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s0ldats
07-22-2005, 11:44 AM
facts:


8/6kg or 10/8kg spring rates
external shock reservoir
super slammy (super means super)
no dual height adjustability
40way adjustable


what are your guys opinions on the ddrug coilovers? there's a gb going on for them in the gb section.


http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84871
Dousan_PG
07-22-2005, 11:49 AM
how cna you get opinions when nearly no on ehas them
i think tougefactory commented them himself and seems pretty honest
id go w/ them if i wasnt getting KTS for the beater car..

too much adj thats all think.
justinhustle
07-22-2005, 11:50 AM
you heard it from the man with the 10k counter

if he dunno, noone does

ps you should just ask dave or call tf, theyre nice guys
240trainee
07-22-2005, 12:09 PM
I'm gonna get a set, I have heard nothing but good things about the touge factory guys, and They recommend them and are importing them. I think the coils look worth a shot, we'll see. I'm gonna make sure to take plenty of pics when I get them regarding build quality, fitment, etc. I don't plan on being dissapointed.
OMGWTFBBQ
07-22-2005, 12:31 PM
40 way adjustable is ridiculous, sounds ok beside that
infinitexsound
07-22-2005, 12:48 PM
yeah........... 40 way is the drawback anything other then that its good shizit
Maeda
07-22-2005, 12:50 PM
If i'm translating this right the DDrugs are good but KTS is better.

DDrug goes lower, but has stupid adjustablity.
KTS easier to adjust by hand(?) plus only 15 way.
KTS is 20000 yen cheaper.
Dorifuto Tengoku April 05
240trainee
07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
If i'm translating this right the DDrugs are good but KTS is better.

DDrug goes lower, but has stupid adjustablity.
KTS easier to adjust by hand(?) plus only 15 way.
KTS is 20000 yen cheaper.
Dorifuto Tengoku April 05


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. well, I'm gonna get the DDrugs and see whats up.
Var
07-22-2005, 02:09 PM
you cant say which one is better without a shock dyno and proof of reliability. Anything else is BS.
TokyoNights
07-22-2005, 02:24 PM
kts dont go low enough
I would pick these over kts
Buffalo Daughter
07-22-2005, 03:17 PM
How much are the KTS's? These DDrugs are priced nice.
Dousan_PG
07-22-2005, 04:32 PM
www.splparts.com
TurDz
07-22-2005, 05:35 PM
for the group buy theses are more expensive by only $14. Time to get some guinea pigs..
KiDyNomiTe
07-22-2005, 06:39 PM
They will be offering rebuild kits soon too for the D-Drugs so thats another positive.
Var
07-23-2005, 12:24 PM
kts dont go low enough
I would pick these over kts


Do you have any other information about these coils, or are you just basing your statement on ride height?
upSLIDEdown
07-23-2005, 12:45 PM
kts dont go low enough
I would pick these over kts

How low is low enough? I think this is perfect... Is that low enough?

Kookz's 'Jane' (http://pinkgodzira.com/index.php?set_albumName=album01&id=IMG_0002&option=com_gallery&Itemid=8&include=view_photo.php)

Bryan
Var
07-23-2005, 01:00 PM
How low is low enough? I think this is perfect... Is that low enough?

Kookz's 'Jane' (http://pinkgodzira.com/index.php?set_albumName=album01&id=IMG_0002&option=com_gallery&Itemid=8&include=view_photo.php)

Bryan


Seriously...that's why i was asking about any other info. It seems stupid to pick something cause of a lower drop if you dont know how the shocks are built.
TokyoNights
07-23-2005, 04:06 PM
Relax fo0s
My buddy has kts bottomed out and Im still over .5 in. lower
I like low, just my opinion read my quote it said "I".
s0ldats
07-24-2005, 03:08 AM
if i'm not mistaken, kookz modified the preload on the kts to get them that low.
Maeda
07-24-2005, 03:25 AM
you cant say which one is better without a shock dyno and proof of reliability. Anything else is BS.

I just am reading what I read in dorifto tight magazines...

They used a driving test as well as a shock dyno.
upSLIDEdown
07-24-2005, 09:09 AM
if i'm not mistaken, kookz modified the preload on the kts to get them that low.

No he didn't. He took out the 2 locking collars (1 for lower bracker, 1 for lower spring perch) and bottomed the lower bracket out against the spring perch. And I must say, it looks effing awesome!

Bryan
upSLIDEdown
07-24-2005, 09:10 AM
Relax fo0s
My buddy has kts bottomed out and Im still over .5 in. lower
I like low, just my opinion read my quote it said "I".

Are you lower than the car I posted above? ('Jane')
s0ldats
07-24-2005, 12:11 PM
No he didn't. He took out the 2 locking collars (1 for lower bracker, 1 for lower spring perch) and bottomed the lower bracket out against the spring perch. And I must say, it looks effing awesome!

Bryan


thanks for clearing that up. are there any side effects in doing what he did?
TokyoNights
07-24-2005, 03:54 PM
Are you lower than the car I posted above? ('Jane')
i dunno you tell me
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/607000-607999/607865_275_full.jpg
If i removed collars or messed with preload the se lip would be on the ground
upSLIDEdown
07-24-2005, 06:05 PM
i don't think you're any lower than 'Jane' but you're definitely just as low. You daily drive your shit? Looks good. KTS can go that low if you take out the collars, just personal preference I guess, thats all. These D Drug coils are low as shit, that's for sure.

Bryan
tew photy
07-24-2005, 06:41 PM
hows the nuts taste dude?

anyways, if youre basing the decision between KTS and DDrug solely on ride height, why would you get the KTS and remove the collars when you can just get the DDrug and be super slammed with the coils in stock form? are the KTS much better quality than the DDrug, making it worth the hassle?
420sx
07-24-2005, 06:55 PM
those are awsome coilovers. for a track car. awsome and quality im sure is great, no less than KTS
i dont see a point in getting ddrug if u daily drive your car. super slammed is great for track, on the shitty paved streets say "bye buy" to new oilpans
TokyoNights
07-24-2005, 07:40 PM
You daily drive your shit?
Bryan
I have a kouki s14 for daily driving
but still thrash the s13 3-4 days a week
ucfz31s13
07-26-2005, 09:12 AM
if i'm not mistaken, kookz modified the preload on the kts to get them that low.

well considering the ddrugs don't have bottom bracket adjustability, if you need to go ANY lower on them you have to preload.
s0ldats
07-26-2005, 01:16 PM
well considering the ddrugs don't have bottom bracket adjustability, if you need to go ANY lower on them you have to preload.


yeah, well considering the 10/8 rates, preload can't be all that bad, i mean, how much will the shock actually move up and down? i doubt you'll be bottoming out. not that much travel is needed.
sw20>>s14
07-26-2005, 05:29 PM
well considering the ddrugs don't have bottom bracket adjustability, if you need to go ANY lower on them you have to preload.

im about to order and the only con i can think of is if i want to go higher; not lower...being superoo slammed is not one of my priorities...other than that...these look very promising...i guess we'll be the first batch of guinea pigs...

also, i noticed that a lot of competent/expensive coilovers/brands dont offer the lower perch for adjustability...mainly circuit set ups...is there a reason for this? most drift oriented coilovers have it, but circuit ones tend to lower via preloading...can someone shine a little light on this subject? just curious, and the only reason i can come up with is that obviously when your drifting, you need more suspension travel...and when your on a circuit/touge, its tolerable to loose a little travel by lowering via preload...

well, these are short stroke so it doesnt really matter anyways...just worried about it being too low on the highest setting... :ughd: