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trucker
04-11-2002, 11:50 PM
want to put 305 in 1990 240sx can it be down with after market kits or do you have to make them

bgzee
04-11-2002, 11:55 PM
Good god... why would you want to put a 350 in a 240sx? First of all, it would offset the balance of the car terribly and you would have no handling what so ever.  Second, it would take a ton of custom fabrication, no doubt you would have to pound out the firewall...   It's really not even worth the time and money to try... If you want more power, invest in an sr20det.
-Brian

Jeff240sx
04-12-2002, 12:02 AM
Not only what he said, but... there is a fine art of making huge power out of a 4-cylinder engine.  This is a really respectable thing to do.  Anyone with a wrench and some big carbs can dump fuel into a v8 and make power.
If you did that swap... the whole balance of the refinement of the car will be thrown out the window.  
You wanna swap a v8 into something... go buy a Fiero!
-Jeff

DSC
04-12-2002, 12:18 AM
Swapping v8's into 240 and 280zx's is pretty popular.  And kits are readily avilable for them.  Check out Z home (http://www.zhome.com) or Z Car (http://www.zcar.com/) for more info on all that.  With the position of the 240's engine bay in comparison with the front wheels, I don't think a V8 would be a very good idea, for the reasons stated in the above posts.  However you could get a low displacement v6 or i6 and put that in there, without hurting weight distro too much and give more potential than a 4 (in theory).

LanceS13
04-12-2002, 01:28 AM
IIRC, the iron KA weighs almost 500lbs.  I bet you can get a small block V8 around 550lbs.  That's a battery relocation and CF/FG hood away from the original weight distribution.  hell, the weight of your gas tank varies that much.  

I mean, not to say I'd do it, but some of you guys seem to think even mentioning a V8 is one of the seven deadly sins.

I would applaud anyone who could pull it off and make it work for them...especially if they manage a 50/50 ratio via weight re-distribution. &nbsp;In the end, with any custom fabrication, weight re-distribution, engine uprages, etc., it would probably end up costing the same as a well-built turbo i-4...but it'd be different to say the least. &nbsp;The V8 would have more torque and more potential to boot. &nbsp;I still wanna see someone stick a V8 in the backseat just for the hell of it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's kind of a neat idea to play with.

jskim9
04-12-2002, 01:36 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">IIRC, the iron KA weighs almost 500lbs. I bet you can get a small block V8 around 550lbs. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
um... no... the KA doesn't weigh over 1/6th the entire weight of the car. I forget how much exactly, but I think it was around 250-300lbs with all the toys attached to it. I believe the mustang 4.6L engine weighs around 450-500lbs

and I'm sure you could figure out a way to put a chevy 305 in there if you really want. Almost anything is possible. It'll be a lot of work. If it's really that important to you go for it. You'll most likely have clearance issue on the hood, so you might have to lower your subframe, rework your steering, stiffen the suspension, etc etc... that's a lot of work... a lot of money...

adey
04-12-2002, 01:53 AM
I wouldn't say it's one of the 7 deadly sins; we know what all those are... this is just the 8th. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;

I know putting V8s into RX7s is a popular thing among those who have no respect for the rotary... needless to say, they get their arses flamed to a glowing ember... <g> I say they deserve it.
240 though? it's fair game I suppose- after all we still have cylinders and pistons in our SR20s. It's just something I wouldn't necessarily do!

I have to agree w/ lances13 though, an M/R V8 240 would be an interesting car-- to say the least!

DuffMan
04-12-2002, 02:02 AM
Why would anyone want to put a chevy 305 in anything? It's not a small engine. Its the same size as the 350 and its many stroked varients, and probably weighs more because smaller bore = more metal.

A ford 302 would probably be the best American V8 swap for the 240sx.

Grant
04-12-2002, 05:15 AM
I believe someone has posted here of a LS-1 swap in an S13, used for track racing (not drag). I think the LS-1 motor is a good motor to go with with since (IIRC) it has an aluminum block, which helps the weight balance a bit.

NOSfEDs12vh45dett
04-12-2002, 06:30 AM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, LS-1 is a good motor but, come on Nissan think Nissan, they're the best, VH41DE stick that in, you'll never regret it trust me................



VH41DE baby, turn it up, 450 hp go for it.......

BEISSEN
04-12-2002, 07:03 AM
The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.

wherezmytofu
04-12-2002, 08:20 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/weight_of_the_ka24de.htm

ca18guy
04-12-2002, 09:41 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 13 2002,02:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmmm which one would be cheaper? The V8 by far. Which one has a bigger aftermarket? A V8 (depending on model of course) &nbsp;Plus you would be able to set the majority of a V8 closer to the firewall then a I-6, so it will mantain everyone's precious weight ratio <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;Personnally it I think it's a great idea, I'd rather do it to a 240Z (cause it wieghs less and i like the looks better, and there are kits) And to answer his question, yes you would have to make your own kit.

Aries
04-12-2002, 11:06 AM
I have an LS1 from a 2001 SS Camaro sitting arround the shop...

Which would be better to try this on...
An S-13 or an S-14?

I think it would be great to be putting 350 hp on the ground in a automatic LS1 powered 240.
Can we say 11's on motor?

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

Kreator
04-12-2002, 11:46 AM
This might be controversial, but a japanese car with a v8 doesn't sound right to me.

LanceS13
04-12-2002, 02:16 PM
Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

wherezmytofu
04-12-2002, 03:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,4:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WITH!!!!....how about the vh45de, vh41de, vk45de !!!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> ...ur soooooo dead! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Kreator
04-12-2002, 03:17 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,4:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,4:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WITH!!!!....how about the vh45de, vh41de, vk45de !!!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> ...ur soooooo dead! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
God damnit. I knew someone would interpret that wrong. I'm not saying that there are no japanese v8s. I'm just saying that it doesn't sound right to me. Meaning I DON'T LIKE V8S IN JAPANESE CARS. Thats all my statement meant. And that's my opinion. And as i said, it's controversial. Someone might think otherwise.

twofortysx
04-12-2002, 05:30 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--BEISSEN+April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/weight_of_the_ka24de.htm</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
May '02 SCC stated the weight of the KA at 493, and the SR + tranny is 490.

- Matt

whateverjames
04-12-2002, 06:26 PM
just remember, as silly as it sounds to some of you, "putting an american v8 in an import", sounds the same to an american car owner "i'm going to turbo my 2.4L four cylinder" or "i'm going to swap out my engine for turbo four cylinder with even less displacement for $5,000 installed!" we'd sound retarded telling a v8 guy that stuff. but it's stuff they don't understand. and if you don't understand why someone loves v8's and wants to put one in a 240sx, then you just need ta shush it.

edit: i spelled retarded wrong &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

wherezmytofu
04-12-2002, 06:39 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (twofortysx @ April 11 2002,7:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/weight_of_the_ka24de.htm</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
May '02 SCC stated the weight of the KA at 493, and the SR + tranny is 490.

- Matt</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
like i said...engine or engine + tranny...i guess he ment engine + tranny

240meowth
04-12-2002, 06:45 PM
why talk 'bout weight? &nbsp;just push the engine further back into the firewall to give you the perfect weight distribution... again that's $$$$$$$ &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

on the other hand, japanese cars can go w/ v8, like the toyota trucks/suv &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

slow_accord
04-12-2002, 07:20 PM
I don't know about a V8, but I think it would be cool to swap in a 13b from an FD! &nbsp;Stick a single turbo on there and boom you have an engine that weighs less than 300lbs. and puts out over 350hp. &nbsp;The only problem is you would have to replace it every 70,000 miles, but that's beside the point &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Aries
04-12-2002, 07:22 PM
Just got home from the shop, and with a little relocation of some of the junk (power steering pump and break fluid reservoir) the LS1 will drop in easily and require only some custom fabricated mounts.

I'm gonna go ahead and try this one, so I'll let you guys know how it turns out...

roast
04-12-2002, 09:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ April 12 2002,8:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just remember, as silly as it sounds to some of you, "putting an american v8 in an import", sounds the same to an american car owner "i'm going to turbo my 2.4L four cylinder" or "i'm going to swap out my engine for turbo four cylinder with even less displacement for $5,000 installed!" we'd sound retarded telling a v8 guy that stuff. but it's stuff they don't understand. and if you don't understand why someone loves v8's and wants to put one in a 240sx, then you just need ta shush it.

edit: i spelled retarded wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They're are some 2.3L Turbo mustangs running around pulling 11s 1/4mi's... &nbsp; Dodge has a turbo kit for most of they're 4 cylinder motors... ... &nbsp;

Spirit R/T or Daytona R/T from 1991 to 1992 had 224 hp from a 2.2...

240sxracer
04-12-2002, 09:29 PM
i think i am sticking with turboing my sohc but the thought of putting a v8 in the 240 has crossed my mind numerous times.
your 240 will definately be a sleeper i would love to see the face of a honda or mustang owner when you beat them with ease. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

misnomer
04-12-2002, 10:02 PM
My God people, pull your heads out. It's OK to prefer not to have a v8 in your 240sx, but to go and flame somebody who does is ludicrous. A fast car is a fast car, and I garuntee you'd be impressed to see an 11 second 240sx, even if it has a "piece of shit low tech American engine in it."

As far as handling goes, putting the wieght ratio from 53/47 (stock) to 56/44 won't effect handling as much as y'all would hope. Some proper tweaking and it'll handle with the best of them.

MyFirst240SX
04-12-2002, 11:01 PM
I think those Turbo 4 banger mustangs yall where talking about where Called SVO's. &nbsp;They were fast as hell but they Broke down, i think they cost a coulple grand more than GT's and smoked GT's like woooo. &nbsp;i think they pushed 300hp stock.

Call me stupid but isn't the 4 banger tranny kinda small compared to a V8 tranny that might present a small problem, a little bit of custom fabricating could make it fit im sure tho.

Im sure a 240SX with a turbocharged 350 with Nitrous would pretty much impress me=))))))

NOSfEDs12vh45dett
04-13-2002, 05:05 AM
yo MyFirst240SX
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im sure a 240SX with a turbocharged 350 with Nitrous would pretty much impress me</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

How about a VH45DETT producting 790 hp without NOS fitted yet, but alas we don't get the 240sx, so 200sx will have to do.
Well now it's actually got two superchargers now........

As for the Tranny, geez Supra got one of the best(The only time I ever give praise to a T To T Toy T T T gee I can't say in a compliment), yep go full hog, I have a Holianger but alas these things cost money...................................(in NZD $4,000 in USD $1,700, for the Gertrag, and $12,000NZD in USD $5,600 for the Holianger).

junia
04-13-2002, 05:59 AM
Hey if you want to throw a V8 into your 240sx by all means, do it. &nbsp;I would like to see something different sometimes because to me a SR swap isn't really a crazy mod because to me, its not really a big modification. &nbsp;If I was going to go V8, I would go all out and go V8+twin turbo+NOS. &nbsp;I wonder if thats possible? &nbsp;It has to be HKS made a supra with a twin turbo v8 supra. &nbsp;Anythings possible.

drifterX87
04-13-2002, 07:22 AM
why do that? &nbsp;The supra already comes with a Super-powerplant engine capable of toasting some of the fastest american cars. &nbsp;In Japan, all of the touring supras I-6's are replaced with the teeny celica engines. &nbsp;They still pack a shitload punch. &nbsp;V8? &nbsp;In a 240? &nbsp;wouldnt that defy the cars main purpose? &nbsp;Turning? &nbsp;I mean, if you want to have a jeep haul you around the turns it would be ok. &nbsp;Well just my 02.

Mike

roast
04-13-2002, 08:25 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MyFirst240SX @ April 13 2002,01:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think those Turbo 4 banger mustangs yall where talking about where Called SVO's. They were fast as hell but they Broke down, i think they cost a coulple grand more than GT's and smoked GT's like woooo. i think they pushed 300hp stock.
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...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually, I was refering to low budget 1/4 mi rockets. &nbsp;Yes there are SVO stangs that were turbo'd but this isnt what i was refering to. &nbsp;Some guys buy the 2.3L stang, instead of getting the v8 swap, they turbo, parts are easy enough to find, and easy to install... (SVO, Tubrocoupes etc... ) &nbsp;and of course they would use the notchback, instead of the heavier hatch (GT)...

Tuck&Poke
04-13-2002, 10:09 AM
i say stick that damn v8 in there and twin turbo that sucker and then see what all the people think of their precious weight distribution when your pushing over 1000hp <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> . &nbsp;i would swap in that v8 in a heart beat if i could...but id go for something newer and more advanced although those old muscle cars made crazy hp with their 10.5 compression ratios. &nbsp;and they sound so sweet. &nbsp;and yes i remember that v8 s13 that they used for track...i belive it was a coupe. &nbsp;with some suspension mods and battery relocation and mounting it as far back as possible, maybe a cf hood and fenders your weight distibution would be prefect once again. &nbsp;and if not f* it and just use it as a drag racer or a sleeper <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

MyFirst240SX
04-13-2002, 01:45 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drifterX87 @ April 12 2002,09:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
"The supra already comes with a Super-powerplant engine capable of toasting some of the fastest american cars. "

Everyone has to give the mad props on straight line to V8. &nbsp;big dumb but much more powerfull engines in the long run.
People can pull mad amounts of power from japanese 6's but i think for the same amount money put into a big block, the big block would make more power. &nbsp;thats Just meeeeeee thoo. &nbsp;i just got back from the drag strip the other night watching Big blocks drag is awesome.

mbs13
04-14-2002, 09:46 AM
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/index.html
http://www.hybridz.com

These sites have alot of info on V8 swaps into imports.

mrfly
04-14-2002, 12:46 PM
Personally I wouldn't do it. But you got to do what you got to do. And if that is what you want, and get it done right then that would be great. What year 240 are you planning this in?

bgzee
04-14-2002, 02:12 PM
If putting an 8-cyl motor into asian cars were more practical, im sure more people would do it... you can pick up a 350 anywhere. &nbsp;The fact is that its not practical, you could spend the time and money into making your existing 4 cyl motor faster and would probably be happier with the end result. &nbsp;Anyway, one reason I like imports is because they are fast AND fuel efficient.

drift into a curb
04-14-2002, 03:42 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (slow_accord @ April 12 2002,8:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know about a V8, but I think it would be cool to swap in a 13b from an FD! Stick a single turbo on there and boom you have an engine that weighs less than 300lbs. and puts out over 350hp. The only problem is you would have to replace it every 70,000 miles, but that's beside the point <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Why would you have to replace it every 70k miles? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> I think there is a misconception with dumbasses that don't know how to take care of their rx7s... as I don't think you know much about rotaries... Change the oil more often, replace your seals every 60-70k miles and get the regular check ups and a 13b would be running smooth.

slow_accord
04-14-2002, 05:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift into a curb @ April 14 2002,4:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why would you have to replace it every 70k miles? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> I think there is a misconception with dumbasses that don't know how to take care of their rx7s... as I don't think you know much about rotaries... Change the oil more often, replace your seals every 60-70k miles and get the regular check ups and a 13b would be running smooth.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Whatever man, go over to www.rx7forum.com and ask how long turbo 13b's last. &nbsp;There is NO way around it, there are people on there who have done everything they can to get the most life out of their motor and they usually don't last past 90-100k miles.

My best friend has an FD and he just replaced his engine at about 105k miles which seems like quite a bit of mileage compared to others I've seen. &nbsp;He and the previous owner took excellent care of the engine with very frequent (every 2k miles) oil changes.

N/A rotaries on the other hand are very reliable and will last a very long time with little maintenance, but add forced induction (at least 12-14 lbs of boost) and it's a different story. &nbsp;Try to find me a case where an FD engine has lasted longer than 130k miles. &nbsp;Obviously, your the one that doesn't know much about rotaries.

drift into a curb
04-14-2002, 08:16 PM
Actually I know someone with a FD pushing 120k miles, running perfectly fine, also another friend with a Turbo II pushing 130k miles without any problems. &nbsp;Have you ever owned a FC or an FD? &nbsp;As a previous turbo II owner, I can speak from experience. &nbsp;I must guess that you haven't as you've only read from www.rx7forum.com. &nbsp;Sure the 13b has it's problems, (overheating, blown seals, leaking hoses, etc etc.) but mostly because of the owners fault to not properly maintain the car. &nbsp;Next time, please don't run your mouth off anymore then it has.

ledzep
04-14-2002, 08:41 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift into a curb @ April 14 2002,9:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually I know someone with a FD pushing 120k miles, running perfectly fine, also another friend with a Turbo II pushing 130k miles without any problems. Have you ever owned a FC or an FD? As a previous turbo II owner, I can speak from experience. I must guess that you haven't as you've only read from www.rx7forum.com. Sure the 13b has it's problems, (overheating, blown seals, leaking hoses, etc etc.) but mostly because of the owners fault to not properly maintain the car. Next time, please don't run your mouth off anymore then it has.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I have known guys who took incredible care of their FD's, and still had to replace the engine at 70k. &nbsp;You cant deny the majority of them go boom, and its not always cause the guy didnt care for it. &nbsp;There are exceptions for sure, but sooner or later that engine is gonna go, as will the Apexi seals on the turbos.

misnomer
04-14-2002, 09:01 PM
uh, what's a FD? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Seriously, what does this have to do with v8s? Take your arguing to messages and stay on topic peoples :-)

junia
04-14-2002, 09:40 PM
You know, the guys not asking everyones opinion on whether he should install a v8 or not. &nbsp;If the guy wants to drop a v8 into his car and make it work that more power to him. &nbsp;He's got his own reasons on why he wants to drop a v8 in his car. &nbsp;Maybe he has one laying around in the garage or something. &nbsp;Also, somebody said that it was inpractical to have a v8 in a Japanese, why is that. &nbsp;I know alot of Japanese cars that have v8's in them. &nbsp;I know alot of them that had v8's in them for a long time. &nbsp;I just notice that alot of them don't end up in the states, and my guess is that its because there are already numerous vehicle in the states with v8's. &nbsp;It's not inpractical to have a v8 in a Japanese car, its impractical to try and compete against all the other v8's that are already here and have been around for decades. &nbsp;People act like its a sin if you want to throw anything other than a SR or an RB engine into the 240sx, and to me that just sounds ignorant. &nbsp;You don't see people get flamed when they throw a 12A or a 13B in a Datsun 510 or a Toyota Starlet do you? &nbsp;People even throw VG30 engines into a 240sx and I don't see anybody getting flamed for that, so whats wrong with 2 more cylinder.

slow_accord
04-15-2002, 12:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift into a curb @ April 14 2002,9:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually I know someone with a FD pushing 120k miles, running perfectly fine, also another friend with a Turbo II pushing 130k miles without any problems. Have you ever owned a FC or an FD? As a previous turbo II owner, I can speak from experience. I must guess that you haven't as you've only read from www.rx7forum.com. Sure the 13b has it's problems, (overheating, blown seals, leaking hoses, etc etc.) but mostly because of the owners fault to not properly maintain the car. Next time, please don't run your mouth off anymore then it has.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Like I said before, find me someone with over 130k miles on a 13b from an FD. &nbsp;Turbo II's are different because they don't run enough boost to harm the engine. &nbsp;I truly do love RX-7's, but as much as you want to deny it, 13b's running decent amounts of boost blow up. &nbsp;That's it, I'm not arguing anymore. &nbsp;Have a nice day.

LanceS13
04-15-2002, 12:49 PM
People!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>
Enough with rotary reliability or lack thereof crap...Please!

slow_accord
04-15-2002, 12:58 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 15 2002,1:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">People!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>
Enough with rotary reliability or lack thereof crap...Please!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'm really sorry, I didn't mean to get so off topic. &nbsp;

Back to the original topic though, I think a V8 in a 240sx would be really cool and would be a monster at the strip. &nbsp;I would personally go the KA-T route though.

drift into a curb
04-15-2002, 01:24 PM
Sorry to get off topic. &nbsp;I agree it would be cool to drop in the v8 with some work. &nbsp;Hey, it could be fun right? &nbsp;And of course original. &nbsp;Hope to see where this v8 240sx thing goes... Keep us posted