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mav1178
04-09-2002, 01:17 AM
To all 240SX enthusiasts,

Hi, my name is Alex Chang, and I have been a member of the www.amarok.org-based 240SX list since roughly 1997 (and the various amarok.org-based regional lists hosted on Groups.Yahoo.com). After last summer's successful UNN meet that was put on by Louis Snodgrass, I asked that we have the 2002 event in Southern California.

Now, after months of planning and hard work, it is all coming together...

On behalf of the guys who have made the event possible (so far), I proudly present to you, the 240SX community, the 2002 240SX National Convention.

July 26th-28th, 2002. Southern California.

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***Agenda***

Day 1

Friday, July 26th

An informal social/icebreaker held on Friday night, Speedzone is a favorite destination for SoCal residents looking for a good time with family and friends.

· Starting around 5: 00PM till about 7: 00PM (for food)
· A great way to meet the faces behind the names you’ve read so much about.
· We will have some guest speakers from within the 240SX community to talk about the convention, the weekend, and just to share some storys with everyone.
· Speedzone will set aside a section of the parking lot for us to park our cars together.
· The price of the event includes a pizza/lasagna dinner, as well as $23 of credit towards grand prix racing or video games, as well as a round of minigolf.
· Additional game/racing credits can be purchased on-site.
· Drag racing, slick kart, turbo track, and grand prix racing!
· Price for Speedzone goes up after May 31st!
· More info on Speedzone can be found at http://www.speedzone.com

Day 2

Saturday, July 27th

Thanks to the generous assistance of Nissan North America, the prime focus of our 2002 convention will be at Nissan’s Carson, CA headquarters. Established in 1990, Nissan North America was created to coordinate the design, development, manufacturing, and marketing of Nissan vehicles in North America.


· Event takes place from 10AM-4PM
· Food caterer will be on-site. A limited number of meal tickets are available for sale at the event on a first come, first serve basis.
· One raffle ticket will be included in the price of Saturday’s event for all registered attendees. Additional raffle tickets are available at $2/each at the event. A raffle drawing will be done at 2: 00PM; all raffle tickets must be bought before 1:30PM.
· Nissan will display various production and show/race cars. We will try to confirm cars, as we get closer to the event.
· Each registered car will have a number randomly assigned. This number will be used for both the awards voting and for the track event.
· Seminars hosted by distinguished guests of the convention will take place in the conference room on the first floor of Nissan North America’s 9-story main building in the morning. Exact details of the seminars will be announced later as we confirm details.
· The parking lot immediately behind Nissan’s 9 story main building will be the focus of our event. The lot itself can hold over 150 cars, and will be the center of our convention.
· Awards will be handed out to the best cars of the convention, as voted on by you, the participants! Actual award categories will be announced at a later date.
· Professional DJ and music will be on-site.
· Every registered participant for Saturday will receive a convention t-shirt and one raffle ticket, as well as a convention lanyard. Additional convention t-shirts can be purchased at the event.
· This is your chance to showcase what you got! Be sure to bring out the best that you have! Meet and greet representatives from the automotive aftermarket industry!



Day 3

Sunday, July 28th

Hosted by SpeedTrial USA, our Sunday track event takes place at The Streets of Willow, located at Willow Springs International Raceway in Rosamond, CA. The Streets of Willow @ Willow Springs International Raceway is a 13 turn(or 14 turn, depending on how you count the turns), 1.8 mile road course in the high desert about 70 miles north of downtown Los Angeles. Located about 75 miles north of downtown Los Angeles, it is one of the most popular racetracks for automotive enthusiasts in Southern California. Streets of Willow Springs is a track frequented by many of the major automotive publications such as Motor Trend, Road and Track, Sport Compact Car, and many others.

Track map:
http://www.socal240sx.org/images/streets.jpg
http://www.socal240sx.org/images/StreetsMap-newcopy.jpg

SpeedtrialUSA’s website, http://www.speedtrialusa.com, lists all of the technical requirements to run a track event. In order to participate in this event, you must meet all of the following conditions:

1) Have paid your track event fee by the registration deadline (May 31st for
early bird, June 30th late registration).
2) Have a valid drivers license.
3) Have a Snell SA-95 rating or better helmet. Please note that M-rating
helmets are NOT allowed for this event.
4) Have your car pass a mandatory tech inspection. A form is available at
http://www.speedtrialusa.com/techformweb.htm (Convertibles will require a rollbar for your own safety)

There are 4 major run groups for the track event:

1) Advanced - You have professional/competitive experience at track events
and track racing, or you have been to many track events (over 8 events) and
to Streets of Willow at least twice.
2) Intermediate A - You have more experience than those in Intermediate B
class (roughly 5-7 events) and have been to Streets at least once.
3) Intermediate B - You have experience in autocross and/or track events
(roughly 2-4 events), but have never been to Streets of Willow.
4 Beginner - You have never run a track event, or you have limited autocross
experience.
*Please note that the run groups are listed as your reference. If you feel you should be in a different run group, please make a note of that in your registration.

A brief rundown of the day will look like this:
7:30-8: 00am
Check in, Final tech-inspection
8: 00-8:30am
Mandatory Drivers' Meeting
8:30am-12: 00pm
Morning Practice
12: 00-1: 00pm
Lunch
1: 00-5: 00pm
Afternoon Practice

If we finish the day early, we can get to use the skidpad for "exhibition
runs". Everyone must be off the track by 5PM.

Info on the track event:
· Cost per driver is $110. Registration at this time is open to 240SX owners ONLY. The price is not per vehicle.
· Professional corner workers will be working at the event. Please show all courtesy and respect to them, as they are your eyes and ears on the track.
· Paramedic and Emergency tow is on-site, but please be safe and observe all rules when on the track and in the pit area.
· There is a 5MPH limit in the pit area. If you speed, you will be asked to leave.
· Gates open at 7: 00AM.
· We start promptly at 8: 00AM. A driver’s meeting will be held at 8AM sharp. It is mandatory that everyone attends this driver’s meeting, as important rules/regulations will be discussed. If you do not attend this meeting, you cannot run your car on the track.
· Every car will be assigned a number so that the corner workers can keep track of you in case there is trouble. If you have registered for both Saturday and Sunday, you will be assigned the same number for both days.
· The first run group will be out on the track at 8:40AM. Each run group will last 20 minutes, starting with the first car out on the track. Each group will have a maximum of 25 cars.
· There are four run groups: Advanced, Intermediate A, Intermediate B, and Beginner. Please run in the beginner group if you have never driven at a track event before, or if your experience is very limited. There will be instructors available at the track event if you need instruction. We reserve the right to move drivers to different run groups if the need arises.
· On average, there are about 10-12 laps per session, depending on how fast your car is. Average lap times for an intermediate driver at Streets is around 1:45~1:50.
· Each run group will have no more than 25 cars on the track at any given
time, and will last 20 minutes each.
· Please have your tech inspection completed prior to the track event. A list of tech inspection shops is available on the SpeedTrialUSA website. It is your responsibility to have your car ready by the event. If you show up late and cannot tech on-time, we will not wait for you to start the event.
· If you are from out of state and cannot tech before the event, there will be an opportunity to have tech done on Saturday night by appointment only at the hotel in Lancaster. Please email Alex Chang at [email protected] to set up an appointment. If you live within 25 miles of a tech inspection shop, you MUST have your tech inspection done before the date of the event.
· We will break for a one-hour lunch break between noon and 1PM. During this time, parade laps will be allowed for those that wish to drive around the track. A 55MPH speed limit will be strictly enforced.
· Everyone must leave the track site by 5PM, NO EXCEPTIONS!
· If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Track events
are great fun and a great way to learn about yourself as a driver and to
test the limits of your car in a safe, controlled environment.


***Accommodations***

The two hotels listed here are the official hotels of the 240SX convention. The majority of the folks going to the convention will stay there. If you wish to locate a different hotel, the yellow pages on www.yahoo.com are very useful.


Hotel 1 – Event hotel

Holiday Inn
14299 Firestone Blvd
La Mirada, CA 90638
714-739-8500
Toll-free: 800-465-4329
(800 HOLIDAY)
Fax: 714-739-4272

$79.00 per night(regardless of double or single). Reservations need to be made prior to 7/8/02.


Hotel 2 – Track event hotel


TBA


***Directions***

I will post all info on directions at a later time, or if you wish you can email me in private for info on it.


***Registration***

At this time, we can only allow 240SX owners to register for the Saturday convention and Sunday track event. The Friday night Speedzone event is open for everyone to attend.

Convention package:

Before May 31st:
$165 if paying by check/money order
$170 if paying by Paypal/credit card payment (to cover the 3% fee that Paypal charges)
After May 31st:
$180

Speedzone:
$30/person if paid by June 15th
$40/person if paid after June 15th

· Price includes all-you-can-eat pizza/lasagna dinner, $23 game credit (towards arcade games or grand prix tracks), and one round of minigolf.

Saturday convention:
$25/person if paid by May 31st
$30/person if paid after May 31st

· Price of convention registration includes one convention t-shirt, one raffle ticket, official convention souvenir program, convention lanyard and nametag, and catered lunch.
· Additional raffle tickets can be purchased for $2 each at the event.
· T-Shirts are $12 each, lanyards are $3 each if purchased separately.
· Additional meal tickets are available at $10 each, on a first come first serve basis.

Sunday Track Event:
$110/person if paid by May 31st
$120/person if paid by June 30th
· Price of track event is for one day of hot-lapping at Streets of Willow on Sunday July 28th, 2002. This price is PER DRIVER, not per vehicle.
· A 50% deposit must be paid by May 31st in order to secure your spot for the track event. This deposit is non-refundable.
· Regular track admission rate is $120/person.

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All info on the convention will be up on www.socal240sx.org/convention2002.html (site should be live within the next couple of days)


To register for the event, please visit this page:
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html

(ALL FIELDS MUST BE FILLED OUT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION.)

If you are interested in sending payment, please mail it to:

Alex Chang
240SX National Convention
17026 Falda Avenue
Torrance, CA 90504
*Please make checks payable to Alex Chang

Or, you can send it via PayPal to [email protected] earthlink.net or [email protected] earthlink.net

I will post up a refund policy for those of you that are concerned about it. It will be listed on the convention webpage.

A few things to note:

* We strongly encourage you to arrange hotel reservations with each other, so you can take advantage of the special rates. Please note that the $79/night rate applies regardless if the hotel has a single bed or double.

* If you are interested in arrange caravans from different parts of the country, email me in private and I can set up something with a point man in each region.

* If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. We will put up a FAQ on the convention website soon so that people can reference the information. If you wish to contact me directly with questions on the event, you can reach me on AOL Instant Messanger at Mav1178



Now, for something personal I'd like to say about this event:

I personally would hope that you all can attend this event, whether you live in SoCal or Boston, Florida or Seattle. It is looking like one of the biggest Nissan events ever, and to show up to it would not only be supporting your own 240SX community and its enthusiasts, it would also show Nissan the type of quality enthusiasts we are. It is a great opportunity to come together, celebrate the heritage of the 240SX and the past roots of it, and see the people behind the wheels of our great cars.

We hope you are looking forward to the event as much as we are!

-alex
www.socal240sx.org

P.S. If you have any other lists you think this may be useful for, please forward it to them. Please also forward this to as many 240SX enthusiasts you know!

mrmephistopheles
04-09-2002, 01:23 AM
wtf is a mav? <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
i'm there.

adey
04-09-2002, 02:50 AM
Finally!!! A convention just for 240s!! Who else is in?! this sounds really, really amazing. Imagine it, a track FULL of 240s and ONLY 240s! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

three days of events including track time, an official nissan NA reception and karting all for 165?! That is an insanely good price... this will most definately be a MUST SEE (or must not miss) event for 240 owners across the lower 48!!

Sounds like an EXCELLENT opportunity for newbies like myself to get some track time! Of course I'll have to buy a helmet, but that'll come in handy later on as I get into more events... but this'll be my first, so I hope there're plenty of novices out there representin... if for no other reason, then to make me feel "faster"!! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

Alex, GREAT work and thanks so much for putting this together! I'm looking forward to what will inevitably be the single LARGEST, most INCLUSIVE 240 event to date and for a looooong time to come! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

mav1178
04-09-2002, 03:01 AM
well, the prime focus of the convention is around 240SX's, but I am not going to close the event to only 240SX's.

Anyone with an open mind is invited. &nbsp;This means SoCal-SERCA, Z32.org, TT.net, Maxima,org, Altima.net, ClubSi, VWVortex, NewCelica.org, and dozens of other car clubs.

I am only sending out official invites to the event at Nissan North America. &nbsp;I will probably ask L.A. County Sheriffs department to attend the event to help with security.

The whole purpose of the event is to celebrate our cars and our community. &nbsp;I'm all for sharing the celebration with all car enthusiasts, regardless of the car they drive.

-alex

Grant
04-09-2002, 03:09 AM
If I have no tests that weekends or any plans I will be able to go. This will be a great event for people who are interested in 240sx and want to be able to drive on a real track, and better learn the limits of their car.

onebadm5
04-09-2002, 05:54 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ April 09 2002,02:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If I have no tests that weekends or any plans I will be able to go. This will be a great event for people who are interested in 240sx and want to be able to drive on a real track, and better learn the limits of their car.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
are u crossin the car grant?

KiDyNomiTe
04-09-2002, 08:59 PM
damn. SoCal seems to be too long of a road trip for me and pretty much anyone on the east side of the mississippi. I say that there should be a convention similar to this in the midwest.

I remeber hearing something about a meet in Oklahoma, or Arkansas, something like that. Is that meet going to have a track or anything like that or is that one just liike a "Hi this is my car and its got X,Y, and Z, how bout you" type of thing.
A link would help a lot.

KiDyNomiTe
04-09-2002, 09:01 PM
well nevermind my question just found out. I guess it already passed. Anyone go the Nissan Meet in little rock

mav1178
04-09-2002, 11:18 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ April 09 2002,9:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn. SoCal seems to be too long of a road trip for me and pretty much anyone on the east side of the mississippi. I say that there should be a convention similar to this in the midwest.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It is only a long drive if you think it is.

Russ Gogans is driving out from Atlanta, Yury Lyalko is driving from Boston, some folks are coming from Florida, Frankie Overbey is coming from South Carolina, Louis Snodgrass is coming from Kansas City, Dave Alexander is coming from Dallas, Don Nimi is flying from Vancouver.

Like I tell other people...

If there is a will, there is a way. &nbsp;If you want to go, you'll find a way to go, regardless. &nbsp;Last year's event in Kansas City saw T.Y. and Rob drive out from SoCal/Arizona, and about 20 guys from all over the Atlantic seaboard drive 30-40+ hours.

-alex

Danio
04-10-2002, 03:44 AM
Me and a couple 240SX friends will be registering as soon as we figure out if we're going to run our cars on the track or not, who we're bringing along, etc. Just letting you know we're definitely interested, even though we haven't registered yet.

luey02
04-12-2002, 08:02 AM
alex, will the gas money be reimbursted for those who drive a long way?? &nbsp;it's like $300 total man... &nbsp;i dont mind the long drive but come on... kidy's got a point

mav1178
04-12-2002, 11:13 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ April 12 2002,09:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">alex, will the gas money be reimbursted for those who drive a long way?? it's like $300 total man... i dont mind the long drive but come on... kidy's got a point</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I don't want to be rude, but ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

If you want me to pay you for gas money, do you also want me to pay for your hotel? &nbsp;Or your food? &nbsp;While I'm at it, why not I just go get a trailer, pick up you and your car, and DRIVE you to California and give you the royal treatment.

If you can't afford to make it, you can't make it. &nbsp;I might not even break even on the event (I might even lose money out of my own pocket), and you want me to spot you for your gas? &nbsp;Geez.

No one else is complaining about gas.

-alex

mrmephistopheles
04-12-2002, 11:17 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ April 12 2002,07:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">alex, will the gas money be reimbursted for those who drive a long way?? it's like $300 total man... i dont mind the long drive but come on... kidy's got a point</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Please tell me you're joking.
At least if you're not joking, that you're not serious.
This is a voluntary event, you are not being forced into going.
Ergo, any costs that are required to get you there and back fall on you alone.
If your engine blows up, do you think the convention planners will pay for it?
All the registration money is being used to pay for all of the events that we'll be provided, not to pay for GAS.
Whether of nt you want to go is up to you, and if you are enough of an enthusiast and have the resources and time available to you, then there is NO reason why you should not go. If you don't, WAIT A YEAR. Chances are it won't be held in SoCal for a 2nd consecutive year. Chances are, it'll be on the east coast next year.

Cliffnotes: Grow the fuck up. Nobody is paying for your gas.

Kreator
04-12-2002, 04:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Like I tell other people...

If there is a will, there is a way. &nbsp;If you want to go, you'll find a way to go, regardless. &nbsp;Last year's event in Kansas City saw T.Y. and Rob drive out from SoCal/Arizona, and about 20 guys from all over the Atlantic seaboard drive 30-40+ hours.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Well if it's a NATIONAL Convention, you coulda at least set it up in Kansas or Nebraska, so that everyone could attend it. Driving across the freakin country is too much... and i think most people from the eastern shore would agree with me.

It sounds really cool to me, and i'd really love to go, but hey have you seen the gas prices lately? Also, driving from SoCal to Kansas is like half as much as driving from MD to SoCal.

mrmephistopheles
04-12-2002, 05:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ April 12 2002,3:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well if it's a NATIONAL Convention, you coulda at least set it up in Kansas or Nebraska, so that everyone could attend it. Driving across the freakin country is too much... and i think most people from the eastern shore would agree with me.

It sounds really cool to me, and i'd really love to go, but hey have you seen the gas prices lately? Also, driving from SoCal to Kansas is like half as much as driving from MD to SoCal.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmm See, class, this is what happens when you do not pay atention in class.
Last year's convention (the FIRST) WAS INDEED held in Kansas! Kansas City to be exact!
Read my last post. If you can't drive to the west coast, WAIT A YEAR.
Oh, and yes, we HAVE seen the gas prices lately. You don't pay $1.79 for one gallon of cheap stuff and not notice.

<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'>

Kreator
04-12-2002, 05:41 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrmephistopheles @ April 12 2002,6:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ April 12 2002,3:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well if it's a NATIONAL Convention, you coulda at least set it up in Kansas or Nebraska, so that everyone could attend it. Driving across the freakin country is too much... and i think most people from the eastern shore would agree with me.

It sounds really cool to me, and i'd really love to go, but hey have you seen the gas prices lately? Also, driving from SoCal to Kansas is like half as much as driving from MD to SoCal.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmm See, class, this is what happens when you do not pay atention in class.
Last year's convention (the FIRST) WAS INDEED held in Kansas! Kansas City to be exact!
Read my last post. If you can't drive to the west coast, WAIT A YEAR.
Oh, and yes, we HAVE seen the gas prices lately. You don't pay $1.79 for one gallon of cheap stuff and not notice.

<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hrmmm, i've read that it was in Kansas. My point here is that it should be held in Kansas all the time. First advatage, people know where to go after they've been there for the first time. Second of all, you can work out a deal with the owners of the track and all the stuff since it's gonna be every year. And third of all, the distance people have to drive is much smaller.... i just thought it'd be more reasonable... not that anyone's gonna listen <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

luey02
04-12-2002, 07:30 PM
let me try this again... &nbsp;if I can read and follow the trend here.. &nbsp;Next year's convention is gonna be on the eastcoast!!!!! &nbsp; &nbsp;

I just think it's unfair to those who live far compare to ones live in socal<---can I use that word?? &nbsp;total expenses will be greater... &nbsp;I really wanna go but that $300 gas is my week's pay... &nbsp;can you guys do a little fund raising or som'?? or sponsors that'll pay some gas expenses??

mav1178
04-12-2002, 10:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ April 12 2002,6:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrmmm, i've read that it was in Kansas. My point here is that it should be held in Kansas all the time. First advatage, people know where to go after they've been there for the first time. Second of all, you can work out a deal with the owners of the track and all the stuff since it's gonna be every year. And third of all, the distance people have to drive is much smaller.... i just thought it'd be more reasonable... not that anyone's gonna listen <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
First point: &nbsp;If it was in Kansas all the time, it would be *HIGHLY* unfair to those near Kansas.... &nbsp;To be fair to everyone across the country, it would have to rotate from one part of the country to another every year.

Second: &nbsp;Work out what? &nbsp;Different tracks have different policies. &nbsp;

Third: &nbsp;Like I said, if you can't go, you can't go. &nbsp;If it was in Kansas every year, or the midwest, let's see: &nbsp;a 3200 or so mile roundtrip, 25MPG highway mileage (assuming you have a good car), that's about 128 gallons of gas. &nbsp;At $1.50 summertime prices for a gallon of gas, that's almost $200 of gas money for a person that wants to drive from SoCal. &nbsp;If that was one year, that would be fine... but every year, and it adds up.

The point of THIS YEAR'S CONVENTION was not to screw over the other parts of the country. &nbsp;It was to showcase 240SX owners, their community, and the Nissan community at large. &nbsp;I'm not going to defend myself anymore on this matter, but don't criticise me for having this event in SoCal because it is inconvenient for you. &nbsp;I couldn't drive to last year's event, so I *FLEW* out there. &nbsp;So did a couple other guys. &nbsp;Did they complain about the flying? &nbsp;No. &nbsp;Did the guys that drove out from Florida or California or New York complain? &nbsp;No.

Same goes for this year's event. &nbsp;There are folks flying in from around the country that aren't complaining. &nbsp;There are folks driving across the country that aren't complaining. &nbsp;I can only do so much to get people to go. &nbsp;I tried to make this event as glamorous as possible, in hopes that folks would be willing to drive to it. &nbsp;I tried to make it as worthwhile as possible, as affordable as possible, in hopes that there would be many 240SX enthusiasts that would want to attend in spite of the distance. &nbsp;

I suppose you can only do so much. &nbsp;If I can't "please" you enough to make you attend, then I apologize, but I'm not made of money... If I win the lottery or something, I'll pay for everyone's gas money, but until then, PAY FOR YOUR OWN GAS.

-alex

KiDyNomiTe
04-12-2002, 10:57 PM
if it is nearer to the midwest I will definately be there. Either way I dont have a car right now so no need in me coming this year. But next year I will be there with an S13.

When I am older and rich I hope to get a pilot liscence and get a small plane (its always been my dream to fly). Then I can just fly a plane with a couple of people and have my car sent on a trailer.

That would be great but also in the distant furture. Sorry for rambling on, I was bored.

luey02
04-13-2002, 12:45 AM
hey mav, next time dont ban me from FA then I wouldn't fuck with you...

mav1178
04-13-2002, 05:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ April 13 2002,01:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey mav, next time dont ban me from FA then I wouldn't fuck with you...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Then don't fuck with me. &nbsp;I didn't ban you. &nbsp;Don't assume I banned you just because I am a moderator.

If you didn't do anything to get yourself banned, then you have every right to appeal it. &nbsp;But if you screwed around, well that's your own fault.

-alex

Kreator
04-13-2002, 12:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mav1178 @ April 12 2002,11:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ April 12 2002,6:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrmmm, i've read that it was in Kansas. My point here is that it should be held in Kansas all the time. First advatage, people know where to go after they've been there for the first time. Second of all, you can work out a deal with the owners of the track and all the stuff since it's gonna be every year. And third of all, the distance people have to drive is much smaller.... i just thought it'd be more reasonable... not that anyone's gonna listen <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
First point: If it was in Kansas all the time, it would be *HIGHLY* unfair to those near Kansas.... To be fair to everyone across the country, it would have to rotate from one part of the country to another every year.

Second: Work out what? Different tracks have different policies.

Third: Like I said, if you can't go, you can't go. If it was in Kansas every year, or the midwest, let's see: a 3200 or so mile roundtrip, 25MPG highway mileage (assuming you have a good car), that's about 128 gallons of gas. At $1.50 summertime prices for a gallon of gas, that's almost $200 of gas money for a person that wants to drive from SoCal. If that was one year, that would be fine... but every year, and it adds up.

The point of THIS YEAR'S CONVENTION was not to screw over the other parts of the country. It was to showcase 240SX owners, their community, and the Nissan community at large. I'm not going to defend myself anymore on this matter, but don't criticise me for having this event in SoCal because it is inconvenient for you. I couldn't drive to last year's event, so I *FLEW* out there. So did a couple other guys. Did they complain about the flying? No. Did the guys that drove out from Florida or California or New York complain? No.

Same goes for this year's event. There are folks flying in from around the country that aren't complaining. There are folks driving across the country that aren't complaining. I can only do so much to get people to go. I tried to make this event as glamorous as possible, in hopes that folks would be willing to drive to it. I tried to make it as worthwhile as possible, as affordable as possible, in hopes that there would be many 240SX enthusiasts that would want to attend in spite of the distance.

I suppose you can only do so much. If I can't "please" you enough to make you attend, then I apologize, but I'm not made of money... If I win the lottery or something, I'll pay for everyone's gas money, but until then, PAY FOR YOUR OWN GAS.

-alex</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmm why do u always say 'socal'? So $200 for gas for you is too much but $300 for everyone else - you couldn't care less. Well, lets put it this way. If it was all the time in kansas, i'd be going there every year not a problem. But this way i have to be skipping some of them because the meet is on hte west coast.... Anyways, that was my opinion.

Kre

PS. i dont really give a shit, just arguing for the point of arguining. If you are calling this a NATIONAL convention, than make sure everyone can attend

DrDubbleB
04-13-2002, 02:52 PM
Bah. &nbsp;There's no way even in a "national convention" that they can insure that everyone can attend. &nbsp;The only reason it's called a national convention is because it is such a large event. &nbsp;I mean Nissan is going to be showing some of their concepts to the 240 community and only the 240 community for christ sakes. &nbsp;Sorry guys, I live on the East Coast, and for some of you to be asking for them to pay for your gas, or have a fund raiser to pay for your gas is absurd. &nbsp;I mean they are not a charity organization. &nbsp;

I could go on, but I'm not thinking straight right now, I'm just baffled at some of the rediculous arguments some of you are making.

P.S. Kansas City is MUCH closer to the East Coast than it is the West Coast, so it would still be unfair.

jskim9
04-13-2002, 05:54 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ April 12 2002,2:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm why do u always say 'socal'? So $200 for gas for you is too much but $300 for everyone else - you couldn't care less. Well, lets put it this way. If it was all the time in kansas, i'd be going there every year not a problem. But this way i have to be skipping some of them because the meet is on hte west coast.... Anyways, that was my opinion.

Kre

PS. i dont really give a shit, just arguing for the point of arguining. If you are calling this a NATIONAL convention, than make sure everyone can attend</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ONLY for those that have been complaining:

damn you guys are friggin idiots!!! DON'T WORRY! this convention will go on without every 240sx owner on the Continental US attending... including everyone bitching about it being in LA. If YOU really want it in your neck of the woods... by all means, summer of 2003 will be hosted in your backyard. Only thing is, YOU have to find a track, hotel discount, friday and saturday event setup. &nbsp;Get t shirts printed up, coordinate with the other 240sx groups (Atlanta, Southeast, Midwest, Florida, NorCal, Socal, Canada, etc etc) and of course... promo... You have to go around to every forum around and invite people there where you'll run into IDIOTs like yourselves bitching about why it's not held where it's most convenient to "EVERYONE".

Neither the 240sx community, SoCal240sx, nor does Mav1178 owe YOU or your extended family anything! It be great if everyone could make it, but everyone's gotta life to live. Those that could accommodate, awesome, can't wait to see you this July, if you can't... too bad, maybe next time. If you don't wanna/can't drive out to LA, once again, too bad, maybe next time. But don't be bitching about it.

NOBODY could care less whether you can make it here or not. Mav1178 posted this for those that CAN make it, not to tease those of you that CAN'T. Most of the core people that started off with the original Amarok list will be there, and honestly, as long as they are, this convention will be a success. Those that have been bitching about it seems to be the newbies to the community and NO, nobody owes you a more convenient place. &nbsp;

Fact is, LA is at the other end of the country, and yea, Kansas does make a lot of sense, or Nebraska, or Texas, or wherever the hell YOU want it. THEREFORE, next year or somewhere down the line, be sure YOU take it upon yourself to organize it, then YOU can make the selection as to its location.

FOR everyone else that hasn't complained:

hope you could make it out here, and if you can't, try to make the next one. If you are driving out here, drive safe.

Grant
04-13-2002, 07:56 PM
BOTTOM LINE IS: If you can't afford to go, don't go. Stop whining.
&nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

Just wait until next year or so when the event takes place in you area.
I think it is a ridiculous idea to have Alex reimburse people for gas money, you are to come at you own will, Alex did not force you. This isn't some RSVP to a house party.

I think driving 2-3 hours to the event is too much money, and I have to take 2 days off work. &nbsp;Should I ask Alex to reimburse me? its only $30!!? No, I'm not an idiot. thats probably hundreds of people coming out of state or from other areas of california. What should alex do, take out a loan?? <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

Alex is the host of this event, and he lives in Southern California (socal), not east coast or Kansas. That is why it is in Socal. You want one in another state? well maybe you should try to host it, or find someone in that state to host it.

Hope too see you guys there, but if you got to whine about the costs, or you can't afford it and you think Alex owes you something, do us all a favor, shut up and stay home. &nbsp;

ok so let me rephrase that, hopefully I'll see most of you 240sx guys, or at least the ones whose brains somewhat functions properly. &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

Kreator
04-13-2002, 08:24 PM
Ok ok, people relax. Why the hell does everyone have to get offended and start screaming shit? Fine, don't make it kansas city, make someplace that is right in the middle of the US.... as for the money issue, i don't really care about money as much as time. Cuz lets see, from DC to LA is gonna take what? 2 days of nonstop driving? Divide that by 2, you get 4 days of 12 hour driving.... that's alot. But anyways. Unfortunately i won't make it there <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>. But hope everyone who goes will have fun <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>.

Kre

Edit: Ahem.. do we have any Alaskan 240sx owners? (maybe a dumb question... a rwd in Alaska...)

Edit2: Oh god, i just noticed jskim9's msg. Jee, dude, chill. Got enough money to go to the meet? good for you. I'm waiting for the next year. I'm not asking anyone to put it in my town or even close to it. Kansas is as far away from me as from socal. Honestly you sounded like a 16 yr old there with all the "you" in capslock. I'm not asking for anything, just making a suggestion.

luey02
04-14-2002, 05:42 PM
gee, did you guys really think I was serious?? &nbsp; &nbsp;reimbursing gas money... lol.. &nbsp;I just wanted to mess with him cuz FA moderators are a bunch of tightasses.. &nbsp;

but dont get me wrong, it is nice to have someone organize something like this for the 240sx community... althought I can't make it this yr. &nbsp;hope things go well.

I'm a newbie?? &nbsp;hey, I worked hard for my 250 posts..

Grant
04-14-2002, 08:42 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ April 14 2002,4:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">gee, did you guys really think I was serious?? reimbursing gas money... lol.. I just wanted to mess with him cuz FA moderators are a bunch of tightasses..

but dont get me wrong, it is nice to have someone organize something like this for the 240sx community... althought I can't make it this yr. hope things go well.

I'm a newbie?? hey, I worked hard for my 250 posts..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You got a grudge with Alex? Take it up with him personally. You got a problem with FA mods? Theres a feedback forum over there to whine.

Alex put a lot of time and effort into this event, nothing to make a joke out of.

You guys want a meet in the middle of the US? like I said before, find someone in the middle of the US to plan it!

I know its a joke luey, but please. stop f**king around.
Anyone can be a newbie, anyone can have 1000 posts, but when something goes in one ear and out the other, the person's still a dumba$$.

luey02
04-15-2002, 07:14 AM
well, actually, I am.

wazneeni
04-15-2002, 11:37 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Alex is the host of this event, and he lives in Southern California (socal), not east coast or Kansas. That is why it is in Socal. You want one in another state? well maybe you should try to host it, or find someone in that state to host it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That's not why it's in SoCal!! I can't believe this hasn't been said yet in this topic. It's in SoCal because that's where most of us wanted it. And when I say "us," I'm not just talking about Zilvia. There was a multi-board/list, nationwide survey done last year asking where the 2002 Convention should be. SoCal won out.

Now, you'll probably say, "What survey? I didn't get to vote. There's lots of new people who weren't here then. That's not fair!! Blah,blah,blah...!!"

If you weren't here, then what you think about where the 2002 Convention should be does not matter in any way. I don't mean that in a bad way. It's just the truth.

Alex has already been asking for input for the location of the 2003 Convention. I'm voting for Atlanta. Why? Not because it's close...i live in Omaha. It's because I was born down there and I love it. In fact, I just drove down there in January to hang out w/ the Atlanta 240 guys...well, and to see friends I hadn't seen in 15 years. Anyway, that was the best 3000 miles I've ever driven.

One way or another, I will be in SoCal. Not sure if I'll drive my 240, trailer my 240 or fly out there...but, I WILL be there.

mav1178
04-16-2002, 03:20 PM
In case some of you guys care, HKS is confirming that they will have their 180SX drag car (with RB26DETT engine) on display. &nbsp;This is confirmed, pending any conflicts with major drag races in SoCal (which I don't see in the scheduling of LACR and Pomona).

So far, we have the following sponsors:

Nissan North America
JWT
AEM
HKS
5Zigen
Stillen
MossyNissan
Project D Auto Imaging (Minnesota)
JSpec.com
MotoRex/CWest
JIC
Freshalloy.com
and about 10 others pending.

It'll be a great event, that's for sure.

-alex

BlackFox
04-19-2002, 12:55 AM
Sounds like a whole bunch of fun.... I'll check my schedule, I'll probably be able to go... assuming I get my car in a week or 2 and I finish all the suspension mods by then (which i should).

Be there &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Danio
04-19-2002, 01:05 AM
I'll be driving down there from the SF Bay Area and I don't have a second set of wheels/tires for the track. I was just thinking I'm gonna have to drive the car back up to the bay area, and I might not want to do that with worn out tires. Would you recommend that I, and others in the same situation, don't run my car on the track?

mav1178
04-19-2002, 09:32 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ April 19 2002,02:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll be driving down there from the SF Bay Area and I don't have a second set of wheels/tires for the track. I was just thinking I'm gonna have to drive the car back up to the bay area, and I might not want to do that with worn out tires. Would you recommend that I, and others in the same situation, don't run my car on the track?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
There's no need to run another set of track wheels/tires if you aren't going to go all-out on the track. &nbsp;Whatever you have on your car now would be more than enough for your track runs.

-alex

onebadm5
04-19-2002, 10:14 AM
as long as i can avoid all this melodramatic meet location crap, and if my cars up to it, im down to come.

PLAY NICE BOYS <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

BlackFox
04-23-2002, 01:05 PM
I'm up here in the bay too, south SJ, maybe we could caravan down? I gotta make sure i got money though so...

sykikchimp
04-23-2002, 07:16 PM
I would love to go.. &nbsp;I'm not friving out there though. &nbsp;I might fly out. &nbsp;They only shitty thing would be flying out to the convention and not get to run the track.. &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

mav1178
04-23-2002, 09:59 PM
The website is now live.

http://www.socal240sx.org/convention2002.html

-alex

adey
04-23-2002, 10:05 PM
OMG!! when did you get all those sponsors!?! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp; That's it, I am going through EVERY POSSIBLE means to get my ass back to LA on those 3 days, even if it DOES mean flying out of Shanghai!! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>

BIG thumbs up to Alex for putting this thing together!!!

Grant
04-24-2002, 08:28 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (onebadm5 @ April 19 2002,09:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as long as i can avoid all this melodramatic meet location crap, and if my cars up to it, im down to come.

PLAY NICE BOYS <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
haha, "every one watches in awe... as the shiny silver Volvo 240, rolls up to the starting line.. its dark gunmetal rims *ahem* and the dead shocks display the deadly stance as it prepares to take on the inferior breed of 240's out there....."

oh wait you're not going to autocross it are you? <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

onebadm5
04-24-2002, 09:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ April 24 2002,7:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (onebadm5 @ April 19 2002,09:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as long as i can avoid all this melodramatic meet location crap, and if my cars up to it, im down to come.

PLAY NICE BOYS <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
haha, "every one watches in awe... as the shiny silver Volvo 240, rolls up to the starting line.. its dark gunmetal rims *ahem* and the dead shocks display the deadly stance at it prepares to take on the breed of 240sx's out there....."

oh wait you're not going to autocross it are you? <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
fuck you. you'll never match the coolness factor of the volv' <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

240sxyldy
04-25-2002, 01:13 PM
This is fOR all the "DEDICATED" Nissan owners out there.....
I will see you guys @ the Convention!! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Count me in!
I've told a few of my "240sx" frenz as well........
GREAT WORK "Mav1178":!: <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;Kudos to you! <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Lori &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>
'95 240sx se Coupe

mav1178
04-26-2002, 01:29 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxyldy @ April 25 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is fOR all the "DEDICATED" Nissan owners out there.....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This is for all the "dedicated" owners out there too....

If you want to go, or plan on going, REGISTER!!!

-alex

SQ-XcON S13
05-01-2002, 05:55 AM
Hey, hey, hey....Looks like another 3.5 hour trip from the Bay to L.A. =) &nbsp;Hey BlackFox, we should get together with our fellow Bay Area 240 peeps and make it down there. &nbsp;I should be able to go cuz my unemployment checks will start comin' in soon, lol. &nbsp;Oh yeah and when are you going to develop them cop car and helicopter pics you took @ our meet last Saturday? &nbsp;=P &nbsp;aiite, I'm outs.

Jason

bc240sx
05-01-2002, 12:06 PM
This is willl be an awesome event, which i really wanna to go.. but all my friends either drive Honda or Bimmer. i really don't have frds that like 240 as much as i do .. n i really wanna get to know more ppl that are from LA and gonna go to the event so maybe we can all meet up &nbsp;and cruise down there together.. Msg me back if u guys wanna met up , or it will be dope if we can have another 240sx meeting like couple week before the &nbsp;event in LA>. cause i miss the Shine street meeting last time ... &nbsp;thx alot...

SQ-XcON S13
05-01-2002, 06:09 PM
bc240sx, where are you from? &nbsp;My brother has a bimmer and i feel you, there arent a lot of us around.

mav1178
05-01-2002, 08:59 PM
There is a good possibility that I might be able to get Mr. Shinjiro Yukawa to be at the event.

In case you don't know who he is, he is the Chief Product Specialist for Nissan, on the Silvia chassis. He is basically considered the modern father of the Silvia (and 180SX, to a certain extent).

We're also working on getting the president of Nissan Motorsports International (Nismo) to show up...

The 2002 GT-R owner's meet will be at this event, so expect no less than 10-12 GT-R's.

-alex

BadMoJo
05-02-2002, 12:07 AM
Man this is gonna be sweet! &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> &nbsp;Anyone in the San Luis Obispo county area?? might be cool to roll down there together.

Grant
05-02-2002, 01:22 AM
comon guys REGISTER!!!

http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/regform.html
<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

s15dude
05-02-2002, 01:55 AM
I just registered. Hopefully I have my car ready in time.

mav1178
05-06-2002, 01:58 AM
So far, we have the following sponsors:

Mossy Nissan (of Oceanside, CA)
Superior Nissan (of Puente Hills, CA)
Hotshot Performance
Phase 2 Motortrend (Donating East Bear S13 and S14 tension rod, 3 S13/14 front strut bar and 3 S13 rear strut bar, and 2 pairs of East Bear 180SX front turn signals)
Meguiar's (Donating car care kits @ $50 each)
MotoRex
Project D (Donating Initial D Model Kit, Endless brake pads, model Skyline)
JSpec.com (Donating S14 kouki wing, used Tomei steering wheel, Nismo fuel cap)
Freshalloy.com
SR20Store.com
JWT (Donating S13 and S14 pop-charger)
McKinney Motorsport (Donating B&M short shifter)
N-Sport/GTPro

(The "donations" are for the raffle drawing.)

More to come.

-alex

adey
05-06-2002, 04:15 AM
That's a hefty list of sponsors! Good stuff. It looks to be official now though; I won't be able to make it! I'm going to be in Shanghai... but my 240 and I will be at the meet in SPIRIT!!
Does that qualify me for the raffle draws? &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> &nbsp;

I'm really disappointed I can't make it... I s'ppose I'll have to wait 'til next year, or whenever we eventually have something like this again in LA! Pity. It's useless that I'll make seven-stock; I can't even make a 240 meet! *sigh* I envy all who will be there!

mav1178
05-08-2002, 02:59 AM
One note about convention:

If you are planning on participating in the track event, but are unsure of your current plans (whether it be funds, or scheduling, or both, or other reasons), I still high recommend you register for convention ASAP regardless of whether or not you can afford the track event portion.

I say this because the space for the track event is very limited, and once May 31st passes SpeedTrial will open the remaining spaces to everyone to register. I can "hold" the space for you if you register, but you are only confirmed for the spot when you pay your track fee in full.

So far, the breakdown of the run groups is as followed:

Advanced - 2
Intermediate A - 8
Intermediate B - 7
Beginner - 15

There will be a max of 25 per run group, NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

If you have any Q's about the event, don't hesitate to ask!

-alex

Tyler Durdan
05-10-2002, 11:12 AM
damn it!!! I'm coming that way in the beginning of June for a vacation.
<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> Looks like I might be putting the road trip off a month, unless you guys want to rearrange the convention for June.... <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

onebadm5
05-10-2002, 11:17 AM
i signed up, but im going as a guest of s15dude; we're gonna tow his s13 up.

i call shottie in the truck <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

mav1178
05-10-2002, 10:57 PM
I have finally been able to secure the rates for the track event hotel.

Track event hotel:
Park Plaza Lancaster-Palmdale (formerly Essex House)
44916 North 10th Street West
Lancaster, California 93534
Call Toll Free For Reservations
(800) 670-7275
E-mail: [email protected]
(661) 948-0961
FAX (661) 945-3821

$60/night for a single adult per room
$70/night for two adults per room
$90/night for 4 adults per room

http://www.bigpages.com/essexhouse/home.asp

There is no deadline to reserve rooms, but space is available on a first
come, first serve basis. &nbsp;This hotel is about 10 miles from the track (as
opposed to 110+ miles from the hotel in La Mirada), and will be the location
for the tech inspections for the night prior to the track event.

-alex
www.socal240sx.org

mav1178
05-15-2002, 02:21 AM
There are 15 more days until the early registration deadline!

So far, we have over 60 people registered for the convention, guaranteeing
this to be one of the largest 240SX events, ever.

A new list of sponsors (and donated items) can be found here:
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/sponsors.html

Updates:

- We are still working on getting Mr. Yukawa and some Nismo staff from Japan
to come out.

- A special raffle prize will be announced later, involving a NASPORT GT3
race car!

- The track event is filling up fast. &nbsp;So far we have:
.Advanced - 3
.Intermediate A - 10
.Intermediate B - 10
.Beginner - 27

Tommy @ Speedtrial has given me until the end of the month to preregister
any one for the track event. &nbsp;After May 31st, the remaining spaces will be
open to other groups on his priority waiting list (starting with SoCal DSM
Club/Road Race Engineering).

I am still looking for people to be leads of various caravans from different
parts of the country. &nbsp;So far Doug Schmidt has agreed to set up a last-leg
caravan from Las Vegas on down.

Register before the deadline or else the price will go up! &nbsp;Don't miss out!

-alex

wingsnthangs
05-18-2002, 05:42 PM
have any caravans to the convention been organized for Torrance/310 area yet? if not, when will it be organized and how will we know?

mav1178
05-20-2002, 02:21 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wingsnthangs @ May 18 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">have any caravans to the convention been organized for Torrance/310 area yet? if not, when will it be organized and how will we know?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No caravans from Torrance will be organized because it is just too damn close to the event in terms of distance... &nbsp;Plus, I'm certainly not going to organize any caravans b/c of the bad experiences (read: MANY OF THEM) I've had with people screwing around in caravans.

-alex

mav1178
05-21-2002, 03:52 PM
It is now confirmed that the HKS 180SX drag car will be at the 2002 240SX National Convention. &nbsp;

More info on the car can be found here:
http://www.hksusa.com/forums....=Events (http://www.hksusa.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1058&FORUM_ID=7&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=HKS+DRAG+180SX+sets+new+record+at+NHRA +Englishtown&Forum_Title=Events)

-alex

SQ-XcON S13
05-28-2002, 10:54 PM
Let's go, go, go!! &nbsp;I was just thinking...since were gonna be in front of Nissan's head's, wouldn't this be a good opportunity for us to show them that we want the S15 out here???....Just random thoughts...aiitte, laters all.

SQ-XcON S13
05-29-2002, 10:03 PM
Hi Alex, I just registered today (right now) but it's the 30th of May today. &nbsp;I plan on sending a check or money order but that's going to have to happen tommorow which is the 31st. &nbsp;Would I still qualify for the discounted price or will I be late and have to pay more? &nbsp;Can you let me know on this? &nbsp;THanks. &nbsp;You can contact me on aim at 'JasonsFinalSn' or email me at '[email protected]' &nbsp;This convention/meet sounds like fun and I look forward in meeting all you peeps there. &nbsp;laters.

Jason

mav1178
05-31-2002, 02:53 AM
Two points for you:

1) No matter what you say, the S15 will never show up, so just don't think about it.

2) If it's not postmarked by tomorrow you pay extra.

-alex

SQ-XcON S13
05-31-2002, 10:08 PM
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mav1178
06-07-2002, 01:22 PM
If anyone is looking to purchase road race helmets, one of the sponsors is providing a group buy on Bell helmets.

The following are available:

Bell Mag 4
SR Pro
M2
Sport II

Please email me in private for more information.

-alex

Silverx240sx
06-08-2002, 02:09 AM
When are the peeps from NorCal going to leave for the meet? &nbsp;Thursday or Friday morning? &nbsp;Maybe we can set up a caravan with the Northwest leg. &nbsp;There's a few of us from the northwest that are planning to go. &nbsp;It would be cool to see a caravan of 240sx's. &nbsp;

Email me for details.

Thank you.

TJ
'96 S14
Medford, Oregon
[email protected]

S13Grl
06-10-2002, 06:25 PM
S14Guy and I are coming. &nbsp;(taking his S14)

If anyone else is planning to go from Chicago, please contact me.

See you all there!

BadMoJo
06-10-2002, 11:55 PM
damn, all the way from Chicago.... You are crazy girl, thats cool. &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

I will be there. My car will most likely still be damaged though. &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

gunmetals13
06-11-2002, 02:59 AM
and im moving out to LA from chicago .. heh glad yall will visit;]

mav1178
06-12-2002, 12:52 AM
In case you guys are wondering about the breakdown of registered convention
attendees, here it is, as of the 12th of June:

STATES
AZ 6
CA 81
CO 3
FL 1
GA 2
MO 1
MN 1
NC 1
NE 1
NM 1
NV 1
NY 2
OK 1
OR 2
TX 2
UT 1
WA 3
CANADA 2 (both from BC)
NAVY 1
TOTAL 113

CARS
1989 15
1990 13
1991 21
1992 5
1993 10
1994 0
1995 13
1996 11
1997 7
1998 8
TOTAL 103

S13 64
S14 39
TOTAL 103

ATTENDANCE (by day)
Day 1 77
Day 2 104
Day 3 68

TRACK EVENT
Beginner 39
Intermediate A 15
Intermediate B 13
Advanced 4
TOTAL 71

If you are planning any caravans or meetings prior to the event, please use
this information to your advantage.

-alex
www.socal240sx.org

Silverx240sx
06-13-2002, 09:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mav1178 @ June 12 2002,01:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In case you guys are wondering about the breakdown of registered convention
attendees, here it is, as of the 12th of June:

STATES
AZ 6
CA 81
CO 3
FL 1
GA 2
MO 1
MN 1
NC 1
NE 1
NM 1
NV 1
NY 2
OK 1
OR 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I would like to ask who the other person from Oregon is. &nbsp;Email me off-list at [email protected] &nbsp;BTW I'm in Medford. &nbsp;

TJ

lVll2. S14
06-14-2002, 02:18 AM
yo mav me and a friend are gunna go to this thing. the only problem is that IM ONLY 17. will i need a guardian with me or something when im on the track??? will they even let me on the track? lol. i dont turn eighteen until september. the friend that is going with me, he is 20. im bringing down my 95 240sx..hehe i scored this car thru a series of 8 months of saving up. (not bad for a 17 year old huh?) anyway im just wondering how long do i have to sign up for the track i mean like how many spaces are there left and how long do you think it will take to fill up. i need some time to wear down my parents but im pretty sure i can break them. i can pay the deposit now if you tell me that there spaces left.
P.S &nbsp; could you help me find a few peeps that are coming down that live around me? i live in the sunset district of san francisco.
http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/ml2.s14/0019.jpg

lVll2. S14
06-14-2002, 02:47 AM
im hopefully going to bring along 4 other people please let me know if there is room for them at the event. thx.
http://members.roadfly.com/akc415/0019.gif

mav1178
06-14-2002, 04:53 PM
1) The other person from Oregon is Patrick Hall. &nbsp;He'll probably be trailering his car down, since it is now a race car... &nbsp;(If he sounds familiar, that's b/c he wrote the 300ZX brake install page on www.240sx.org)

2) If you are not 18 years old, you will need your parent's explicit consent that they will allow you to attend the event and allow you to attend the track event. &nbsp;For the convention itself, you must give me written consent from your parents in order for me to allow you to register. &nbsp;For the track event, you must have a parent or guardian on-site if you wish to run at the event, or you must have written consent from your parents/guardian to give an adult permission to be your "guardian" that weekend. &nbsp;Please note that this is not to restrict your freedom, but rather to watch out for potential hazards and to make sure that liability of the actions of attendees are kept to themselves. &nbsp;A legal issue, if you will.

-alex

TropicalJewel
06-19-2002, 08:28 PM
Hey I am driving in from Albuquerque, NM. &nbsp;If anyone knows of any caravans passing thru., let me know. &nbsp;
Laterz,
Monique
[email protected]

s13rookie
06-20-2002, 12:42 AM
DOES ANY ONE WANT TO RENT ME A COUCH? &nbsp;im very interested in attending the meet. &nbsp;i have enought to pay for the airfare and event loot, but am trying to avoid paying for a hotel for a few nights, i live in ct, so if any one from around here is driving and interested in picking up a paying passenger, please let me know, thanks a lot, &nbsp; matt

mav1178
07-01-2002, 02:18 PM
Anyone want to go to convention?

Raffle update (and I'm sure you will alllll love it):

Grand prize (so far) for raffle:

One Kaaz 1.5 way or 2 way limited slip differential.

In addition, ACT is donating one clutch set of your choice from their catalog.

The list gets longer and longer...

-alex

mav1178
07-02-2002, 12:30 PM
Updates:

- Holiday Inn contacted us today and informed us that so far only 2 people have reserved a room with them under the "240SX Convention" name. &nbsp;I would just like to let everyone know that the deadline for reserving a room at Holiday Inn is July 8th. &nbsp;If you haven't reserved a room yet, do it ASAP. &nbsp;If you have, please email me in private and let me know which names you reserved under, so we can coordinate things.

- Some people have asked about how to reserve a room for the hotel at the track. &nbsp;The hotel at the track is the official hotel for any race event at Willow Springs International Raceway, and when you reserve a room you must state that you are attending a track event at Willow Springs. &nbsp;Mention SpeedTrialUSA and the date, but don't mention the 240SX Convention. &nbsp;If you call in and say "I want a room, and I am registering with the 240SX convention track event", they won't know what you are talking about. &nbsp;The rates listed for Willow Springs are rates for all attendees of track events at Willow Springs.

- There are less than 8 spots left for the track event. &nbsp;If you wish to run, please pay RIGHT NOW. &nbsp;Once the remaining spots are filled, there will be no more spots left. &nbsp;SpeedTrial has an extra run group open for Sunday, but it is only open to advanced group drivers.

-alex

mr0072003
07-02-2002, 02:19 PM
hey Alex,
&nbsp; &nbsp; I registerd the for the Speedzone and Headquartes meet for the convention and have sent the check today, for 65. &nbsp;But my question is i have two guest that i signed up for, but do the pay the 65 too, or just for the food shirts etc, on a seperate basis. &nbsp;They will be comming with mw in my car. &nbsp;Just let me know. &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>


BTY: used to be part of 240sx.org too, but was dropped becasue I lost net connection. &nbsp;But I will being joining again soon.

drifting240sx
07-02-2002, 02:26 PM
hey alex
i just sent the money through paypal yesterday to [email protected] it was sent by [email protected] its intended for me Cole Viernes. email [email protected] i am wondering if you have recived it?

mav1178
07-02-2002, 05:01 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mr0072003 @ July 02 2002,3:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey Alex,
I registerd the for the Speedzone and Headquartes meet for the convention and have sent the check today, for 65. But my question is i have two guest that i signed up for, but do the pay the 65 too, or just for the food shirts etc, on a seperate basis. They will be comming with mw in my car. Just let me know. <img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
If your guest wishes to attend the Speedzone event, they MUST pay in advance.

You can register a "package" for each of your friends/guests, but please specify their full name when you pay. &nbsp;Also note that they are a guest of yours. &nbsp;They do not need to fill out the registration form.

-alex

mav1178
07-02-2002, 05:01 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drifting240sx @ July 02 2002,3:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey alex
i just sent the money through paypal yesterday to [email protected] it was sent by [email protected] its intended for me Cole Viernes. email [email protected] i am wondering if you have recived it?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes I got it.

-alex

mr0072003
07-02-2002, 11:15 PM
k looks,
&nbsp;Like my guest will only show on Sat.....does he still pay...for food and stuff at the HQ...or 40 dollas..

Pete &nbsp;<img src="#/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

mav1178
07-04-2002, 02:01 PM
If anyone still needs a helmet for the track event, please email me in private ASAP. &nbsp;The last order for the helmets will be made early next week.

-alex

mav1178
07-11-2002, 01:25 AM
Hi guys, a bit over two weeks until convention.

A few things:

1) The last day we will take registration and payment is the 22nd of July. &nbsp;If you do not register or pay by that date, we will consider your registration invalid. &nbsp;The most important reason to register is so that we can account for your car in the parking lot. &nbsp;All attendees who register will have a parking spot, while those that just "show up" will get whatever (crappy) space that is left over.

2) If you are interested in attending the Speedzone event, you must register and pay me no later than next Friday (the 19th of July). &nbsp;If you have a guest who wants to attend the Speedzone event, please send payment and their information to me as soon as possible.

3) There have been difficulties for some of you trying to get a hotel room at the track. &nbsp;When you call the track hotel, tell them that you are attending a track event at Willow Springs the following day (the 28th) and if they ask if you are "participating/driving" on the track, say yes. &nbsp;If you don't, you won't get the rates that are offered to attendees of the track event.

4) In case any of you want to attend the track event, a few guys have cancelled on me at the last minute, so a few spots are open for the track event.

Thanks!

-alex
www.socal240sx.org

Danio
07-12-2002, 07:21 PM
I asked Holiday Inn and they said their check in time is 3:00 PM. Can the caravan to Speedzone leave after that instead of at 3:00, so people can check in to their hotel rooms and drop off their stuff first?

Danio
07-13-2002, 01:48 PM
I've made a request in the Chat forum for someone in SoCal to guide the NorCal caravan to the Holiday Inn at La Mirada. Feel free to volunteer. =)

Chat forum thread (#/f/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=12646;st=0)

mav1178
07-15-2002, 12:57 AM
There are several regional caravans taking place...

Northern California:
Organized by Daniel Kwan
http://www.danzeth.com/240sx/convention2002.html

Arizona:
T.Y.(Ryan) Yap
[email protected]

Las Vegas:
Doug Schmidt, Owner
ICE Performance, Las Vegas
702-739-3456
[email protected]

If you are coming in from out of town, you will pretty much pass through at
least one of these 3 points (Northwest thru NorCal,
Colorado/Midwest/Atlantic states thru Las Vegas, South/Texas thru Arizona).

If you are interested in arranging another caravan, please email me in
private and I will post it on the convention website.

-alex
www.socal240sx.org

mav1178
07-24-2002, 11:14 PM
Hi guys, less than 2 days until the BIGGEST 240SX event EVER!!! =)

Here are some last minute details:

- We have closed registration for the event. &nbsp;There are no more spaces
available for the track event. &nbsp;If you were interested in attending
individual events, pricing is as follows:

Friday Speedzone event: &nbsp;$40 to enter room and have dinner, and get in on
the game cards. &nbsp;Free to spectate/hang out as long as you are not inside the
conference room.

Saturday Nissan NA event: &nbsp;$30 registration at the door, but no reserved
parking space and no lanyard (we are out of them). &nbsp;Free to spectate or just
to hang out...

Sunday SpeedTrialUSA track event: &nbsp;$10 fee collected at the gate, passengers
ride for free in intermediate/advanced group cars ONLY. &nbsp;No passengers
allowed in beginner group driver cars unless you are an instructor.

- The skidpad will be blocked off for use on Sunday, but we can only allow
people that have signed up for the event to use the skidpad (you must
display a tech sticker at all times in order to use the skidpad).

- As of right now, we have about $8500 in product donations to raffle off.
A complete list of raffle products can be found at
http://www.socal240sx.org/convention/agenda_day2.html. &nbsp;Raffle tickets are
available for sale on Saturday.

- For those of you interested in showing up on Saturday, the event
officially starts at 10AM and goes till about 4PM.

And for a bit of sad news...

Unfortunately the Signal Auto S15 will not be at the event... it will be in
Utah at the Bonneville Salt Flats doing some testing runs... however, their
180SX &nbsp;will be at the event, as well as many other rare show cars and
"celebrity" cars.

As of 10PM PDT tonight, we have 160 confirmed registered attendees... and
this doesn't include any of their guests, or enthusiasts from other
automotive groups!

Hope to see you all at convention in 2 days! &nbsp;w00t!!!

I'll be happy to answer any questions via private email.

-alex
www.socal240sx.org