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grudge
08-15-2005, 01:29 PM
what's your ideal wheel/tire size/setup for open track at streets of willow and buttonwillow? i was assuming my 18's are just too big. i figure 16's or 17's should be a better wheel/tire size to go with. but i still wanna figure out what overall specs are preferred with wheel and tires sizes. :rawk:
revat619
08-15-2005, 01:53 PM
is this for grip or drift?
grudge
08-15-2005, 01:56 PM
is this for grip or drift?
grip. :rawk:
Flybert
08-15-2005, 02:19 PM
It all depends on what car you have, what kind of fenders or fenderwork you've done or are willing to do, what kind of camber you can run, your suspension setup, your driving skill, and what kind of money you have to spend.
Try specifying some of this stuff and we might be able to help you out. Here's a tip for you. If you are all about HPDE stuff, you should build your car around the tire setup that you'd like to run. It will pay off in the long run.
grudge
08-15-2005, 03:37 PM
It all depends on what car you have, what kind of fenders or fenderwork you've done or are willing to do, what kind of camber you can run, your suspension setup, your driving skill, and what kind of money you have to spend.
Try specifying some of this stuff and we might be able to help you out. Here's a tip for you. If you are all about HPDE stuff, you should build your car around the tire setup that you'd like to run. It will pay off in the long run.
i was curoius too see what everyone else is running on their 240's. and what their "ideal" setup would be. :rawk:
KwKouki
08-15-2005, 07:32 PM
I think tire setup should relate to the amount of HP you are running.
For my cars current state *stock engine, K&N drop in filter, upgraded suspension) I would feel comfy with a set of 16x8s with a 225 profile tire.
turtl631
08-15-2005, 09:24 PM
Tire size doesn't do a whole lot for straightline grip, so power doesn't really affect it unless you have a lead foot and smoke your tires at every corner exit. Wider tires give a marginal increase in cornering grip, but after a point wider tires are counterproductive becuase you can't get them hot enough to work well. Compound is more important than size, but 17x8 or 8.5 with 235/40/17 front and 17x9 or 9.5 with 255/40/17 rear is a pretty common s chassis tire setup for HPDEs. Going wider than 255s is likely unnecessary. For autoX things are different, but autoX is kinda strange in general regarding setups.
thx247
08-15-2005, 09:52 PM
I dunno, I saw some 255's make 1.5g peak at the track. Sounds good to me!
You don't list your car mods or power or anything, so its hard to say what would be a good place to start for you. I'd run a smaller tire for better acceleration, and make the car as light as I could while at the track. And tire size does make a difference for straight line grip, if its not about putting power down, its about slowing the car down. Large wide tires work well when braking.
grudge
08-15-2005, 10:23 PM
I dunno, I saw some 255's make 1.5g peak at the track. Sounds good to me!
You don't list your car mods or power or anything, so its hard to say what would be a good place to start for you. I'd run a smaller tire for better acceleration, and make the car as light as I could while at the track. And tire size does make a difference for straight line grip, if its not about putting power down, its about slowing the car down. Large wide tires work well when braking.
mods: 95 240, fmax stage II, act street clutch, m/r coilovers, whiteline f/r sways, brembo cross drilled rotors, porterfield pads, i think thats it... hope this helps. :rawk:
wootwoot
08-15-2005, 11:38 PM
CCW or Forgeline in 16x8+15 front and maybe 16x8+10 rear with Hoosiers. But thats for a s13. For a s14 I would do the same size but with offsets better suited for it.
thx247
08-16-2005, 02:15 AM
Since its a stock motor, I'd go with 15's as wide as I could make them. Use sway bars to balance the car after you get the rubber. If you have no plans to put a big motor in, then you don't need big brakes, and you don't need tall tires.
I'm guessing you are just as broke as any other 240 owner, so I don't expect you to be running DOT R tires. Find a street tire that fits your size and is affordable to you. If you can afford race rubber, then find a tire that fits, and order some light wheels to go with the rubber.
CCW's and Hoosiers would be nice, but if he knew enough to run those he probably wouldn't be asking in the first place.
grudge
08-16-2005, 07:40 AM
Tire size doesn't do a whole lot for straightline grip, so power doesn't really affect it unless you have a lead foot and smoke your tires at every corner exit. Wider tires give a marginal increase in cornering grip, but after a point wider tires are counterproductive becuase you can't get them hot enough to work well. Compound is more important than size, but 17x8 or 8.5 with 235/40/17 front and 17x9 or 9.5 with 255/40/17 rear is a pretty common s chassis tire setup for HPDEs. Going wider than 255s is likely unnecessary. For autoX things are different, but autoX is kinda strange in general regarding setups.
now this is exactly what i was expecting but just wanted to wait and see.. :rawk:
wootwoot
08-16-2005, 09:43 AM
Since its a stock motor, I'd go with 15's as wide as I could make them. Use sway bars to balance the car after you get the rubber. If you have no plans to put a big motor in, then you don't need big brakes, and you don't need tall tires.
I'm guessing you are just as broke as any other 240 owner, so I don't expect you to be running DOT R tires. Find a street tire that fits your size and is affordable to you. If you can afford race rubber, then find a tire that fits, and order some light wheels to go with the rubber.
CCW's and Hoosiers would be nice, but if he knew enough to run those he probably wouldn't be asking in the first place.
Hey, all he asked for was ideal =)
For budget track I would say probably 5zigens or whatever used wheel that you can get ahold of that is decently light and sized. For tires I would use Kumho MX's. They run 110 bucks for 225/50R16, last a good bit, and are pretty damn sticky.
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