D-Drug Coilovers Groupbuy

[tougefactory]

D-Drug Coilovers - Normal Retail $1280, Groupbuy price $1,050
Shipping is around $15-40 depending on your zipcode.

Click here to Order (http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cat=108)

All orders will be pre-paid in full and non refundable after order is placed. Delivery time will be around 2-3 wks to your door after the GB has ended. Coilovers will be shipped by air so actual shipping time is only 4-5 days from Japan.

This groupbuy will end on July 29th or earlier depending on inventory.

Please do not send PM to zilvia acct. You can email questions to [email protected]

http://www.tougefactory.com/images/dumper.jpg


Features
1 - 40way adjustable dampening. Adjustment knobs are mounted on top for easy access. Shocks were valved to specs according to feedback from various tests which included street, drift, and circuit.

2 - Pillow upper mount for front and rear. Front comes with adjustable camber plates.

3 - German make spring(ID 60mm) is utilized to ensure minimal sagging.

4 - Piston Valve Diameter - Front 46mm, Rear 40mm
Piston Diameter - Front 22mm, 14mm
Monotube casing is designed to take much abuse and load.

5 - External resorvoir tank (40mm) is standard on front and rear shocks. One of the flaws with short stroke body shocks is the insufficient oil capacity. External resorvoir increases oil capacity to provide stable performance.

6 - Super short body. This means even at the highest setting, your car will be low.

Click Here to read the Review by Koguchi in OPTION magazine
Page 1 (http://www.tougefactory.com/images/hidari.jpg)
Page 2 (http://www.tougefactory.com/images/migi.jpg)

Used by

Mr. Fukuda
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Kazuya Bai's S15
http://origin-lab.com/images/g-bai04.jpg
Mr. Ueshima
http://origin-lab.com/images/g-ueshima02.jpg

[tougefactory]

Click here to see a Video of D-Drug equipped 180SX in action. (http://www.tougefactory.com/osakadrift.avi)
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http://www.tougefactory.com/images/ddrugsus.jpg

[dori_pho]

wow, really nice coil over set up. anyone here on the forums ever deal with tis company before and if so whats the SCOOP' on performance. 1st buyer please post review when you recieve product.

jason

[ucfz31s13]

anyone here on the forums ever deal with tis company before

yes

tougefactory is good people.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Ya TF is very legit, Ive seen the coilovers in person, and installed and they are great. A Steal for the price.

[OptionZero]

I believe he meant D-Drug, but in any case, i'd like to know if anyone has experience with those coilovers.

I know they make aero for 180sx

[KiDyNomiTe]

Talk to TF Dave, they are on one of his cars.

[aa87]

HOLY SHIT, I found my coilovers!

Any idea on rebuilding/repair/support?

[Ritz S14]

Everything seems awesome about them. BUT damn 40way? Geez I'll probably loose count after 12 clicks :(

Better yet, have some type of EDFC capability.

[trsilvias13]

if these this was out about a week ago.. i would paid in full right away. unless someone wants some kts for the s14

[NZO]

How/why are these so cheap? Are they double height adjustable and if so how does the lower mount lock to the shock body?

[tougefactory]

We'll be offering rebuilds and replacement parts. Everything from springs,shocks, pillow mounts will be repleaceable.

The reason for the low price is that we want to debut a new product for promotion purposes, hence the groupbuy.

Thanks

[tougefactory]

Are they double height adjustable and if so how does the lower mount lock to the shock body?


It does not have adjustable bottom perch. However D-Drug goes very very low. On S13 at the highest setting, there's 1 finger gap in the rear and 1.5 finger gap in the front.

[sdtouge]

would it be possioble to order a little stiffer arpring rates?

[OptionZero]

the website has 8/6 or 10/8

[s0ldats]

how would one adjust the height without the adjustable perch? just adjust spring perch?

[ride 4 lame]

would it be possioble to order a little stiffer arpring rates?
yeah ditto

sell me on these. why should i get these as opposed to tanabe dds?

[aa87]

yeah, if you guys are gonna offer 10/8, i want to know before i order.

[phreze]

yeah ditto

sell me on these. why should i get these as opposed to tanabe dds?

For one you would be saving $700 :D If I didn't already have super drifts I would pick these up in a second. Got my body kit from them and they are very informed ppl.

[tougefactory]

would it be possioble to order a little stiffer arpring rates?
10/8 Spring rate is available. 8/6 will be standard.

[Saisoku]

This is soooooo tempting. I dont know if I want these or my car painted [email protected] YOU!!!


I also want to re-ask the question of is it rebuildable???

[tonesdefae86]

damn you dave i want to sell my Mr's now to get these

[ZoltecRules]

Dave, emailed you twice. Once Monday and once today. No respsonse. Write me back at [email protected]

[bcrume]

I'm really interested in these but I also want to know how they compare to tanabe dd's

[phreze]

Do a search, tanabe dd's are $700 more, have 4 settings of adjustablity, dont have the external oil resivor (typicaly high end circuit coil-overs have these) both are given the thumbs up by Chunky Bai. I'm sure TF could bust it down beter as they sell both.

[OptionZero]

More adjustment is not necessarily better; most of the intervals do nothing or are not noticeable anyways.

But if anyone has done straight up comparisons with DD"s and these, i'd love to know, because i have DD's on order.

[bcrume]

Kazuya Bai now helps origin design products so he has to push em. Just because he uses them doesn't make them just as good or better than dd's. I'm about to buy coilovers and these look tempting but has anyone driven with these and dd's? A good comparison would be greatly appreciated. I don't care about the difference in money.

[S14DB]

I'm suprised that these are more than the JDM cost. Usally when things come to the US they cost less than they do in Japan.

[ootranceformeroo]

Ill get em but I dont think Id have the money in time of the group buy. TougeFactory, you think you guys will do another group buy sometime this year? Thanks.

[infinitexsound]

no daniel u teletubby u..lol j/k........ nice rig tho...... but yeah seriously 40 way??? if its kicked down to like 15way im in to win........ chunky bai look out

[sw20>>s14]

jeebus thats a steal...hmm...thinking about selling my HEs before they even hit the car...dammit...

[240trainee]

Will they by any chance be able to change rear mounts to use a z32 rear upright? I was gonna go with KTS coils because they can use the Z32 upright, but these look pimp as crap. I just don't knowwwwww

[240trainee]

And i would really like to know what Kouguchi is saying about these things, My Japanese comprehension is about nothing.

[tougefactory]

Hi guys.

We'll be offering rebuild services in the states and replacement parts.

Many of you have asked about D-Drug and Tanabe DD comparison. I have both of these on my S13's, so I will try to give you an un-biased review.

It won't be an accurate comparison as Tanabe DD is on heavily modified chassis(hatchback), and D-drug is on almost stock chassis(coupe).
I personally have experienced many different coilovers on S13 chassis. So far Tanabe DD is my favorite out of all of them.

Tanabe DD is valved really good and 4 way adjustment makes it very easy to adjust at the track. Its also short stroke and has bottom adjustable perch which allows it go very low. It uses forged aluminum parts for durability and lightweight. Oversize pistons and valve components takes alot of abuse. Ride on the street is stiff but very controlled so its not fatiguing at all. Overall this coilover kicks a*s.

I've had the D-drug for about a month to test them out(to make sure its good). So far I have been pleasantly surprised and pleased.
D-drug is valved very good compared to other coilovers in the similar price range. It doesn't have bottom adjustable perch but its super short stroke, so your car will be low. You won't be able to drive at stock height, even if you tried. 40-way is bit too much IMO, but the knob clicks and feels very solid unlike the Megans. Change can be felt in every click. Adjustable Pillow upper mounts are standard on fronts and rears. It does not use forged aluminum parts like DD's but keep in mind the price difference. I have 10/8 spring rate like DD's so ride is stiff but is controlled. But i can't comment on the ride on the street yet because this car is running stock wheels and tire size. Stiff suspension + bouncy tires = soso ride. but I have yet to feel a body roll in corners. Overall this coilover is best bang for the buck.

Its hard to say if D-drug can match up to DD's performance because of the differences in the chassis, wheels, and tires. But for the price we're offering in this groupbuy, you won't be disappointed with this coilover.

[240trainee]

I think I'll give these a shot, seem like a good product. and they go loooooooooooooooooow, I like it, hehehe

[s0ldats]

pics of them on your s13 please :)

[sw20>>s14]

Adjustable Pillow upper mounts are standard on fronts and rears.

on the first page you said that the fronts are adjustable and its assumed that the rears are pillow ball...but you just said that they are both adjustable...you meant fronts are pillow ball/adjustable while the rears are pillow ball/non adj. right? just confirming...and also, this gb is for all s chassis right? didnt really say...seriously considering a set soon...thanks for the review...

and since you personally have a set...considering that is doesnt have a lower perch to adjust, how much can you drop it before you preload the spring? im assuming since these are super short stroke, you can drop it enough (0"-3") without impeding spring travel correct? i personally dont like a "slammed" car so i could probably do without the lower perch...okay, now i really want them... :smash:

[CaoBoY]

ooh OH! question! is there any way the group buy could be extended?! and do you guy accept american express?! lol! no really though.

[SirWarrior]

So is there an option to get the Z32 rears like KTS???

[final act]

Im very interested in these, Im making a order as soon as I get the money!

[BSPerformance]

I wouldnt have enough for this untill like middle of aug, I miss the dead line booooo lol, who ever buys these post up some pics and a review plz

[240trainee]

I'll work my ass off next week for some extra cash to get these, So exciting, I hope I can pull it off, I want to try these sooooo bad. There isn't a participation limit is there, as long as I get money in by the 29th, I'm good, right?

[tougefactory]

pics of them on your s13 please :)

http://www.tougefactory.com/images/onevia1.jpg
http://www.tougefactory.com/images/onevia2.jpg
http://www.tougefactory.com/images/onevia3.jpg

[s0ldats]

alright i think i'm gonna take a gamble on these, i'm trustin you dave :)

edit: are those at full height?

eeeediitt: how many more sales needed before gb ends?

[tougefactory]

alright i think i'm gonna take a gamble on these, i'm trustin you dave :)

edit: are those at full height?

eeeediitt: how many more sales needed before gb ends?

Yes, its at highest setting. I had it lowered more but with stock 15's ,exhaust was scraping everywhere.

There is no minimum for this groupbuy. This is a special promotional sales.

[240trainee]

Hahahahaha, thats as high as they go?? I love it, lol.

[morpheus8486]

Everything seems awesome about them. BUT damn 40way? Geez I'll probably loose count after 12 clicks :(

Better yet, have some type of EDFC capability.

What's this about having some type of EDFC capability? Can anyone confirm this? These look pimp. How does these compare to the tein super drifts? And seeing how low they are at they're highest setting do you think I would have any problems running these with a set of 205/50/15 tires?

[aa87]

Highest setting?!?! so low???! crap, that would leave me screwd

[phreze]

I saw this car personaly on Saturday when I was picking up some parts and it looked great. Touge Factory is run by a good bunch of guys who wouldn't steer you wrong.

[s0ldats]

Yes, its at highest setting. I had it lowered more but with stock 15's ,exhaust was scraping everywhere.

There is no minimum for this groupbuy. This is a special promotional sales.

so the earliest they can be shipped out is the 29th?

edit: or when is the earliest that they can be shipped out if i pay say, today?

[flipdrifter]

All orders will be pre-paid in full and non refundable after order is placed. Delivery time will be around 2-3 wks to your door after the GB has ended. Coilovers will be shipped by air so actual shipping time is only 4-5 days from Japan.


is it 4-5 days from japan to our doors or is it 4-5 days from japan to the US.. then 2-3 weeks to our doors... :ugh:

[Helghast]

do D-Drug sell optional Springs?

Like if I buy 8k/6k and want to go 10/8 for track purpose.

question is..do D-Drug just sell springs too?

[tougefactory]

do D-Drug sell optional Springs?

Like if I buy 8k/6k and want to go 10/8 for track purpose.

question is..do D-Drug just sell springs too?

You can purchase extra springs for $105 each.

[tougefactory]

is it 4-5 days from japan to our doors or is it 4-5 days from japan to the US.. then 2-3 weeks to our doors... :ugh:

All coilovers will be ordered after the GB. Then it takes 7-10 days to receive them from Japan to our warehouse. Then it'll take 1-3 days for domestic shipping within USA. So about 2 wks total to your door.

[that180guy]

:tweak: :tweak: MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!
thats how high it goes!!!!!!!!!!!
external resuviour!!!!!
40 way adjustability.......thats like a oxymoron....its good, but at the same way...its not soo good.....4ways on the DDs isnt that bad

deffinently a steal for the price

[sw20>>s14]

any updates on orders or inventory? thinking about getting a set depending on my financial status by the end of this month...

[tempuraDRIFT]

Will they by any chance be able to change rear mounts to use a z32 rear upright? I was gonna go with KTS coils because they can use the Z32 upright, but these look pimp as crap. I just don't knowwwwww


im on the same boat i just need to make 200$ lol i want these !

[drifts135]

Damn I wish I had money right now so I could buy a pair of these in this gb! :(

[240trainee]

Sent money, I'll take all the sticker you guys'll give me, Touge Factory Guys!!!! I can't freaking wait, they should be here when I come back from vacation

[flipdrifter]

I'll take all the sticker you guys'll give me, Touge Factory Guys!!!!

LoL me too!!

do you think we can get tracking numbers when you ship..?!

[tougefactory]

New Pictures with some Work VS-XX 17x8, 17x9 wheels on.


http://www.tougefactory.com/images/ddrugnew1.jpg
http://www.tougefactory.com/images/ddrugnew2.jpg
http://www.tougefactory.com/images/ddrugnew3.jpg
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[tougefactory]

We had alot of questions regarding the coilovers, so we decided to put new wheels on to test them again to find out for ourselves.

First of all, I must say going from $30 Goodyear 15" tires to 17" Falken Azenis tires is night and day!

Now for the new review.

As you can see from the pictures its low. And you can go much lower than that.

I had the front shocks at setting 20(middle), rears at 10 (10 less from most stiff). The ride on the street improved so much with new wheels and tires. Ride on the street and bumpy backroad is pretty stiff with 10k/8k springs but the shocks are valved really good that its not too fatiguing. Ride is not bouncy at all.
On the highway, it felt really good. Again its stiff so the car doesn't really move so you feel everything. But the ride wasn't bouncy so it wasn't too fatiguing. Going 70mph on offramps felt so good, car felt very neutral and solid. I don't think there was much body roll, if at all.
40-way dampening is too much, as I changed the setting couple of times and lost track and had to start from stiff. So I just click 10times everytime to change to make it a 4-way. You can definitely feel the difference with each setting. Even at full stiff, car was definitely streetable.
Couple of things I did notice was that, while going up some steep curves at an angle, one of the rear wheel will get airborn because the coilover is so short. So LSD is recommended. Once again you must like your car low.

Overall this coilover kicks big butt. I definitely recommend these to that want their car to be low and stiff. This is definitely best valved system at this price range. For daily drivers I recommend 8k/6k springs as it is more forgiving at the limit and little bit more streetable. For more info, please feel free to call us to ask any questions.

[tougefactory]

For the S14 guys, here's a picture of D-Drug coilovers on S14 zenki.
http://origin-lab.com/images/g-gross01.jpg

[sw20>>s14]

Couple of things I did notice was that, while going up some steep curves at an angle, one of the rear wheel will get airborn because the coilover is so short. So LSD is recommended. Once again you must like your car low.

can you go into more detail about the three wheelin' thing? what where you trying to describe? i understand what you were trying to describe, but not the "steep angled curve" part...downhill DR hairpin?
also, can you give an approximation of how much drop it is on the highest setting? you keep repeating that its super low, but i dont want my car that low...also, i dont want that to be the reason to pass up such a setup at this price...
i know all these questions from us are annoying and redundant, but you have to understand that no one knows much about these...i have asked literally all my friends/driving aquantances and no one knows anything...so in a way, it is a gamble...but i am known to be the gambler, so im going all in very soon...

[s0ldats]

it will lift the rear wheels in driveway situations and such. the pics are of the car at full height (highest setting).

i talked to dave about these and they seem to be quality. i'm going for them.

[White]

I was over at TF checking these out when they were running on the stock 15s, you can get one finger in the front wheel well and about 1/2 a finger in the back on the highest setting, or reverse that, I can't remember. Needless to say it's low.

[defiantmofo]

ya its really low but looks awesome. I think it was 1finger in the back, 1/2 in the front.

[Ichi-Go]

If you ran normal 60 series tires and 10k/8k spring rates the tires will become bouncy?

[tempuraDRIFT]

If you ran normal 60 series tires and 10k/8k spring rates the tires will become bouncy?

lol noo the springs are stiff so you will feel alot more of the road

[tempuraDRIFT]

ahh please be on sale for like 2 more weeks this bites i really want to put these sobs to use !! holy fudgesicles batman !

[sw20>>s14]

TF, how many orders have you had so far? just curious...im still deciding but im pretty sure ill come around when friday rolls by...cant wait...

[s0ldats]

i'm ordering these tonight after work or tomorrow sometime. will initial thoughts and then track review after aug. 28.

[ZoltecRules]

<-----Went to TF and ordered yesterday!!!

[sw20>>s14]

just ordered my set! cant wait =)...dont miss out, david said last time to order is today at 5pm pst and 7pm cst...david for teh winz in customer service!!!!

[BSPerformance]

man i got shorted on paycheck only made it to $900 :-(

[defiantmofo]

Ordered Mine today. Cant wait.

[Xracer]

somebody should take pics of these things at the lowest setting...they are looking very attractive.

[Monkey Boy]

take some pics of it ground level. i would like to get these but would like to leave them on the highest settings as i dont' really want mines to low.

[defiantmofo]

I believe the group buy ended on the 31st. I believe dave said they should be here within a week or so.

[240trainee]

Yep, I'm so stoked about these, hopefully they will be waiting for me when I get home on the 20th!!!!

[ZoltecRules]

Was told by Eric that if they got there with enough time to be installed before the 20th, I'd be lucky...

[Monkey Boy]

for those of you who will get this installed post some reviews up. i am thinking about picking these up as they are in my price range, i know the group buy is over and i am waiting for a link to be put up on the website so i can order it regularly.

[flipdrifter]

any updates on shipment...!?

[s0ldats]

eta is "sometime soon" they're still in japan being assembled as i heard it. a lot of custom rates were ordered i guess.


should have made initial batch only available in 10/8 and 8/6, but that's my opinion.

[defiantmofo]

i didnt know custom rates were availible. i thought they would be here before the 20th for sure... Drifting without coilovers isnt fun.

[sw20>>s14]

eta is "sometime soon" they're still in japan being assembled as i heard it. a lot of custom rates were ordered i guess.


should have made initial batch only available in 10/8 and 8/6, but that's my opinion.

man...so im not getting my coilovers anytime soon? thanks to all you guys who wanna be "different and unique" :Ownedd:

[240trainee]

i didnt know custom rates were availible. i thought they would be here before the 20th for sure... Drifting without coilovers isnt fun.


Yea, this seriously sucks. :cry:

[sw20>>s14]

update: they should ship out from japan on monday and arrive in the states on wednesday (estimated eta)...YAY! free origin shirts and stickers for cool gb ppl! cant wait to slap them in...

[OurOnePassion]

I feel late and left out, are all of the orders already taken? Or can I still buy in. Even if not, would there be any fitmet probs with the RotaD2s afformentioned in the GBs? 17x8.5 +20 all the way around? By the way, my hat's off to the TougeFactory guys!

[s0ldats]

they clear stock alloys, so shouldn't be a problem.

[s0ldats]

i really hope they get here soon, i really do not want to miss the FD practice on the 21st..

[sw20>>s14]

i was told that they shipped out from japan today...so theyre on schedule...

[s0ldats]

on schedule means.... at TF chicago by tomorrow?

[phreze]

From Japan to Chicago overnight? This isn't F&F.

[s0ldats]

on schedule meant they shipped out on monday. air freight is 2days

[defiantmofo]

i was told that they shipped out from japan today...so theyre on schedule...

I dont know where you got your info from, but i just called TF and they said they still havent had confirmation that they shipped out from Japan.

[ZoltecRules]

It depends on which ones you ordered. I believe the s13's would be in Friday 8/19 or Monday 8/22, s14's would be later.

[s0ldats]

It depends on which ones you ordered. I believe the s13's would be in Friday 8/19 or Monday 8/22, s14's would be later.


is that fact?

[DUBCITY]

can some please post or pm me the phone number for TF? I cant seem to get in touch with anyone over email and there is no contact info on the website.

thanks
-robbie

[ZoltecRules]

is that fact?
Spoke with Dave yesterday

can some please post or pm me the phone number for TF? I cant seem to get in touch with anyone over email and there is no contact info on the website.

thanks
-robbie
:rolleyes:
http://www.tougefactory.com/contact.htm

PH 847.412.1271

[DUBCITY]

^ yeah i know im retarded, but thanks for the help.

[s0ldats]

does anyone know if they're going out from TF by air?

[s0ldats]

so who exactly preordered these and for which chassis and rates?


i'll start:

s13 - 10/8

[flipdrifter]

s13 - 10/8 too

[240trainee]

S13 - 8/6.

[inertia]

s14- 10/8.

[defiantmofo]

S13 10/8. Still waiting.

[sw20>>s14]

s14 10/8...so how many ppl got the custom rates?

[White]

Well Rob left a message that mine are in at least, S13 10/8. I was told before that 77.8% of people that ordered got custom spring rates aka 10/8. Guess I'll be heading over there after work to pick them up. Damn, it's tempting to leave right now!

[sw20>>s14]

just got an update from rob...they arrived at TG today... \0/ YAY!!! so theyll be shipping out to everybody soon...so it took three to four weeks, whats the big deal? TF got us killer coilovers at a good price...so everybody stop whining...if you really needed them quick, you should have known how time consuming gbs from japan usually turn out...no complaints here, cant wait...

[tougefactory]

We apologize for the slight delay. All the coilovers have been shipped out today. Please contact us for tracking info.

Thank you for your patience.

As we promised, free Origin t-shirt and Origin stickers are included.

Thank you

[240trainee]

Heck yes, I hope you guys shipped xl shirts...... Big dudes need clothing too, lol. I can't wait, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) :bigok:

[s0ldats]

great to know! sad that they won't be here on time for me.


but that's life. thanks TF for a great gb :thumbup:

[defiantmofo]

Just put these on and slammed doesnt begin to describe them. Definetly high quality pieces, and a steal for the price. Cant wait for the next drift day.

[BOROSUN]

mofo...got pics of it??

[sw20>>s14]

Just put these on and slammed doesnt begin to describe them. Definetly high quality pieces, and a steal for the price. Cant wait for the next drift day.
on what ride height setting are you referring to? im really hoping that i can still DD my ride...yes, pics please

[upSLIDEdown]

Heck yes, I hope you guys shipped xl shirts...... Big dudes need clothing too, lol. I can't wait, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;) :bigok:

If your shirt is a Large and doesn't fit, I'll be more than happy to take it off your hands. :) I've been wanting to order an Origin shirt, just haven't done it yet. Hopefully my kit will be on sometime in the near future. ;)

Bryan

[KiDyNomiTe]

Just put these on and slammed doesnt begin to describe them. Definetly high quality pieces, and a steal for the price. Cant wait for the next drift day.
Ya I can find all of you locals who bought D-Drugs, so no excuses to be at the next Drift Day.

Click link in my sig and register!!!

TF is giving prizes at this event too!

Hope you all love your coilovers.

[defiantmofo]

Ya I can find all of you locals who bought D-Drugs, so no excuses to be at the next Drift Day.
Hope you all love your coilovers.

Come on, i have been at DD6 and DD7 with amazing body roll. im the super stock red hatch. I cant wait for DD8. Im gonna snap some pics right now.

[defiantmofo]

Here are some quick shots.
http://defianceindustries.net/files/ddrug1.JPG
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http://defianceindustries.net/files/ddrug2.JPG
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http://defianceindustries.net/files/ddrug3.JPG
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http://defianceindustries.net/files/ddrug4.JPG

I didnt really adjust the height to much. Their almost as high as they go, maybe i could raise them a half in or so. The ride is awesome, and definetly high quality.

[s0ldats]

tire size?

[defiantmofo]

those are stock sized 195.55.15

[upSLIDEdown]

Stock is 195/60/15 or optional 205/60/15.

[doriS13]

hey i was wondering if the group buy is still going on and if the 8/6 are still available also, does the s13 with those on the highest setting even clear the speed bumps? that looks sooooooooo low... maybe too low by the way i'm running 205-50-15 or 55 i cant remember thanks in advance

[sw20>>s14]

hey i was wondering if the group buy is still going on and if the 8/6 are still available also, does the s13 with those on the highest setting even clear the speed bumps? that looks sooooooooo low... maybe too low by the way i'm running 205-50-15 or 55 i cant remember thanks in advance
dont be lazy and read the last four pages...all your questions will be answered...

[S_14.5]

I didnt really adjust the height to much. Their almost as high as they go, maybe i could raise them a half in or so. The ride is awesome, and definetly high quality.

haha...yah that's pretty low, but those are on the stock 15s. Anyone got them on 95-98 240SX? I'm sure for those w/ an aero kit & 18s on a S14 will have the perfect ride height and clearance....so anyone w/ more pics?

[sw20>>s14]

haha...yah that's pretty low, but those are on the stock 15s. Anyone got them on 95-98 240SX? I'm sure for those w/ an aero kit & 18s on a S14 will have the perfect ride height and clearance....so anyone w/ more pics?
im getting mine on monday :x: ill snap some pics for you virgil...dood, you know that i still havent sprayed that white bumper of yours? lol, lazy...

[S_14.5]

im getting mine on monday :x: ill snap some pics for you virgil...dood, you know that i still havent sprayed that white bumper of yours? lol, lazy...

hey! that bumper is still in pretty damn good condition! let me drop by to check out the c/o's on your car. I've decided no to part out w/ my car...just updating it w/ new parts now. let me know when you get the DD c/o's.

[S_14.5]

ohh yeah before I forget...since you haven't painted the rear bumper, I wanted to make a quick mold off it. thinking of making some FRP rear zenki valances.

[sw20>>s14]

okay so i got my ddrugs today...yay! yay! whatever...i must say, i am a little disappointed and have a few gripes, but keep in mind that they are not installed and these are just my personal opinions...

--first of all, the coilovers were not very strategically packed...imagine a huge box, and four individually wrapped coils slammin against each other and the box...the box had hella holes indicating some coercive force during shipping...when i opened it, there were three on the bottom and one front sprawled on top of the three...just looked like some sweatshop kid threw em in a box and taped it up...no damage as of yet
--second of all, for something thats 40 way adjustable, the clicks are pretty weak and vague...
--third, for something that is a higher level product, i assumed that there would be some kind of instructions or documentation of some sort. not that im lost, just that finishing touches, professionalism, and first impressions complete the package of a good product...if my neighbor got these on accident, he wouldnt be able to tell them from ebay ones...even the box is blank...(not that it matters, like i said, professionalism)
--fourth, the camber plates dont have any markings...whats my camber spec again?..
--fifth, david told me that they ran out of springs and had to use silver springs...i was hoping i would get red ones...not a big deal, but its a psychological, insecure thing...i want whats pictured and original...who wants an alternative or alteration of the original?
and
--lastly, WHERE ARE MY DAMN SPANNER WRENCHES????!!!!!!!

none the less, the quality looks good...and as for TF, they did a good job not being too late on the delivery and gave us good prices...only gripe for TF is their packing tactics...im gonna see if more ppl have reviews on them before i slap them on...im starting to come down with a case of uncertainty and buyers remorse...someone in a mature and constructive fashion prove me wrong with some credible evidence...

[sw20>>s14]

yeah...i calmed down a little...lol...so read my post ^ with a 3/10th adversity level...it was a very "high>>low" emotional moment so i only saw the cons...however, i still stand by my points, but i guess now its more of observations than gripes...BUT I STILL WANT MY SPANNER WRENCHES!!! AND A MEDIUM SHIRT!!! :hahano: no, seriously...

[defiantmofo]

ya i also didnt get my spanner wrenches. dave gave me his though. If you call them i know they will be more than willing to help you out.

[sw20>>s14]

youre one of the few that have them on their car...its been almost a week for you right?..care to post some feedback/review so far?

[White]

I've got them on my car as well. Initial reaction was that I was in way over my head, but after fooling around and adjusting them for a few days I think they are awesome. Mine did come with the wrenches (although you can just use a screw driver), and also a Medium shirt, but that is entirely defiantmofo's fault as he told Dave that was my size. :) I am wearing the properly sized Origin shirt as I type this.

When I first put them on, and not having any experience with aftermarket suspensions and whatnot, I was slamming the tire into the wheel well (so slammed) and scraping on everything and all this stupid shit. Turns out you definately have to compress the spring when you put them on, not just slap them in, should have listened to Dave a bit more closely. I rolled my fenders in a fit of madness 1/2 way through the process of getting them ready for the street, but I think all you really have to do is preload the springs when you put them on. Be sure to count threads/measure to make sure you are even. I think my fronts are at 10 threads.

I'm not at maximum ride height and the ride is decent for street, no scraping on everything if you keep an eye on the road and keep the adjustment more toward the stiff side. If you have it full soft watch out for hard corners, haha, the noise is embarrasing in public places.

The rear is going to be so negatively cambered it's probably worth investing in some RUCAs, I'll probably be going with BattleVersion because Pfeiffer beasted my car when it was pretty stock and ruined my dreams that I needed a turbo to drift. That is, if Bill (defiantmofo) doesn't drag me to Ohio for some drifting, then I'll grab something random from TF if I can get it aligned this week.

Going from stock suspension to D-Drugs and strut tower bars has made a crazy difference, with the D-Drugs at 50% stiffness the car has almost 0 body roll, if I picked up some sways I'm sure it will be ludicrous. I don't know what else you really want to know about them, but post it up and I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability.

I'll post up pics of my car when I put my Full Battle Mode vinyl back on, Heh.

Update: Oh yeah, the adjustment knob lets you feel every click, haven't had a problem wondering if I clicked or not. I click around in groups of 5 so it's an 8 way, heh. In other news, having your car so slammed creates an intense need for "aero" to go full hovercraft mode, despite the fact that you know you don't drive carefully enough to not have it destroyed immediately in that little trench down the street.

[s134]

great advertising.. makes me wanna sell my other car and current c/os & get these..

[sw20>>s14]

Be sure to count threads/measure to make sure you are even. I think my fronts are at 10 threads.
what do you mean 10 threads up front? 10 threads showing? how is that possible? or 10 threads left? how is that possible? im tired and obviously im not getting it...lol

[White]

what do you mean 10 threads up front? 10 threads showing? how is that possible? or 10 threads left? how is that possible? im tired and obviously im not getting it...lol

The two spinning discs on the tube where the spring is that you use to compress the spring, when you lock them together there are 10 threads between where they lock and the bottom of the threads.

[s0ldats]

i got mine, no spanner wrenches. packed just like sw20 said. they seem like quality parts, haven't gotten to installing them yet.

i kind of miss the dual height adjustability, but we'll see how these perform.

quick question, how do you know when you reach full height? is it to the top of the threads on the shock body?


edit: and another thing, i put the fronts on last night and with camber plates maxed out, it didn't look like i got that much negative camber. i also made sure that the top slotted spindle mount was pushed all the way in as well.

we'll see what the alignment shop says.

[defiantmofo]

I could only get -1.8 degrees of negative camber up front. I was hoping for -2.0, but 1.8 is close enough i suppose. The rear i was at about -3.0. I would definetly suggest RUCAS. As far as the clicks go, i think they have a pretty good feeling to them. Compared to my KONIs on my 350z, which have no clicks, i think they seem fine.

[s0ldats]

wtf is up with the front camber plates

[sw20>>s14]

what did all you guys preload them to? im looking at maximum/full height and just wondering what you guys did it at...did you guys get corrosion/rust/dirt on yours? on one of my fronts, where the bottom of the threads meet the lower perch, theres like this corrosion/rust/dirt in between the last thread and the lower mount...how bout you guys? my buddy told me that thats just the shit that comes out when welding...

[s0ldats]

update: talked to the cool guys at TF. they're sending the spanners out ASAP. great service for sure.

[s0ldats]

update:

fully installed, drove around for a bit on full soft. i love them. a tad on the bouncy side on full soft, i'm going to change those settings ntomorrow and get an alignment.

i'm almost at full height in the rear and about 2 inches to lowest on the front.

tires: 205/50/15 all around.


pics, tomorrow.

[240trainee]

Just got my wrenches today, putting them on hopefully tonight/ tommorrow. gonna be rockin, now my stock teardrop wheels will look even worse, lol. Whatever.

[BOROSUN]

i want to see it fully slammed!... did any one try it?

[240trainee]

Mine are close to fully slammed, about an inch above iirc. they are low as crap, lol. A friend traded me some swazies, gotta get those on the car and then I'll post some pics. My only gripe with them is the fact the camber plates have no degree marks on them. No other problems in my book so far, they ride pretty well imo, at 20 from soft in front and 30 from soft in the back, gonna knock those rates down alittle and see what happens after work. :2f2f: and an alignment, gotta get one, lol

[s0ldats]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/winddrift/DSC05089.jpg


rear at almost full height, but front is pretty low. why? if i put the front to full height, it is wayyyyy higher in the front.

[240trainee]

Dude, rotate that pic. please, lol.

[240trainee]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/240trainee/DSC05089.jpg

There, edited and re-hosted it myself, lol, couldn't stand it.

[s0ldats]

hahahah thanks, i didn't even realize.

[drift9]

what do you guys think about these in comparison with the JIC's im stugling between the 2

[ZoltecRules]

For everyone running aftermarket wheels please list you tire sizes and offset specs. I'm having horrible rubbing up front.

[sw20>>s14]

what do you guys think about these in comparison with the JIC's im stugling between the 2
personally, i would/dont get anything jic now after all the scenarios and reviews ive read/heard...

For everyone running aftermarket wheels please list you tire sizes and offset specs. I'm having horrible rubbing up front.
im running 16x7 +35 ssr reverse mesh with 205/55/17 rear and back...no problem...on dday i ran ssrs out back and 15x7 +35 kosei K1s with 205/50/15...no rubbing...the only thing i rub is the pass. front on my bumper, but thats just cuz i got really jacked up caster...

[SoSideways]

Has anyone gotten stuck on driveways and such from 3-wheelin' action yet?

I am curious as to if a J30 VLSD would get you stuck on pretty steep driveways and such.

Oh, and also, what's the price of these puppies now since the group buy has ended?

[Edgar]

www.tougefactory.com
Or I think you can check out the D Drug website

[KiDyNomiTe]

Has anyone gotten stuck on driveways and such from 3-wheelin' action yet?

I am curious as to if a J30 VLSD would get you stuck on pretty steep driveways and such.

Oh, and also, what's the price of these puppies now since the group buy has ended?

I highly doubt you will get stuck unless you go really slow. If all else fails you should be able to just roll back.

I have 3 wheels before, but have a diff.

[SoSideways]

Well, I have had the J30 diff on my car for like a year now, but obviously I have not been in 3 wheel situations before or else I wouldn't have asked about that.

As for the current price on the D-Drug coilovers on TF's site, I haven't seen it... And D-Drug's site hasn't been updated since sometime in 2004, I just went there and checked. Origin's site don't have anything on their "footwork" section either...

[phreze]

Wow look what I found on the front page! http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=97199&cat=108&

Price is listed as $1050.00

[SoSideways]

Wow look what I found on the front page! http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=97199&cat=108&

Price is listed as $1050.00

It says "not allowed" in bright red, on a white background.

[phreze]

Link was working when I posted. Had that and the origin crystal tail lamps. Try HERE (http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=97199&cat=108&) or the one on the front page .

[SoSideways]

Link was working when I posted. Had that and the origin crystal tail lamps. Try HERE (http://www.tougefactory.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=97199&cat=108&) or the one on the front page .

Works now, but still, that could have been created just for the groupbuy, and as we all know, TF usually takes awhile to update their pages, so for all we know, they could be selling it for more than $1050 by now.

Too bad I'm too lazy to call them and find out.

Somebody needs to call them and find out.....

[unforgiven]

I'm guessing the group buy is over? Will there be another one?

[SoSideways]

I'm guessing the group buy is over? Will there be another one?

Group buy has been over since July 30th according to the first page. And since the $1050 price was the group buy price, a few people were wondering what the new price is and where it is on TF's site, since the only link leading to those coilovers on their site is on the first page of this thread, and once you get to the page it's still the $1050 price...

[phreze]

So try and buy them and see if they will honor the pricing they have advertised! Couldn't hurt.

[Seraphim]

The link works and allows you to purchase them. But then TF will email you telling you the price is $1239 now. Even though the link still works.....and you can go throught the whole purchase process at the GB price...... :down: I emailed them back saying it allowed me to buy them at the advertised price. We will see how much honor they have.

edit for further exp: I was linked to the group buy from somewhere else and never read the first page of this thread saying when the GB ended, but the link worked all the way through and I got an order confirmation email. It will be lame if they still try to charge me retail, but we'll see what happens.

[SoSideways]

Yeah I emailed them after posting here about that.

We shall see if they'll either come in here to explain themselves, finally remove that page, or change the price on that page to reflect the $1239 price.

Oh well, it was a good try... guess it's back to Megan Racing for me....

[s0ldats]

group buy is over, stop trying to weasel TF into giving them to you for so cheap. they're quality parts and that was an introductory price.


specified on the first page of this thread is the ENDING date of the GB.

"This groupbuy will end on July 29th or earlier depending on inventory."

[s0ldats]

I was linked to the group buy from somewhere else and never read the first page of this thread saying when the GB ended,



that's where you're wrong. this gb is only valid through zilvia. should've linked through zilvia huh?


oucccchhh

[Seraphim]

Um I guess you didn't read all of my post, did you? If the GB ended on July 29th then the link shouldn't work. I was able to purchase them in September ffs. It doesn't take a month and a half to disable a link. I know they are quality parts, that's why I bought them.

edit: The person that linked me the GB had to come to Zilvia to get the link, didn't they? :wtf:

[s0ldats]

well obviously they had to get the link from zilvia. it's your responsibility to know all the terms of the gb.


there's a reason why tf only linked that page through zilvia. and on the page they linked it they state: ENDS JUL. 29

[bcrume]

can we please get some reviews now that they have been delivered? Please compare them to whatever you have driven on, dd's, flta2's, megans, whatever...

[sw20>>s14]

theres an additional thread in the chat section...and yes, theyre the shit...dual adjustability, shmual adjustability...super short stroke biatch!

[unforgiven]

IMed them, emailed them, no response. I don't care about the GB price, I was willing to pay retail price, but now that I see what kind of service they have, I think I'll go with silk roads or kts, since tanabe dd's stopped production. Or is there any other company that sells d-drugs?

[phreze]

IMed them, emailed them, no response. I don't care about the GB price, I was willing to pay retail price, but now that I see what kind of service they have, I think I'll go with silk roads or kts, since tanabe dd's stopped production. Or is there any other company that sells d-drugs?

When did you try calling? I have no problem calling them any time they are at work 11am-7pm Central time. Once or twice it will be busy but I just give it 15 mins and try again. They also get containers in from japan that they have to unload and look through so they dont always get to the phone while chest deep in aero kits.

Try hitting them up on aim to they are on during store hours.

[unforgiven]

tried calling them twice, the phone line is busy or cut off, emailed them, imed them. nothing. i give up. if it takes that much work to get an answer from them, i imagine how they'll treat me after i hand over the money. fuck that, ill buy from someone else.

[phreze]

Strange, I went there today to pick up a test pipe for my car and they where there.

[unforgiven]

Ok. Called again today. Finally got an answer, they don't have d-drug's, and the tanabe dd's were discontinued. :(

[SoSideways]

So are the D-Drug coilovers a special order type deal? And they're definitely selling them at the $1239 price right?

So yeah, any reviews yet from the people that have put their's on and most likely have been to a couple of events by now...?

[ZoltecRules]

Most of the Chicago D-Drug users went out this weekend for our first event with the new coilovers on. I think all of us agree that they are AWESOME.

[unforgiven]

Damn. Is there any other place to get D-Drug's from? My other choice would be sustec pro dd's but those are out of production. tougefactory said they don't have them anymore, so I don't think they have them for 1239

[defiantmofo]

Ya, Zoltec, White, and myself all ran DDrugs at the event this weekend. I feel they were simply outstanding. Great grip and control when i wanted it, but i was able to put the end out and keep control throughout the drift. These made it alot easier for me to be consistent corner to corner. I went with the 10/8 spring rate which some say would be to stiff, however i think it really rocked on the track. Would i daily drive with them? Yes, but i dont really care about how they ride i care about how they perform. I rode with Zoltec who has 8/6 and it seemed very similar, not much of a difference in stiffness. I have a hatch, and with stock rims the back will bounce with no weight in the back from the stripped interior and just how light the 240 is. I would strongly suggest getting some 17inch rims with low profile tires, which will eliminate the bounce created by the higher profile tire "flexing". I ran with stock rims for a couple weeks, until my FN01RCs came in, and it made a huge difference. The downside is because they are so low even at close to their highest setting, you will need to flatten the piece of metal at the top of the wheel well. My FN01RCs are 17x8 +35. I did not get as much negative camber out of the fronts as i wanted, but -1.8 is close enough for me. The backs however will be close to -3.0 with stock Rear Upper Control Arms (RUCAs). You will need RUCAs. The camber was way to far off to simply leave it. The clicks are frim and definetly noticable. Yes they are 40way adjustable, but i just make my clicks 5 at a time so their 8way. No real big deal, but there is definetly a difference from 10, 20, 30, 40. That's my quick and dirty. Rob and Dave at TF are great and always willing to help you out and answer your questions.