paint question...need help asap

[95civicEX]

ok I just got back from the bodyshop, my car was supposed to be black with mild metallic and a violet pearl...instead it's purple with a heavy metallic...there's not much I can do about it, I bought all the supplies, a guy painted it for me, but there's no warranty or garauntee so it's on me to fix it if I want it fixed...is there any kind of pearl or clearcoat that will darken the color? like a transparent black (like the stuff used to smoke taillights..but for the whole car)?

any help would be greatly appreciated as I felt completely nautious as I looked at the car in it's current state...I want the metallic dimmed (the car has so much it almost looks silver) and the purple turned more towards a midnight or black...

thanks
alden

[Blues13]

Haha, sorry to hear that. Usually you ask them to spray it on a small plastic car/curved surface as a test sample so you know what you will be getting. Post pics up if you can.

[infinitexsound]

should of done a drop down test panel.... umm repaint maybe 1 or 2 coats of black and and 1-2 coats of pearl will do it\

[infinitexsound]

edit delete this one....

[420sx]

can u plz post a pick?? dieing to see that color

[infinitexsound]

dark purple with very little metallic i persume.... pearl is suppose to be a sidecast thing its not suppose to overpower the black... sadd.. for the guy. money kinda went downt the drain.....

[MakotoS13]

man, this is called a learning experience. you should have had a test panel sprayed, simple as that. i'd live with a decent paint job and just get it repainted when i got around to it than screwing with it right now. you need to let the paint cure and everything anyhow.\

i say see if the paint job grows on you then in a few months redo it if it still bugs you. your money is spent either way

[95civicEX]

man, this is called a learning experience. you should have had a test panel sprayed, simple as that. i'd live with a decent paint job and just get it repainted when i got around to it than screwing with it right now. you need to let the paint cure and everything anyhow.\

i say see if the paint job grows on you then in a few months redo it if it still bugs you. your money is spent either way


yeah it really comes down to the fact that I'm a complete idiot...

well, I went back and looked at it today...it's not as absolutely hideous as I thought yesterday...but yeah, it's going to take a lot, a lot of getting use to...I talked to the guy to find out how much paint I had left, and it looks like I would basically have to buy the paint and the clear all over again...I'm really not sure I want to spend that much money on this car (as the first time around was more of a "well it's cheaper than going to a bodyshop, so why not")...so I'm going to put it back together and see if it grows on me, if not, I'll probably just put it up for sale.

pictures:
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/urple01.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/urple02.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/urple03.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/urple04.jpg

[mr_240sx]

i dont think that its ugly, its just "different" lol

[95civicEX]

i dont think that its ugly, its just "different" lol


yeah that's more what I was thinking when I saw it this morning...more like a "I'd never pick this in a million years, but not the worst color in the world"

if nothing else, my wife said she'd be willing to drive it to spare me the shame :rofl:

[mr_240sx]

yeah that's more what I was thinking when I saw it this morning...more like a "I'd never pick this in a million years, but not the worst color in the world"

if nothing else, my wife said she'd be willing to drive it to spare me the shame :rofl:
bahahha.... im sure i would drive a car with that paint, it will just get some getting used to though.

[luisgonz]

so the paint is single or two stage i think i saw you type two stage but yeah you can darken it with another coat of paint with a mixed color you want.....but you have to give even coats to cover it up it works ...........leave it if its going to be anything but a daily drive ,If that what is going to be you should change color........sorry dude. But that shit is a cool color leave it.really no joke

[llteddy4playll]

That metallic color over the velvet is just too much. I was thinking about painting mine black with pearl velvet.

[chmercer]

thats pimp. i wish my car looked like that. but you need some 18" chrome and way way lower. then it will be totally gangster.

[SochBAT]

Damn... it would have looked chill if it wasn't for the glitter. Looks like RibbonDancer Barbie owned your car with glitter.

Personally, i think he did a shit job painting it. Doesn't look all that even to me. Then again, my car is a crashcar. Just my 2cents

[infinitexsound]

less metallic forreal the flakes are huge...
that shit is candy low rider statis. .................... repaint............ go black with purple pearl.......... u can repaint after 12 hours... doesnt take that long for paint to cure unless ur painting a car in antartica.... its dry right now...600 grit sand that shit and repaint it now while shit is still r&i....just go buy some black cheapest dark black about 150 for a gallon thats enough to do a whole car.. and get whats left of the pearl and spray like 2 coats... cover the fukn car completely with black.... get rid of all that metallic crap shit looks fukn gay... do it mang. and man the painter sucks he didnt even cover the paint too good look at the edges of every panel u can tell its fukn light...

[MakotoS13]

dude my first paint job got screwed up so i just considered it a REALLY good sealer coat and had it redone.

paint that hoe white or yellow and call it a day. something simple to just get you by.


for real though... i take back my previous statement.... you cna't drive it like that... yich.

edit: do NOT listen to the guy that says you can repaint in 12 hours cause he's full of it. you need to wait at least a week before you start jacking with it. two weeks is best. this way all the molecules in the paint will be settled into their new home so you can sand it off super smooth like.

if you repaint it within 12 hours you'll regret it.

[420sx]

i dont see why are you tripping. this would looks real sweet with a nice kit/ a lil lower. with some spacers for wheels.

i think its gonna stand out, very original haha. keep it

[420sx]

leave it like that. very original color, not worth to waste more on paint. u need to SLAM it. wheels or spacers for those wheels. and a nice kit. it will look gangsta. dont be so upset, it looks very unique at least

[xtreme_s14]

that color looks pretty cool! it's just on the wrong car.. if you put that color on a fastback with the rooftop completely black with kouki taillights.. that would look HOT! so hot.. i'd trade my kouki s14 for it! second thought.. no! but it'd look hot!

[007jpang]

spray paint the wheels pink and you got your self a pimpin barbie car....

[TheTicTac]

It's not a bad color, but on my computer I can notice the door seams and whatnot. I don't know if it's just the reflection or whatever but to me it makes the paint job shitty, not the choice of color.

[SochBAT]

Barbie: 1, you: 0

[Big Daddy]

Holy Hell!!! That is hidious! sorry for what happened bro. Can't he just sand/wet sand some of the flakes off?

[justinhustle]

worst fuckin sig ever ^^^^^

[Big Daddy]

yeah that's more what I was thinking when I saw it this morning...more like a "I'd never pick this in a million years, but not the worst color in the world"

if nothing else, my wife said she'd be willing to drive it to spare me the shame :rofl:
:rofl: Your wife is a good woman man :rawk:

[Big Daddy]

worst fuckin sig ever ^^^^^
i know huh ;) I'll tone is done when i get a chance. :bigok:

[95civicEX]

the big issue that I'm running into now is the obvious fact that whether or not I wanted it this color combination, the metallic is certainly not sprayed evenly (door james and body line breaks are much heavier) and so I'm looking into other paints and will talk to him about redoing the entire car.

it looks like I'll be buying some HOK black sparkle pearl and some new clear and give it another try.

[Pank]

are you sure they didnt use driveway gravel instead of pearl/metallic flake?

[Blues13]

Haha,... I hate the color man, sorry. You gotta be one hardcore drift monkey to get away with that color. Good luck though.

Is it me, or is the clearcoat super thin and uneven? That finish is gonna fade and dull real quick..

[95civicEX]

yeah, I thought about starting a jem and the rockers drift team, but that dream was short lived as I just don't think I have the ego for it...I'm on the hunt for stock black paint, no more of this custom nonsense as I guess I just don't have the budget to have it done right and custom at the same time...

as for the clearcoat, the problem isn't that it's too thin, there are 3 coats on there, but the first coat which included the metallic was sprayed completely undevenly.

[Thorpedo]

You could just have the guy sand it down (not breaking through to any of the color though) and spray two or three coats of way over reduced black(400-500%) then reclear. It'd be the cheapest fix and it would darken it immensely. but you run in to the problem of having a lot of material on every panel(thickness wise) so it would a bit more brittle(easier for rock chips). If you told the guy you want a mild-metallic look, why in the hell did he put it in the clearcoat. If he would of put half the amount of the metalliic/pearl he used into the base, it wouldnt look nearly as bad.

I cant tell on my screen since its dark as hell, but is there just too much purple pearl in it so it makes the black appear purple or is it just straight up purple in color?

[Big Daddy]

yeah, I thought about starting a jem and the rockers drift team, but that dream was short lived as I just don't think I have the ego for it...I'm on the hunt for stock black paint, no more of this custom nonsense as I guess I just don't have the budget to have it done right and custom at the same time...

as for the clearcoat, the problem isn't that it's too thin, there are 3 coats on there, but the first coat which included the metallic was sprayed completely undevenly.
:rofl: Jem, damn my wife would love that. She's an 80's toy collector.
Maybe i'll build her a Jem Drifter. :rawk:

[MakotoS13]

the big issue that I'm running into now is the obvious fact that whether or not I wanted it this color combination, the metallic is certainly not sprayed evenly (door james and body line breaks are much heavier) and so I'm looking into other paints and will talk to him about redoing the entire car.

okay, i say use the fact that thepainter didn't paint it very well as leverage to get you a discount on a few coats of white or some other simple basecoat with some clear.

whoever sprayed it screwed up around all the edges and you should get a discount especially since he wasted the paint you already bought. (eventhough it is hideous).

think like a business man and get a killer discount at least.

[infinitexsound]

^ this man speaks the truth......... get something out of it since the painter sucked ballz.. go black, purple or blue pearl... and leave it at that.... if u had bought a gallon of nason clear(aka dupont) u would of been in the clear w/ clear...500 DA everything and grey scotch brite all the edges... quick easy prep... tape and paint ....

[95civicEX]

here're the latest pictures:

http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/da01.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/da02.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/da03.jpg

18 hours of sanding with a DA sander and it's almost ready for primer again...loads of fun :D

[s14turbosilvia]

Nice bass boat sparkle man. I dunno if I'd touch that thing with a 10 foot pole. Maybe if it was solid purple, but with the little glitter sparkles in there....ooo man, sucks to be you.

So you picked the paint out yourself? Just get it repainted for a few hundred. Mistakes happen, oops.

[95civicEX]

^ this is why you read the last post in the thread before replying.

[ZK]

That purple paint looks pretty horribly done. The finish looked matte in the pictures and the pearl was unevenly applied.

Good to see that you're giving it another go. I'd definitely go with a better painter this time around.

If you want a black color with some purple pearl thrown in try the 2000 Civic Si Flamingo Black Pearl. It's black but if you look at it closely there's purple metallic pearl in it. Mixing custom colors are a hit or miss... mostly miss.

[reefer1114]

good luck...

[Pank]

actually, the side of the car now looks pretty fucking cool. I'd throw some pearl and clear coat on it and call it a day. you'd have the most unique car out there.

[infinitexsound]

daymn i didnt think u guys would seriously go to to town on that thing, like removing all of the paint... but big ups for not being a hack... its good tho that u guys are priming it again. but id hate to be the one blocking a whole car..... dope.... remember do a test panel before paint.. just so that u would know what it would look like before hand... aite dude..........

[95civicEX]

yeah the car is definitely getting a test panel this time around :D

as for blocking the car, this is my second time around doing so, the first time only about 2/3 of the car ended up in primer, but there's not a whole ton of difference between 2/3 and the whole thing...and that's what friends and family are for :)

[docrice]

as i read the first post, i thought "well it can't be that bad"....then i saw the picture...

damn man, looks like they went "pimp yo ride" on that car...

sorry dude, life sucks.

[kandyflip445]

There is a dark purple color on the Pontiac GTO that might match what you're looking for. Go to a dealer and check it out if you haven't got the paint already.

[jjg25]

Oh god... after seeing that I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[infinitexsound]

^ Idiot..........!

[95civicEX]

There is a dark purple color on the Pontiac GTO that might match what you're looking for. Go to a dealer and check it out if you haven't got the paint already.


thanks, but I'm just going black this time around.

little update, the doors are off, the fenders are off, the car is almost all masked and ready for primer...will take more pictures once it's primer'd

[infinitexsound]

black with purple pearl, house of kolors purple pearl is like 30 bucks in the paste form......... get that dude.............. mix it with some binder or clear..

[MakotoS13]

dude, make sure you block all that primer in cause you might have just created a whole lot of waves with the DA.

[zenkiDori]

http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/urple04.jpg
dude i think that color rocks! it doesn't look like it was sprayed too well tho.

[S_14.5]

Are you just going SS black??? Or are you going to add a little something else to it since you went through all that work already?

[95civicEX]

dude, make sure you block all that primer in cause you might have just created a whole lot of waves with the DA.

there're definitely waves, I don't think it's possible to get anything perfectly smooth with a da, so yeah, the plan has always been to block the primer...isn't that what you always do?

Are you just going SS black??? Or are you going to add a little something else to it since you went through all that work already?

it's going to be a pure black, darker than the factory nissan black.

[mr_240sx]

is it me or he also painted your wheels???

[95civicEX]

is it me or he also painted your wheels???


I thought someone already asked this?...anyways, no the wheels didn't get any overspray, they're just filthy from all the wetsanding done prior to paint.

[95civicEX]

almost everything got painted between yesterday and today, which means I'm actually ahead of schedule by about a week. tomorrow the bumpers and mirrors are getting painted, finishing everything up, then it's just a matter of reassembly.

here're the pictures, I apologize if anyone has dialup :)
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black01.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black02.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black03.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black04.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black05.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black06.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black07.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black08.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/black09.jpg

[infinitexsound]

sweet, man i really do miss working in a bodyshop......brings me back to good times

[95civicEX]

sweet, man i really do miss working in a bodyshop......brings me back to good times

I could never do it for a living, but I'm looking forward to a day I own my own house and can restore/customize cars in the garage...a personal paint booth would be quite nice :yum:

[Ritz S14]

Damn that looks good!!!! I should post progress pics of my coupe as well..but that's a different thread :D

[infinitexsound]

i could if the co workers are cool and boss is not a dick..... if u plan on getting a booth @ ur house plan on talkin with ur local Gov... in CA its totally legal to paint a 3'x3' panel a day... anything else is kinda asking for trouble.... but yeah i miss working @ a bodyshop... i really do...

[kandyflip445]

Nice. I love black on cars. Looks much better than the glitter barbie paintjob.

[aa87]

Damn nice, how much did that cost? in materials, labor?

[95civicEX]

I got it all back together today, almost at least...the antennae decided that when it powered up it would just keep going and popped right out, then it wouldn't retract at all and the motor just kept running...so I ordered a new one, should look pretty good once it comes in - http://locustom.com/shark2_kit.htm about a third the price of stock and a whole lot better looking :D


but yes, on to bigger and better things here are a couple of pictures from the apartment. I washed the car but as you can see just driving down the highway for 5 minutes brought out all sorts of dirt and water out of the cracks so it'll need to be washed again...the interior was also cleaned but it really needs a thorough detailing to get decent again:

http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/home01.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/home02.jpg
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/home03.jpg

and the money shot :D
http://www.amackie.com/93240sx/home04.jpg
^I left this from the original paint job just so I would never forget how it looked, if I ever get sick of it, I'll just grab another from a junkyard for $20 and switch it out.

Damn nice, how much did that cost? in materials, labor?

the materials for everything (which includes tape, masking paper etc) is probably right around the $350-400 range, but remember this is the second time around :)

I got the paint from a different guy this time, if you're really interested pm me and I'll give you his info (he owns the company that makes the paint but doesn't really market it himself), I didn't bite the local shop bullet and paid half the price for better product. The labor was all done by myself except for the actual painting which cost 170 the first time and 75 the second time around (military perk and the guy that painted it and I are now friends so he cut me a deal).

[kandyflip445]

Looks nice. The doors look like they could have used some more prep though. That's funny that you left the center console that way. Time to get yourself a car duster. I use mine all the time.

Send me a pic when you get that antenna installed. I want to replace mine.

[infinitexsound]

sweet u need a pull and roll and slammed till the bumper bites the dust..............

[kandyflip445]

Why the hell would he need to pull and roll his fenders with those rims? :loco:

[95civicEX]

yeah there's absolutely no need for a fender roll right now...I'm wanting to get different wheels and tires, but either way I don't ever want my car so low that it requires rolling, I enjoy driving my car rather down the road, I don't want to have to worry about every little stone or dip.

[24Zero]

Really nice! Loose the center console though.

[kenshinS14sks]

you should try to sell that car to the artist formerly known as prince

[smellslikecurry]

sigh all these useless fucking posts...seriously reading comprehension owns almost all of you

cliff notes...
he pwn3d himself by not painting a test panel
painted the car flaming barbie purple metallic
repainted the car black...
kept the center console to remind him of this whole mess

[95civicEX]

sigh all these useless fucking posts...seriously reading comprehension owns almost all of you

cliff notes...
he pwn3d himself by not painting a test panel
painted the car flaming barbie purple metallic
repainted the car black...
kept the center console to remind him of this whole mess

thank you, unfortunantly no one will read this either before they post. :drama:

[infinitexsound]

lol , well its just me tho but id like to see some big differences with all that work... its just looks like a back to stock oem paint job... which is great also...

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

that center console looks alot better then mine...the kid that had the car before me had it strait purple along with all the trim around the AC vents and arm rest. plus he had purple pedals and a shift knob that lit up...total disaster