, but someone was bound to ask it)??

I would be happy to meet up with you sometime.
I think a meeting with all local shops that plan on attending/already signed up to discuss things would be a novel idea. As well as a meeting with Moto from Drift Association, would probably be beneficial as well.

I'm very excited at the idea of San Diego having it's own events. But going this big on the 1st event, when you've only attended 1-2 events yourself, no offense, is setting up for a big fall.

Speed Alliance is totally supportive of this event and would like to help out in any way we can. Let us know what we can do.

:rawk:

[knightrider]

you could maybe upload the high rez image to your site, also i think for future events, the NE or NW lot might be better because they have the least amount of obstructions, the SW lot has the trolley (but is the largest).and the SE lot has the barricades throught it for vip or player parking or whatever it is. we all seem to have good ideas, cuz this event has been talked about alot, :) everyone in SD is excited, but is reserved because many ppl and organizations have tried and failed to have events at the stadium.

so what does everyone think about a meet happening in the near future? should i just throw a date out there or does anyone else have a suggestion, i know this weekend is short notice, and FD is going on in LA, so not this weekend, but what is everyones schedute next weekend, or maybe a night meet during the week when everyone is off work?

[Sideways_In_SD]

Ok, yeah ignore the parts you just answered, i was doing other thing while typing sorry.

:Owned:

[knightrider]

we are all in our own little worlds,warren. i was daydreaming*cough*lookinatporn*cough* and other important things like making my car run by the time this event comes. (woohoo my car is running an SR ecu!!!)

i, like most of the time, agree with warren gzy on classification, most ppl will say they are advanced cuz they have an SR and have been to an event or 2. i think the run groups should be split into skill, but ppl will be moved when thier skill doesnt meet the requirements of that run group. ie, if you cant hold a drift, and keep spinning out, move em back to beginner.

i would love to tandem, but wouldnt trust many ppl cept for my friends because i know how they drive, i know warren g is balls out, if we were to collide mid drift, i would prolly jump out, give him a high five, and jump back in the car and take off in a cloud of smoke. the other thing you have to understand is the skill level in japan is crazy, amatures in japan are on a totally dif level.

also when looking at lot 12 at cali speedway and the SW lot at the Q, they are similar in size, but remember, we will have to have our pit area most likely inside the SW lot, ideally we would have it in the inside parking lot(closer to stadium).

but 2 main tracks is prolly about max, maybe 1 or 2 J turns/skidpads for the newbs.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

who decides who's advanced and who's not??

I remember hearing something about you guys wanting to mock race tracks in Japan. Which is a novel idea, logistically isn't very practical, esp given the real estate constraints and the necessity for a small course, and a nerd ranch, also I don't have the power to link turns 1 and 2 of Fuji Speedway :wtc: someday...

Are you going to offer concessions (stupid question, I know, but someone was bound to ask it)??

But going this big on the 1st event, when you've only attended 1-2 events yourself, no offense, is setting up for a big fall.

Speed Alliance is totally supportive of this event and would like to help out in any way we can. Let us know what we can do.

:rawk:

I think it will be pretty clear after watching every ones individual runs who is capable of tandem and who is not.

Just like in D1, we will not use the whole circuit, just the turns they judge.

HA HA, Yes we're selling wieners and drinks. Actually I know the guy who has the only permit in SD to do flame BBQ dogs on a mobile hot dog cart they are awesome. They'll take care of the snacks.

Oh thanks Warren, is this history repeating itself already? (flyberts last line) So Ill ask you too...
Which is it do you want to jump on the bandwagon with the other naysayer’s or are you and Speed Alliance in fact totally supportive?

You can get involved and become a part of what makes this event and SD great or you can say things like you’re taking a "big fall", and see that it happens. If everyone is supportive it will work, and it will be a monthly venue. If everyone hates the idea it won't fly no matter how bad I want it to. I am just the ambassador trying to keep the city of San Diego, Qualcomm and local drifters happy. Of course it is a precarious situation because they want permits, money and insurance, and the drifters want seat time & lots of courses. Those things don’t mesh easily so I would appreciate your support.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

i think the run groups should be split into skill, but ppl will be moved when thier skill doesnt meet the requirements of that run group. ie, if you cant hold a drift, and keep spinning out, move em back to beginner.

also when looking at lot 12 at cali speedway and the SW lot at the Q, they are similar in size, but remember, we will have to have our pit area most likely inside the SW lot, ideally we would have it in the inside parking lot(closer to stadium).

but 2 main tracks is prolly about max, maybe 1 or 2 J turns/skidpads for the newbs.

OK so the real question is how do we properly determine skill levels before the first event if people aren't honest?

When you rent skis, they have to figure out how long the ski will be and how to set the binding based on your skill level. They do this by a little questionaire like can you handle moguls etc. We can develop our own questionaire

I think the lots are similar. Right, We can have pitts between the "ring road" and the stadium to maximize course space.

You are probably right, 2 tracks, doughnut, figure 8, Jturn.

[sdtouge]

the just drift advnace groups run two at a time, doesnt mean they are tandom and it works well. just leave enough space so if the person in front spins, you have enough room to stop, and accelerate back to speed so you dont have to grip drive the course lol


ya i big meet up or someting along the line of that would be cool.

[knightrider]

the way to properly determine the skill is through honesty, maybe a little questionaire. maybe like,
how many events have you participated in?
yrs/months involved
and watchin them drive, if they are not at the same level as the other ppl in that group, they get dropped down.

also i dont know how hard this might be, but you might wanna add a forum to your site, it would be much easier to gain feedback, and get everyone attending the event in one place.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

We have the ability to setup a forum but I have always disliked the s**t talking aspect which makes me reluctant to do so. I am on the computer all day communicating via e-mail for my business but very few people actually send an e-mail to get facts straight, they seem to prefer chatting so I am trying it out here. You have all been great... so far:)

[ghostuss]

omg omg. you are doing drift events in SD AFTER I SOLD my freaking 240. ERRRR I am pissed. Damnit damnit damnit.... Now I am thinking picking up a beater s13 with a welded diff and some used coilovers. Err.... Anyway I really hope this gets through. I would attend all of the event if I am in san diego. Hope this one goes smooth for you guys. 100 ppl do seems a lot, but I bet you can cut the cost down once you have some experience on hosting the events.

[Flybert]

Well it seems like you guys have a good attitude about everything so I'm gonna help you as best as I can. It seems as though you guys have a decent sized lot to work with and 18 hours of available time from what I've heard. 18 hours can totally accomodate the 100 cars that plan on being there.

1. Send a mass email out asking people how many events they've been to and what level they think they are at. Inform them that this is very important in maintaining the efficiency of the event and that they will be looked down upon by other drivers if they are spinning out like mad in advance groups. In fact, I'd tell them that they will be penalized for shitty driving just to scare them into being honest. Confident drivers will know to register for advanced run groups so you shouldn't have a problem with that.

2. When drivers arrive, have them immediately check in to registration to get their run group placement. Explain that they must go tech their cars and their will be a drivers meeting immediately afterwards. Have a big schedule near the registration tent that has times for REGISTRATION, TECH INSPECTION, DRIVERS MEETING, and RUN GROUP TIMES. I'd suggest having copies of the schedule on papers as well that get handed out at the registration desk.

2. Next thing you must figure out is how to tech 100 cars and you need to know what to look for. I'd say have about 4 lines of cars for tech 1 to 2 people working each line. Place a tech sticker on the windshield after they pass tech. The stickers don't have to be fancy either.
GUIDELINES FOR TECH
a. Battery needs to be secured firmly
b. Intakes need to be secured even if it's with some zipties
c. I'd suggest having them turn off the car and turn it back on to make sure their starters are working properly
d. Check brake pedal pressure
e. There shouldn't be any major cracks in the windshield. I'd let small ones fly.
f. Check for obvious leaking fluid as the car is right there.

3. After tech, you need a drivers meeting. Here are some points that I would make sure to talk about.
a. This is our first event and we are looking to make it run as smoothely as possible.
b. We are out here to have responsible safe fun. Leave lots of space between yourself and the person in front of you. Check your tires and tire pressures frequently. If you see cord, it's probably a good time to put on some new tires or call it a day. When you come back to the pits, make sure you drive 5mph or less because there will be a lot of people walking around and we don't want you to hit them. People seen speeding in the pits will be kicked out of the event. Take care of yourselves by eating food, staying in the shade, and drinking lots of water.
c. We don't want to see people blowing motors. It is gonna be hot out here so check your water temps frequently to make sure you aren't overheating. If you hear rod knock or something funny, take your car back to the pit and try to figure out what's wrong before you throw a piston through the block and leak oil all over the course.
d. We hope that you have placed yourself in the proper run group. Poser drifters should not be registered for intermediate or advanced and they will be looked down upon by other people in the run group.
e. We'd like to make a good name for ourselves. When you leave the facility at the end of the event, drive home responsibly, especially within the vicinity of the stadium.
f. And once again, reiterate that we are out here to have fun, learn how to drift, and create a community of San Diego drifters. Be helpful to other people around you and just have some good safe fun out there.
g. Go on to explain the courses and the scheduling of the day.

4. It seems like you already have somebody setting up the courses for you so I am going to suggest that you have one to two flag workers per course depending on the size that are in safe locations. From what it seems, your event will be much like drift day so it's probably not going to be a full continuous track where people do laps. I'd suggest letting the starting flag worker determine how fast he should let people on to the course based off of the driver skill that he witnesses. This will help people get more track time.

5. I'm not sure if you plan on having demos by pros or advanced drivers but I'd really keep those to a minimum. People are out there to drive, not watch.

6. THE PIT SITUATION: Do not let spectators park their cars in the pit area. Thieves could easily steal stuff and get away in their cars. We really don't have that problem at Just Drift because everybody knows each other and our events typically have 30-40 people but it might be something to consider. Seeing how SD seems like a car thief capital, I'd even suggest that people take their license plates off.


That's all that I can think of for now but if something else pops into my head, I'll definitely post it up here.

[sdtouge]

thats gonna be a big ass are for the pits lol. also i saw you guys were selling helmets for cheap.

and what is your rule on passengers?


test the starters? lol
at the last just drift event i was having people pushing me down that slight slope at the oval to jump start it lol.

[Sideways_In_SD]

<thumbs up> Flybert

Like I said, let us know how we can help.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Good Ideas, Thank you for your support.

Here is my proposed statistics/schedule for the tracks. Run time on circle, 8 or Jturn are not factored into the stats and are therefore in addition to runtime below. Shoot holes in this if there are any.

Total Cars = 100
Tracks = 2
Run Groups based on skill = 6 (A to F)
Cars per group = 16 or 17
Total hours of track time per group = 4
Average runs per car = 28.8
Entry Fee = $100 (for rsvp)
Dollars per run = 3.47

Schedule

5am-9am Setup Courses/Tech for Run group ABC
1pm-3pm Tech for group DEF

Time Track1 Track2 Break
9am A B C
10am C A B
11am B C A
12am A B C
1pm C A B
2pm B C A
3pm D E F
4pm F D E
5pm E F D
6pm D E F
7pm F D E
8pm E F D

If some drivers still are not satified with this, they can come early or stay late.

[ghostuss]

first of all that is hella little track time... Anyone who been to justdrift, DD would tell you this 30 runs is nothing. You need to definitly increase seat time for drivers or at least on the first couple events to leave a good impression. You can cut the car number down to 70 or less, I would suggest 50ppl on the first event. Price can be increased but car number has to be low on the first couple events. For 100 spots, first you might have trouble filling up, second more car means less organization, third a lot less seat time for drivers. Also for tracks, have 2 tracks and two donut course and a figure 8 course, then we should be good to go.

[Flybert]

I feel that you are starting too late for 100 cars. This is how I think you should do it.

5:00 - 7:00 AM Set up the course
6:30 - 7:30 AM Tech inspections for All Cars
7:30 AM Drivers Meeting for All Drivers
8:00 AM Track Time Begins

Time CHOOSE YOUR OWN TRACK (Make access to other tracks safe and simple. Explain how to get to each track in the drivers meeting)
8am AB
830am CD
9am EF
930am AB
10am CD
1030am EF
11am AB
1130am CD
12pm EF
1230pm AB
1pm CD
130pm EF
2pm AB
230pm CD
3pm EF
330pm AB
4pm CD
430pm EF
5pm AB
530pm CD
6pm EF
630pm ABC
7pm DEF
730pm ABC
8pm DEF
830pm FREE FOR ANYONE THAT HAS TIRES


Now let me explain why this is better than your schedule. First, you are having the course set up while you are doing tech which cuts down on the time of morning activities.. Next, you get all cars teched and drivers meetings done in the morning, eliminating two different tech inspections and drivers meetings. Much more efficient. In addition, some people will be driving from far places to get to this event. They do not want to be sitting around watching half the day if they are in DEF groups. Allowing people to run all day like this makes it so that people feel busy driving. With my proposed schedule, this allows suitable 1 hour breaks in between runs to leave and get food or just to relax.

Groups towards the end of the day mesh together because people will have run out of tires by now. The 830pm run group is free for all because a LOT of people will be done with their tires.

For the skid pad and figure 8 pad. I'd give people 30-45 seconds per person on the pad and have a flag or air horn warning telling people to get off for the next person. If their isn't a person behind waiting in line, let them keep going. In the drivers meeting, encourage the newbs to utilize the j-turn, skidpad, and figure 8 to improve their skills because if they don't, the 2 main tracks will have long lines and they will run slowly due to spinouts. Remind the newbs that when they are on the skidpad not to overheat because it's very easy to do doing first gear donuts.

My CHOOSE YOUR OWN TRACK schedule is designed to accomodate the ABC (more skilled) drivers because they most likely will want to be on the main tracks more than the skidpad, J-turn, and figure 9. The main 2 tracks should be run as quickly as possible so people aren't waiting in line super long. This is what will make or break your event so have it going as fast and safely as the skill level of the drivers allows.



WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS SCHEDULE??? I personally think it's waaaay better than the one posted above mine because it maximizes track time to the fullest. I think it can be pulled off too.


I EDITED AND ADDED A FEW THINGS SO READ AGAIN IF YOU ALREADY READ BEFORE 12:28 PM

[DC Dan MAX USA]

first of all that is hella little track time... Anyone who been to justdrift, DD would tell you this 30 runs is nothing. You need to definitly increase seat time for drivers or at least on the first couple events to leave a good impression. You can cut the car number down to 70 or less, I would suggest 50ppl on the first event. Price can be increased but car number has to be low on the first couple events. For 100 spots, first you might have trouble filling up, second more car means less organization, third a lot less seat time for drivers. Also for tracks, have 2 tracks and two donut course and a figure 8 course, then we should be good to go.

I just came back from DD27, everyone I know did <30 runs and I killed 2 sets of tires. So is this schedule really a lot less time than Drift day? It was modeled after Drift Day. The Difference between my proposed schedule and DD is we have double the cars and double the time, everything else is about the same.

I don't think what people expect for their money will go down after the first couple events. You think 50 people would pay twice as much for double the seat time? We have 85 pre registrants at this time, 15 spaces left.

[revat619]

I feel that you are starting too late for 100 cars. This is how I think you should do it.

5:00 - 7:00 AM Set up the course
6:30 - 7:30 AM Tech inspections for All Cars
7:30 AM Drivers Meeting for All Drivers
8:00 AM Track Time Begins

Time CHOOSE YOUR OWN TRACK (Make access to other tracks safe and simple. Explain how to get to each track in the drivers meeting)
8am AB
830am CD
9am EF
930am AB
10am CD
1030am EF
11am AB
1130am CD
12pm EF
1230pm AB
1pm CD
130pm EF
2pm AB
230pm CD
3pm EF
330pm AB
4pm CD
430pm EF
5pm AB
530pm CD
6pm EF
630pm ABC
7pm DEF
730pm ABC
8pm DEF
830pm FREE FOR ANYONE THAT HAS TIRES


Now let me explain why this is better than your schedule. First, you are having the course set up while you are doing tech which cuts down on the time of morning activities.. Next, you get all cars teched and drivers meetings done in the morning, eliminating two different tech inspections and drivers meetings. Much more efficient. In addition, some people will be driving from far places to get to this event. They do not want to be sitting around watching half the day if they are in DEF groups. Allowing people to run all day like this makes it so that people feel busy driving. With my proposed schedule, this allows suitable 1 hour breaks in between runs to leave and get food or just to relax.

Groups towards the end of the day mesh together because people will have run out of tires by now. The 830pm run group is free for all because a LOT of people will be done with their tires.

For the skid pad and figure 8 pad. I'd give people 30-45 seconds per person on the pad and have a flag or air horn warning telling people to get off for the next person. If their isn't a person behind waiting in line, let them keep going. In the drivers meeting, encourage the newbs to utilize the j-turn, skidpad, and figure 8 to improve their skills because if they don't, the 2 main tracks will have long lines and they will run slowly due to spinouts. Remind the newbs that when they are on the skidpad not to overheat because it's very easy to do doing first gear donuts.

My CHOOSE YOUR OWN TRACK schedule is designed to accomodate the ABC (more skilled) drivers because they most likely will want to be on the main tracks more than the skidpad, J-turn, and figure 9. The main 2 tracks should be run as quickly as possible so people aren't waiting in line super long. This is what will make or break your event so have it going as fast and safely as the skill level of the drivers allows.



WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS SCHEDULE??? I personally think it's waaaay better than the one posted above mine because it maximizes track time to the fullest. I think it can be pulled off too.


I EDITED AND ADDED A FEW THINGS SO READ AGAIN IF YOU ALREADY READ BEFORE 12:28 PM


I, for one, am definitely in favor of this proposed schedule. And i totally think it could be pulled off as well. Anybody else?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I feel that you are starting too late for 100 cars.

Much more efficient.

In addition, some people will be driving from far places to get to this event.

They do not want to be sitting around watching half the day. With my proposed schedule, this allows suitable 1 hour breaks in between runs to leave and get food or just to relax.

Groups towards the end of the day mesh together because people will have run out of tires by now.

For the skid pad and figure 8 pad. I'd give people 30-45 seconds per person on the pad and have a flag or air horn warning telling people to get off for the next person. If their isn't a person behind waiting in line, let them keep going. In the drivers meeting, encourage the newbs to utilize the j-turn, skidpad, and figure 8 to improve their skills because if they don't, the 2 main tracks will have long lines and they will run slowly due to spinouts. Remind the newbs that when they are on the skidpad not to overheat because it's very easy to do doing first gear donuts.

My CHOOSE YOUR OWN TRACK schedule is designed to accomodate the ABC (more skilled) drivers because they most likely will want to be on the main tracks more than the skidpad, J-turn, and figure 9. The main 2 tracks should be run as quickly as possible so people aren't waiting in line super long. This is what will make or break your event so have it going as fast and safely as the skill level of the drivers allows.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS SCHEDULE??? I personally think it's waaaay better than the one posted above mine because it maximizes track time to the fullest. I think it can be pulled off too.



We can start and end as early and as late as the local residents and cops allow.
I was planning on having one worker/volunteer for every 5 cars, so having 2 meetings/inspections should not be a problem or hurt the flow of driving.
I liked the idea of a questionnaire, so we would determine run groups based on skill ahead of time so that people don't show up at the wrong time and wait. Your schedule has them there all day with a total wait time of 8 hours. Do people really want an hour break after every run? Yes it is guaranteed to thin out as the end of the day draws closer.

Your schedule does add one more hour of driving to mine but it multiplies my schedules wait time from 2 to 8 hours. If wait time will make or break it your schedule breaks it. Choose your track, innovative. I wonder how it would play out.

If 5 hours of run time per group is the magic number then we can run from 8am to 10pm on my schedule without the multiplied wait.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

omg omg. you are doing drift events in SD AFTER I SOLD my freaking 240. ERRRR I am pissed. Damnit damnit damnit....

Sorry, you are not the first person to tell me something like that. Lots of SR240's for sale!

Hey isn't this worthy of viewing/opinion of other experienced drifters from elsewhere? mrmephistopheles directed me to the regional section but there is only 7 people participating in this discussion. Don't get me wrong, you guys are cool and have great ideas, but if it comes down to a vote, 7 won't cut it. What about the satisfaction of everyone else example: people who don't know how to drift? That type of driver is a part of our roster, they are contributing to fund this, right?

[knightrider]

well, they are going to want instructors, so some of your staff will need to consist of expirenced drifters that are qualified enough to instruct ppl on the basic techniques of drifting.

the problem with your schedule is you are doubling you work by splitting up the day into 2 parts, flyberts idea is good, keep the rotations every half hour and it will minimize tire wear by not allowing too many runs concecutively(sp?)and tires heating up too much.

i know myself, and i normally bring 2 to 3 sets of rears to DDay and normally go through them all, including the tires i drive home on. thats 4 sets on a normal surface, i will be there all day, i have access to tire changing machine. and a friend might try and bring one to the track. used tire places are all over, and open on saturdays.

if you want more opinions post on all the other boards linking back to here. ussually boards dont have a problem because its a discussion, your not promoting the board or anything.

i know most of the ppl posting here know what they are talking about, i know everyone except sdtouge and ghostuss have all been to many events.

[Sideways_In_SD]

Hey isn't this worthy of viewing/opinion of other experienced drifters from elsewhere? mrmephistopheles directed me to the regional section but there is only 7 people participating in this discussion. Don't get me wrong, you guys are cool and have great ideas, but if it comes down to a vote, 7 won't cut it. What about the satisfaction of everyone else example: people who don't know how to drift? That type of driver is a part of our roster, they are contributing to fund this, right?

I'll post some links to this discussion on some other boards to direct some traffic here. But there is no other area outside SoCal that has as many events as we do, and being as everyone participating are locals, already signed up, with lots of event experience; I've read through the list of Sign ups, and outside of us, there might be 6 or 7 others that have done, eh maybe 1 or 2 events, not counting the girl with the Jetta. So we've got a pretty good think tank.

Honestly, this event could be pulled off in completely lame fashion, and most of the sign ups wouldn't be the wiser, because just about all of them don't know a driving event from a car show. So anyway you decide to run this will probably be fine for the majority, but the experienced folks will probably skip these until it gets more sorted out. So I wouldn't sweat the execution too much. Not trying bash, just being honest.

:rawk:

[sdtouge]

ya that was my thought about the noise and early/late people sleeping. my friend lives at some of the appartemnts near qualcom and you can hear cars even just when te drag races are on so i would imagine drifting would definialty be heard.

not that it matters, ut knight rider ive been to 5 drift days, a gymkana, and 2 just drift advance days... so 8 total

[DC Dan MAX USA]

your staff will need to consist of expirenced drifters that are qualified enough to instruct ppl on the basic techniques of drifting.

the problem with your schedule is you are doubling you work by splitting up the day into 2 parts, flyberts idea is good, keep the rotations every half hour and it will minimize tire wear by not allowing too many runs concecutively(sp?)and tires heating up too much.

i know myself, and i normally bring 2 to 3 sets of rears to DDay and normally go through them all, including the tires i drive home on. thats 4 sets on a normal surface, i will be there all day, i have access to tire changing machine. and a friend might try and bring one to the track. used tire places are all over, and open on saturdays.

if you want more opinions post on all the other boards linking back to here. ussually boards dont have a problem because its a discussion, your not promoting the board or anything.

i know most of the ppl posting here know what they are talking about, i know everyone except sdtouge and ghostuss have all been to many events.
Staff are all drifters, except my family members. Double my work? I'll survive. Tire wear & heat, You have 15 people in front of you when you complete a run so that is 7 min. to cool down between runs. No consecutive runs. Must be 2-3 sets of used tires right? A tire machine? Don't you need air, power, and a 500lb machine?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I'll post some links to this discussion on some other boards to direct some traffic here.
Honestly, this event could be pulled off in completely lame fashion, and most of the sign ups wouldn't be the wiser

:rawk:
Thanks for putting it out there. Even in this forum no one ever views regional, seems most are in general chat. HaHa We'll do our best anyways.

[knightrider]

i think the stadium is gonna kill lots of tires, more than fontana or irwindale. the surface is very rough. and big tom was the one telling me he was gonna try and buy a tire machine, only thing you really need is the machine, and a gas powered air compressor, i doubt that will go through, even still, i have access to a tire machine in miramar, close enough for me to change tires between rounds.

im just thinking, running half the ppl in the morning, half at night is kinda ehh. ppl are planning to be there all day, some might be traveling from a far. they prolly wont wanna sit there the whole morning if they are in the evening groups.

i have no problem and i think others are also used to it, arriving early giving maximum time to drive.

[Flybert]

We can start and end as early and as late as the local residents and cops allow.
I was planning on having one worker/volunteer for every 5 cars, so having 2 meetings/inspections should not be a problem or hurt the flow of driving.
I liked the idea of a questionnaire, so we would determine run groups based on skill ahead of time so that people don't show up at the wrong time and wait. Your schedule has them there all day with a total wait time of 8 hours. Do people really want an hour break after every run? Yes it is guaranteed to thin out as the end of the day draws closer.

Your schedule does add one more hour of driving to mine but it multiplies my schedules wait time from 2 to 8 hours. If wait time will make or break it your schedule breaks it. Choose your track, innovative. I wonder how it would play out.

If 5 hours of run time per group is the magic number then we can run from 8am to 10pm on my schedule without the multiplied wait.


The thing about drift events is that people plan to make an entire day out of it. Like somebody said before me, spreading out the day gives the motor and tires a chance to cool off. In addition to this, people will most likely be coming with friends or will make friends at the event. The wait time isn't a big concern because people will be hanging out. In addition, from what I read, you are allowing ride alongs. People in off groups can be riding with other people during their wait times which allows the time to pass faster and most importantly, allows the newbs to learn driving techniques from other friends and more experienced drivers. Like Just Drift, you guys are allowing ride alongs which has probably been one of the most important factors for me in improving my own driving ability. Wait time = ride along time = good. In the drivers meeting, encourage people to ride along with more experienced drivers.

Now as for your staff, I'm assuming that since this event is pretty much twice the size of a Drift Association Drift Day that you will have twice the staff. Personally, I'd have a staff that works the morning allowing them to leave at around noon and then switch them out for the evening crew. If you don't have this much staff, you are going to want to figure out a way to rotate people to be able to take breaks for lunch and water. If you can give us a solid number of staff that you will be having work for you, we might be able to figure a schedule out for you.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

When I was at drift day I was amped. We drove for two hours and stopped for an hour. It was cool because I just drove drove drove until I was sweating from head to toe and I was exhausted. Then lunch, then another 2 hour session, then I was wasted but happy. I don't know if 30min on and 1 hour off will please the drivers who are amped to drive drive drive. Someone once said "I'm having second thoughts, this is turning into a big meet" most people just want to drive from what I gather. You guys want to sit for 8 hours getting drifting blue balls? With the ABC morning run and DEF evening run you have the option of hanging out and watching the other half of the drivers, or not. Mixing ABC&DEF groups no longer gives them a choice.

Hanging out with friends, making friends, having a community of drifters who share techniques, and experiences sure that is my utopian dream of a drift event and I would like to see that happen. But are you all going soft on me now? Not one person has contacted me and said can my friends hang out? Will we be able to hang out all day? Everyone just rides me about having the audacity to think a drift event could have 100 drivers in it. And the subject up for discussion was SEAT TIME only. So have we crossed the threshold where everyone is satisfied with 5 hours on the track, and it is a non issue from this point forward? So we can talk about hanging out and having fun?

I should confirm with insurance before I say absolutely yes or no on ride alongs.
I was planning on a staff of 20 including bigtom.
It would be cool if someone brought a tire machine. I have an air compressor and generator. True, the surface is rough, but Fontana is the same, the tar is worn off with the grit exposed.

[Flybert]

Ultimately, you will decide what's best for you and your staff so just go with what you think will work. I am just making suggestions to help you with coming up with other possible ideas. I am not saying that your original plan is bad or anything so don't think of it that way. Hell, this will be the first event so it's not like it has to be perfect. Learn from it and try to make improvements. If it runs perfectly, stick to the same game plan.

One last thing. Remind people at the drivers meeting to make some suggestions on the forums on ways to improve the event. I'd like to consider myself an advanced driver and because of this, I only represent a small percentage of the drift community. Gather as many opinions from the people that attend the event, from newbies to tandem drifting masters.

[ghostuss]

I am already excited for the next event in SD. now having events in SD makes me want to pick up a beater s13 for cheap just for the event.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Ultimately, you will decide what's best for you and your staff so just go with what you think will work. I am just making suggestions to help you with coming up with other possible ideas. I am not saying that your original plan is bad or anything so don't think of it that way. Hell, this will be the first event so it's not like it has to be perfect. Learn from it and try to make improvements. If it runs perfectly, stick to the same game plan.

One last thing. Remind people at the drivers meeting to make some suggestions on the forums on ways to improve the event. I'd like to consider myself an advanced driver and because of this, I only represent a small percentage of the drift community. Gather as many opinions from the people that attend the event, from newbies to tandem drifting masters.

Right, I appreciate your suggestions. I think your plan is solid, and it is nice to have something to compare and contrast to my plan. I welcome additional scenarios as well. I am sure it won't be perfect, we'll learn something at every event. If people in SD love drifting like me, anything would work. I'd pay anything to drift legally and regularly in SD. Anything is better than getting tickets, impound, arrested etc. or getting up at 4am driving roundtrip to LA and hoping your car doesn't break down in the process.
Right or maybe a simple suggestion box at the event when things are fresh in their mind. I'll have to keep an eye out for you drifting masters to set up competitions in the future.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I am already excited for the next event in SD. now having events in SD makes me want to pick up a beater s13 for cheap just for the event.
I know a guy with an FC rx7 for sale that has been completely reworked in the engine compartment. Or if you want something cool that you just take to events, pick up a right hand drive s13 from G Speed Corp, they come with the SR drivetrain and some extras for cheap.

[ghostuss]

i never seem to trust rx 7's they always seem to be the ones with problem in drift events lol... Sorry not to stereotype but that's just my observation. RHD s13? How much that would run lol... I said a cheap beater ...

[knightrider]

thats because most ppl dont know jack about rx7's. now i know i dont know everything about em, but my buddy does, and he has never had a problem with his 7 and hes been to plenty of racing events, not just drifting. i would love to get an rx7 but i would still like to learn more about em before i do.

[ghostuss]

Yea that's what I heard. Those things are hard to tune. In the last JustDrift event, a lot ppl including me was getting choked to death by a rx7 putting out TONS of black smoke in the front of the line. That's just one incident of the many.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

$4500 for the Gspeed RHD S13
$4300 for the US FC rx7

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Anyone want to meet on friday night/weekend?

[knightrider]

sounds good, where do you have in mind?

[revat619]

yeah a meet up would be cool. Hey jordan, wanna help me install a new clutch? :D

[knightrider]

u already burned that one up? good, now we can replace your messed up pilot bushing. hehe, what you got going for this weekend, i might be free, if i can get my car to the shop and on the dyno, otherwise ill be at work dynoing my car on saturday but sunday i dont think i got anything going on, lemme know, also where you wanna do it?

[revat619]

hahaha yeah. It was already semi used to begin with and me clutch kicking the way i do, didnt help really things. Especially considering the day after we finished the swap i was at drift day beating on it:D

Messed up pilot bushing? Psssssh, havent you heard? That whining noise you CONSTANTLY hear is my new supercharger fool! Boost is on 24/7...even at idle. It makes all the mustangs crap their pants in fear of my cars down right awesomeness. You betta reconiiiize biatch! :rofl:

Seriously though, I dont have anything going on this weekend, but as far as a place to do it, i have no idea. It sucks major balls since i dont have acces to a lift.

To keep with the thread, are we actually going to do some kind of meet up?

[knightrider]

yea it was used, but yea, we should uninstall that "supercharger" of yours, hahah. did you pick up a clutch already? oh nm, you work at the zone yo, jus pick one up from work, they are fine. i will talk to my parental figures and see if we can do it at my house, i doubt my dad will have a prob, hes gonna be working on his car and the motorcyles this weekend, i got all the stuff at my house to do it anyways..

on topic, if we have a meet, just dont make the location in clairmont or kearny mesa, those places are crawling with cops with nuthin to do but pull ppl over. oh wait, thats all of san diego PD, shit. i just really dont wanna look at all the ricers in KM. whats the parking situation near your shop mr driftcircuit?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

My shop has plenty of parking and it is in the back of a industrial district so you are all welcome to come by and hide your cars from the cops and the ricers, Haha. Only downer is that my office space is small so not the best place to talk.
I'm thinking a restaurant might be better, one with a bunch of outdoors tables? like all the places by Edwards theaters in Mira Mesa, Oscars, or Rubio's, Daphne's greek, Jamba Juice, Pickup Stix, Starbucks Etc. with that center court of tables? What do you all think?

Last minute mod for me this weekend: Nismo GT LSD
Anyone need a S15 LSD with 30,000 kilometers let me know.

By the way, are you conversationalists coming to my event? We only have a few spaces left and tomorrow (9-2-05) is the last day for the RSVP pricing for pre-registrants!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Revised schedule/stats

Statistics

Total Cars = 100
Tracks = 2
Run Groups based on skill = 6 (A to F)
Cars per group = 16 or 17
Total hours of track time per group = 5
Average runs per car = 36
Entry Fee = $100 (for rsvp)
Dollars per run = 2.77

Schedule for 9-10-05

Time Track1 Track2 Break
5am Course setup
6am Course testing
7am Tech Inspection/Registration Groups ABC
8am A B C
9am C A B
10am B C A
11am A B C
12am C A B
1pm B C A
2pm ABC ABC (Tech inspect/registration DEF)
3pm D E F
4pm F D E
5pm E F D
6pm D E F
7pm F D E
8pm E F D
9pm DEF DEF
10pm Clean up
11pm Drift Circuit is closed

[knightrider]

mira mesa town center is the name of that place, right off mira mesa blvd and the 15 Fwy. it sounds good, but that place will be packed on a friday night, the best place to park would be at the home depot, and walk over to the Starbuck/jamba juice/coldstone area, that is if there are tables. but we can strong arm ppl to shove off.

i have been registered for this event since there were like 6 ppl on that list. my buddy jason and i heard about the event from big tom prolly first. i will be stopping by your shop tommarrow around lunch to drop off payment.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Thank you.

[knightrider]

np, sorry i waited so long, i didnt know if my car would be up and running or not. the new ecu just went in and the tuning will be done hopefully in time :) if not, i got a spot for sale, lmao

[kognition]

Man i wish wasn't broke this week, otherwise i would partake in this event.

[revat619]

hahaha jordan, you procrastinator! HA who am i kidding, i'm paying tomorrow too and i've been registered almost as long as you guys.

[knightrider]

im not a procrastinator, you homo, get outa here with your metrosexual car.
my car still barely runs, if worse comes to worst, i will just run my stock CA computer. i still need to get tires too. :(

[vrtblacksheep86]

This is Booney,
Sorry it took a while to find this joint.
Okay DriftCircuit.org lemme know whats going on tomorrow Morning.760.207.8734 ask for Staff Sergeant Renfeld (Booney) I'll go ahead and head down tomorrow night. JUst drop aline or text me at that number and I will be down too. I would definitely dig a bit of dinner somewhere away from the O' side area, and a bit of time talking aobut this would set my mind at ease as to how you intend to run an enormous first time venue like this. We talked alot the other day in your office, but I had a few more questions that Im sure alot of these guys mihgt wanna hear in person and add to mine....

WarrenG are you up. Here's your chance to crack that bottle of Grey Goose open...er, maybe not...


Booney

[knightrider]

what time are we showing up at mira mesa town center?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

8PM tonight

I think we should go to Pat and Oscars because the other common area food court will be swamped, and the only people at the Oscars outdoor court is the people who buy food there, and by buying some food, we have the right to table(s) without muscling other patrons out of the way.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Man i wish wasn't broke this week, otherwise i would partake in this event.
I am in El Cajon.

Not every week is there a drift event in SD.

Go into debt, it worked for me:)

[knightrider]

gotta keep those debt consolodators in business eh?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Thanks for coming out to the meet. Nice to know SD has some established drifters who care about the scene. Good to see everyone amped, we are going to have tons of fun out there. I'm sure the guys who didn't show will appreciate the collaboration, ideas, and preparation time going into making this event the SD mainstay that we all need it to be.

Thanks for everyone that got in their RSVP payments in by today. For the rest of you it will run $120 but I assure you it will be worth every penny.

[meatish]

Sorry i couldnt make it but from what i hear from Jason i am now looking forward to saturday a great deal. See you guys there!

[Spdrules5]

So, before I sign up for the event, how and who will be determining skill level and group placement? And what is the total time for each person in a run group?

Will there be entry fees for people who want to come and watch? Will there be a place that those people can come and watch the action?

What is the final word on passengers?

Thank you-

USDRFTR

[knightrider]

So, before I sign up for the event, how and who will be determining skill level and group placement? And what is the total time for each person in a run group?

Will there be entry fees for people who want to come and watch? Will there be a place that those people can come and watch the action?

What is the final word on passengers?

Thank you-

USDRFTR


you will, atleast 5 hours

looks like 10$

yes passengers are allowed, i suggest you go look at the drift circuit site if you havent already. and read through this thread, this stuff was covered.

[Spdrules5]

you will, atleast 5 hours

looks like 10$

yes passengers are allowed, i suggest you go look at the drift circuit site if you havent already. and read through this thread, this stuff was covered.

I have, both. This thread has been filled with a lot of opinions, but nothing concise. I'm looking for track time amount. Trailer the car down for 5 hours, for $120. Hmmm.

Mourning or afternoon? Which was the final schedule for run groups?

[knightrider]

well it will prolly be alot more than 5* hours, judging by how many ppl have paid already, which is like 20-30 ppl from the pre registration list. the schedule setup for 100 ppl gives everyone 5* hours, but the schedule willl change depending on how many ppl accually show up in the morning for registration, that will dictate how many groups will need to be formed, and if they really need to split the day in half.

*fixed amount of track time, :doh:

[Spdrules5]

well it will prolly be alot more than 4 hours, judging by how many ppl have paid already, which is like 20-30 ppl from the pre registration list. the schedule setup for 100 ppl gives everyone 4 hours, but the schedule willl change depending on how many ppl accually show up in the morning for registration, that will dictate how many groups will need to be formed, and if they really need to split the day in half.

Not even 5 hours for sure........
So, as of right now, it is more than 4 hours, but possibly more if people don't show up that are suppose to show up. Not much hope, $120 + for maybe more than 4 hours, unsure if mourning or afternoon, and we are 4 days away from the event. Would someone from Drift Circuit like to comment on the amounts of time for the fees paid?

[revat619]

Like the site says, if all 100 drivers show up, which is HIGHLY unlikely considering only 20 -30 have paid (and like you said, the event is only 4 days away), then the schedule we will run will permit each driver to 5 hours of driving. That is the LEAST amount of time you will get. 6 run groups. A - C are beginners and will run the morning schedule, and D - F are intermediate/advanced and they will run the evening schedule. AGAIN, if all 100 people show up we will run this schedule. This probably wont happen though and in that case we will most likely run a 3 run group schedule and each group will be at rest every 2 hours. 2 hours on, 1 hour off. This will go on from 7am to 11pm. Now you can do the math and see that thats a crap load of seat time! :D

[knightrider]

if your advanced, you will be driving at night, unless they dont break it into 2 sessions then you will drive all day.

this is a first for san diego, and for drift curcuit, so you have to understand they are still trying to guage the interest in SD for an event, pre registration filled up, but so far 24 ppl have paid from that list of 100. they will have to see how many ppl accually show up in the morning, so if you wanna drive, you will need to be there in the morning for registration. otherwise you wont be driving. this is setup for mostly local ppl because LA has enough events on its own, no one really expected ppl would be coming down from LA.

if you really wanna plan for this weekend, you could call drift circuit and get info from them, we just had a meeting friday night about this saturday. and give the guys at drift circuit a break, they are losing lots of money for us SD ppl to have a local event.

and to clairfy its 5 hours, i screwed up earlier and didnt notice, 5 hours, not 4

[meatish]

Yeah in any case this should be a lot of seat time because im not expecting a lot of people to show up and pay in cash, mainly because drifters are cheap bastards. But in other news i just got a shitload of tires today from Garcia's llantas y servicio de coche. So im ready for Qualcomm (Jack Murphy stadium, in my heart) and it's sandpaper tarmac.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Sorry for lack of posts, I have been organizin', loading parts into the car, and hosting some guests from Japan.

Thanks for the people who are up on the latest info for posting answers.

If anyone wants to know something, please feel free to call me, I am always happy to chat about drifting, and answer questions.

E-mails are going out to all pre registrants now with updates.

[meatish]

Great event! Fun courses and plenty of seat time! It was a little unorganized, and $10 is a little steep for the casual spectator, but otherwise good. Im sure if it was only $5 to spectate, everyone would have coughed up the cash, and you guys would have made some money. Otherwise, you should have everyone sign the waiver at the door, like at driftday events. Plus, drivers should get a free spectator pass for their 'pit crew' person. Just some suggestions to make it a little smoother next time. Oh yeah, and if your crew isnt TELLING people to stop running out of their group, which they werent before the big meeting, then they wont, because people are always going to cheat to try and get more runs on their favorite course, if you let them, which was what was happening yesterday.

[RBS14]

Yeah, the event rocked.

I didn't think it was unorganized at all. For his first event, I think Dan did very well. Hell, if it was his 10th event, I wouldn't have known otherwise. Everything went very smoothly from what I saw. The courses were excellent too. Both were very different styles, and could accomodate almost every level of driving.

I wasn't aware of people running out of their group, but that can be fixed next time. All Dan has to do is tell his crew to look out for it and send people where they need to be. Not a big deal. Especially yesterday with how much track time we got. Hell, I shredded/peeled 5 tires, and nearly toasted another 3. And I don't even have any power. That place is VERY hard on tires.

Great job Dan! Can't wait till October 23rd!!

Lets see some pics/vids people!

[LukeDogg316]

pics of the Event are up in www.240sxforums.com/forums

drifting section

[meatish]

Ill second that on the tire killing. I went through 8. And i have stock SOHC..

[.::SR20_240::.]

anyone have any pics or videos of the event??? i was there but i did not have a camra so i did not get to take any pics..

[Yeap]

Ill second that on the tire killing. I went through 8. And i have stock SOHC..

I also killed 8 tires with my SOHC.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Great event! Fun courses and plenty of seat time! It was a little unorganized, and $10 is a little steep for the casual spectator, but otherwise good. Im sure if it was only $5 to spectate, everyone would have coughed up the cash, and you guys would have made some money. Otherwise, you should have everyone sign the waiver at the door, like at driftday events. Plus, drivers should get a free spectator pass for their 'pit crew' person. Just some suggestions to make it a little smoother next time. Oh yeah, and if your crew isnt TELLING people to stop running out of their group, which they werent before the big meeting, then they wont, because people are always going to cheat to try and get more runs on their favorite course, if you let them, which was what was happening yesterday.

Thanks, I am glad you had a great time.

It is only $5 for prepaid spectators. No spectators prepaid, so I wasn't expecting many. No such thing as a casual spectator as far as the insurance is concerned, they are simply paying for their own insurance. The event funding is provided by drivers.

Waiver at the door... an area that the city and insurance disagree on. Insurance requires it however the venue setup makes this difficult. I knew it was going to be difficult so I asked the city to let me take control of our section of the ring road to police everyone who enters or passes through. They said NO, we can't want a traffic jam at the entrance. Which created the "casual spectators".

On people running out of their group... Crew allowed it because at one point everyone smoked their tires, and there was like 2-3 people waiting on each track so does it matter if they switch up with no one out there, of course not. However when everyone got the spares on and got back to the course, we just couldn't allow the free for all because we wish to minimize wait time for you between runs.

I was actually very pleased with the respectfulness and organization of the drivers. The courses practically ran themselves all day long. So if we only had to remind them once about the rules, hey no big deal.

Thank you for supporting the San Diego Drifting Community.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Yeah, the event rocked.

Great job Dan! Can't wait till October 23rd!!

Thank you Thank you. See you there!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I also killed 8 tires with my SOHC.

You must be running used tires. Which is cool if you have a lot of rims. I had 3 Japanese drivers in addition to myself tearing it up out there in the S15, and it smoked 2 sets (of new 18's)
That is the same amount of rubber I smoked at DD27 even though the car wasn't ran as hard at cali speedway's lot 12.

I purchased tires on Esuke-San's recommendation which was Federal ss595. He says all the drifters at Fuji speedway run those. They are only $98 for 235/40/18 at http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/tires_brand/Federal.php
in Santee.

He says he runs Bridgestone Potenza RE01R 215 / 40 / 18 up front.
I did roll the edges of my front tires pretty good (Bridestone Fusion)

That guy is the man! Anyone see those runs (Jap in the orange candy helmet)

I really have to say there is a lot of great drifters in San Diego. Esuke-San compliments all of you. He has a very positive perspective about Americans after this trip through watching and interacting with the drifter community in SD.

[Yeap]

I forgot to mention ...Great Event. I'll be back for sure. Yea i had 4 new and 4 used tires. The donut track killed a pair of used tires in less then 5 min. Good times. My only complaint was the specatators parking in the pits and taking spots.

[borohingacoupe]

Thanks Dan And Drift Circuit!

I only had my s13 a couple of weeks and this was my first ever drift event. I had a blast and i can't wait to go to the next one. If I can find tires, wow i went through a bunch! I think you guys ran a great event, if only more spectators would follow the rules, but I know there are already acouple ideas to fix that problem.

Thanks again for the awesome event and let me know if there is anything me or my team can do to help.

Matt

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I'm loving the compliments. Keep it coming. They are important to validate all of the hard work that goes into the event and for all of the volunteers on staff to know their time is appreciated by all. I would like to put some quotes up on the website so people can see the testimonials. I think it is just phenomenal that everyone had an awesome time. Thanks for coming out and for those of you thinking of trying this out, I think you will have the time of your life. I did.

Drift Circuit #2 is scheduled for SUNDAY October 23rd. We hope to see you there!

[Spdrules5]

I must say, AWESOME event Dan! and the rest of his crew for flagging and working ALL day long so we Drifters' can have a great time.
The tracks were very well defined, seat time was great! Weather was great! Tire eating sucked! Bring lots of tires for lots of fun!

Anyone with pics or vid. yet?

[meatish]

YES!!! Thank God for Sunday events! I work every saturday and barely managed to get this one off. That previous post was all constructive criticism, i'd like to say that your event blew drift day out of the water. The courses were very technical and fun, there was an insane amount of run time, the staff was all super friendly, and, hell, its only 20 minutes from my house! Take that, Fontana! Thanks a lot for putting on a great event, and giving San Diego drifters a place to shine.

[IchigoMae]

that event was freakin sweet, run time was insane. WELL organized for your first drift event. i would have to say that i got more run time in drift circuit than i did in any drift day. just need to try to control the spectators, i kno its tuff. but they kinda get in the way. pit roadways are floaded with their asses standing around, and their damn cars taking pit spots.anyway i would gladly keep supporting drift circuit. but i need some fucking tires

[VRTMiKe]

awsome event!!! My crew and I had a great time and wewill be at the next one. By the way, where are all the pictures? i saw tons of people taking pics and video. so where is it all?

VRT MiKe
VRT Cali
Team hinga

[vrtblacksheep86]

Hah! Thought none of you would find me here, huh!?
Well dan, your crew did a phenomenal job and I'm glad I had a part in your event. Even if it was the bad guy roll or whatever it was Im stoked to see that SD had a successful first event.
I'm proud of my team for sticking through the event and fighting past all the skepticism. I was so stoked about everything and driving for so many guests that I passed out at 8pm...Kinda had too cause I was up for two days in prep of the event...My whole team was there in one way shape or form adn I even had one ballsy hachi Roku driver come up and tell me straight up he wanted a Team Sticker...whoa!! Now thats the SD I wanna see...Cyrus, if your out there much respect bro!! MUCH!!

Dan Let's see whats in plan for next month. Sign me Up I cant seem to get away from work!!! help???

Great Event and You name it and Team Hinga will be there!!
P.S. if the vehicles are parked in the pits make sure they are no kidding utility type vehicles and have them moved outta the way if they aren't prior to the event. Like make a flyer that is given up at the registration table. No flyer for the dash or window then no parking in the pits. If they appear to be just anyones then boot them!!

Booney
Team Hinga S.D.
Captain

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I must say, AWESOME event Dan! and the rest of his crew for flagging and working ALL day long so we Drifters' can have a great time.
The tracks were very well defined, seat time was great! Weather was great! Tire eating sucked! Bring lots of tires for lots of fun!

Anyone with pics or vid. yet?

Thank you. We will have a 13 minute video and countless pictures up later today in the drift circuit gallery on www.driftcircuit.org

We are going to have to set you up with a tuiso challenge with driving skills like yours.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

YES!!! Thank God for Sunday events! I work every saturday and barely managed to get this one off. That previous post was all constructive criticism, i'd like to say that your event blew drift day out of the water. The courses were very technical and fun, there was an insane amount of run time, the staff was all super friendly, and, hell, its only 20 minutes from my house! Take that, Fontana! Thanks a lot for putting on a great event, and giving San Diego drifters a place to shine.


Thank God and the Aztecs Vs. New Mexico game.
I am flattered, to my knowledge Drift day is the best around much respect because they are on #28, it aint easy.

The staff is friendly because they are drifters like you, they are empowered by the smell of your burning rubber.

Any suggestions on the next event layout? we have our choice of ANY quadrant in the giant Q lot.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

that event was freakin sweet, run time was insane. WELL organized for your first drift event. i would have to say that i got more run time in drift circuit than i did in any drift day. just need to try to control the spectators, i kno its tuff. but they kinda get in the way. pit roadways are floaded with their asses standing around, and their damn cars taking pit spots.anyway i would gladly keep supporting drift circuit. but i need some fucking tires

Thank you. I knew from communicating with you guys that run time is the #1 thing so thats what we gave you. Of course the price we pay for more runs is in the tires.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

awsome event!!! My crew and I had a great time and wewill be at the next one. By the way, where are all the pictures? i saw tons of people taking pics and video. so where is it all?

VRT MiKe
VRT Cali
Team hinga

domo arigato

I have 4 CD's worth of video and images. I was up til 3:30am editing video. I have seen it a thousand times while editing, and when I keep showing it to people that come through the office this morning it still gives me goose bumps. We are uploading to the gallery today.

I can't keep getting this amped about drifting! We only have a monthly event. I am sure we all need that much time to buy more tires...right? Or should we do this every week? J/K I am so ha-shi-li-ya

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Hah! Thought none of you would find me here, huh!?
Well dan, your crew did a phenomenal job and I'm glad I had a part in your event. Even if it was the bad guy roll or whatever it was Im stoked to see that SD had a successful first event.
I'm proud of my team for sticking through the event and fighting past all the skepticism. I was so stoked about everything and driving for so many guests that I passed out at 8pm...Kinda had too cause I was up for two days in prep of the event...My whole team was there in one way shape or form adn I even had one ballsy hachi Roku driver come up and tell me straight up he wanted a Team Sticker...whoa!! Now thats the SD I wanna see...Cyrus, if your out there much respect bro!! MUCH!!

Dan Let's see whats in plan for next month. Sign me Up I cant seem to get away from work!!! help???

Great Event and You name it and Team Hinga will be there!!
P.S. if the vehicles are parked in the pits make sure they are no kidding utility type vehicles and have them moved outta the way if they aren't prior to the event. Like make a flyer that is given up at the registration table. No flyer for the dash or window then no parking in the pits. If they appear to be just anyones then boot them!!

Booney
Team Hinga S.D.
Captain

Welcome Booney, looks like you won't need any haterade here. You are a good guy for helping boot out sponges! Big thanks to hinga for all the support. I could see you picking up trash in the pits when I was picking up rocks on the track. No one asked you to do it, but it is noticed and appreciated my me and the volunteer staff. That is the type of thing that made my Japanese guests change their perspective about Americans. Good idea on the parking pass.

[meatish]

Yeah, I second that about the parking pass.. This happens a lot at drift days too, you roll back in from your runs and some idiot in a '89 civic is double parked in your spot, blasting techno music and you cant get to your floor jack. Also, there is a concern for people jacking my stuff while i'm out, so keeping non-driver's cars out of the pit area would help that a lot. If you had a 'pit' area, as well, then you could have a sort of 'car show' effect going on, something a little extra for the spectators who have never seen drift cars or curious about our setups, etc.
As for the course setup next time, i think it worked out awesome with one small, technical 2nd gear course, one course with a huge 3rd/4th (for those of us w/ shorter diffs) and little switchbacks at the end, and then small courses for warming up and new people. Although, one thing i think would be cool is if you turned the skidpad area into one donut area (this a necessity, if it is your first time) and one smaller course, maybe just a 2nd gear switchback s-drift thing or one big square block course. There isnt really a need for 2 skidpad-style courses (donut and fig.8).. this would keep the people who are on the 'skidpad' group entertained for the hour, and let the new guys still get a hang of donuts.

[IchigoMae]

Howbout do a gymkhana style course. You would be making A LOT of use of a small area. mebbe ditch the circle thing, cuz the figure 8 is almost the same. u can try squeezing the gymkhana somewhere there. heres an example taken from ziptied.com
http://www.vosko.net/media/vrtelektrique/s13gymkhana.wmv

[ghambino]

Dan, I'm so glad the event went great. All the drivers were awesome, when I had to tell guys to go run with their assigned groups they politely agreed and left. Yep this is Gambel(tall skinny black guy) that was staging/picking up cones on course one. Thanks to all the drivers for showing their appreciation to the volunteers. Next event will be my very first track event and I can't wait.

Hey IchigoMae, that porta-potty in the course worked out great for me while picking up cones. Had to use that thing like three times and I did'nt even drink that much. Probably had something to do with cars constantly drifting by me and spinning out like ten feet away from me.

[Omega47]

Hey i went to Drift Circuit that day,its great not much i can think of changing,jus better spectator arrangments,i was standing there adn kept gettin nagegd to get behind the fence,so that and the area of getting some food and refreshments stands going if possible. Also where the sqaure and the circle sit ims ure you can use that for a bigger course,hairpins maybe. But thanks again Dan, this event has been needed for a long time. :bowdown:

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Howbout do a gymkhana style course. You would be making A LOT of use of a small area. mebbe ditch the circle thing, cuz the figure 8 is almost the same. u can try squeezing the gymkhana somewhere there. heres an example taken from ziptied.com
http://www.vosko.net/media/vrtelektrique/s13gymkhana.wmv

We can definitely do a gymkhana course in place of the circle and the 8. Great video example. It takes a lot of skill and quick steering to plot a course like that correctly without screwing up. Good challenge for the more advanced, and beginners can still practice doughnuts and 8's on the gymkhana course. Thanks for the input.

Yes you can take a s**t on the inside of just about any turn:) but the question is would you want to?

By the way did anyone notice that Quoc is the man?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Dan, I'm so glad the event went great. All the drivers were awesome, when I had to tell guys to go run with their assigned groups they politely agreed and left. Yep this is Gambel(tall skinny black guy) that was staging/picking up cones on course one. Thanks to all the drivers for showing their appreciation to the volunteers. Next event will be my very first track event and I can't wait.

Hey IchigoMae, that porta-potty in the course worked out great for me while picking up cones. Had to use that thing like three times and I did'nt even drink that much. Probably had something to do with cars constantly drifting by me and spinning out like ten feet away from me.

You are a brave guy working it all day for the sake of the drifting community. Can't wait to see you in your ride tearing it up next time.

-Dan (Skinny white guy with double bags under my eyes)

funny, who was it that offered me caffeine pills that day? My response was "no man, I'm amped on THIS (motioning across the courses)" Did I look that bad?

ichigo, where was the drit course?

[DC Dan MAX USA]

http://www.driftcircuit.org/gallery.htm

13 minutes of video and 400 pictures

[theicecreamdan]

Gambell not drinking much? Hhahaha, you should see that guy party.

Man I'm so bummed that I couldn't be in town for this event, I seriously considered flying down for the weekend to try and drift, but I just couldn't get the money together to do it. keep up the events and I will for sure make it there when I get back to San Diego.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

We will keep it going every month for as long as you all are out there participating.

[ghambino]

Gambell not drinking much? Hhahaha, you should see that guy party.

Man I'm so bummed that I couldn't be in town for this event, I seriously considered flying down for the weekend to try and drift, but I just couldn't get the money together to do it. keep up the events and I will for sure make it there when I get back to San Diego.

Danboro, you have to come down for the Oct. event. I just bought an open diff to weld and I have a new subframe and spacers going on this weekend. Choose your tires wisely, the Q is very rough, but it will be well worth it.

Man thats a lot of pictures, I still have not seen all of them yet.

[meatish]

Er. How do you get to the pictures? I cant access them from the gallery section. Or just post everything you have of this POS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/meatish/white240driftday26.jpg

[DC Dan MAX USA]

go to http://www.driftcircuit.org/gallery.htm and just click on the first picture which leads you to http://www.driftcircuit.org/gallery2/picsr/picsr1.htm and click on a thumbnail like http://www.driftcircuit.org/gallery2/picsr/IMG_2154.htm this one of your car.

[IchigoMae]

that video i posted takes place somewhere in japan.

oh just a suggestion that i thot up of to speed up the process of registration. since i kno setting up the registration booth takes a while, mebbe try to pass out the techinspection sheets right off the bat. so during that time while setting up the register booth and track, tech inspectors can start teching cars. then as soon as the register booth is up, people are ready to turn in everything, tech sheets, wavers etc. as opposed to having a stampede of registrants trying to get so much done at one time.

[Spdrules5]

http://www.driftcircuit.org/gallery.htm

13 minutes of video and 400 pictures

Thanks again Dan! And to all the photographers out there. I've never had so many pictures of my car taken before. Awesome pics to all the photographers!

I definitely wear the DriftCircuit window sticker with honor!

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Cool thing is the only guys sporting a sticker on their car that says DRIFT CIRCUIT are real drifters who had the huevos to shread rubber in front of everyone in DC #1

[DC Dan MAX USA]

For those of you in the video and in the pictures, you are infamous now. For those of you who didn't get a shot posted, sorry it was not my footage or pictures. Anyone is welcome to submit photos/footage of DC1 for posting in the www.driftcircuit.org gallery. We will give you recognition for your images.

[meatish]

Great pics, guys. I'll have to get to know some of your names and faces at the next event.. my name's Tyler, and my car will be one color next time so come up and say hi; i'm from El Cajon but don't worry, I wont stab you.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

that video i posted takes place somewhere in japan.

oh just a suggestion that i thot up of to speed up the process of registration. since i kno setting up the registration booth takes a while, mebbe try to pass out the techinspection sheets right off the bat. so during that time while setting up the register booth and track, tech inspectors can start teching cars. then as soon as the register booth is up, people are ready to turn in everything, tech sheets, wavers etc. as opposed to having a stampede of registrants trying to get so much done at one time.

Thanks for the ideas, We can do it faster next time, I'll distribute the forms more effeciently so they can be presented to the registration processor at once. The actual tech inspect went really fast with a huge lineup of cars getting teched at once last time.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Great pics, guys. I'll have to get to know some of your names and faces at the next event.. my name's Tyler, and my car will be one color next time so come up and say hi; i'm from El Cajon but don't worry, I wont stab you.

I'm only worried about the guys from hillcrest doing the stabbing.

[meatish]

Yeah but they all drive Saab's, so we can keep a look out.

[LukeDogg316]

Somebodys gotta make use the song "sittin Sidewayz" by Paul Wall for the next drift video please!!!!!!

[theicecreamdan]

I'm only worried about the guys from hillcrest doing the stabbing.

I'd be worried about attending one of these events if there is any hillcrest stabbings there.

[knightrider]

well heres some video i took from the day, its only a couple ppl, cuz i dont care about the rest of you, haha. maybe next month i will take lots more video, cuz my car wont be running by then, enjoy
sorry for the split clips, i dont have hosting, and free ones only allow 10mb per clip
North Course
Scott(RBS14)-Jason(S15driftdreamer)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 1 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-1)
Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Scott(RBS14)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 2 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-2)

South Course
Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Scott(RBS14)-Quoc
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 3 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-3)
Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Scott(RBS14)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 4 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-4)
Scott(RBS14)-Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Jason(S15driftdreamer)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 5 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-5)
Scott(RBS14)-Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Scott(RBS14)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 6 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-6)
Warren G(Sideways_In_SD)-Jason(S15driftdreamer)-Scott(RBS14)
Click here to watch Drift Circuit 9-10 7 (http://media.putfile.com/DC9-10-7)

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Somebodys gotta make use the song "sittin Sidewayz" by Paul Wall for the next drift video please!!!!!!

Agreed. Thats exactly what I thought when I heard it. Something is wrong when a white boy has a disco ball in his grill though.

everyone check out these straight up professional pix here...
http://www.everythingdrift.com/ImageGallery/gallery/driftcircuit01sep2005

[borohingacoupe]

So any news on the next event? Track layout, time table etc.

[kognition]

Or how about "Drifter" by Souxie & the Banshies?

Somebodys gotta make use the song "sittin Sidewayz" by Paul Wall for the next drift video please!!!!!!

[zads]

So any news on the next event? Track layout, time table etc.

Oct 23rd is the next San Diego event. I know its not going to be at Qualcomm, I forgot where its supposed to be though.

[borohingacoupe]

Oct 23rd is the next San Diego event. I know its not going to be at Qualcomm, I forgot where its supposed to be though.

Not at Qualcomm? Huh. I wish they would update their site. It's two weeks away, kinda need to know whats going on.

Matt

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I am still negotiating with the coors ampitheatre. Sorry for the delays, it is a hard sell to get someone to let a group of drifters burn rubber all over their property. The (revised) Qualcomm permit only materialized 2 days before that event. I just don't want to make any announcements/promises that are not solid so when there is news you will see it even if it is right before the event.

[borohingacoupe]

I am still negotiating with the coors ampitheatre. Sorry for the delays, it is a hard sell to get someone to let a group of drifters burn rubber all over their property. The (revised) Qualcomm permit only materialized 2 days before that event. I just don't want to make any announcements/promises that are not solid so when there is news you will see it even if it is right before the event.

Cool, just wondering how things are progressing. See you at the next event, where ever it is!

Matt

[Chasmoore04]

They do it weekly in norcal :rolleyes:

[RBS14]

Every other week. The track is always the same, and every turn is banked. You learn some very useful skills there, but if that's where you started (like many NCDA guys), you're gonna take a little while to adapt to a flat track.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Check out the news on the front page of driftcircuit.org, let me know if you have questions/suggestions.

[LukeDogg316]

any update on the next event?

[revat619]

Its been postponed indefinitely. After talks with Qualcomm, we can only use the stadium lot during the off season. They're currently in talks with Coors Ampitheater and last i heard, things were going pretty good. No dates yet though.