ebay (ssautochrome) suspension kit

[chris-r]

was doing the ebay surf here at work and came across this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=7986331635 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42609&item=7986331635)

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Its a suspesion kit by "MOTORIA" it comes with

Traction Rod Set
Tension Rod Set
S13 - Rear Camber Arm SET
Rear Control Rod ( a.k.a Toe Rod SET)

all for about 377.95 B.I.N. price shipped
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I was wondering if anyone has purchased these and if there are any good? looking to buy all these parts and saw some of these on the forum. i mean there is a group buy for the "POWERTRIX" set for 599.00 shipped but just trying to see my options. thank you in advance...

[Ritz S14]

Your link = suck.

[chris-r]

hahah sorry here u go good link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42609&item=7986331635

[vinhisbored]

I'm not too sure, I know I've never heard of it before, but then again there are alot of good brands out there which are not known. The pieces look decent, and doesn't 'SEEM' to look like it'll crack on you, but it's really on you basically. I'm sure there should be a warranty on something like that. My friend purchased some unknown brand of tension rods on ebay, and they came with a lifetime warranty..

[uno]

I have a motoria 3"catback on my CA and everyone always asks where i got it and says my car sounds so awesome ? i didn't know they had any ties to ss autochrome

[BillKlineVT]

Yeah the ss auto chrome exhausts they sell on ebay are "motoria"... my friend has one. I believe they're based out of the phillipines, but I may be wrong on that one.

[originalsin]

http://www.motoria.co.kr/

u can click english up on the top bar

[ranisron]

korean company?

i have their exhaust... good stuffs... deep and loud = need new stereo systems.

[uno]

if the suspension is as good as the exhaust, go for it! :coolugh:

[ranisron]

people been saying that movable parts (esp. for turbos) from SSautocrome is no good...

[uno]

people been saying that movable parts (esp. for turbos) from SSautocrome is no good...
are we talking about ss autochrome?

[ranisron]

yeah...

i guess ssautocrome serves as a "distributor" for Motoria? something along the line?

[uno]

ok well i dunno. everything i search shows 2 independant companies, but it's hard to tell.

[Mike Wazowski]

Looks a lot like SPL Parts suspension bits.

[originalsin]

i emailed motoria, asking for a direct price list, liek from them, figure if they are good we can throw together a big order of stuff, they have alot of stuff it seems, liek the korean version of their page has more products then the english one

[JDMs13]

Buy that shit now! Looks real good. Price cant be beat. Prolly gonna pick up a package myself and sell what I have on my car right know (delubozparts).

[420sx]

I was wondering if anyone has purchased this cheap shit and does everyone else know it sucks? ...


here i fixed it for you. look, we even got a retorical question here! woa im good! :naughty:

[uno]

i emailed motoria, asking for a direct price list, liek from them, figure if they are good we can throw together a big order of stuff, they have alot of stuff it seems, liek the korean version of their page has more products then the english one
nice good idea

[aznpoopy]

the diagram is nearly identical to the one off the spl website... right down to the color coding.

Looks a lot like SPL Parts suspension bits.

extremely... almost identical actually.

[ranisron]

isn't the diagram from FSM, then photochop + add color? :dunno:

[chrisstroud]

Even if the product is quality, SSautochrome isn't going to provide quality support for it.

[aznpoopy]

Even if the product is quality, SSautochrome isn't going to provide quality support for it.

this is very true

[Mervyn]

i never heard of it

[TOMY]

i'm lovin this knock off stuff for our cars. Seriously, I do!

[ohnobigtdawg]

the exhuast i got from ssautochrome hits my tow hook.. i dunno if im the only person with this problem.. but im hating it.. from my point of view ssautochrome is crap.. i tried to email them about my problem of the tow hook.. and no answer.. good luck with the suspension components if you do get them.. and get ready to have no customer service if you do have a problem!

[BillKlineVT]

the exhuast i got from ssautochrome hits my tow hook.. i dunno if im the only person with this problem.. but im hating it.. from my point of view ssautochrome is crap.. i tried to email them about my problem of the tow hook.. and no answer.. good luck with the suspension components if you do get them.. and get ready to have no customer service if you do have a problem!
my friend's s14 ssauto "motoria" exhaust hits the tow hook or something right near there too... nothin a lil bit of hammering cant fix, haha.

[JDMark]

the exhuast i got from ssautochrome hits my tow hook.. i dunno if im the only person with this problem.. but im hating it.. from my point of view ssautochrome is crap.. i tried to email them about my problem of the tow hook.. and no answer.. good luck with the suspension components if you do get them.. and get ready to have no customer service if you do have a problem!

this is a problem with many aftermarket exhausts, just cut it.

[originalsin]

yea the exhuast hitting is a problem with my apexi n1 also, so i guess that apexi makes all garbage......uhhh no, i mean think of it guys, its piping with a muffler, when u get an expensive system you usually are paying for the name, these multi link arms looks like they are good quality, i mean look at megan coilovers, every1 said megan racing was junk when it 1st came out because they had such good deals, but no they just dont make u pay a ton cuz its not a jdm brand

[projectRDM]

You guys fail to realize that the Motoria exhausts (SSA) are designed on JDM applications which don't have the larger bumper supports that US cars do. Yashio Factory, Uras, Bee*R, and numerous others all have the same issues with clearance against the support. Cut it and quit crying. You wouldn't be pissing and moaning if it was something else because you'd argue it was true real 'JDM' and setbacks are alright.

As far as the SSA bashing, they distribute a lot of overseas parts from numerous manafacturers, the XS turbochargers in question had a few issues, but that's like calling Heavy Throttle crap because they sold a Greddy product that was damaged or broke later. SSA can't be blamed for a product that the sell being damaged since they didn't manafacture it and have no control over production.

The suspension arms in question are the same design as the Ctune Aero/PowerTrix/Deluboz and every other Ebay brand that's out there, for that price it's a steal.

[sLiDewAys]

i totally agree, at the moment i am running ssautochrome t25/28 manifold, 02 dump, catless downpipe and soon to be fmic, and soon after that their full 3inch exhasut unit. lets call my car ssautoTUNED:) lmao

so far so good and i havent had any prrblems with the fitment on their producs


brandon

[chrisstroud]

As far as the SSA bashing, they distribute a lot of overseas parts from numerous manafacturers, the XS turbochargers in question had a few issues, but that's like calling Heavy Throttle crap because they sold a Greddy product that was damaged or broke later. SSA can't be blamed for a product that the sell being damaged since they didn't manafacture it and have no control over production.
Form everything I've heard on other marque specific boards, people's problems with SSAC stem from them being dicks about supporting the warranty they advertise on many products.
Many of the products they sell are of decent quality, but the company seems sketchy in general.
It says a lot to me that they don't let local customers in NC pick up products at the shop.
Most of the XSPower turbos are actually Brazilian Master Power turbos, which have been used by lots of people without trouble.
The problem stems from them taking months to get a replacement under warranty when something DOES go wrong.

[projectRDM]

All good points, but I'm certain a lot of it comes from the suppliers not wanting to back their products. If you buy crap products and sell it, then need to warranty it, the supplying company probably will give you the run around to settle the complaint. SSA may be at fault for buying it, but they can't foresee how the suppliers will act in the long run. I think they've realized that and are now outsourcing better products from more reputable manafacturers.

[chrisstroud]

Yeah, I think you're right.
It won't stop me from buying a larger turbo from them when I upgrade my VW, or buying one of the plethora of S13 parts they offer when I need those.
My time is almost worthless, I've got no problems jumping through hoops if it saves me money.

[beater_240sx]

IMO:

You would pay 800.00+ for that kit if you were to buy it from a company with a "reputation" Those type of parts are meant to be adjustable, and under enough force and abuse they will break. Everything will break if just the right amount of force is applied to the right angle and area. So, at the price who cares if they break, buy new ones. I would say go for it, I might. If it was something like a turbo or suspension or a high ticket item along those lines, then I would question it.

[180InProgress]

I agree with Beater there, I would have gone for that set up if it was around when I did my suspension. Instead I went with Battle Version, it has the same setup only red anodized and I'm loving my set up.... although with any performance part out there, you have the risk of it breaking just as with any OEM part. Plus, its from Korea... not some 3rd world south asian country sweat shop. You can count on Korean craftsmanship..... just don't buy Daewoo. Take this from a half korean. Besides, The exhaust I got from SSauto was the Motoria one, it sounds tight and gave a definate boost in power.

[joobojesse]

i was wondering if those joints will hold... it doesnt look like they come with any kind of dust boot or bushing... would they last??

[theicecreamdan]

IMO:

You would pay 800.00+ for that kit if you were to buy it from a company with a "reputation" Those type of parts are meant to be adjustable, and under enough force and abuse they will break. Everything will break if just the right amount of force is applied to the right angle and area. So, at the price who cares if they break, buy new ones. I would say go for it, I might. If it was something like a turbo or suspension or a high ticket item along those lines, then I would question it.


for any price I think everybody SHOULD care whether or not it breaks, that stuff breaking too easily could put you and your car off a cliff, ruining a car and killing you.

And if a company not backing up the warranty they offer on products due to the manufacturers sucking, is a BS excuse, if they have a problem with the manufacturers they should get that resolved before they go screwing their customers. Once or twice, OK, more than that and they need to do soemthing about it.

[kognition]

Word. I closed my eyes and took the plunge on the Motoria 3" "engine back" exhaust for my rhd Silvia. I thought something would give by now, but it has turned out to be the best buy i have made so far for my car. It sucks when your on a budget and you are trying to get your car up to par. You need so much $hit just to make the car track ready. Since i have the Silvia, i do not have the tow hook issue mentioned. My header has not cracked on me yet so
if anyone has been eying the full engine back setup for the $475 i would jump
on it. Why should anyone pay $700 for a Jap cat back exhaust? If your drifting it doesnt matter IMHO. These suspension parts look damn good to me. And if any of you did not know, most of the Jap brands subcontract to cheaper countries to make their products like suspension etc. It is the world of cheap labor. I'm getting that suspension setup even if it is no name Korean. If it does the job, who cares. I am tired of this ridiculously expensive $hit that i cannot afford from Japan anyway. I even got their FMIC for $175, i mean how can you beat that?!. And how has Japanese customer service been
to everyone lately? Thought so.

i totally agree, at the moment i am running ssautochrome t25/28 manifold, 02 dump, catless downpipe and soon to be fmic, and soon after that their full 3inch exhasut unit. lets call my car ssautoTUNED:) lmao

so far so good and i havent had any prrblems with the fitment on their producs


brandon

[CoasTek240]

i totally agree, at the moment i am running ssautochrome t25/28 manifold, 02 dump, catless downpipe and soon to be fmic, and soon after that their full 3inch exhasut unit. lets call my car ssautoTUNED:) lmao

so far so good and i havent had any prrblems with the fitment on their producs


brandon
whered you get all of your product? ebay? im just wondering for future reference

[sLiDewAys]

whered you get all of your product? ebay? im just wondering for future reference


yeah ebay, i emailed them with questions reguarding the parts themselves before purcahse but i am a happy buyer. i did have a recent problem with the manifold reinforcment plates cracking on me BUT that is my fault. i had an exhasut leak at the 02 dump pipe and failed to fix it before a long 150+ mile drive, i also have stock exhasut so that creates a lot of backpressure and vibrations so this is the reason for that support bracket to fail. sheesh i seen them on ebay all day long for 80.00 so when i get a chance to get another catback 3inch ill buy another ssauto manifold and start off fresh.

brandon

[HyperTek]

go for it mang! im pretty positive that its simular/same stuff as ctrix or whatever/whoever... cuz i cant imagine every small time shop having thier own manufacturing plants.. its usually reproduced in china or whatever

[sLiDewAys]

hopefully someone will buy this suspension kit and take it on some aggressive action then come back and post the review so i can jump this bandwagon HAHAHAHA

[Adikt]

I guess ss auto stuff isn't made in mongolian caves anymore. I'll probly be picking this set up with some megan racing coilovers within the next couple of weeks and I'll give all of you a detailed review

[1121S13]

I agree with Beater there, I would have gone for that set up if it was around when I did my suspension. Instead I went with Battle Version, it has the same setup only red anodized and I'm loving my set up.... although with any performance part out there, you have the risk of it breaking just as with any OEM part. Plus, its from Korea... not some 3rd world south asian country sweat shop. You can count on Korean craftsmanship..... just don't buy Daewoo. Take this from a half korean. Besides, The exhaust I got from SSauto was the Motoria one, it sounds tight and gave a definate boost in power.
word!

dont fit/work?
dont be a pu$$y, tweak.
pay less, expect to work more.

[i8yourfwd]

I guess ss auto stuff isn't made in mongolian caves anymore. I'll probly be picking this set up with some megan racing coilovers within the next couple of weeks and I'll give all of you a detailed review
Yes, yes please do.

[nisans13turbo]

Good Thread, Its going on my car!!!:wavey:

[sblack13]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/S13-NISSAN-KOUKI-Cusco-Sty-DRIFT-Suspension-Kit-240SX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQihZ005QQit emZ150028825883QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[Slidin240Wayz]

I'm doing it!

EDIT:

DON'T DO IT!



Stick with what works:
SPL SPL SPL SPL

[s13silvia123]

whether the suspesnison part is good or not on low prices does not account for the quality of the product. i only support the quality of the product not the brand name. prices that are advertise to the public changes dramatically on customer-demand. the demand on Motoria is low thats why they would put it on such a low price. if theres a demand on Cusco products and theres plenty of it they would sell it at a high price. as for Motoria they have plenty of supplies but not enough people are buying them. thats why they put the prices at a low price for the consumer. you'll hae to judge the products on quality not on price. i have no issue with either i look for high qualitly products and i do research to find it is or not.

[addikted2bass]

i dont know about that.... i just read about this ssautochrome crap on 240sxforum the other day and a guy said his friend bought that and it was bent rfom normal driving conditions,critical sus. parts should not be comprimised by price, only by quality and motaria or ssautochrome has yet proven that. here is the post to other forum

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86717&highlight=ssautochrome

[aznpoopy]

i dont know about that.... i just read about this ssautochrome crap on 240sxforum the other day and a guy said his friend bought that and it was bent rfom normal driving conditions,critical sus. parts should not be comprimised by price, only by quality and motaria or ssautochrome has yet proven that. here is the post to other forum

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86717&highlight=ssautochrome

we have that thread here... much more info as well

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=101048

[s13silvia123]

quality plays an important role in safety. i would like to see members compare motoria products to brand name parts and see whats the difference. how they are different and what makes motoria so bad. i want see the quality in the material Motoria makes. i'm a Alloy technician and i'll is see what made them the way they are. making a pure metal isnt always so pure. a certian amount of other metals are still in any metal. reason for that they make the metal stronger. but if its not the right amount of a certain metal it will not have the strength. quality in products do matter by this situation. a certain amount of metal does play the important role in the chemistry of all alloy products.

[FinalDrive]

I just ordered a pair of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motoria-Rear-S13-Nissan-Upper-Camber-Suspension-Arms_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQihZ005QQite mZ150029699511

They look a lot like SPL ones from the pictures. I'll post pictures of the actual arms to compare to the pictures in the auction.

[wangan_cruiser]

Looks a lot like SPL Parts suspension bits.


spl parts are way better than that.... =)

[timtiminy]

i just got this suspension kit (motoria full kit) for my s13, and from the looks of it, it looks really good, clean welds and all. i dont forsee a problem with them, the price was right and they look ridiculously similar to spl parts. i haven't put them on yet so no review on longevity or functionaltiy but i will definately keep you all posted on that once i get a good feel for the parts. if you want to see pictures of the parts i can snap off a few and post um, just let me know.

[Ghost Dancer]

There is a local shop here that re-sell Motoria parts as their own "SPL" line and a few friends are running their footwork pieces on their Silvias with no complaints.

[FinalDrive]

pics as promised:

just a regular ass adjustable rear upper arm
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1866/img1714vd7.jpg

nice and shiny, but thin looking on the ends
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3686/img1716lf2.jpg

no extra reinforcement bracket here like the ebay pics (SPL ones have the bracket)
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6900/img1715gc8.jpg

[Adikt]

I got my Motoria suspension in about 3 weeks ago. I'll keep this short and sweet

The GOOD:
Cheap, I paid $175 shipped and they fucked up and sent me both s13 and s14 RUCAs
Design of the arms themselves is exactly like CUSCO

The BAD
There was surface rust on the INSIDE of the arms
The Heim joints need to be greased every couple of weeks
Rear traction rod came with wrong spacers and I had to get some washers to get it to fit into the subframe.
They clank and clunk like all hell

Final Impressions
So far they survived 3 weeks of daily driving, 1 drift day, and 1 drift exhibition. I flew off the course a couple times over ditches, bumps, and everything in between and they haven't so much as bent. The chrome coating on them is still perfect. I would recommend them to as long as you took care of them and greased them every couple weeks they should be fine. Also don't drive on them during winter where salt and corrosion would eventually destroy them.

[Slidin240Wayz]

I just ordered a pair of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motoria-Rear-S13-Nissan-Upper-Camber-Suspension-Arms_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQihZ005QQite mZ150029699511

They look a lot like SPL ones from the pictures. I'll post pictures of the actual arms to compare to the pictures in the auction.

Your car is setup pretty nice so far, but I have to ask, why would you skimp on suspension arms?

Carlos

[FinalDrive]

They will be going on the beater s13, not the track s14

[timtiminy]

had my brother in law look at the welds to tell me if they were any good, he was a welding instructor and had alot of experience with all types of welding, he told me they look really good. and said i shouldnt have any problem with them, he just recomended I change out the heim joints, which i plan on doing. they dont look any good at all.plus i want to go with teflon lined ones as to not worry about lubing them.

[MURPHY]

can you change out the heim joints and put teflon ones in?

[timtiminy]

yeah the joints just unscrew. good heims are expensive, just make sure you get the correct ones. thread and hole diameter is what to look at.

[MURPHY]

well when you figure out what heim joints your gonna use let us know

[Adikt]

Its you funeral man

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit1.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit2.jpg

Luckly mine failed on the track and I had spares. BTW this is only after 1500 miles

[robertftw]

Its you funeral man

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit1.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit2.jpg

Luckly mine failed on the track and I had spares. BTW this is only after 1500 miles
thats really bad if the inside is rusted that bad after 1500 miles. what track do you guys run in the chi. i lived there 21 years of my 22 years on this planet, i go back a few times more than i should, would like to know so i can play there and meet some felow members as well. p.s. how hard did you hit?

[timtiminy]

what arm is that, that broke? what do you think caused that break? it looks to me that you must have hit something that bent that linkage in order for it to break like that. an accident perhaps? i don't think that it wouldn't break like that if it was track driven, even if you are driving really hard.

[McRussellPants]

Yeah man, Track = No suspension stress at all, even when you're driving REALLY hard!

You must have run over 30 curbs in a row sideways at 70mph in order to get a quality peice like megan to break.

[soreballz]

Yeah man, Track = No suspension stress at all, even when you're driving REALLY hard!

You must have run over 30 curbs in a row sideways at 70mph in order to get a quality peice like megan to break.
Ah, the stench of sarcasm... Its a beautiful thing.

But yeah... should've gone with SPL. Using a cheap exhaust/intake, no big deal. Using cheap shit in places that hold your car together, well... Thats just plain stupid.

[SimpleSexy180]

lol wow not only did the arm rust and break, but the rest of the subframe and chassy is also on its way.

[aznpoopy]

lol wow not only did the arm rust and break, but the rest of the subframe and chassy is also on its way.

thats pretty much how any car over 5 years old looks here

its just surface rust

and thank you for posting those adikt... i was looking for those pics but i couldn't remember where i saw them.

[Adikt]

When I got the arms from SSAC they were already rusted INSIDE. timtiminy go unscrew your heims and see what you find.

I used these from August until they broke at the end of Septemeber. I didn't hit anything. If you don't believe me just wait and see. First your rear end is going to start to feel weird and the arm gets kinked and then bam its broken.

Don't believe me? Thats fine go and use them, then when they break and send you into a wall don't come back here and whine.

My subframe is rusted because of Chicago winters. Its just surface rust, nothing major. We run a couple of tracks up here such as Rockford Speedway, Road America, and USA IR

[BOROSUN]

jeezus man, thats horrible.

[irritatedmax]

what arm was that? what car - s13/s14?

name brand arms - 1
motoria - 0

[Adikt]

Those were the Motoria S14 arms

[MOUNTAINGARAGE]

GEEZ, you guys talk of the rust as if it effecting the structural integrity of the arm. RUST has nothing to do with why this arm failed. it would have to be in a salt bath for a year before it weakened the steel tubing.

If you are racing/drifting buy the good stuff. If you are trying to cut corners stop crying. You get what you pay for. Works for some, not so much for others.

[naed240sx]

GEEZ, you guys talk of the rust as if it effecting the structural integrity of the arm. RUST has nothing to do with why this arm failed. it would have to be in a salt bath for a year before it weakened the steel tubing.

Yeah, thats just surface rust. who gives a fuck. It failed cause the metal is shit quality, and really thin.



If you are racing/drifting buy the good stuff. If you are trying to cut corners stop crying. You get what you pay for. Works for some, not so much for others.

No, people should buy the good stuff no matter what the plan on using the car for. For a daily it's even more important to have good shit, because otherwise that its not a question of if, but rather when the arm will break and send you off the road.

[babowc]

lol keep cutting corners..
you'll end up with a circle :)

[timtiminy]

if that was the s14 ruca how do you think the s13 ruca will hold up? i figure it may be alot better considering the s13 ruca has two pieces for the arms instead of one like the s14 ones. how did the other arms hold up? or was it the same story on those?

[Adikt]

The other arms are still fine. They make alot of noise tho. Also you might have to use washers when installing the rear toe arms. Kinda sounds like metallic popping. I'm definatly getting rid of them and getting Battle Version ASAP

[timtiminy]

i will be changing out the heims so that should eliminate the noise, and i may fill the arms with a urethane compound to absorb any frequency vibration and extra noise. i'll keep in mind the washers. or have new spacers made. good to know that the other arms are holding up fine. I wonder how many motoria arms have failed like yours, or if it is just a bad luck issue and you are one of the few. I didn't like the way the s14rucas had the tubing fattened (kind of destroys the structural rigidness of the circle), perhaps that is where the problem starts. I guess i'll just have to see for myself once i get them on.

[MURPHY]

ive never seen other fail, i think the idea of filling em with something is a real good idea too. hell ive seen BV fail too so who knows

[McRussellPants]

i will be changing out the heims so that should eliminate the noise, and i may fill the arms with a urethane compound to absorb any frequency vibration and extra noise.


yeah, drilling a hole in an already weak link sounds like a really good idea.

lol at urethane idea, the noise is coming from the heim making the chassis resonate, not the link. lolol.


oh zilvia, I <3 your schemes.

[timtiminy]

i wasnt planning on doing the rucas cause they're not open ended like the other arms, just doing the ones with open ends. i didnt say i was going to drill them...i dont know where you got that from, oh you, I <3 your speculations.

other ideas are to foam fill the subframe to deaden noise casue i dont think it will make the subframe anymore stiff. although it may. i dont mind road noise i just dont want to hear squeeking from the heims, so changing those out is number one on my priorities, plus the added safeguard of having stronger heims than what come on the motoria ones, which are really shady looking anyhow.

[MOUNTAINGARAGE]

These are good parts for crusing the mall with M4d c4mb3r bRah!
but in all honesty i don't even trust the name brands, every big company makes profitable business decisions to sub work out to china, malaysia, thailand, etc. Who pays in the end? we do!