Drift Factory Car Update 5.20.05 Engine is in! Pics

[driftfactory]

After a long wait, we have finally received our engine.

Click here to find out what it is :) (http://www.driftfactory.com/rb26.php)

[S14DB]

What's so special about an RB26?

[drift freaq]

RB26 is cool, though its not exactly groundbreaking. I mean I am building a RB25 powered S13 as we speak, but I am not announcing it as earth shattering( though its not your standard install) nor would I be announcing a RB26 install as earth shattering.
Don't get me wrong, its cool your doing it, but I think you guys kinda overhyped the whole thing.
If you were the first people to do a RB26 install, that would be pretty earth shattering and groundbreaking, but you guys should know, this stuff is starting to happen all over socal and the country. There is a trend towards RB's already as a alternative to the SR.
Sorry, but I think you built us up to letdown. You really made it sound like you were doing something completely different. RB's are an alternative not completely different IMHO.

[driftfactory]

We didn't ever say it was going to be earth shattering. However, no one has done an RB the way we are doing one. Instead of swapping in the motor and using standard aftermarket parts, we have designed this thing from the ground up specifically for the RB26. That is why we had custom coilovers made. We not only wanted a RB26 in a 240, we wanted a 240 designed around an RB26. We didn't realize that there was that much hype surrounding this. We just wanted to make sure that the motor was good to go before announcing it. We looked long and hard for an RB26 and we got the story from a lot of major importers (a few that are known for RB26s) that RBs are getting very hard to find even in Japan. We hope that this changes because we would like to see a lot more RB26s in US cars.

[s14turbosilvia]

My first idea for an SR swap alternative was an RB, and I would still be sticking with it to this day if it didn't cost $12,000+! But needless to say, the RB is still teh sex and if you can top it, then show us what you got!

[Ian]

not to bash, because i get what you're trying to do...but what else did you have built from the ground up in order to house this RB26 besides the custom coilovers?

[Drunk Bastard]

is that a SKYLINE motor?!?!?! :eek3: :eek3:

[driftfactory]

We have done a lot of reinforcement to the frame and we have designed some of the systems to be located in other areas of the chassis in order to even the weight. We are also changing a few things around so that we can keep the twins without running into super heating issues. The bay on an s13 is a lot smaller so in order to keep the turbos from heat sinking we are going to be screwing with the under protect and engine bay venting.

[drift freaq]

My first idea for an SR swap alternative was an RB, and I would still be sticking with it to this day if it didn't cost $12,000+! But needless to say, the RB is still teh sex and if you can top it, then show us what you got!
heh, no offense but you seem to like to call people out, hahhahahhahha :rofl:
P.S. if I did not think it was cool and sex!!! as you say, then I would not be doing a RB install myself.
P.P.S. I prefer sex with a women hahahhahha :rofl:

[420sx]

would be my choice of motor for a drift car, but i wish you luck with the car. will be surely unique in its own kind of way

[SochBAT]

Woohoo! Don't bash on DF's choices. Y do you get the SR when the KA is more than enuff power to whip tires out?

[sepulchral]

are you gunna leave the motor stock and just use the sufficient power it already has?

[SochBAT]

I saw get an APC bench on the trunk, so whenever you head to the park, you've got one on your trunk.

Any aero mods (although im not a real cosmetics person)?

[Irukandji]

haha you zilvians are just jealous asses... "just an rb26?" ?

nice job df

[ZK]

Well, you don't have to do stuff to be original. That's stupid. Do stuff because you like it and you'll be much more happy. RB26 is sweet.

[*NismoS13*]

Nice RB26, I look forward to seeing more progress being made to your car...keep us updated!

-Adam

[Var]

did you guys bother weighing the engine? care to share some info so i can really realize how much more the LS1 kicks ass.

[420sx]

i really wish some company would build a drift car with blown out 302 or ls1

[sepulchral]

i really wish some company would build a drift car with blown out 302 or ls1

i really wish they wouldn't atleast not to an s-chassis

[The Riot Hero]

the rb26 in stock form is heavy freakin bitch. horrid for a drift car in my opinion, theres no evening out the weight when you have so much extra weight hanging over the front of the cross member, unless you mount it 10 inches into the firewall it kinda sucks. i dont think i like the direction the car is going but you guys will probably still beat me at events.

[TheTicTac]

i really wish some company would build a drift car with blown out 302


You mean like FORD with their '05 mustang that ken drives. :yum:

[G_Fish240]

You mean like FORD with their '05 mustang that ken drives. :yum:
I don't think thats a 302...

[sepulchral]

After a long wait, we have finally received our engine.

Click here to find out what it is :) (http://www.driftfactory.com/rb26.php)


are you going to run custom motormoutns or mckinney, also what kind of tie rods do you plan on upgrading to/?

[MakotoS13]

You mean like FORD with their '05 mustang that ken drives. :yum:

wrong: that motor is a 4.6 modular. the 302 is the infamous 5.0.

p.s. ever see a 5.7L 6spd S13 that gets 30mpg on the highway?

[raen419]

no one said 5.0.
they said '05.

[driftfactory]

The RB weight issue has been largely over emphasized, almost to urban legend status. Yes, it is a few hundred pounds heavier than the KA or SR. But only a small portion of that is extra weight over the front axel. A large portion of the extra weight comes from the transmission which sits near center on the car. (Weight center not physical center) Even with this weight shift the car’s handling is not going to be disturbed to any significant degree. With proper suspension tuning it can be easily overcome. Sure the handling will be different, but a weight shift of a few percentage points is barely worth noting unless you are in a formula one car.

[wootwoot]

wrong: that motor is a 4.6 modular. the 302 is the infamous 5.0.

p.s. ever see a 5.7L 6spd S13 that gets 30mpg on the highway?


not yet, and I would expect to see better gas mileage than that noting that the Corvette could pull that off with a 350pound surplus

[raen419]

people must believe everything they read.
DF, good luck w/ the installation. i'm interested to see how you guys set everything up to make the RB fit like it would in a skyline.
btw, iirc, a few drifters from japan use the RB25 and 26 in their s13's. one of which, detunes his for drifting (since it sits around 600rwhp for his drag setup). it's not a bad idea, but for people who think lightweight is so important (not so much weight distribution) i guess there are better choices out there, for their "needs."

[SRkouki]

i saw the motor a couple days ago it looks nice. best of luck with the swap.
p.s. i want some free hoodpins damnit! :wiggle:

[TheTicTac]

I don't think thats a 302...

wrong: that motor is a 4.6 modular. the 302 is the infamous 5.0.



Oh you know what, you guys are right it is a 289. I keep thinking it's still a 302.

[Wei240]

yes, its been done, rb25, 26, vq, vg, ls1... sure it's not groundbreaking news for some...

but it is still pretty rare, especially the 2.6 compared to the 2.5

just do your own thing and build it

[driftfactory]

did you guys bother weighing the engine? care to share some info so i can really realize how much more the LS1 kicks ass.

We thought about a lot of different power plants, including some domestics. But as cool as the LS1 motors are they would not be the best choice for our project. LS1s have crazy low end torque. However, the power band is not nearly as wide as we would like and throttle steer would be somewhat problematic with an LS1. The RB26 has a redline that is 2000rpm higher than an LS1. While that may not seem like a lot, it makes a difference.

[bing]

i love how people can complain about DF putting an RB in their S13...

everything else was done nicely, the car will be great and they are taking the time to post up the how-to's on all the major 240sx sites and actually taking the time to respond to ridiculous comments from 18 year old kids who arent even relevant in the industry in so much that DF has nothing to gain from giving some people this much information and attention.

kudos to DF for building a nice car, documenting it well and serving the 240sx community better than alot of their peers in more ways than one.

[ALTRNTV]

^

Word. Get off their nuts.

[sLiDewAys]

ca18det all the way baybe. HAHAHAHAHHA

[drew935]

good deal DF. Build it to your specs. Not for others who will only criticize and then see the finished project and say, "cool. hot.daaamm." :bow:
Because really, they don't know the work involved, that it takes to do it anyway... :rolleyes:

[Var]

We thought about a lot of different power plants, including some domestics. But as cool as the LS1 motors are they would not be the best choice for our project. LS1s have crazy low end torque. However, the power band is not nearly as wide as we would like and throttle steer would be somewhat problematic with an LS1. The RB26 has a redline that is 2000rpm higher than an LS1. While that may not seem like a lot, it makes a difference.


so did you guys weigh the motor or not? also a higher redline doesnt mean much. all you need is a slightly taller final drive .

[tegasaurus]

hell, i've only had a 240 for 6 months... before i was into hondas.... this is just as common of a swap and a k20 in a civic now. its cool and wish i had one, but there are other options.

:aw: r :aw: b :aw: 2 :aw: 6 :aw:

[Nameless RB26]

Cool. I'm doing it too. Whoopity doo.

RB26's are common now.. especially in the Z chassis.

[xtreme_s14]

you know what would be cool? (correct me if this has been done) if they threw in the RB26 and made the 240sx AWD!

i really wish some company would build a drift car with blown out 302 or ls1
this college around my area (cerritos college) made a fully built twin turbo LS1! looked bad ass! i missed it though when they actually started the car.. :-/ it's all good though.. i would've probably made an ass out of myself when they start the car and see pee running down my pants! :eek3: lol

[RSP13-Sideways]

Good luck with the swap DriftFactory.......should come out looking good.

Urban Legend gets rediculous...just like the Honda scene. "The H22A motor in a Civic Hatch will ruin the cornering and weight distribution." Funny thing is the H22A is only a few pounds heavier than a GSR and handeling is perfectly fine unless it's a full blown F1 track car......

Keep us updated!

[aznpoopy]

what's the deal with people nowadays... :down:

congrats on the motor, good luck with the project.

keep us updated, because we are a warm and friendly community, and we enjoy seeing each other build and race cars. :squintd:

[withy]

i seriously can not believe that i am hearing people bash a company, with years of experience mind you, for putting an rb into their car. no, its not earth shattering....but in the 240sx world its ALL been done....all of it. i've even seen a rotory 240sx in the abomonation section on an rx-7 message board.

[Ian]

yeah, i think people are getting too caught up in being anti-bandwagon that they've started to bandwagon into this faction against EVERYONE with a 240...

i say, GOOD WORK! i hope to see you guys on G4 next year while i watch reruns of Formula D footage.

[lucky7]

Oh you know what, you guys are right it is a 289. I keep thinking it's still a 302.

4.6 liter modular = 281 CI. 289's were the origional engine. there was the reg 289 and the 289 "hi-po". sooo, 289 = mustangs from 1960's.

:p

[Janus]

i seriously can not believe that i am hearing people bash a company, with years of experience mind you, for putting an rb into their car. no, its not earth shattering....but in the 240sx world its ALL been done....all of it. i've even seen a rotory 240sx in the abomonation section on an rx-7 message board.

I agree...

It's to the point where if someone isn't swapping a Ferrari V12, or a 502 V8, than they are wasting everyones time...

It's a 240. Without spendsing unecessary amounts of time + money swapping something that doenst belong there, choose your preference between the KA/CA/SR/RB.

[raen419]

people just bitch b/c they think they know their shit.
in actuality, they know (usually) half the story when it comes to something like this.
i'm glad DF took this approach, and i can't wait to see the final product.

[sepulchral]

this post is really starting to piss me off... i think this thread should be closed or something until drift factory shows further progress pics... i want to see progress dammit!

[Yoshi]

You know, any way u look at it, it's is just one big plus for DF, marketting wise. You know how the saying goes, "any press is good press."

Also reminds me of something Kevin Smith says a lot, "I am a press whore".
So is Drift Factory, but can u blame them? Not really, look at the response they got.

[Var]

I just want to know how much the damn engine weighs. but i'm too lazy to google it. serves me right

[wanganwonder]

kuroi atsushi seems to enjoy his rb26 s13

seven-hundred something horsepower when DEtuned.

:D

[Var]

When i went to D1 there was this Z33 with a 700hp Rb26dett. It looked pretty cool plowing into every corner and getting disqualified.

[240speed]

How much heavier are the rb's compaired to the sr's? Seems like they should be too heavy to put in a 2800 lb 240.

[aznpoopy]

i tried spent a little time on google but couldn't find the weight.

even if its a 1 or 200 lbs heavier who cares.

put a 200lb weight in the trunk.

non 50/50 is not a car killer, and the 240sx is hardly a 'lightweight' car.

[raen419]

wow, you people should really read more.
what's more important?
weigh or weight distribution?

think about it.

hahaha, 200lb weight in the trunk....lol
glad someone on here understands something besides "oh god, it's a bigger engine that the KA, why put it in for drifting???"

weight distribution, it's great concept. these guys know what they're doing. shut up if you think you do.

[Var]

wow, you people should really read more.
what's more important?
weigh or weight distribution?

think about it.

hahaha, 200lb weight in the trunk....lol
glad someone on here understands something besides "oh god, it's a bigger engine that the KA, why put it in for drifting???"

weight distribution, it's great concept. these guys know what they're doing. shut up if you think you do.

no seriously...that Z looked freakin awesome plowing into the corners. I think he almost made top 16.

[driftyour40]

yahhhhhhhhhhh DF. I'll be by to see it tomorrow.

Some of you are just being stupid about this and should really just stfu.
My dad used to say something to me that I think allot of you should adopt into your life’s.

"Don't think, KNOW".

[TheTicTac]

When i went to D1 there was this Z33 with a 700hp Rb26dett. It looked pretty cool plowing into every corner and getting disqualified.

The Z33 from Dart Izumi? It's not really the cars fault that it plows into everything, the car can't drive itself.

[Var]

I suppose, but it's not like they got a random guy off the streets to drive it..

[driftfactory]

Ya, the rb26 powered Z was just plowing through corners all day :rolleyes:

http://www.driftfactory.com/d1rd1/d047.jpg

[Var]

are you saying i'm lying? good job for finding a pic of it sideways. i was there. I saw it in person.

[driftfactory]

I guess Top Secret doesn't know what they are doing either then. That's sad, :wtc: especially right after winning D1, and the March cup last year. They must really be going down hill.

[drew935]

I forgot who drives the ORC Z. My friend helps tune that car. There's always more tuning needed at any level... :bow:

[Yoshi]

Wow, this thread sure went downhill in a hurry....
thus i will take this opportunity to say:
IBTL! :P :lockd:

[driftfactory]

Well, let's pick it back up then. Another Update :) Another small update (http://www.driftfactory.com/dfcar.php)

[Var]

I guess Top Secret doesn't know what they are doing either then. That's sad, :wtc: especially right after winning D1, and the March cup last year. They must really be going down hill.


not to take anything away from Top Secret, or Drift Factory as a company. All i'm arguing against is people that say that weight doesnt matter. I didnt mean to really bash your project. I'm sure the car will be fine. But that Z33 did suck supreme balls with the Rb26dett. I guess the car needed a lot more work to make it balanced.

Forsberg's Z33 with the Sr ran very consistently and he made it to top 8. And you can tell from looking at the dynamics of the car when it turns that it was having less trouble.

[driftfactory]

Agreed, but despite problems here and there the car was still competing at the D1 level. Which is more than can be said for a lot of other cars. Plus remember that the Z33 comes stock with a VQ which is closer in weight to an RB. So any issues with the ORC/Top Secret car were most likely not weight related.

[Var]

Agreed, but despite problems here and there the car was still competing at the D1 level. Which is more than can be said for a lot of other cars. Plus remember that the Z33 comes stock with a VQ which is closer in weight to an RB. So any issues with the ORC/Top Secret car were most likely not weight related.


I suppose that could be true even though the Z33 stock is already prone to understeer. You may be right. Sorry to be such a bugger. I wish you the best of luck. But you never answered my question. Did you guys bother weighing the engine? That's a pretty important thing to know before you get into something like this.

[driftfactory]

We cannot weigh the engine until we get it out of the clip and prepped for install. The clip weighed in at 1500 pounds but that was with the front frame and both the RB26 and RB25 trannys. Once we get accessories stripped off and the lighter RB25 trans then a weight will mean something.

[aznpoopy]

yay weigh it and post it. :)

[p11driver]

looks dope jason. i gotta see it in person :)