View Full Version : ssautochrome retop intercooler?
clean
07-05-2005, 04:08 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7984724348&category=33742
on ebay and found this. from the pics i figured it was a "hybrid" brand found everywhere on ebay, but ss says it's thier own design :jerkit: . bidding starts @ $300, $50 for shipping. thinking i might bid. was gonna just a jonnyracecar and have piping made, but that gonna cost more than $350. anyone seen this yet, just curious and thought i'd post it
BoostInnovations
07-05-2005, 05:13 PM
SS autochrome is shit...itll fall apart...their turbos even crack
caall99
07-05-2005, 05:13 PM
get it! it looks good! i got a hybrid style intercooler kit just like that one and i couldn't be happier. i paid 464 shipped.
sr240mike
07-05-2005, 08:51 PM
It IS the Hybrid intercooler kit, just a few hundred $$ less. It is a very big intercooler.
mbmbmb23
07-05-2005, 08:58 PM
It IS the Hybrid intercooler kit, just a few hundred $$ less. It is a very big intercooler.
http://www.carolinanissans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3862
mbmbmb23
07-05-2005, 09:00 PM
...........was gonna just a jonnyracecar and have piping made, but that gonna cost more than $350. anyone seen this yet, just curious and thought i'd post it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=photo&item=7984814025&category=33742
WILDACEX187
07-05-2005, 09:26 PM
damn that is big. sacrificing alot of response there.
SOUTHSTAR
07-05-2005, 11:15 PM
What size is that hot side piping????
It looks small as hell.
DrtyRat
07-05-2005, 11:35 PM
damn that is big. sacrificing alot of response there.
I have a hybrid( i think its 24x12x3) and while i have absolutely no prob w/the quality i have to agree w/ACE about the response....i have boost coming on about 500-700 rpm later now....however thats a great price for the whole kit
BoostInnovations
07-06-2005, 12:28 AM
the only thing i can say about slow response is get a bigger turbo and then its justified
the response isn't that bad..same as getting any other FMIC.
WILDACEX187
07-06-2005, 01:16 AM
the only thing i can say about slow response is get a bigger turbo and then its justified
somebody correct me if im wrong but doesnt bigger turbo=SLOWER response? :loco:
yes..and he's saying the only way to justify slower response is to have more power in return. Like by getting a bigger turbo. This leads me to believe he's never been open lapping with a turbo car with a sidemount and experienced heatsoak
sepulchral
07-06-2005, 01:41 AM
LOL what a piece of shit.... enjoy having the welds on your endtanks being blown off at 10psi.... spend a couple hundred more and get greddy... ssauto=shit shit shit shit
180InProgress
07-06-2005, 01:47 AM
I have no quarrels with SSAutoChrome. I got a "Apex'I N1" full catback exhaust from them for $260 shipped. I got it in 5 days with tracking. It's a knock off from some company called Motoria, but sounds great and gave me a pretty good boost with the 3" piping and free test pipe. I would say get it, judging by my experience with the exhaust, but however, the turbo does have moving parts.... My philosophy with Ebay parts from unkown manufacturers is: if it has moving parts that could ultimately fail, then don't buy it. Although the piping and intercooler might be a steal at that price. They do take care in their packaging and judging by the welds on my exhaust the quality is there.... just not the brand name.... which, if it makes it fast and is still safe.... then who :gives:
ohnobigtdawg
07-06-2005, 02:07 AM
ssautochrome=shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BoostInnovations
07-06-2005, 04:50 AM
yes..and he's saying the only way to justify slower response is to have more power in return. Like by getting a bigger turbo. This leads me to believe he's never been open lapping with a turbo car with a sidemount and experienced heatsoak
nope never open lapping but i have experienced heatsoak on my FMIC on my DSM...and seen it even more especially on sidemounts when people try to run 20psi through a stock IC...
projectRDM
07-06-2005, 09:21 AM
You guys talking shit about SSA have nothing to base that on except the people complaining about outsourced parts from years ago.
Everything they've been stocking and selling for the past year or so is way better product from better suppliers. And the broken turbo everyone cries about was an XS Power turbo, not an SSA. SSA sold some of their stuff for awhile until they had complaints.
If you bought a Greddy part from heavythrottle and it had issues, would you criticize heavythrottle? No, you'd criticize Greddy, it was their product that failed.
Give the blame where it's due. Their stuff is great for the money and will last just as long as anything else if you install and use it correctly. It's the people who don't run exhaust hangers and drive over parking lot curbs who break manifolds. And they're the ones crying about it later on and filling everyone's heads.
caall99
07-06-2005, 04:42 PM
my SSAutochrome/Motoria 3 inch exhaust is a beauty. AMAZING! only thing i have complaints about is the crappy silencer. sounds better without one anyway...
180InProgress
07-06-2005, 09:06 PM
my SSAutochrome/Motoria 3 inch exhaust is a beauty. AMAZING! only thing i have complaints about is the crappy silencer. sounds better without one anyway...
I agree With that one, sounds freakin tight..... and pisses off the neighbors. :hitit:
Flybert
07-07-2005, 01:55 AM
I have this FMIC and the quality of it is very nice. I like the endtank welds as well as the internal fin design. I just installed it this week but the car isn't running yet. I'll give an update as to the performance of it. All I know is that after heatsoaking my SMIC numerous times at the track, I'm really looking forward to this thing.
WILDACEX187
07-07-2005, 01:57 AM
I have this FMIC and the quality of it is very nice. I like the endtank welds as well as the internal fin design. I just installed it this week but the car isn't running yet. I'll give an update as to the performance of it. All I know is that after heatsoaking my SMIC numerous times at the track, I'm really looking forward to this thing.
did u have to remove ur bumper support to put this ic?
Flybert
07-07-2005, 02:06 AM
My setup is completely custom and required tons of fabrication. My FMIC sits right in front of my radiator in the AC condensor location.
If I were to put it in the normal FMIC location, it would definitely require a lot of trimming of the bumper support.
boosteds13
07-07-2005, 12:54 PM
spend a couple hundred more and get greddy... ssauto=shit shit shit shit
Yeah, because everyone knows tube/fin > bar and plate :ughd:
IC cores have dropped DRASTICALLY in the past year in case nobody's noticed. Everyone and their brother is selling huge bar and plate IC's now for ~$200 or even less sometimes. How can you blame someone like SSauto taking a few hours and getting the piping right and selling it as a kit? I would do the same thing if I had the resources/welding know-how.
junkilo
07-07-2005, 01:32 PM
Yeah, because everyone knows tube/fin > bar and plate :ughd:
well both intercoolers have upsides and downsides. What are you actually referring to?
boosteds13
07-07-2005, 02:10 PM
well both intercoolers have upsides and downsides. What are you actually referring to?
True...
Bar and plate = more efficient
Tube/Fin = lighter
Bar and plate = sturdier
Tube/Fin = allows more airflow to the radiator
But, with a cooling panel or creative ducting, the airflow issue can be easily worked around. Seems like the smallest pebble makes pinhole holes in the tube/fins....
i would stay away from the ebay intercoolers, some of them are very poor quality and use a very poor quality core. Pay a little bit more to get a name brand intercooler kit like Blitz, HKS, Greddy to name a few. :)
BoostInnovations
07-07-2005, 03:20 PM
nah name brand isnt neccessary at all for an IC...your just paying for the name thats all...if these SSautochrome ICs are the same ones people are saying they are then they are really high quality...i have 3 friends with 400+hp dsms running these
nah name brand isnt neccessary at all for an IC...your just paying for the name thats all...if these SSautochrome ICs are the same ones people are saying they are then they are really high quality...i have 3 friends with 400+hp dsms running these
Well sometimes yes, but in some cases we all know what kind of crap they sell on ebay...sometimes you get a real nice items, sometimes they are cheap quality junk on ebay. ;)
junkilo
07-07-2005, 05:14 PM
get me one side by side to a blitz/hks/greddy/brandwhatever intercooler so we can end this mess for good. it cant be that tough to tell by closely inspecting the weld quality and the thickness of the aluminum, tank configuration, maybe a pressure test.
GForce
07-08-2005, 02:18 AM
I'm normally weary of EBay specials as well, but I was talking to a guy who has this IC on his SR20, not only is it huge but he said it's really nice quality as well. He's been really picky with his car so I wouldn't expect him to skimp on this, he definately recommended it.
Nice price, too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7985661210&category=33742
BIGBX1
07-20-2005, 12:47 AM
This intercooler is good for the price, only problem that I have that it is not the one pictured. It is like the other kits sold on ebay it has the gay blue colored intercooler piping. Also on a s13 you will have to fab the upper brackets, they do not mount to the horn bolt holes. Other that that very nice kit great for the price.
sr240mike
07-20-2005, 10:14 PM
I got the auction with the gay blue piping with the intention of painting it. I was very suprised when it showed up, the piping was polished aluminum(not blue). It bolted right up with the suplied brackets, and has bov flange.
WILDACEX187
07-20-2005, 10:44 PM
how does it feel? did u notice a little lag?
Flybert
07-20-2005, 11:01 PM
There's definite lag because of how large it is. I have mine mounted upsidedown directly in front of my radiator and cut up the chassis to run the pipes directly below my headlights to keep the piping short to help with the lag problem. I used 2.25" aluminum piping on the hot side and 2.5" piping on the cold side. Those kits come with 3" pipes from what it seems and that is gonna make it even laggier. I wish they made this intercooler in a 2" or 2.5" thick version.
boosteds13
07-20-2005, 11:43 PM
I just got this kit for my CA18. Its actually an SR kit. I emailed SSauto and bought it from them directly for $250 + $44 shipping. Here are the pics... (don't mind the other stuff, I ordered it all at the same time...)
http://www.escic.com/240sx/newparts.jpg
http://www.escic.com/240sx/fmic.jpg
http://www.escic.com/240sx/inlet.jpg
My overall impressions are that the kit is VERY nice. The welds are extremely solid. I don't what the hell these people are talking about with the endtanks blowing off or whatever... that's just ridiculous. The piping is very light for being stainless. Entire kit weighs in at 27 pounds. Comes with everything you need from the turbo outlet to the throttle body. Comes with nice connectors/reducers and TBOLT clamps.... not crappy worm clamps.
WILDACEX187
07-21-2005, 10:55 AM
i dont see a bov flange there
boosteds13
07-21-2005, 11:36 AM
i dont see a bov flange there
No.... And I'm glad it doesn't. I'd rather choose my own BOV to use. And the TiAl BOV's (which I am getting) comes with a flange to be welded on.
PROJECTRB240SX
07-21-2005, 11:36 AM
Ca18 = No Bov.
boosteds13
07-21-2005, 12:40 PM
Ca18 = No Bov.
In stock form...
PROJECTRB240SX
07-21-2005, 12:52 PM
Right... Thats Why The Kit Doesn't Have The Provision.
boosteds13
07-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Right... Thats Why The Kit Doesn't Have The Provision.
The SR kit they sell doesn't have one either.... explain that...
PROJECTRB240SX
07-21-2005, 02:23 PM
Ohh.... I Just Emailed Ss Autochrome About It And That Was There Response.
The Sr Kit I Saw From Them Had A Post Like The Greddy Kit Has Down Near The Fmic.
PROJECTRB240SX
07-21-2005, 02:25 PM
THIS IS THE SR KIT: http://www.stockreco.com/aaaa10148.jpg
THIS IS THE CA KIT: http://www.stockreco.com/aaaa10061.jpg
stillmatic
07-21-2005, 04:02 PM
THIS IS THE SR KIT: http://www.stockreco.com/aaaa10148.jpg
THIS IS THE CA KIT: http://www.stockreco.com/aaaa10061.jpg
Actually, both of them are SR kits. Only difference is the 2nd pic is designed by Kyle Bennett and the 1st one is by some other company.
boosteds13
07-21-2005, 04:38 PM
FMIC Kit SSauto peddles as the SR kit.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7987525244&category=33742&rd=1
And the one they sell as the CA18 kit.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7988275312&category=33742&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1
As you can see, they are the same thing.
PROJECTRB240SX
07-21-2005, 05:18 PM
sr20det fmic sold by ssautochrome: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7984724348&category=33742
see the ssautochrome label?
S14DB
07-21-2005, 05:39 PM
You guys talking shit about SSA have nothing to base that on except the people complaining about outsourced parts from years ago.
Everything they've been stocking and selling for the past year or so is way better product from better suppliers. And the broken turbo everyone cries about was an XS Power turbo, not an SSA. SSA sold some of their stuff for awhile until they had complaints.
If you bought a Greddy part from heavythrottle and it had issues, would you criticize heavythrottle? No, you'd criticize Greddy, it was their product that failed.
Give the blame where it's due. Their stuff is great for the money and will last just as long as anything else if you install and use it correctly. It's the people who don't run exhaust hangers and drive over parking lot curbs who break manifolds. And they're the ones crying about it later on and filling everyone's heads. :stupid: People always seem to skew the story so it's never their fault.
I plan on getting this FMIC kit for the piping alone. I can only hope that the IC will fit easly. If not I'll get a boostcoolers Spearco off ebay and sell the other. Hopefully boosteds13 will let me test fit his when I put my new bumper on. :x:
dasalnt
07-21-2005, 08:06 PM
Does the ca18 kit come with the hotpipe? Will this intercooler fit on a s14 with a redtop or is it only for s13's? Also, does anyone know the piping size for the hotside and coldside for this kit? I know inlet and outlet are both 3" but i hope the piping isnt also 3". Thats just WAY too big unless you're making massive power which 99% of us arent. Thanks
clean
07-24-2005, 02:11 PM
i didn't expect this much response to my thread, i ended up ordering it, $350 shipped is a good price. i'll see about quality.
iMAGE976
07-30-2005, 08:52 PM
i ordered this kit as well...the price was a steal, and i got the stuff in the mail jus yesterday and i must the Core and end tanks look real clean. The welds and everything look good. i will hopefully do a follow up when i install this bad boy in my s13. i will keep u guys posted...
Silverbullet
07-31-2005, 02:00 PM
i bought an SSAC Intercooler and i love it. Its that exact size. I've heard nasty stories about some of their products and i took that into consideration... But hten i realized this is an intercooler, its pretty fucking hard to mess up on making an intercooler. I recieved my IC in about 3 days from winning the auction and i was VERY impressed. So was just about everyone that took a close look at it. The only complaint i have is the top mounting tab. The whole is drilled too low for a Silvia face. It will work fine for a 180sx and 240sx style head lights but for Silvia face, if u try to use that hole, the IC will not fit because of the head lights in the way. I ended up making the circular hole into a long oval shape and it works fine. I like it much better than my old FMIC (GReddy pos).
dasalnt
07-31-2005, 07:13 PM
can anyone here verify the piping size that comes with these kits? I know the endtands are 3" but is the piping 2.5? Also, if you can say which kit you got, the ca18det or the one for the sr20det
crioten
08-01-2005, 08:11 AM
anyone have an idea when the s13 ka-t's intercooler kit will be avaliable?
i think ill be right in assuming that it will line up pretty good with there ka-t manifold and dumppipe, right?
only thing is, i dont like how big those IC cores are, i think ill sell mine and get a smaller one
420sx
08-01-2005, 11:42 AM
i wander how it will fit on s14 with s13 sr.... just hate to cut bumper support, a lil trimming is ok tho
iMAGE976
08-01-2005, 12:01 PM
can anyone here verify the piping size that comes with these kits? I know the endtands are 3" but is the piping 2.5? Also, if you can say which kit you got, the ca18det or the one for the sr20det
Yes the piping is 2.5
sLiDewAys
08-17-2005, 01:09 PM
i bought an SSAC Intercooler and i love it. Its that exact size. I've heard nasty stories about some of their products and i took that into consideration... But hten i realized this is an intercooler, its pretty fucking hard to mess up on making an intercooler. I recieved my IC in about 3 days from winning the auction and i was VERY impressed. So was just about everyone that took a close look at it. The only complaint i have is the top mounting tab. The whole is drilled too low for a Silvia face. It will work fine for a 180sx and 240sx style head lights but for Silvia face, if u try to use that hole, the IC will not fit because of the head lights in the way. I ended up making the circular hole into a long oval shape and it works fine. I like it much better than my old FMIC (GReddy pos).
works fine with my silvia front.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/720000-720999/720619_36_full.jpg
turtl631
08-17-2005, 04:19 PM
Do they have anything for S14? I was gonna just set up piping myself for a ka-t setup, but this would probably be cheaper. I figure $100 for silicone couplers/t bolts, $250 for a nice core, and $100-$150 for piping, depending on whether I get aluminum or just mild steel. SSA would be cheaper and easier...
ssa_is_shit
08-17-2005, 04:56 PM
I bought the SSA and, in my opinion it was cheap crap. The piping was poorly finished, the couplers were the cheapest I have seen, and 2 of the t-bolt clamps broke when tightening. You could see right through the intercooler core - does that mean it is bad? I bought a Hybrid core and you can see the offset fins so I installed it instead. I didn't use the SSA core so it is for sale. If anyone wants the piece of crap core, I'll take $150 including shipping - never been installed.
dasalnt
08-17-2005, 05:25 PM
did you buy the kit made for the ca18det with the stainless steel piping or the sr20det kit with the aluminum piping?
ssa_is_shit
08-17-2005, 06:10 PM
The SR kit with aluminum piping. In my opinion, the stainless is even worse... usually, it heat soaks, holding the heat instead of transferring it. So, the intercooler is designed to cool the air and then you run it through hot piping.
marios13
08-17-2005, 09:32 PM
man i have ss auto chrome aswell and there shit is tight !!!
go to there site son
www.ssautochrome.com
ssa_is_shit
08-18-2005, 05:32 PM
Tight shit.... sounds kind of like the posts that they leave for folks that don't leave them positive feedback on eBay. Regardless of why you leave negative feedback, there response is always about something that has nothing to do with the product. Try to email them sometime and see what kind of response you get. It ain't going to happen. Try to send a product back... it ain't going to happen. My thoughts... if you haven't tried the good stuff, you probably don't know that it is supposed to be better. You get what you pay for and, at ssautochrome, the only guarantee that you will get is that you get what you pay for and nothing else.
clean
08-29-2005, 04:20 PM
silverbullet or slideways take a pic of the top mounting brackets for me cause i have a silvia front end and i have to make some serious new mounting brackets cause nothing is lineing up, i have 2 mounting holes on the top of the ic, from your pic slideways i am assuming you have one in the middle, right
The SR kit with aluminum piping. In my opinion, the stainless is even worse... usually, it heat soaks, holding the heat instead of transferring it. So, the intercooler is designed to cool the air and then you run it through hot piping.
you never went to HS, did you.
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