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janko
05-19-2005, 11:35 AM
I can get the car for $2500. 97' / 78K / perfect interior
http://gallery.thevboard.com/showpic.php?dispsize=Original&album=janko&pic=cc_3.JPG
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Ritz S14
05-19-2005, 11:38 AM
No, to fix that, it would cost probably 3-4k.
Yoshi
05-19-2005, 11:39 AM
did someone back into something, or get slammed?
if you can have a shop verify that hte frame is str8, then ya, I'd rock it for a project car, if not, stay FAR away.
i'm betting it has frame damage, but it's pretty hard to tell from the pix.
janko
05-19-2005, 11:42 AM
The guy said that the frame was straight. He said the car was hit from the right rear above the bumper rienforcement.
Yoshi
05-19-2005, 11:44 AM
The guy said that the frame was straight.
well then it LOOKS (keyword), like you'll just need a new bumper, tail light, and a crapload of bodywork.
If you have a hookup w/a body shop it may be worth it.
Smog is right tho, the dollar value attached to a "like new-ish" repair job will be considerable...
Salvage title?
janko
05-19-2005, 11:45 AM
I verified the title today. Clean and no history of accidents. This will be a project car BTW. I've already got an '03 Spec-V.
id say the 1/4 panel=1000
rear bumper=400
trunk=250
taillights=150
so...1800-2000 to repair that *IF* there is no frame damage
Ritz S14
05-19-2005, 12:00 PM
id say the 1/4 panel=1000
rear bumper=400
trunk=250
taillights=150
so...1800-2000 to repair that *IF* there is no frame damage
What about paint? labor?
drew935
05-19-2005, 12:07 PM
only buy it, if it has been verified by a body shop that it has no frame damage. Better to be sure than arsed out...imo :cry: :spank:
janko
05-19-2005, 12:11 PM
Yeah, well the only thing is that it is about 3 hours away. I am in the Navy so finding a free day to go down there just to have it checked out isn't really feasible. I sent the picture to a body shop here in town and they were talking about possible frame / rail / floor damage. None of which sounds cheap to fix. I told the guy I am going to pass on it unless he wants to come down a considerable amount on the price and even then I still might not bother with it.
sblack13
05-19-2005, 12:47 PM
I would say its not worth it to fix it, look at that quarter panel. I've done quarter panel body work and that is an assload of work, that will not be cheap to fix. You'll prolly end up dead even on the price your gonna pay to have it fixed, rather than buy a good one in exellent condition.
janko
05-19-2005, 01:31 PM
the guy just emailed me back telling me that the rails on the chasis are not bent and he can have it all repaired for $2200. I still doesn't sound right though.
MakotoS13
05-19-2005, 02:00 PM
sounds fishy.
Personally I'd never buy a car with rear 1/4 damage, even as a project car.
janko
05-19-2005, 02:12 PM
Yeah, i've just started getting into cars in the past 6 months., Obviously there is a lot I don't know. Stupidly I bid on the car on eBay a few days ago and won the auction for $2500. I was going to buy it until I found all this out. The description made it sound like an easy and inexpensive fix which is why I don't feel as bad about backing out. The guy is trying to pull the legally binding contract thing on me but I know how easy it to realist something and sell it to someone else.
sepulchral
05-19-2005, 02:54 PM
offer 1800 take it or leave it
TwoFourO
05-19-2005, 03:14 PM
If its a project car and the frame is strait then its an awesome deal. You can fix all that crap yourself with ebay parts and some learning experiences for much cheaper than it would cost to buy a decent condition 97 s14. I say go for it and do all the work yourself. It's really not HARD, it's just laborous and time consuming. Don't be a panzy, pull a Macgyver!
janko
05-19-2005, 03:27 PM
I've never even dealt w/ body work. I guess I could learn. I doubt I would mess with the quarter panel. I would have someone else do that.
projectRDM
05-19-2005, 04:34 PM
$1500 and part it. But that's still paying high.
not a penny more than 1500 for it. I'd pay 1700 if it had 5 lug. Both prices assuming no frame damage w/ 5 speed tranny
infinitexsound
05-20-2005, 07:10 PM
blah............. go get a quote from a bodyshop........ id buy it for that much... if the quote is reasonable...... and if it is reasonable.... tell the dude to knock the price down... even more..
S14DB
05-20-2005, 09:05 PM
once that trunk floor ripples it's a biatch to get straight and level. There is alot of labor to get the rearend and trunk inline.
infinitexsound
05-21-2005, 01:07 AM
some pulls some heating some measuring... some new panels a spotweld driller... a welder..... some seam weld.. some undercoat spray.. an i-car splice some bondo some primer some paint... voila new qp...
TheSnail
05-21-2005, 01:20 AM
Personally I'd never buy a car with rear 1/4 damage, even as a project car.
Same here.
Why not get a hela clean blown motor s13 chassis for 1000-1500$ and spend the rest on making it very quick rather then repairing that car to a stock 240? If you want a 97 get a clean one in auto and swap it 5spd for less. You would have your 97 with out the stress.
janko
05-21-2005, 02:57 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4551535748
Mine now. That price included shipping from SC to NY. Great body and interior.
infinitexsound
05-21-2005, 03:33 AM
sweet what ever u do dont swap it for a sr.. just go 16v if u wanna swap... clean enough car doesnt look like it was in a collision...very good buy
Drunk Bastard
05-21-2005, 03:40 AM
not a penny more than 1500 for it. I'd pay 1700 if it had 5 lug. Both prices assuming no frame damage w/ 5 speed tranny
has the se wheels...
janko
05-21-2005, 03:54 AM
sweet what ever u do dont swap it for a sr.. just go 16v if u wanna swap... clean enough car doesnt look like it was in a collision...very good buy
So whats wrong with the SR? That is what I planning on doing... I don't see the point of a KA24DET. Enlighten me...
jdm538
05-21-2005, 04:34 AM
im sorry man but that is not a good deal, just buy yourself a running car.
infinitexsound
05-21-2005, 04:40 AM
truthfully my opinion.... is that i am one of those who dont like downtime at all.. and if it comes to something simple i need to order to fix my car, if it involves ordering parts from a .com shop.. then i say no... reason why i wanna stick with the ka is that u can easily go to a parts store down the street and order the part right there... and get it right then... plus hp difference less money more hp and torque its been proven already lots of ppl know..ppl have been running ka's for ever.. very good durable engine if u ask me and theres no need to switch unless u want a rev happy motor..PLUS everyone knows the ka is the new SR...u could even source a z18et head and turbo parts setup direct drop for the 12 valve..
TheSnail
05-21-2005, 11:54 AM
Id go in order Sr20, rb20, ca18, kat if I was in your shoes. Clean s13 you got your hands on. You'll have lots of fun:)
janko
05-21-2005, 05:59 PM
Thats what I am thinking. By the time I find a KA24DE and rebuild it for the turbo + buy the turbo kit I think I'd be well over the price of an SR. Plus I remember when I had my old S14 I hated the way the engine felt when I was riding it hard. It was too rough, I want something a lot smoother.
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