help a young tuner with engine swap

[speed racer]

i just got my dream car 1996 240sx se it bone stock but i have big plans for it.but i dont know if i should change the internals on my stock 2.4 engine or go for the swap sr20det. some of my worries that if i change all my internals will i have problems down the road with the block....? and will i be able 2 get 450+hp with turbo out of my stock block with no problems....? any one who can help......

[aznpoopy]

450hp out of a stock ka24de. no.
450hp out of a built ka24de-t. yes.

450hp out of a stock sr20det. no.
450hp out of a built sr20det. yes.

by buying a 240sx you are pretty much guaranteed to have 'problems down the road', whether you modify it or not.

my advice is to buy a FSM, invest in tools, and start with maintenance on the car.

[SR240DET]

450hp out of a stock ka24de. no.
450hp out of a built ka24de. yes.

450hp out of a stock sr20det. no.
450hp out of a built sr20det. yes.

by buying a 240sx you are pretty much guaranteed to have 'problems down the road', whether you modify it or not.

my advice is to buy a FSM, invest in tools, and start with maintenance on the car.

finally... somebody who knows that both engines are equal..... sorry... lots of "is better than" for a long while on this forum...

basicly kid... aznpoopy said it right... learn how to work on your car... before you decide to make "big plans"...

[speed racer]

im new 2 the 240sx sceen what the diffince between a ka24de and a sr20det........?

[eyustfu]

just use the search function and you'll find all the information you need to know

[ka24det-power]

I have both a KA24DET and now a SR20DET. IMO the SR is the way to go.

For the price of a Turbo kit you can have a swap in your car that will run a lot nicer.

The KA24DET route requires fabrication and sometimes it can be hard to find performance parts. Internals are more expensive, harder to find, and the fact is the KA was not designed for boost. I have friends with very nice KA24DET's but for the price and headache IMO it is not worth the outcome.

In Japan they have been building SR's for over a 10 years the knowledge and developement of products for the SR is unmatched in the 240 world.

Don't get me wrong I really liked my KA but I love my SR.

I am going for 400 rwhp at 19psi on Sunday so lets keep our fingers crossed.

[The Hamsterball]

450hp out of a stock ka24de. no.
450hp out of a built ka24de. yes.

450hp out of a stock sr20det. no.
450hp out of a built sr20det. yes.

by buying a 240sx you are pretty much guaranteed to have 'problems down the road', whether you modify it or not.

my advice is to buy a FSM, invest in tools, and start with maintenance on the car.

*ding *ding *ding, we have a winner.

I say, to make it easier on yourself, do the 100 mile test.

Then do the 500 mile test. Then do the 1,000 mile test.

After that, do the 3,000 mile test.

That means, drive it for 3000 miles, and see what comes up before kicking yourself in the head for putting something like springs/shocks on your car if you have a timing chain rattle when your timing chain guides have already been removed, or a similar problem.
(I myself have MORE repairs on my 240SX than aftermarket mods, but I have a devilish bad luck S13 which isn't like any other S13 you've seen, so you might not have it as bad)

Good luck!

[speed racer]

what do you suggest is the best way 2 lern 2 fix your own car.....?

[aznpoopy]

here's a plan:

buy or download a FSM (factory service manual)

-the FSM has a 'basic maintenance' section.
-every weekend, do one of those basic maintenace items (changing the oil, coolant flush, changing belts, etc.)
-note you will need to invest in parts, tools, and misc stuff to get jobs done
-as problems crop up, fix them. and trust me... you WILL have problems (that's what the FSM is for)
-after you've owned the car a few months, you should start to get a feel for what you should be doing next.

[speed racer]

that sound like a good idea the guy who sold it 2 me told me he had done some thing 2 the internals my guess is he rebuild it it has 180,000mil and it runs great what do you think...?

[aznpoopy]

do a compression test

then you'll have a good idea how healthy your engine is.

[kandyflip445]

The engine isn't the only thing that will need attention. The suspension/body should be looked over too. Bushings, alignment, rust, all that kind of stuff too.

[Yoshi]

450hp out of a built ka24de. yes.


I call SHINANIGANS on that! LOL! :p :mephfawk:
u not gettin that fo-fiddy w/o the T LOL!

[aznpoopy]

I call SHINANIGANS on that! LOL! :p :mephfawk:
u not gettin that fo-fiddy w/o the T LOL!

lmao...

450hp out of a built ka24de-t. yes.

fixed. :Ownedd:

[SR240DET]

I have both a KA24DET and now a SR20DET. IMO the SR is the way to go.

For the price of a Turbo kit you can have a swap in your car that will run a lot nicer.

The KA24DET route requires fabrication and sometimes it can be hard to find performance parts. Internals are more expensive, harder to find, and the fact is the KA was not designed for boost. I have friends with very nice KA24DET's but for the price and headache IMO it is not worth the outcome.

In Japan they have been building SR's for over a 10 years the knowledge and developement of products for the SR is unmatched in the 240 world.

Don't get me wrong I really liked my KA but I love my SR.

I am going for 400 rwhp at 19psi on Sunday so lets keep our fingers crossed.

they been turboing L series engines since datsuns... ( L series is the... well... dad of the ka... the sohc and dohc ka head bolts right up to some 4 cylinder Lseries small blocks.. the KA is based off the L series)


the sr has its fair share of history as well.... so in "my opinion" i still think there both the same... i just had to add to that....

performance parts are about the same really.... there not hard to find for the ka... i mean a few sources have them but thats all thats really needed... the sr has a bigger following so i guess thats why it may seem that way.... just my opinion....

[Pank]

im new 2 the 240sx sceen what the diffince between a ka24de and a sr20det........?

kill me right now

[chlatboy]

I find both motors to be pretty much the same. One problem i would have with the KA motors would be the fact that most of them have around a good 50k over sr's.

[speed racer]

do a compression test

then you'll have a good idea how healthy your engine is. what should my compression be

[aznpoopy]

you will find such information in the FSM, young grasshopper

[speed racer]

you will find such information in the FSM, young grasshopper
thank you have been a big help

[IGSDann]

you will find such information in the FSM, young grasshopper

Yes, he is a young grasshopper. Only 16... Who's buying the SR20 or turbo part for your car young'n?

[Mervyn]

check out the 'Archive and FAQs' forum section.. theres plenty of information in there.

[speed racer]

i checked under my car and most of my bushings are almost gone there falling apart is there a bushing set that includes all the bushings for the bottom of my car and what the most used

[ucfz31s13]

i is there a bushing set that includes all the bushings for the bottom of my car and what the most used

no there is not.

once the bushings are worn in 95+ 240sx's, the car is essentially totalled.

make sure you don't let your insurance company know, because they will drop you in a heatbeat.

time to sell it to an unknowing owner and find one with more life left in the bushyings.

sorry.

[Revolver Ocelot]

^And if you believe that you have no buisness even owning that 240 you just bought or any car for that matter. But ill be the nice guy and take that "totaled" 240 off your hands for a reasonable price. :coolugh:

[ZK]

i checked under my car and most of my bushings are almost gone there falling apart is there a bushing set that includes all the bushings for the bottom of my car and what the most used

Not that I know of, but start by replacing the worn bushings, it will make a big difference. http://www.splparts.com has a lot of bushings and suspension bits. Also, http://www.pdm-racing.com/ has lots of bushings and suspension kits too.

[SochBAT]

i THINK Energy Suspension makes bushings for S14s, but im too lazy to check. FSM is your 240 bible, live it, learn it, use it. Alot of problems can be solved by jsut opening the book, n reading. Learn your car now, before you do anything as far as 'upgrading'

And im not used to seeing aznpoopy without his B&W ninja-samurai of death as his Avatar.

Change it back poopyman. actually, when i look at it now, i think its a colored version of the one you had before. Still, CHANGE IT :axe:

[projectRDM]

I usually try to avoid posts like this, but I'm at a loss here for comprehension, so here's my take on this. Your post reads as follows:

"i just got my dream car 1996 240sx se it bone stock but i have big plans for it.but i dont know if i should change the internals on my stock 2.4 engine or go for the swap sr20det. some of my worries that if i change all my internals will i have problems down the road with the block....? and will i be able 2 get 450+hp with turbo out of my stock block with no problems....? any one who can help......"


You've just purchased your dream car, congratulations. Now put down the issue of ImPoRt TuNeR, wipe the spew off yourself, and pay attention.
If the car is your 'dream car', why do you not even know what the engine code is? I bought my first 240 in 1995, but I already knew everything about it long before then. I'd say some forum members (the intelligent 4%) would also agree that if you've actually dreamed of owning this car you'd have a clue about it. You don't, so I call BS on that. If your dream is inspired by cool pictures in magazines that you jack off to in the bathroom and the 240 was the main one that caught your eye then say so. No need to impress anyone here, you're new, uneducated, and so far ignorant as hell.
Now, you're 16 yrs old. That's a strike two, because you've just gotten behind the wheel of a RWD car and have about as much driver training as a chickpea. Your main goal here is to achieve 450whp, that's strike three, because not only are you young and ignorant but now you've proven to be dangerous, you're going to surely kill yourself and possibly other people with that kind of power. 450whp in a 240SX is simply too much for any kind of regular driving, and even a lot for most sporting events. You don't seem interested in any of that or you would have thrown in suspension and braking concerns, so we'll assume you just want to impress the kids at your school. That's stupid.

Buy an FSM, study it and learn the car. Replace everything that needs it first to get it back to it's OE condition. That means tension rod bushings, tie rod ends, the front crank seal, rear main seal, the massive leak you surely have around the oilpan, bleed the brakes, check for seized calipers and untrue/warped rotors, all the things the car is definitely in need of. And believe me it needs all that and more. Then do a compression test, change the oil, etc and get a feel for the car in it's like new condition. Then go drive it, for a year, under careful conditions, not like an idiot that you kids seem to be behind the wheel of any car. Sign up for a few driving classes, learn car control, get with your local SCCA and do some closed course driving. Then hook up with one of the members here or locally to you that's a skilled driver and has 275-300whp and go for a ride. Then come back and tell us if you feel competent enough to handle your goal of 450whp.

If you think that's harsh, then go ahead with your plan. No one will care when you wrap it around a tree and kill yourself.

[speed racer]

yo you said it im 16 but my car is a long project it not like im gana swap and turbo it tomorrow it gana take me a wihle 450hp is my goal and yeah suspension breaking is also on my list so dont be surprised when you get smoked by this 16yr old :fawkd:

[mjjstang]

i just got my dream car 1996 240sx se

I have to admit I chuckled when I started reading this.


and try saving money it makes u feel really good, I just started saving. makes me feel better then when I got my new turbo in the mail.

A CAR IS A POINTLESS MONEY PIT.

[Dousan_PG]

haha this is funny shit
fuck off
smoked by a 16 year old
sure it can happenned

smoked by you? haha..yeah right. dreamer.

[chlatboy]

You said that it is a project that will take time. And yet you are still going to be 16 when you beat him huh? U gotta time machine we dont know about??

[SochBAT]

Are you the guy with the car that revs up to 8000k?

Dude, that'd be sweet.

LEARN YOUR CAR!!!! THEN tinker with crap.


Did you know that S14s have headlight fluid? :wiggle:

[007jpang]

aznpoopy said it right... learn how to work on your car... before you decide to make "big plans"...


fo sho...

the reason i work on my own car is because i don't trust anyone but myself... and also im a broke as nigga.

[broken_s13]

fo sho...

the reason i work on my own car is because i don't trust anyone but myself... and also im a broke as nigga.

I agree, learn to work on your car. That way when shit happens you can fix it instead of taking it to a shop and having them tear you a new ass hole. Also when you work on your car its YOUR WORK, not your mommy and daddys money's work.

[007jpang]

yo you said it im 16 but my car is a long project it not like im gana swap and turbo it tomorrow it gana take me a wihle 450hp is my goal and yeah suspension breaking is also on my list so dont be surprised when you get smoked by this 16yr old :fawkd:


in terms of the car i would work on the suspension first ... then brakes... and then the engine... b/c

weak suspension= car going out of control= crash
weak brakes= can't stop= crash

but either way... with 450hp...no matter how good your car handle... you can still crash...if the driver can't handle.

then again people will crash sooner or later in motorsports.

[!Zar!]

Come on what do you plan on doing with 450+ hp? Slow down and think reasonable like 250. That's enough to plant you in your seat and to beat most cars out there. Now put down the mag and get in touch with reality.

[sub_version]

yo you said it im 16 but my car is a long project it not like im gana swap and turbo it tomorrow it gana take me a wihle 450hp is my goal and yeah suspension breaking is also on my list so dont be surprised when you get smoked by this 16yr old :fawkd:

Idiot... You make me want to kill myself. Go back to school and enroll in some remedial english classes.

[m0rex]

Drive your car for a good 4000 miles. Then come back to zilvia.net.

[mixxamike]

^^^hahalol...first post is a flame! i think sub_versions has joined the right forum. *shakes head*

[the head]

450 in a 240 is more than you can handle

Back in HS I had a 94 trans am it was about 3500-3800 lbs and was about 260-275 at the wheels (auto) That car was a lot for me to handle when i first started driving and it took me a year or so going to auto x to really keep constant control of the car.

I sold it and bought a 99 WS-6 trans am which has more hp in roughly the same curb weight. It was esentially the same car so adapting to it was not very difficult.

Currently my daily driver is an 04 SL55 AMG while the same curb weight it puts down 493hp and over 500ft/lbs of torque and it is beyond starteling when you hit the loud pedal if you punch it below 50 the tires break loose.

now take a car that weighs signifigantly less and throw 450 in it you will kill yourself at your age with a car like that I know because i have seen it happen over and over again. Learn your car, it takes time to do but it is worth it in the long run. After you spend a year or so working on the car and getting the feel for how it handles then you should look into performance, even at that though look at suspension and brakes first. Don't ebay your parts remember you dont want to cut corners on things that protect your ass.

[sub_version]

^^^hahalol...first post is a flame! i think sub_versions has joined the right forum. *shakes head*

I dont like posting, but this guy... wow :ghey:

[speed racer]

Come on what do you plan on doing with 450+ hp? Slow down and think reasonable like 250. That's enough to plant you in your seat and to beat most cars out there. Now put down the mag and get in touch with reality.
ok have you ever been to miami we dont ride civic well some do and even those are packing mad hp it not so easy to keep up with 450hp evos and rx7 supras down here we drift auto x but when it comes down to it if your on the freeway and you get smoke by a evo or one of these sleeper civic your not gana go home with a smile your gana want more hp so sorry to break it to 250 aint gana cut it on the street

[Yoshi]

ok have you ever been to miami we dont ride civic well some do and even those are packing mad hp it not so easy to keep up with 450hp evos and rx7 supras down here we drift auto x but when it comes down to it if your on the freeway and you get smoke by a evo or one of these sleeper civic your not gana go home with a smile your gana want more hp so sorry to break it to 250 aint gana cut it on the street

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
OMG man. Seriously, above all this car stuff, stay the hell in school.... I'm pretty sure I knew what punctuation was, and how to use it in conversation, WELL before I was 16.

You're telling us that all your lil friends, with new licenses in hand are driving 450HP Evos? I call bullshit.... buy hey maybe I'm wrong... maybe all your friends are rich little punks with no respect for what it takes to earn a living, while I think that's a hugely wussy way to live... no one in such a situation would prolly be inclined to look a gift horse in the mouth, not in this country at least ;)

"down here we drift auto x"
ok, wtf is that? Was this buzzwords thrown together to give the appearance of having some automotive knowledge? So far all you've done is prove everyone right who is throwing u into the stereotype of being a punk kid who's too inexperienced yet to know shit about shit. I'm not saying that's who you are, but that's how you've making yourself look w/o help from anyone else.

Why is it there is such a shortage of true enthusiasts? When I was first learning, I made it a point to be humble. When you want to learn from someone(s), how much help you think you'll get by fronting and copping an attitude? When I started out, I pointed out in every post that I was a newbie, and was looking for guidance and advice. I came with my glass empty, ready to receive whatever knowlege I felt would help me... you come with your glass mostly full, despite the fact that what we'd add will sour the current concoction of inexperience, angst, and attitude.

If you truly wanted to learn, you'd be more humble.
... but it doesn't seem like that's what you really want.

From what you've posted so far, it seems that all you really want is to throw $ at something and beat everyone in streetracing (which is really lame to begin with). The good news is there IS a car just for you. Cheap compared to uber ferarris and such, it's called the Murcielago. Put your bankroll down, get insured, then begin destroying ppl.

Til you get to that point, you'd best learn to be nice, honest, and humble with people you're trying to glean advice from (wow! just like in real life!) instead of being an eThug.

/end newbie rant #001546

[sub_version]

speed racer...

http://heyzeus.org/images/uploads/bettlejuice_thumb.jpg

and his friend gary...

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/images/photos/garytheretard.jpg

they be tearin up da fr33wayZ in fLa y0!!1

[g2ic02]

StreetRacing is gay...You are the reason why my insurance is so damn high, and the cops pull me over every time I drive my car. Thank you.

[kandyflip445]

:lockd: I can feel it coming if the flames don't stop.

[SochBAT]

Obviously, if you drift auto x, you'd realize you DON'T NEED 450 HP!!!! Good luck winning first with that much HP in a fairly lightweight chassis buddy. Really, if you want 450hp, get something else, like a Geo Storm and do a powerplant swap. Drag is cool and all, but if you even have thoughts of drifting/auto x, as you say, you will realize that 200rwhp is good enuff.

And i'd like to see how a 16yearold handles 450hp. "Hey guys, wanna see how fast i can go in my car?" SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET, VROOM!!!! CRASH!!!!!
"oh, brakefade."
then your smirk asian friend would say "pwned"

OH, and if you still want 450hp, in terms of power/cost ratio, domestics are better.

IROC Camaro, El Caminos, Firebird, Chargers, all that good stuff.

I'm guessing but with about 6k, you could probably built up a 450rwhp domestic, as compared to a 450hp SR/KA. In the end, you'll still blow something up.

PS... You've reached 'Zilvian Enlightenment' :rl:

[projectRDM]

ok have you ever been to miami we dont ride civic well some do and even those are packing mad hp it not so easy to keep up with 450hp evos and rx7 supras down here we drift auto x but when it comes down to it if your on the freeway and you get smoke by a evo or one of these sleeper civic your not gana go home with a smile your gana want more hp so sorry to break it to 250 aint gana cut it on the street

And there you have it. You're doing all this to participate in something both highly illegal and violently dangerous, risking the lives of everyone driving on the expressway around you, just to be cool and 'go home with a smile'. You have won the stupidest fucking idiot of the decade award on that comment alone.

Should we write to your parents now and apologize for not pushing their son into using his peebrain and actually showing common sense, or wait until you die in a fiery crash taking the lives of a dozen innocent people with you?

"But Mr. and Mrs. xxxxxx, he was trying to go home with a smile, you know how serious the life of a hardcore illegal street racer can be. We're also sorry to the families of all the people who lost their lives because you couldn't raise your son not to be a fucking moron, but hey, I heard he may have won the race if he hadn't stuffed the car into a wall at 125mph."

[Yoshi]

And there you have it. You're doing all this to participate in something both highly illegal and violently dangerous, risking the lives of everyone driving on the expressway around you, just to be cool and 'go home with a smile'. You have won the stupidest fucking idiot of the decade award on that comment alone.

Should we write to your parents now and apologize for not pushing their son into using his peebrain and actually showing common sense, or wait until you die in a fiery crash taking the lives of a dozen innocent people with you?

"But Mr. and Mrs. xxxxxx, he was trying to go home with a smile, you know how serious the life of a hardcore illegal street racer can be. We're also sorry to the families of all the people who lost their lives because you couldn't raise your son not to be a fucking moron, but hey, I heard he may have won the race if he hadn't stuffed the car into a wall at 125mph."

LOL!!!! HAHAHA omg.
great... now people are staring at my laughter outburst and I almost had Sprite out my nose! Tween that laugh and the raise I got today, i'm just having a 5-star day :D

[SochBAT]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/soshit/1304T.jpg
You Win!!!!oneoneoneone!!!!1111!!!1!

You > The World.

You get this too!

Kandyflipp loves this, so i might make it a shirt, just for guys like you. :boink:
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[zenki240sx]

speed racer...

http://heyzeus.org/images/uploads/bettlejuice_thumb.jpg

and his friend gary...

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/images/photos/garytheretard.jpg

they be tearin up da fr33wayZ in fLa y0!!1

HAHAHA!!!l0l this is a very funny thread

[mjjstang]

ill admit 250 hp may not be enough but damn u speak no english

[kandyflip445]

"But Mr. and Mrs. xxxxxx, he was trying to go home with a smile, you know how serious the life of a hardcore illegal street racer can be. We're also sorry to the families of all the people who lost their lives because you couldn't raise your son not to be a fucking moron, but hey, I heard he may have won the race if he hadn't stuffed the car into a wall at 125mph."

He probably doesn't know how to make it go over 115mph. ;)

[moe240sx]

I dont get how he said he wants 450hp so he wont get smoked by these evos and rx7's, and he also drifts too...I am confused maybe another smart 16 year old can explain this all too me...

[JDMark]

hes just another dumbass highschool kid with unrealistic pipe dreams about cars. its all talk, who cares.
lmao at the word "tuner" btw :rofl:

[ranisron]

Who cares? just beacuse you are 16? you will realize how stupid you are once you are 23 and have gotten your license suspended (if you are still alive by then).

you don't need that much power to have fun. you are not showing to others how much hp you have, I assume you bought the car because you liked her.

Ron

[sideview_180sx]

yo you said it im 16 but my car is a long project it not like im gana swap and turbo it tomorrow it gana take me a wihle 450hp is my goal and yeah suspension breaking is also on my list so dont be surprised when you get smoked by this 16yr old :fawkd: :gives:

Along with that FSM, using the search button can teach you amazing things, also investing in some grammar instruction can be a big plus as well. No, you can't drive for shit, not unless you drive a shifter kart, which I highly doubt that, and if you did. A 240 most likely would not be your dream car neither.

Since you're in miami what gave you the idea a 240 would be able to handle a RX-7 and an EVO. Simply put get a civic, GS-R block, Full Race stage 3 turbo kit. smoke all those cars. then realize "damn i can't stop fast enough" stuff your car into something hard, die slowly. I'll snatch what's left of the turbo system. :aw:

Have your mangled corpse photographed and put online for us to say "pwned" :mephfawk: :mephfawk:

[speed racer]

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
OMG man. Seriously, above all this car stuff, stay the hell in school.... I'm pretty sure I knew what punctuation was, and how to use it in conversation, WELL before I was 16.

You're telling us that all your lil friends, with new licenses in hand are driving 450HP Evos? I call bullshit.... buy hey maybe I'm wrong... maybe all your friends are rich little punks with no respect for what it takes to earn a living, while I think that's a hugely wussy way to live... no one in such a situation would prolly be inclined to look a gift horse in the mouth, not in this country at least ;)

"down here we drift auto x"
ok, wtf is that? Was this buzzwords thrown together to give the appearance of having some automotive knowledge? So far all you've done is prove everyone right who is throwing u into the stereotype of being a punk kid who's too inexperienced yet to know shit about shit. I'm not saying that's who you are, but that's how you've making yourself look w/o help from anyone else.

Why is it there is such a shortage of true enthusiasts? When I was first learning, I made it a point to be humble. When you want to learn from someone(s), how much help you think you'll get by fronting and copping an attitude? When I started out, I pointed out in every post that I was a newbie, and was looking for guidance and advice. I came with my glass empty, ready to receive whatever knowlege I felt would help me... you come with your glass mostly full, despite the fact that what we'd add will sour the current concoction of inexperience, angst, and attitude.

If you truly wanted to learn, you'd be more humble.
... but it doesn't seem like that's what you really want.

From what you've posted so far, it seems that all you really want is to throw $ at something and beat everyone in streetracing (which is really lame to begin with). The good news is there IS a car just for you. Cheap compared to uber ferarris and such, it's called the Murcielago. Put your bankroll down, get insured, then begin destroying ppl.

Til you get to that point, you'd best learn to be nice, honest, and humble with people you're trying to glean advice from (wow! just like in real life!) instead of being an eThug.

/end newbie rant #001546
yo im far from a thug and sorry i didnt no i was in english class but your right street racing is dangerous my older brother lost one of his friend like that. but down here theres only one track and it never open if it was alot less ppl would be doing it on the street. maybe all you guy are right 450hp was a high # but hey you guy said it i dont no what im getting my self into that why i was asking Questions. humble i told you guys i didnt no shit about 240 i just got into them a while ago i was gana get a civic but i ran into a 240 so here i am im not a thug im not a hard ass and i do want to learn the last thing i wanted to do was come of as a dick :)

[sideview_180sx]

grammar bitch learn grammar!!!! you already dug a hole as an idiot who won't listen to those who have more experience then you. first things first, if you want to learn about engines, go to tech and read the fucking FAQ you TOOL. Afterwards spend the next month searching this site to learn more about what could happen to your car and how to fix it. Next search online once you have decided on your route of building your car, of what products to go with. No tein basics, nor super streets are good coilovers for your car.

[DrtyRat]

ok have you ever been to miami we dont ride civic well some do and even those are packing mad hp it not so easy to keep up with 450hp evos and rx7 supras down here we drift auto x but when it comes down to it if your on the freeway and you get smoke by a evo or one of these sleeper civic your not gana go home with a smile your gana want more hp so sorry to break it to 250 aint gana cut it on the street
Oh please let him be from miami, ohio :wtc: :wtc: :wtc: :wtc: :wtc:

[SochBAT]

on a serious note, these will help you out.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=62607
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=62609
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=66226 If you are really daring!

PS. Zilvian are dickheads, but they know their shit, sometimes.

Some even have clubs to join. Like the Anti-Makoto Club, or even the Anti-CorrectPostingSection Club. No dental benefits tho.

Next time, listen to The Power Rangers. They Pwn you.

[SR240DET]

the thread title gave everybody "the" warning that this dude was a lil punk... anybody who calls them selfs a tuner is a ricer anyways...

[CaoBoY]

Kid you got a long ways to go before you even become a good driver, yet a 'racer'. Just another punk ricer, with drams of a mad tyte DoriFto car, because its the 'cool' thing to do... :ghey:

[m0rex]

[/Thread] I dont see this thread going anywhere.

[broken_s13]

I love people like him. I can see it now.....One day ill be walking through a junkyard and stumble upon a 450hp 240(or in his case a SILVIA) Filled with Import Tuner mags, Boba cups and Initial D soundtracks. I dont really like flaming, but i also dont like newbies calling themself tuners and wanting to be faster than everyone on the street but dont even know how an oil filter works. OH yeah, make sure you change your headlight fluid before you do any of those late night touge runs with your 450 hp car. The last thing u want is crappy head light fluid.

[speed racer]

Oh please let him be from miami, ohio :wtc: :wtc: :wtc: :wtc: :wtc:
you from miami florida ?

[infinitexsound]

at 16 all i could think of was getting drunk and girls... hmmmmmm i wish i was 16 again

[chlatboy]

U think he jumped off the bandwagon yet??? :ughd:

[Tygma]

Shit, I hope so...

I feel like I lost half of my intelligence just by reading SpeedRacer's posts. Fuck.

[DrtyRat]

you from miami florida ?
NO WAY!!!!! How could I be I don't own a 450hp Evo, Rx7, or Supra!!
On a serious note...Just slow down w/your hopes and dreams. Spend alot of time looking through all of the pages in this forum(you could search, but sometimes you'll find more than you expect just by going page by page). Before I made my first post I had gone through over 250pgs in this forum just reading and learning, and guess what I still don't a fraction of what these guys know. One thing I do know is that unless your pretty far out there w/your ideas(and trust me your not on this one)it has been covered before. However, in the very unlikely instance that you come up w/an original idea, make a thread for it and you will get "good" (by zilvia's standards) feedback. Just don't take the way they say it to heart(BUT LISTEN TO WHAT IS SAID!) and you should be fine.
p.s. OK 450hp is still WAY TOO MUCH power!!!

[speed racer]

NO WAY!!!!! How could I be I don't own a 450hp Evo, Rx7, or Supra!!
On a serious note...Just slow down w/your hopes and dreams. Spend alot of time looking through all of the pages in this forum(you could search, but sometimes you'll find more than you expect just by going page by page). Before I made my first post I had gone through over 250pgs in this forum just reading and learning, and guess what I still don't a fraction of what these guys know. One thing I do know is that unless your pretty far out there w/your ideas(and trust me your not on this one)it has been covered before. However, in the very unlikely instance that you come up w/an original idea, make a thread for it and you will get "good" (by zilvia's standards) feedback. Just don't take the way they say it to heart(BUT LISTEN TO WHAT IS SAID!) and you should be fine.
p.s. OK 450hp is still WAY TOO MUCH power!!! thanks for the info im not going for 450hp anymore my goal for now is to learn as much as i can about 240s and learn how to work on my car before i decide to do any thing to it.

[DrtyRat]

thanks for the info im not going for 450hp anymore my goal for now is to learn as much as i can about 240s and learn how to work on my car before i decide to do any thing to it.
:eek2: ....I made a difference.... :eek2:

[420sx]

fuck a 240. buy an orange supra put graphics on it and when someone asks you who you are just say "Paul Walker my man"

[MakotoS13]

And The Russian Scores, [email protected]!!!one!!23!! !11!