Coilover question again. Maybe chassis?

[JDMs13]

With my HE's bottomed out in the height adjustment in the rear, the left side sits lower than the right. I am able to get the top of the tire flush with the fender on the left side, but on the right side, I can almost fit my hand under there. At first I thought there was maybe grime in the threads, so I took it off and cleaned it up with wire brush and wd-40. Unfortunatley, thats not the case. I dont know what to think. The car has never been hit in the rear or anything, and nothing underneath looks bent. What do you guys think?


-Greg

[JDMs13]

Im gonna go swap the left with the right and see if changes anything. If it doesnt, my guess would be a tweaked chassis.

[DJPimpFlex]

or your setting up your coilovers wrong. Also tire pressure matters.

[infinitexsound]

daymn beat me too it.............. tire pressure..

[YucA]

why not just measure the height of the center-most part of the fender well to the floor...

[JDMs13]

I did that, but if the car is sitting to high on one side because of the coilover, than that measurment doesnt mean anything.

[supracrazy]

yea this is sorta changing the topic but my car doesnt have coilovers but kyb agx with tein springs and even before the spring and shock setup the right rear was lower than the left rear. I wanted to know what it could be? I was thinking it was one of my bushings in my rear suspention because also when i turn right hard the car feels starange. could it be the subframe? It doesnt seem like it because it would happen when turning left too.
please help me out!

[vinhisbored]

Maybe your tires are worn more? I don't know, try going to a tire shop, they could probably tell you.

[JDMs13]

GO TO A TIRE SHOP TO SEE IF MY TIRES ARE WORN!! holy shit. I have nothing more to say. :smash:

[JDMs13]

Bump. Bump. Bump.

[JDMs13]

Anybody ever have a similar problem they were able to fix without going to a frame shop.

[JDMs13]

Or by purchasing coilovers that give me more than 2-3 inches of adjustment in the rear.

[JDMs13]

BUMP :mrmeph: 's

[JDMs13]

If you think about it, the only thing that would cause that kind of chassis tweak would be a lift mishap or something along those lines. If it was hit, which it wasnt, then it wouldnt be ride height that would be affected. Well, most likely not ride hide.

:wtf:

[Chernobyl]

S13 is heavier on the left side than the right, due to exhaust and a few other things. Driver sits on right side in Japan, so (rumor has it) they made that side a little higher to compensate.

Crank up your left side coilover to the same height as the right side and deal with it.

PS: Quit bumping your own thread every hour. Fuckin annoying.

[aznpoopy]

did you install them with the full rear in the air ,or one at a time with one side on the ground?

do you have a rear sway bar? how did you install it?

[JDMs13]

Stock sway bar, coilovers were already in car when purchased. This is more than the weight of the exhaust or whatever else you said. Driver doesnt have to be in car for problem to occur. Dont read my thread if I annoy you chernobyl. You had no good input towards my question, and that my friend, is fuckin annoying. Almost like the dude who said tire pressure or wear could be my problem. This is more like an inch that I have to compensate for on the other three corners.

[JDMs13]

When I took out to inspect the second time, both were installed with full rear in the air. First time around, individually.

[90RS13]

Do HE's have seperate coil perch, and over-all height, adjustments? If they do, then one of the spring perches could be set different than the other.

[JDMs13]

Ride height adjustment is independent of spring preload. No matter how much preload I have on the spring, the ride height stays the same.

[JDMs13]

Bump Bump Bump

[JDMs13]

Bah, this place sucks. Tech is flooded with stupid ass, non technical questions, and everybody posts in those, not even to contribute anything, just to say whatever. It never used to be like this, what the fuck happened. You dont even see the hardcore zilvians on the board anymore, not like you used to. Most likely, because they got sick of this shit, and decided to yard out till the coast clears.

[Ritz S14]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/co.jpg

Measure the #1, and compare on both sides. Then measure #2, and compare on both sides.

[Var]

Bah, this place sucks. Tech is flooded with stupid ass, non technical questions, and everybody posts in those, not even to contribute anything, just to say whatever. It never used to be like this, what the fuck happened. You dont even see the hardcore zilvians on the board anymore, not like you used to. Most likely, because they got sick of this shit, and decided to yard out till the coast clears.


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares2.jpg

Stop your whining.

[yudalicious]

Ride height adjustment is independent of spring preload. No matter how much preload I have on the spring, the ride height stays the same.

might want to get your facts straight before you complain... and secondly, people sitting at a computer hundreds of miles away just based on coupla sentences of hastily typed words WON'T always be able to figure out what's wrong.

[JDMs13]

Bro, my facts are straight. Do you have HE's. Then you are aware of how ride height is adjusted then, correct? Anyways, I tried messing with spring preload just for shits and giggles, and was not succesful at all. On a side not, with jack stands under my frame rails in the rear, my right tire hovers 12 inches above the ground, while my left tire hovers 10 inches off the ground. That is with ride height eqaul when sitting.....before it was lifted onto equal height stands.


-Greg

[Wei240]

man, just post pics...

[nlzmo400r]

your house is sinking on one side

[!Zar!]

If your chassis was tweaked wouldnt've you noticed it before the coilover install? Have an alignment shop check it out and save the head pain.

[JDMs13]

^^not in particular. When the car is up on a lift, everything appears to be straight and true. appears. I dunno, pretty soon Im gonna go get it checked out on a laser frame machine I think. I want my shit dumped, that is why this is such a problem for me.

[HitAndRunCrew]

Hey, this is just my opinion and I speak from experience. I have dealt with almost every type of coilover combo on the Japanese market. I have Tein HE's on my S14 right now and they were brand new when I installed them last week. I set them up exactly the same on both sides of the rear before I installed them and the same thing. One side of my car is lower was then the other. It has been like that everytime I have installed coilovers on my different cars and customers cars through out the last couple of years. There are too many different things it could be. It could be your rear member bushings, camber, toe, weight, your car could be bent, or the most important one your suspension. You said it was on your car when you bought it. So maybe since it is used maybe one shock is a litte more worn out then the other. I know 2 inches is alot of difference, so I would imagine that it could be one of your shocks ( I could tell you how to tell if they are blown) or your bushings. ( I could tell you how to tell if they are fuked too if you need to know) but if your Suspension is okay, As long as you set up the springs on both side to the same height and adjust the bottom part to level out your car. You'll be fine...you can drop it all the way to the ground with 19"s if you want with HE's. If you want proof let me know...I have pics...and it should ride fine...

Let me know if you have any other problems with them...Dave

[JDMs13]

Most informative post yet. Thank you dave. You have had the same problem in the past huh? I have solid aluminum inserts in my subframe if that makes a difference. I was thinking that maybe a bushing elswhere in the subframe has collapsed....I dunno? I have an energy suspension master kit, so this winter I will be able to eliminate one possible culprit.

What are you doing in Japan you lucky bastard. You rippin' that touge on a nightly basis or what?

[HitAndRunCrew]

Most informative post yet. Thank you dave. You have had the same problem in the past huh? I have solid aluminum inserts in my subframe if that makes a difference. I was thinking that maybe a bushing elswhere in the subframe has collapsed....I dunno? I have an energy suspension master kit, so this winter I will be able to eliminate one possible culprit.

What are you doing in Japan you lucky bastard. You rippin' that touge on a nightly basis or what?

Thanks man...right now I am just gathering engines..I have imported a container full of SR20'S twice before and I am doing it again. I broke my wrist, so right now I am just cruising my Toyota BB. Hopefully next week, I will be driving the 5spd again...

[JDMs13]

Do you speak the language, or do you just manage to get by?

[yudalicious]

no, I don't have the HEs, and yes I know how it works, and that's why I said get your facts straight before you complain (and before you start "rippin the touge.") FYI, this is what you said:
"No matter how much preload I have on the spring, the ride height stays the same." Actually adjusting the preload does affect ride height, you have to adjust the bottom mounting bracket to balance it out so ride height stays the same. Now either you didn't know that, or you have problems expressing your ride height problem so everyone else can understand completely, good day sir.

Bro, my facts are straight. Do you have HE's. Then you are aware of how ride height is adjusted then, correct? Anyways, I tried messing with spring preload just for shits and giggles, and was not succesful at all. On a side not, with jack stands under my frame rails in the rear, my right tire hovers 12 inches above the ground, while my left tire hovers 10 inches off the ground. That is with ride height eqaul when sitting.....before it was lifted onto equal height stands.


-Greg

[JDMs13]

I like the good day sir bit at the end. Its the only thing keeping me from being mad at you right now. Again, I will repeat. With the Tein HE dampner....ride height is independant of spring preload. No matter how little or how much preload the spring sees, ride height will stay the same. I took preload off of the spring, and was able to bottom it out by pushing on the trunk. Added preload, ride height stayed the same. So yea broo' get your facts straight maan.

[HitAndRunCrew]

Do you speak the language, or do you just manage to get by?

I can speak car, and that is all I need to know..lol

[yudalicious]

you should read my comment again.. anyway the point was that don't blame it on the people when it's hard to tell a problem when all they're going by is a coupla sentences.

[JDMs13]

Yes I understand what your saying. But the couple of sentences that I spoke, explained the problem clearly. I was just flustered because kids who post stupid ass shit always get tons of replies, then a legitimate thread like mine needs to be bumped a bajillion times to get noticed.

[rps13turbo]

i have that same problem but with my front suspension.My right front sits lower than the driver side and ive i adjusted my coilovers over and over and no matter what it sits the same.